Info on Mungro & the Colt's RBBC mess.

[Savage Beast 1]

http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=3765

 

It looks like it's going to be a RBBC nightmare in Indy.

 

For some reason the link keeps going to the wrong page?????????????????? Don't know why????

[football_scooter 0]

http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=3765

 

It looks like it's going to be a RBBC nightmare in Indy.

as predicted.

 

Ask SoloMatisse how happy he is about it, too...he just drafted Addai in the 4th of our draft and declared what a steal it was getting "the starting RB for the colts" in the mid-4th.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 40]

I think Addai will grab the job in pre-season and never look back. If Mungro/Rhodes gave management ANY confidence, they would not have drafted Addai in the first RD.

[ellisonb11 0]

I think Addai will grab the job in pre-season and never look back. If Mungro/Rhodes gave management ANY confidence, they would not have drafted Addai in the first RD.

 

im with u.

[uubeee 0]

I think Addai will grab the job in pre-season and never look back. If Mungro/Rhodes gave management ANY confidence, they would not have drafted Addai in the first RD.

Same goes for Foster/DeAngelo Williams Dillon/Maroney.

 

Dillon, Mungro, and Foster all have the starting jobs. But they need to be watching their backs. This year or next, they will not be the starters of their current teams.

[football_scooter 0]

I think Addai will grab the job in pre-season and never look back. If Mungro/Rhodes gave management ANY confidence, they would not have drafted Addai in the first RD.

 

Disagree - I think it will be pretty evenly split between Rhodes & Addai, and Mungro will be tossed in at the GL from time to time.

 

Indy= newest RBBC

 

and if not, it's nothing I want to have to count on unless someone falls to me late in any draft.

 

Same goes for Foster/DeAngelo Williams Dillon/Maroney.

 

Dillon, Mungro, and Foster all have the starting jobs. But they need to be watching their backs. This year or next, they will not be the starters of their current teams.

 

Be that as it may, it'a still a coin flip until it's settled for FFB purposes.

 

Anyone drafting any of these guys and depending on them as a RB1 or RB2 is out of their minds for 2006.

 

Much will be settled through the season with injuries and performance, but it is worth noting that highly touted rookies get hurt too (Foster, Bell, etc, etc, etc) while aging vets can hold on seemingly forever (Steven Davis anyone? Eddie George?) with talented rookies languishing on the bench (Priest Holmes?).

 

Just saying - anyone who says they know for certain who the starting RB is in Indy right now is 100% full of crap.

 

But good luck to those of you who have the guts to pick 'em that high, and the foresight to be correct about which is going to break out, grab a job and be "the man" - you'll either be richly rewarded or horribly disappointed with your late 3rd/early 4th round pick and it could either win or lose your league this year.

 

I am planning on not being that guy.

[Savage Beast 1]

I think Addai will grab the job in pre-season and never look back. If Mungro/Rhodes gave management ANY confidence, they would not have drafted Addai in the first RD.

 

Addai was only a default pick because the Colts thought they would get Maroney. Addai is not even worthy of a 1st round draft pick, but the Colts were going to use their 1st rounder on a RB no matter what, and Addai was the default guy. Rhodes will be the starter with about 15 touches a game, with Addai and Mungro getting a few of the remaining carries in a RBBC rotation.

[SoloMatisse 0]

I dont sweat gossip.......I trust my instincts, and my instincts are that a small back like Rhodes, who was on the team last year and BARELY touched the ball, is not the kind back that the Colts aim to use on their way to a Superbowl. He'll be a nice change of pace back coming off the bench. Addai will be solid Dorsey Levens type player for the Colts....not all that flashy, doesnt overwhelm you with anything in particular, can catch the ball, can block, has deceptive speed......solid in all areas. Time will tell.

[HardTack 0]

Addai was only a default pick because the Colts thought they would get Maroney. Addai is not even worthy of a 1st round draft pick, but the Colts were going to use their 1st rounder on a RB no matter what, and Addai was the default guy. Rhodes will be the starter with about 15 touches a game, with Addai and Mungro getting a few of the remaining carries in a RBBC rotation.

