Phurfur 70 Posted May 25, 2011 I got my first government entitlement check today and was accepted for VA health insurance last month. Life is good, vote for a Democrat. Do you really think these payments are good for the country? I know they are good for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted May 25, 2011 I got my first government entitlement check today and was accepted for VA health insurance last month. Life is good, vote for a Democrat. Do you really think these payments are good for the country? I know they are good for me. You got a health insurance return for being a veteran? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted May 25, 2011 You got a health insurance return for being a veteran? No return just health care which is worth a chunk of money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted May 25, 2011 No return just health care which is worth a chunk of money. But you're a vet, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted May 25, 2011 No return just health care which is worth a chunk of money. Not the same, you earned that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted May 25, 2011 Not the same, you earned that I feel I did too, especially since I was drafted. The fact still remains that I am an able bodied American who is being supported by the American tax payer. Is that right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted May 25, 2011 I feel I did too, especially since I was drafted. The fact still remains that I am an able bodied American who is being supported by the American tax payer. Is that right? They're paying for my MBA and paid for my bachelors, I paid that bill in advance with blood equity, I feel no issues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted May 25, 2011 They're paying for my MBA and paid for my bachelors, I paid that bill in advance with blood equity, I feel no issues Agreed. It's part of the contract. Deferred compensation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted May 25, 2011 They're paying for my MBA and paid for my bachelors, I paid that bill in advance with blood equity, I feel no issues But our monthly income has nothing to do with being a veteran. 85% of our income comes from government sources and my wife and I are both healthy and able to work. Does anyone have a problem with this? I do! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTB 52 Posted May 25, 2011 They're paying for my MBA and paid for my bachelors, I paid that bill in advance with blood equity, I feel no issues Stop the the crap ######-LIPS - You may have paid the bill in advance, but you CHOSE to do it. There is a HUGE difference between chosing or being demanded to be in the military. ASSH0LE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 25, 2011 But our monthly income has nothing to do with being a veteran. 85% of our income comes from government sources and my wife and I are both healthy and able to work. Does anyone have a problem with this? I do! Me too send the excess cash my way and we will both feel better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTB 52 Posted May 25, 2011 Stop the the crap ######-LIPS - You may have paid the bill in advance, but you CHOSE to do it. There is a HUGE difference between chosing or being demanded to be in the military. ASSH0LE Now, I agree Vets should have healthcare of some nature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,453 Posted May 25, 2011 I feel I did too, especially since I was drafted. The fact still remains that I am an able bodied American who is being supported by the American tax payer. Is that right? You must be significantly older than I thought you were considering the draft ended in 1973. As for your personal situation, here's the deal... when you work a job, you get benefits. One of the benefits that comes with the job you were drafted for is medical benefits. Do work = earn pay and benefits You did your part, kept your end of the bargain, don't beat yourself up over the government keeping theirs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,833 Posted May 25, 2011 Entitlements are great. Who doesn't love a free lunch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedStudent 56 Posted May 25, 2011 I feel I did too, especially since I was drafted. The fact still remains that I am an able bodied American who is being supported by the American tax payer. Is that right? you must be an old fock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted May 25, 2011 Stop the the crap ######-LIPS - You may have paid the bill in advance, but you CHOSE to do it. There is a HUGE difference between chosing or being demanded to be in the military. ASSH0LE What the ######? House. Face. Family Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTB 52 Posted May 25, 2011 They're paying for my MBA and paid for my bachelors, I paid that bill in advance with blood equity, I feel no issues I just didn't like the "I'll get em for all I can" attitude. I really appreciate your service, but you came off very bitter to me. Curious - did you go into the Military to serve or to get the freebies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted May 25, 2011 They're paying for my MBA and paid for my bachelors, I paid that bill in advance with blood equity, I feel no issues Did you serve in combat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted May 25, 2011 I just didn't like the "I'll get em for all I can" attitude. I really appreciate your service, but you came off very bitter to me. Curious - did you go into the Military to serve or to get the freebies? Nope, they offered it, I took it. I'm still serving and if they offer me more, I'll take it. Still open to the house face and family pansy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTB 52 Posted May 25, 2011 Nope, they offered it, I took it. I'm still serving and if they offer me more, I'll take it. Still open to the house face and family pansy No idea what house face and family pansy means.......I assume it's supposed to be a internet tough guy saying tho??