Super Cubs 156 Posted March 18, 2006 With all the draft pressure of Reggie or Vince I think the Texans are over looking their WRs. Both Bradford and Gaffney are gone. We have AJ and the #3 or 4 guy from Cinni I don't recall his name but from what I heard on Houston radio he's somewhat underrated. I think what they need is a true vet for leadership. I was hoping to get Bruce but he resigned. Did not really want TO and he is now a cowboy. Keyshawn would not be that bad of fit for a #2 WR to help take the triple teams off AJ. Does anyone have a clue what the Texans are doing? Do they have a clue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ER MAN 0 Posted March 18, 2006 You know, sometimes I wonder that myself. Continually failing to address the offensive line is a big part of the reason why David Carr has not developed to his full potential, no number 2 WR to complement Andre Johnson plus no good TE either and people wonder why the Texans are so bad. Management does not have a clue at all. Maybe with Kubiak there things will change but we shall see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coachnorm 0 Posted March 18, 2006 The Texans are a bit of a puzzle. They need O Line help!!! and yet they do nothing. Last year they tried to implement a new blocking scheme as a cure but that obviously didn't help. Hopefully they upgrade the O line. Meshawn may be a good addition to that wr corp. They did draft a Wr last year who is a speedster named Mathis which is why they may have let there previous speed guy Bradford go. Bradford was good for the occasional deep ball but he was always hampered by nagging little injuries that took a step away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted March 18, 2006 WR Nate Burleson to visit with the Texans SEAN JENSEN 3/18/2006 Receiver Nate Burleson said the Vikings remain his reality. But he acknowledged that playing in his hometown of Seattle for the Seahawks still is a "fantasy." He visited Seattle on Friday. "I feel I'm a Minnesota Viking. That's obviously something I would never put on the back burner," Burleson said. "But when you match that against the hometown that you were raised in, it could definitely be a tough decision." A restricted free agent, Burleson said he is "flattered" by the interest in him. He will fly to Houston on Monday to visit with the Texans. Link As an AJ owner - I need SOMEONE to help out on the other side, and Nate would be just fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 156 Posted March 19, 2006 I heard a rumor on 610 am Houston sports radio that they may be trying to aquire a Denver TE. but that is just a rumor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted March 19, 2006 I heard a rumor on 610 am Houston sports radio that they may be trying to aquire a Denver TE. but that is just a rumor Makes sense with Kubs know the roster. Denver may very well take a TE with one of those 2 first round picks they have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadpool 0 Posted March 19, 2006 I heard a rumor on 610 am Houston sports radio that they may be trying to aquire a Denver TE. but that is just a rumor Wouldn't be Putzier would it? Isn't he a RFA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 156 Posted March 19, 2006 I think it is Putzier but I'm not for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farmer Bernie 0 Posted March 19, 2006 The Cincinnati Bengals announced that they would not match the offer sheet for restricted free agent Kevin Walter. The Bengals initially had tendered Walter an offer at his “draft status” level, meaning that the Texans will have to compensate Cincinnati with a 2006 draft pick in the seventh round—the same round Walter was selected in the 2003 draft. LINK I think it is Putzier but I'm not for sure. Next week, former Denver tight end Jeb Putzier will visit Houston. Kubiak is hoping to sign him, too. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...nt/3719091.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G-in O-town 0 Posted March 19, 2006 The Texans even if it was Putzier (TE), they need a #2 WR and some O-line help. I watched a number of games as an AJ owner last season and Carr had no time while getting sacked. MeShawn might be a good fit, no matter what you think of him he is a respectable WR that will require attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barnaby Wilde 0 Posted March 19, 2006 Why not sign a Keyshawn or a Troy Brown, plus a guy like Quincy Morgan, plus Jeb Putzier? That would help out quite a bit. Then, trade down a few spots, add a pick or two, grab D'Brickshaw for the O-line in the 1st round and your team is that much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uubeee 0 Posted March 19, 2006 With all the draft pressure of Reggie or Vince I think the Texans are over looking their WRs. Both Bradford and Gaffney are gone. We have AJ and the #3 or 4 guy from Cinni I don't recall his name but from what I heard on Houston radio he's somewhat underrated. I think what they need is a true vet for leadership. I was hoping to get Bruce but he resigned. Did not really want TO and he is now a cowboy. Keyshawn would not be that bad of fit for a #2 WR to help take the triple teams off AJ. Does anyone have a clue what the Texans are doing? Do they have a clue? I would think Moulds would be just the