 

 

I fail to see how anyone at this time can predict how the touches will be handed out. I think if Addai progresses well and can block(which he has shown he can do at a college lvl), he will get the majority of the touches. When the Colts pick came around, they didn't even use their allotted time for the pick....it was immediate. Polian has a niche for picking RBs in the draft...as he picked James over Williams back in 99, and Colts fans were a little confused with the pick as many thought Williams would be the guy taken. When Freeney was taken....everyone was like WTF!!, and we see how that panned out.

 

If I were a betting man....I would place money on Addai to get the majority of the touches, however, it may take until week 5-6 to get him there.

[football_scooter 0]

I dont sweat gossip.......I trust my instincts, and my instincts are that a small back like Rhodes, who was on the team last year and BARELY touched the ball, is not the kind back that the Colts aim to use on their way to a Superbowl. He'll be a nice change of pace back coming off the bench. Addai will be solid Dorsey Levens type player for the Colts....not all that flashy, doesnt overwhelm you with anything in particular, can catch the ball, can block, has deceptive speed......solid in all areas. Time will tell.

 

2001

 

Dominic Rhodes

10 games started 233 carries 1104 Ru Yds, 9 TDs

34 receptions 224 Rec Yds

 

1300+ yds and 9 TDs in 10 games on 267 touches. (4.8 ypt)

 

And he can't be the Colts starting RB why?

[Parkers99 0]

http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=3765

 

It looks like it's going to be a RBBC nightmare in Indy.

 

For some reason the link keeps going to the wrong page?????????????????? Don't know why????

 

 

Did you figure out how to post the link? Could you cut & Paste it? I'd like to read the article.

 

I looked around the site and can't find anything on RB's. What is the name or date of the article? Did you find it under "news"?

 

thanks

[SoloMatisse 0]

2001

 

Dominic Rhodes

10 games started 233 carries 1104 Ru Yds, 9 TDs

34 receptions 224 Rec Yds

 

1300+ yds and 9 TDs in 10 games on 267 touches. (4.8 ypt)

 

And he can't be the Colts starting RB why?

 

 

because those #s were put up 5 years ago for a 6 win team......do you think this team wants to win SIX games again??? LOL Guy had 40 carries last year.....yeah, thats a guy this organization really wants carrying the ball.

[mdubz 0]

i'm staying away. addai and rhodes will be drafted too early just because of the offense they are in.

[crocodilecj 0]

Addai should win the job, but I doubt it will be until mid-season. It'll be RBBC for a while and then he'll emerge, but drafting any Colts RB as one of your top 2 FF backs will only lead to

[gatorbait7391 0]

I think Addai will grab the job in pre-season and never look back. If Mungro/Rhodes gave management ANY confidence, they would not have drafted Addai in the first RD.

nah, hes nothing special, i watched him play in college. Horrible draft picky by Indy, they should have traded up!

[nobody 2,667]

Here is the article he was probably refering to. Really nothing noteworthy.

 

http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=3765

 

Entering training camp, Rhodes – now entering his sixth NFL season – is expected to be listed as the starter, with rookie first-round selection Joseph Addai and Mungro also likely to play an extensive role.

 

“Now, with Edgerrin gone, it’s an opportunity to get more playing time,” Mungro said. “Preparation’s even more valuable for me now than it has been the last few years.

 

“With Edgerrin gone, I want to carry the ball a little more and play some more halfback. That’s where I came in at, but again, I don’t now how much I’m going to play at halfback or how much I’m going to play at fullback. You’ve got to be ready.”

[SoloMatisse 0]

nah, hes nothing special, i watched him play in college. Horrible draft picky by Indy, they should have traded up!

 

 

Right.....Indy's really been striking out all over the place with their last several players......those guys really suck!! Makes you wonder who's drafting there??? too funny.