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,453 Posted May 25, 2011 I just didn't like the "I'll get em for all I can" attitude. I really appreciate your service, but you came off very bitter to me. Curious - did you go into the Military to serve or to get the freebies? Does it focking matter? I went in for the freebies. If they don't offer the freebies people won't join. And the freebies aren't focking free. I busted my ass. This is a ladder that gets poor people money for college. It's a two way street. They needed bodies to run around Iraq and the freebies are why I was available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTB 52 Posted May 25, 2011 Does it focking matter? I went in for the freebies. If they don't offer the freebies people won't join. And the freebies aren't focking free. I busted my ass. This is a ladder that gets poor people money for college. It's a two way street. They needed bodies to run around Iraq and the freebies are why I was available. Doesn't matter, but who are you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,453 Posted May 25, 2011 Doesn't matter, but who are you? Just another focker you met online swimming in this cesspool of a forarm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,172 Posted May 25, 2011 Does it focking matter? I went in for the freebies. If they don't offer the freebies people won't join. And the freebies aren't focking free. I busted my ass. This is a ladder that gets poor people money for college. It's a two way street. They needed bodies to run around Iraq and the freebies are why I was available. Yeah, I'm not sure who cralled up this JTB dudes crack, but he's gone wacko. If anybody derserves a so called 'entitlement' its the military or ex military. Regarding the overall general philosophical question. Like most things, it depends. I like a government that does in fact use the collectve will of the people (taxes) to help provide a 'safety net' for those in certain situations. The problem arises that the way these 'safety nets' are implemented is usually not cost effective. It usually has loopholes the size of OldMaid's underwear. And it usually leads to simply more dependence on the gov't as it is not run properly. So, to be honest, I don't know the right answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted May 25, 2011 Just another focker you met online swimming in this cesspool of a forarm. I've been looking for a new sig. I think I found it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTB 52 Posted May 25, 2011 Just another focker you met online swimming in this cesspool of a forarm. - Cheers cesspool swimming focker - Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,453 Posted May 25, 2011 - Cheers cesspool swimming focker - Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted May 25, 2011 you must be an old fock. Yup, and I still could work another 15 years without a problem. Our government gave my wife and me deals we couldn't refuse so we have removed ourselves from the work force. Is this really the country we want? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted May 25, 2011 Yup, and I still could work another 15 years without a problem. Our government gave my wife and me deals we couldn't refuse so we have removed ourselves from the work force. Is this really the country we want? Apparently it's the country you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted May 25, 2011 What the ######? House. Face. Family Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,453 Posted May 25, 2011 Yup, and I still could work another 15 years without a problem. Our government gave my wife and me deals we couldn't refuse so we have removed ourselves from the work force. Is this really the country we want? Honestly, no. I'm 39. Had I stuck with the Army, I could have retired 18 months years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted May 25, 2011 Yeah, I'm not sure who cralled up this JTB dudes crack, but he's gone wacko. If anybody derserves a so called 'entitlement' its the military or ex military. Regarding the overall general philosophical question. Like most things, it depends. I like a government that does in fact use the collectve will of the people (taxes) to help provide a 'safety net' for those in certain situations. The problem arises that the way these 'safety nets' are implemented is usually not cost effective. It usually has loopholes the size of OldMaid's underwear. And it usually leads to simply more dependence on the gov't as it is not run properly. So, to be honest, I don't know the right answer. I agree, but the "safety net" covers millions of people who don't need it. The goal is government dependency, not to help those that need it. When did this change? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,453 Posted May 25, 2011 I agree, but the "safety net" covers millions of people who don't need it. The goal is government dependency, not to help those that need it. When did this change? ~1964-68 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted May 25, 2011 Honestly, no. I'm 39. Had I stuck with the Army, I could have retired 18 months years ago. I only spent 20 months in the military but was able to retire in my early 50s. I don't think that is much of an option for you unless you work for the government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted May 25, 2011 ~1964-68 I believe this was the start. We are LBJ's "Great Society". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IAMWood 6 Posted May 25, 2011 Why does the "liberal" media refer to Social Security as an entitlement? What does "entitlement" necessarily mean in the context of the original post? He is entitled to it right? Is it just me or does "entitlement" mean something negative in most eyes? Because I only think I am entitled to some things and those I consider entitlements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IAMWood 6 Posted May 26, 2011 Why does the "liberal" media refer to Social Security as an entitlement? What does "entitlement" necessarily mean in the context of the original post? He is entitled to it right? Is it just me or does "entitlement" mean something negative in most eyes? Because I only think I am entitled to some things and those I consider entitlements. Anyone have a clue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted May 26, 2011 Did you serve in combat? Twice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,062 Posted May 26, 2011 Why does the "liberal" media refer to Social Security as an entitlement? What does "entitlement" necessarily mean in the context of the original post? He is entitled to it right? Is it just me or does "entitlement" mean something negative in most eyes? Because I only think I am entitled to some things and those I consider entitlements. I think programs like Social Security are called "entitlements" because you have a guaranteed right to them, by law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