ticket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 156 Posted March 20, 2006 Putzier and Ike Hilliard to visit Texans today. Nate Burleson is also rumored to visit this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hanzandfranz 0 Posted March 20, 2006 Texans have told Burelson not to come......they don't want to get into a bidding war with Minny and Seattle. As a Bengals season ticket holder.....I really liked Kevin Walter.....he's big and tall and has good hands. As a Bengals fan...sorry to see him go........as an AJ owner in a dynasty league....glad to see him on the Texans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoffdaddy 1 Posted March 20, 2006 While still a little raw, I find it interesting that Jerome Mathis is still flying udner the radar. What I really find interesting is all the Koren Robinson man love shown for him making the pro bowl as a returner, while Mathis doesn't even get a mention in a Houston WR thread? The guy can flat out make plays. If Kubiak has someone who can teach him the finer points, I think he would make some type of impact this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texansfan 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Ike Hilliard resigned with TB so he's out. The Texans cancelled the Burleson visit b/c they didn't want to give up a top 3rd round pick and overpay battling with Minny & Seattle to get him. MeShawn is not an option. His career is winding down and he'll want to play for a contender (Carolina comes to mind). I really don't know who's left out there. They will probably have to wait until June 1 cuts and maybe someone like Eric Moulds could be an option. I'm 90% sure we'll sign Jeb Putzier which will be a nice addition, but still not a WR2. But honestly how many teams have a stud WR2? The only ones that come to mind are Reggie Wayne & TJ Housh. Most teams have 1 stud and then have specialists (speed guy, possesion guy, etc.). And the Texans have a speed guy in Mathis and now a possesion guy in Walter. Everyone is freaking out b/c none of them are proven, but they might just work out just fine. I was not upset at all losing Gaffney or Bradford. They both sucked. I still think they'll wind up with some vet WR2 before the season starts, just not sure who at this point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellothere 1 Posted March 21, 2006 we do need a #2 quite badly, and hoff hit on a good point. after watching mathis all season i think he has a career ahead of him. i see him more as a #3, but a very good one. a.hakim/b.stockley in their prime type action. (minus manning being on fire for stockley of course) but what im getting at is that he will see a fair share for a #3. just blazing blazing fast, and of course he has his return duties where he should continue to do well. as for an actual #2, givens was being chanted for in the HOU area, but that didn't pan out. jeb should help alot, but i am inagreement that there is no help out there. AJ gets CONSTANT attention by one of the safeties every play because there simply is no other threat, minus Dom out of the backfield. i would prefer to sign gaffney cheap if possible, or another vet, but cheap being the opperative word. not because we dont need it, but because there isn't anyone out there at this point that will be worth the money they get if we pay big. this isn't helped by a craptastic draft class, so we will need to manufacture some help somehow, a stopgap until next year it seems to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetdoc 20 Posted March 21, 2006 The Texans signed Putzier today. Very nice pickup, and with Carr loving the TE position (and the lack of a quality WR2) I would make him a possible top 10 TE this year. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2377396 The Houston Texans, who have rarely thrown the ball to the tight end the past two seasons, on Monday evening found an excuse to start doing so again. ESPN.com learned that the Texans have reached agreement with free agent tight end Jeb Putzier, who was released by the Denver Broncos for salary cap reasons two weeks ago, on a four-year contract. The deal is worth $7.5 million and includes a signing bonus of $1.85 million. Putzier, 27, will be reunited in Houston with first-year head coach Gary Kubiak, who was his offensive coordinator in Denver, and who pushed hard for the Texans to sign the four-year veteran. Putzier had drawn interest from several other teams, including the New York Jets and the Philadelphia Eagles after his release. The Jets had actually signed him to a restricted free agent offer sheet last spring, but the Broncos matched it and retained him. A former Boise State standout, and a sixth-round pick in the 2002 draft, Putzier will provide the Texans a vertical dimension at tight end that the team has never possessed before. And with Kubiak calling the shots on offense, the tight end figures to become a viable element again in the Texans' passing game. Although he played rarely in his first two seasons in the league, Putzier blossomed in 2004 as a player who could run up the seam and split the safeties. In 2004, he had 36 catches for 572 yards. The three tight ends on the Houston roster totaled just 22 catches for 232 yards that season. In 2005, Putzier posted 37 catches for 481 yards, while the Texans' contingent of tight ends had a collective 33 catches for 216 