[sharkie22 0]

If I was going to take one of the Colts backs it would be Addai. The problem that I see in Indy is that for any one back to emerge from this group he will have to be very good at picking up blitzes and reading defenses. Typically this is not something a rookie excels at right off the bat. The Colts definitely need someone to emerge as their primary back otherwise defenses can key on personnel as to what the Colts are running. If I had to guess right now I would think Addai will slowly take the job and be a better fantasy option the second half of the season. This makes Addai a risky proposition as a RB3 and I doubt he's available in drafts beyond that.

[Parkers99 0]

Here is the article he was probably refering to. Really nothing noteworthy.

 

http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=3765

 

 

thanks

I assumed from the title of this post the article had more info... Sounded like Dungy had declared RBBC or something

[NOSRAC247 0]

Addai was only a default pick because the Colts thought they would get Maroney. Addai is not even worthy of a 1st round draft pick, but the Colts were going to use their 1st rounder on a RB no matter what, and Addai was the default guy. Rhodes will be the starter with about 15 touches a game, with Addai and Mungro getting a few of the remaining carries in a RBBC rotation.

 

I think you are wrong in this matter. If anything Indy was eyeing DeAngelo Williams. Addai is certainly worthy of a 1st round pick, where does your logic come from? He'll be solid starter by the midseason

[toofunny 0]

because those #s were put up 5 years ago for a 6 win team......do you think this team wants to win SIX games again??? LOL Guy had 40 carries last year.....yeah, thats a guy this organization really wants carrying the ball.

 

Uh a team trying to win the super bowl is going to start a rookie RB taken at the end of the 1st?

 

When did that happen....Oh wait, last year. JJ Arrington! Wow that worked out.

 

He was the 4th RB taken, because he's not that good. Even the GM said its unfair to expect a rookie to step right in on a team built to win now.

 

Taking Addai in the 4th? *lol* Nice pick buddy. Addai wasn't good enough to start at LSU. Why is he suddenly good enough to lead the Colts to the SB?

 

 

 

I think you are wrong in this matter. If anything Indy was eyeing DeAngelo Williams. Addai is certainly worthy of a 1st round pick, where does your logic come from? He'll be solid starter by the midseason

 

Actually Manning said the Pats got the RB they were targetting.

 

Colts like Bush, Williams, and Maroney more then Addai.

[Mack 1 6]

What's lost in this discussion is the potential for Peyton Manning to once again become a supreme ball hog. They will rely heavily on the passing game, meaning Manning should be close to 40 TD tosses this year.

[ShaneFalco 0]

I think Addai will grab the job in pre-season and never look back. If Mungro/Rhodes gave management ANY confidence, they would not have drafted Addai in the first RD.

 

2005 Thomas Jones anyone?

[football_scooter 0]

If I was going to take one of the Colts backs it would be Addai. The problem that I see in Indy is that for any one back to emerge from this group he will have to be very good at picking up blitzes and reading defenses. Typically this is not something a rookie excels at right off the bat. The Colts definitely need someone to emerge as their primary back otherwise defenses can key on personnel as to what the Colts are running. If I had to guess right now I would think Addai will slowly take the job and be a better fantasy option the second half of the season. This makes Addai a risky proposition as a RB3 and I doubt he's available in drafts beyond that.

 

Exactly why i think it will be RBBC with an emphasis on Rhodes.

 

Manning doesn't get sacked for a reason - all his WRs, TEs and Edge blocked when they had to. Rookies don't pick up the blitz that well...it should be interesting to see what happens there, but that is an orchestrated and at the same time spontaneous and complex offense. As I understand it, PManning has 3 or 4 options when he's in the huddle. That's a heck of a lot for any RB to get down, much less pick up the blocking schemes, read the blitzes and reading defenses as well.

 

Long road to hoe for a rookie. I think the hype excedes his present day draft value significantly. I am staying away from Indy in the exact way I am staying away from Denver. Great offense...they could use multiple backs, or situational backs - who knows. But they have enough talent in Rhodes and Addai that they'll use them both.

 

Buyer beware for 2006 FFB, IMO. GOod luck to those who have the faith.

 

 

2005 Thomas Jones anyone?

 

Right - he was no threat to Benson at all. Benson was going to run away with the job.

 

Gotta say - topic makes for great debate since no one really knows wtf is gonna happen.

 

Oh, and sorry for "outting" you there solo...I had no idea there'd be any backlash.

[mggoilers 0]

I've seen enough of Rhodes and Mungro to know one thing...they are not worth drafting. Give me Addai, and I'll wait for him to step in and be the guy.

 

This situation may require some patience, but Addai is the most talented of the 3 backs.

 

The cream always rises, and outside of injury, experience, and trust factors...the most talented back always plays the most. On every team in the league.

 

Wait on Lendale, DeAngelo, Norwood, and Addai this year.

[football_scooter 0]

I've seen enough of Rhodes and Mungro to know one thing...they are not worth drafting. Give me Addai, and I'll wait for him to step in and be the guy.

 

This situation may require some patience, but Addai is the most talented of the 3 backs.

 

The cream always rises, and outside of injury, experience, and trust factors...the most talented back always plays the most. On every team in the league.

 

Wait on Lendale, DeAngelo, Norwood, and Addai this year.

 

I don't think anyone's arguing this. But Addai's ADP so far has been around the 4th round in many drafts - so you're either loading up on WRs in the 2nd & 3rd then hoping for a breakout in the 4th, making him your RB2, or you're taking him as a RB3 in the 4th round. Kinda early for backups, IMO when so much talent is on the board at QB, TE, WR...

 

One man's opinion.

[DaveJ 0]

Alright let's go through this again..... If ANYONE thought that a rookie was going to come into the most complicated offense in the NFL and start from day one, you need to rethink your abilities in FF....

 

Addai will get his time, as will Mungro and Rhodes, but Rhodes will be the primary back getting the most time overall. How much time depends on his production and the game situations. He may get 20 carries one game and 10 the next... None of these guys comes close to Edges talent level, but combined, they can pick up his production. What's left to figure out is the breakdown per player of that production.

 

RBBC most of the year with one guy possibly establishing his place as the starter. My guess is that it will end up being Rhodes, who will not put up stellar numbers, but will produce a productive form of play that will allow them to run the ball when they need to, occasionally score and get a first down and more importantly, keep blitzers and pass rushers off Peyton Manning.

 

FF-wise.. Indy is a dead-zone for RB play and unless your picking up a 3rd RB, should be avoided like Mike Vicks last date.

[ShaneFalco 0]

Right - he was no threat to Benson at all. Benson was going to run away with the job.

 

I agree with you. I was saying that in response to the notion that because a team drafts a RB in the first round, the coaches have no confidence in the current RB and the rookie RB will take over immediately.

 

Just because Indy drafted Addai does not mean he's the starter. Rhodes will have a shot at the starting gig as well, ala the situation in Chicago last year with Benson and Jones.

[culboarder11 0]

2005 Thomas Jones anyone?

 

This is a case of people overhyping a young RB. Thomas Jones and Mike Anderson are examples of what that will do.

[SoloMatisse 0]

Alright let's go through this again..... If ANYONE thought that a rookie was going to come into the most complicated offense in the NFL and start from day one, you need to rethink your abilities in FF....

 

Addai will get his time, as will Mungro and Rhodes, but Rhodes will be the primary back getting the most time overall. How much time depends on his production and the game situations. He may get 20 carries one game and 10 the next... None of these guys comes close to Edges talent level, but combined, they can pick up his production. What's left to figure out is the breakdown per player of that production.

 

RBBC most of the year with one guy possibly establishing his place as the starter. My guess is that it will end up being Rhodes, who will not put up stellar numbers, but will produce a productive form of play that will allow them to run the ball when they need to, occasionally score and get a first down and more importantly, keep blitzers and pass rushers off Peyton Manning.

 

FF-wise.. Indy is a dead-zone for RB play and unless your picking up a 3rd RB, should be avoided like Mike Vicks last date.

 

 

This offense is no more complex than any other in the league. The only reason its thought to be complex is because Manning comes to the line on virtually every play and act like he's changing the call....which is absolutely idiotic. Those complexities have earned a Superbowl caliber team exactly ZERO titles. If that guy could shut his mouth and run a play when he got to the line, theyd probably get somewhere. But complex moreso than the Rams, Philadelphia or New England's O????.......not really. Different, with a QB who cant make up his mind and thinks he's smarter than eveyone else. All Addai needs to do is get the briefing on when the audible will be a called run and he'll know that either a) he's about to carry the ball, or a pass in which case he needs to stay in and pick up the blitz.......that's unbelievably complex.......poor guy will NEVER figure that out.

[Riddlen 1]

james mungro was a Lion. just saying.

[paulinstl 296]

Seems like a decent shot as a #3 fantasy team RB with a huge upside. I took him in round 4 in the FFToday June Mock after already having Alexander and Kevin Jones.

[What is the deal? 1]

I think Addai will grab the job in pre-season and never look back. If Mungro/Rhodes gave management ANY confidence, they would not have drafted Addai in the first RD.

cause 1st round picks (especially late ones) always make an impact in their rookie year, right???

 

[football_scooter 0]

james mungro was a Lion. just saying.

 

Steve Young was a Buc. What's your point, skippy?

 

I agree with you. I was saying that in response to the notion that because a team drafts a RB in the first round, the coaches have no confidence in the current RB and the rookie RB will take over immediately.

 

Just because Indy drafted Addai does not mean he's the starter. Rhodes will have a shot at the starting gig as well, ala the situation in Chicago last year with Benson and Jones.

 

totally agree - we were saying the same thing. My use of the was to indicate skepticism at the statements that Benson would be running away with anything, not to your post.

 

I think it's RBBC hell, with Rhodes getting the lion's share because he knows the offense.

[LSUtiger 9]

nah, hes nothing special, i watched him play in college. Horrible draft picky by Indy, they should have traded up!

 

Was that because he seemed to completely OWN the gators every time he played you? Nice bitterness there pal.

[kutulu 1,676]

I might be keeping Rhodes in an auction league, but that's only cause we can keep two players and out cap is 120 bucks. Rhodes would cost me a buck.....if I go that route I'll be spending whatever I need to, to lock up Addi...I'm hoping another player makes a better case for me keeping them though, such as T. Jones or Gado (a buck for him too).

[WhoDat 1]

I think you hit the nail right on the head!!

 

 

Was that because he seemed to completely OWN the gators every time he played you? Nice bitterness there pal.

[NAn 39]

Overall, good commentary guys, couple things...

 

Though I agree that IF he is to start it'll be likely midseason, but this thread title is misleading: it's like when an article from a beat writer posts his opinion of a position battle and then thread reads 'Indy Will Be RBBC'

 

Uh a team trying to win the super bowl is going to start a rookie RB taken at the end of the 1st?

 

When did that happen....Oh wait, last year. JJ Arrington! Wow that worked out.

 

Just thought this was funny...Umm, so the 5-11 Cardinals, without a winning season in last 6, were amongst teams with a legitimate shot of winning the SB last year?

[football_scooter 0]

Just thought this was funny...Umm, so the 5-11 Cardinals, without a winning season in last 6, were amongst teams with a legitimate shot of winning the SB last year?

 

yeah, that cracked me up too.

[Savage Beast 1]

This situation may require some patience, but Addai is the most talented of the 3 backs.

 

How do you know? Have you seen Addai carry the ball for the Colts in the NFL yet? We have already seen Rhodes carry the ball for the Colts in the past and with good success with a 4 year career 4.5 yards per carry average. Rhodes good past performances in the Colts offense make him the obvious starter with Addai getting a few carries here and there at best. It's not like Rhodes has looked like crap when he's had his chances, he's played very well and shown the Colts he has what it takes with the numbers to back him up.