yards. Putzier's average of 14.4 yards per catch over the last two seasons ranks among the top five in the NFL over that stretch. The lone downside to Putzier is that he is only an adequate blocker and struggles to move defenders off the line of scrimmage. But one of Houston's offseason priorities was to provide beleaguered quarterback David Carr with more playmakers, and with some vertical options, and the acquisition of Putzier certainly addresses that goal. In 39 appearances, Putzier has 77 receptions for 1,087 yards and two touchdowns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassBoiler 0 Posted March 21, 2006 While still a little raw, I find it interesting that Jerome Mathis is still flying udner the radar. What I really find interesting is all the Koren Robinson man love shown for him making the pro bowl as a returner, while Mathis doesn't even get a mention in a Houston WR thread? The guy can flat out make plays. If Kubiak has someone who can teach him the finer points, I think he would make some type of impact this season. I don't think Mathis is viewed as an every down starting WR. He'd be great for the slot and used 30-40 plays a game along with returns, but he doesn't strike me as being a bonfide starting WR in the NFL. Putzier was a nice signing. He's talented and will finally give Carr another quality receiving option. Does anyone know if he's any good at blocking? That might be why Denver never fully utilized him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted March 21, 2006 Nice, Nice, - now what about Reggie Wayne? Or even Keyshawn? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Nice, Nice, - now what about Reggie Wayne? Or even Keyshawn? Wayne resigned with Indy. Meshawn would be a cancer to a team that can't keep it's QB off his back. The frustration would mount, and he'd want out quick. I really like the Moulds suggestion. Veteran receiver who has some skills left that could ease the pressure on AJ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted March 21, 2006 Wayne resigned with Indy. Meshawn would be a cancer to a team that can't keep it's QB off his back. The frustration would mount, and he'd want out quick. I really like the Moulds suggestion. Veteran receiver who has some skills left that could ease the pressure on AJ. Yes totally forgot about moulds. For sure faster than keyshawn and I'm going with a better athlete also. Scratch Wayne off the board then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houstons_most_wanted 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Does anyone have a clue what the Texans are doing? Do they have a clue? Nope...and nope...lol Damn I hope Houston plays well this year...so I can have an excuse to go to a game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Nope...and nope...lol Damn I hope Houston plays well this year...so I can have an excuse to go to a game... It's still NFL football. (At least from the opposition) Also....they serve beer. Need I say more? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 156 Posted March 21, 2006 Texans are attemping to address the o-line by meeting with Steve McKinney's brother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoffdaddy 1 Posted March 21, 2006 I don't think Mathis is viewed as an every down starting WR. He'd be great for the slot and used 30-40 plays a game along with returns, but he doesn't strike me as being a bonfide starting WR in the NFL. Based on what? He's big enough to be effective at 5'11" and 185. He obviously has speed. His only knock is that he's raw, which means he need to improve route running and consistency, just like it says in his draft bio below. I'm not sure year one was a big enough sample size for anyone to say the guy can't make it as an NFL wide receiver. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...yers/70625.html BIO: Track and field sprint champion awarded All-Conference honors the past two years. Led the team in receiving as a senior posting 30/884/9, averaging 29.5 yards per reception. Also averaged 35.5 yards on 25 kick returns, bringing five back for scores. Junior receiving numbers included 40/977/9. POSITIVES: Explosive pass catcher with homerun hitting speed. Physical and battles to make the tough reception. Easily outruns opponents down the field and a scoring threat any time he gets his hands on the ball. NEGATIVES: Has character questions, which must be answered. Very raw and must improve his route running skills and pass catching consistency. Does not consistently play to his timed speed. ANALYSIS: A prospect everyone is talking about after an outstanding Combine, Mathis is a tremendous athlete still developing as a football player. Possesses the size to be a number one receiver at the next level, yet not the sure thing many are making him out to be. Offers tremendous long-term potential and can be a big play threat as a rookie in the NFL, but must fully develop his game. PROJECTION: Late Second Round Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Based on what? He's big enough to be effective at 5'11" and 185. He obviously has speed. His only knock is that he's raw, which means he need to improve route running and consistency, just like it says in his draft bio below. I'm not sure year one was a big enough sample size for anyone to say the guy can't make it as an NFL wide receiver. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...yers/70625.html BIO: Track and field sprint champion awarded All-Conference honors the past two years. Led the team in receiving as a senior posting 30/884/9, averaging 29.5 yards per reception. Also averaged 35.5 yards on 25 kick returns, bringing five back for scores. Junior receiving numbers included 40/977/9. POSITIVES: Explosive pass catcher with homerun hitting speed. Physical and battles to make the tough reception. Easily outruns opponents down the field and a scoring threat any time he gets his hands on the ball. NEGATIVES: Has character questions, which must be answered. Very raw and must improve his route running skills and pass catching consistency. Does not consistently play to his timed speed. ANALYSIS: A prospect everyone is talking about after an outstanding Combine, Mathis is a tremendous athlete still developing as a football player. Possesses the size to be a number one receiver at the next level, yet not the sure thing many are making him out to be. Offers tremendous long-term potential and can be a big play threat as a rookie in the NFL, but must fully develop his game. PROJECTION: Late Second Round Santana Moss 5' 10" 190 clone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted March 21, 2006 What the Texans need to do with their picks is to trade down for more picks. This is something they may be able to cash out on during the Draft. While have marquee players on your team is nice in the press for a day, jersey sales for a month, and ticket sales for year. To establish the team, they need to look at setting up a competitive club. One player does not a team make. I say, Texan fans, forgo the thought of getting Mr. Heissman 1 or 2. Hope to get as much duct tape to put that overall franchise back together. Then revisit the stud factor in a year or two. Hey, it has been working for the Patriots for over a decade. Can't be all that bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mggoilers 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Walters/Mathis and AJ on the outside. Bush in the slot Dom Davis in the backfield Putzier as the TE Not a bad group, just need to keep Carr upright Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted March 22, 2006 Santana Moss 5' 10" 190 clone. Every guy that is the same height and weight is not the same player. Moss is superquick and has great body control and leaping ability, I don't know that you can say the same for Mathis. Not to mention the skills Moss has acquired in several years at the U and now several years as a starter in the pros as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Every guy that is the same height and weight is not the same player. Moss is superquick and has great body control and leaping ability, I don't know that you can say the same for Mathis. Not to mention the skills Moss has acquired in several years at the U and now several years as a starter in the pros as well. It was stated that Mathis wasn't viewed as an every down receiver and I was simply agreeing with Hoffdaddy that you can't dismiss him because of his size which typically isn't good for a receiver. Obviously S. Moss has dispelled that notion. I wasn't saying he was as good as Moss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoffdaddy 1 Posted March 22, 2006 It was stated that Mathis wasn't viewed as an every down receiver and I was simply agreeing with Hoffdaddy that you can't dismiss him because of his size which typically isn't good for a receiver. Obviously S. Moss has dispelled that notion. I wasn't saying he was as good as Moss. Not yet anyway. One of the pros on Mathis out of college were his ability to go fight for the ball in traffic, which would make it seem like he has good body control. I don't know about quickness, but the guy can flat out run fast. His route running will obviously need to be fine tuned, but the guy is naturally talented. I'm monitoring him closely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beercat 5 Posted March 22, 2006 Doesn't matter which WR they sign Carr can not throw the ball from his back. They need an O-Line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pollardposse 0 Posted March 22, 2006 I think the Texans will turn the corner with the new coach. Capers was a joke. Look at what he did in Carolina. His drafts were mediocre at best and he overspent on over-aged veterans. The Texans have a deep threat they took in the second round last year. Don't recall his name though. If they take Bush number one, a guard or tackle at the top of the second round, and either another guard/tackle or WR in the third, they will have cured many of their ills. What I do not understand is why they have not tried to trade D. Davis. He would draw interest on the open market..... He has been mildly successful behind a bottom-run offensive line. Surely that has contributed to his health issues. I don't know his contract status, but I'm thinking the cap implications must have been to high to trade him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barnaby Wilde 0 Posted March 22, 2006 If they can bring in a guy like Moulds, and maybe get a guy like Peerless Price into camp cheaply for competition, maybe, along with Putzier and some o-line help in the draft, their passing game will flourish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites