Fizzelps 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Chiefs' Roaf retires By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star RIVER FALLS, Wis. | Tackle Willie Roaf, the foundation of one of the NFL’s best offensive lines, has retired. Roaf wasn’t with the Chiefs when they reported for training camp on Thursday. Roaf told The Kansas City Star this morning by telephone that he had told president/general Carl Peterson and coach Herm Edwards of his plans weeks ago and even sent the Chiefs a letter declaring his intentions. “I guess they want me to reconsider,’’ Roaf told The Star. “I’m solid on retiring and going back to school.’’ Roaf, 36, was emphatic in the spring that he would play this season. But today he said lingering hamstring and knee trouble led to his decision. Roaf missed six games last season because of hamstring problems. He missed half of the 2001 season while playing for New Orleans after tearing knee ligaments. Roaf joined the Chiefs in a trade from the Saints in 2002 and was a major factor in their offensive success. His retirement leaves a significant hole at left tackle. Edwards said Thursday the Chiefs would use Jordan Black at left tackle and Kyle Turley at right tackle when practice begins this afternoon. Roaf played 13 NFL seasons and made the Pro Bowl in all but two of them. Despite playing on only teams to reach the playoffs, Roaf will likely be selected for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parja 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Sonofabitch! That takes a little bite out of LJs stock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joefry 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Sonofabitch! That takes a little bite out of LJs stock. I don't think it does. LJ had a few great games with Roaf out last year. Also, Everybody has got questions on their line this year. LJ is still top 3. Look at Edge...he has one of the worst lines out there, he is still a top 7 pick. Also, a s a Packer fan, look at Gado last year. Our O line was in tatters, yet he pulled of a couple of 150 yrd games, I wondere how that happened. Oh yeah...I forgot that good running backs can actually break takles and make other guys miss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 28, 2006 Awwww crap. Are you sure this is true? Awww crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Romulan 0 Posted July 28, 2006 WOW! I think ill pick Droughns first now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFan28 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Wow, that hurts. How's Black as a replacement? I forget if it was WFAN or ESPN Radio but someone said that if there's anybody that can slow down the Kansas City offense, it's Herm Edwards. Good luck Chief fans and LJ owners! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fizzelps 0 Posted July 28, 2006 As a Chiefs fan it was hard news to hear. But, I am hoping that we won't see much change in production due to this. I know there will be some as Roaf was such a great player at his position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parja 0 Posted July 28, 2006 I don't think it does. LJ had a few great games with Roaf out last year. Also, Everybody has got questions on their line this year. LJ is still top 3. Oh yeah, still Top 3. I had him projected as the clear cut #1. Now I think it's more of a toss-up between him and SA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 Posted July 28, 2006 SA, LT and LJ are truly interchangeable now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mozzy84 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Sonofabitch! That takes a little bite out of LJs stock. not to mention Tony G... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 Posted July 28, 2006 not to mention Tony G... Think he takes the biggest hit. Will be asked to stay in and block a lot more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fizzelps 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Here is the link to the article on the Kansas City Star's website. You will have to create a free account to view it. http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/15145272.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mozzy84 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Think he takes the biggest hit. Will be asked to stay in and block a lot more. so they lost two starting tackles, the o-cordinator, the head coach and a really good blocking fullback from last year? Am I thinking that right? Maybe L.J. isn't as much of lock as were thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 Posted July 28, 2006 so they lost two starting tackles, the o-cordinator, the head coach and a really good blocking fullback from last year? Am I thinking that right? Maybe L.J. isn't as much of lock as were thinking. Yep, he lost a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 71 Posted July 28, 2006 Glad the got Turley at least -- no where Near Roaf but he helps ease a little of the sting as J. Black doesn't suck totally and LJ Didn't do awful w/o Roaf last season. Though this news make sit S. Alexander L. Johnson LT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Think you really have to question LJ in dynasty formats as well. Waters is a good young player but that's about it. Shields is 35 years old and will be retiring soon as well. The rest of the line is serviceable at best. This could quickly go from being the best line in the NFL to an average one at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Label Society Posted July 28, 2006 I have to agree with Mozzy. Losing Roaf and Tony Richardson is HUGE. Coupled with the fact that he'll be playing his first FULL season as a starter, I expect that his production will drop significantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 28, 2006 Glad the got Turley at least -- no where Near Roaf but he helps ease a little of the sting as J. Black doesn't suck totally and LJ Didn't do awful w/o Roaf last season. Though this news make sit S. Alexander L. Johnson LT 3 games last year when Roaf was out and LJ was the starter.... Game 9- LJ 27 carries for 132 yards. Game 10-LJ 36 carries for 211 yards and 2 TD's. Game 11- LJ 31 carries for 119 yards and 1 TD. Jordan Black was taking Roaf's place in those games. Seems he did quite well. This Roaf retirement could cause such a tremor that by late August, LJ will be a value pick toward the middle to late 1st in redrafts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 Posted July 28, 2006 3 games last year when Roaf was out and LJ was the starter.... Game 9- LJ 27 carries for 132 yards. Game 10-LJ 36 carries for 211 yards and 2 TD's. Game 11- LJ 31 carries for 119 yards and 1 TD. Jordan Black was taking Roaf's place in those games. Seems he did quite well. This Roaf retirement could cause such a tremor that by late August, LJ will be a value pick toward the middle to late 1st in redrafts. The first two games were against Buffalo and Houston, the 2 worst run defenses in the NFL last year. Even still his YPC was below his yearly average for those 3 games and his TD average was lower as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burdsheet 0 Posted July 28, 2006 The first two games were against Buffalo and Houston, the 2 worst run defenses in the NFL last year. Even still his YPC was below his yearly average for those 3 games and his TD average was lower as well. wow ... this probably won't be a devastating loss to KC, but it's gotta hurt a little. I've got it LT, SA and LJ. I think that SA's touches will drop a little ... not because of age or anything like that. I think SA's touches will drop a little because Holmgren's faith in Hasselbeck increases a little more each year. Not to mention that Seattle made an improvement to their receiving core by picking up Burelson. Just a hunch, but I don't see Holmgren giving as many touches to SA this year compared to last for fear of SA wearing down and possibly breaking down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted July 28, 2006 Gonzo may be the one who's numbers suffer... ain't no points for blocking in my league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fizzelps 0 Posted July 28, 2006 wow ... this probably won't be a devastating loss to KC, but it's gotta hurt a little. I've got SA and LT tied for #1. I wouldn't think this would drop LJ any lower than #2. I don't see LT outperforming LJ this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burdsheet 0 Posted July 28, 2006 I wouldn't think this would drop LJ any lower than #2. I don't see LT outperforming LJ this year. true, this one thing shouldn't drop LJ more than one spot, but someone mentioned that the other guard retired earlier and they lost their blocking FB. I think the combo of these three things pushes LJ down two spots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted July 28, 2006 That should distract cmh from being a troll to rival teams' fans for a day or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronic Husker 86 Posted July 28, 2006 That should distract cmh from being a troll to rival teams' fans for a day or two. Maybe a few hours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 28, 2006 The first two games were against Buffalo and Houston, the 2 worst run defenses in the NFL last year. Even still his YPC was below his yearly average for those 3 games and his TD average was lower as well. I agree that we'll need to curb our enthusiasm for LJ's projections a bit, but it's not the end of the world. Also, I understand that Houston was a bad team last year, but 211 on any NFL team is amazing and not normal. I doubt the Houston defense gave up that many yards to any other RB they played against last year. I know Edge killed them and Alexander put up 4 td's on them WITH THEIR STARTING OL's intact, but nobody put up the yardage LJ did. Over 200 is "big time" no matter what team you're playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RamslovaMartzhata 3 Posted July 28, 2006 While it is not devastating by any means, anyone who thinks that losing an 11 time pro bowl linemen doesn't matter also needs a reality check. Not to mention Roaf not only will be missed because of his performance on the field, but his leadership on and off it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fizzelps 0 Posted July 28, 2006 ....someone mentioned that the other guard retired earlier..... They didn't have a guard retire...unless I have been living under a rock. Shields and Waters are still the starting guards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 Posted July 28, 2006 I agree that we'll need to curb our enthusiasm for LJ's projections a bit, but it's not the end of the world. Also, I understand that Houston was a bad team last year, but 211 on any NFL team is amazing and not normal. I doubt the Houston defense gave up that many yards to any other RB they played against last year. I know Edge killed them and Alexander put up 4 td's on them WITH THEIR STARTING OL, but nobody put up the yardage LJ did. Over 200 is "big time" no matter what team you're playing. True but he did have 36 carries. They worked him like a dog the second half of the year inflating his stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 71 Posted July 28, 2006 The news just keeps getting better and better for that week 1 KC matchup with the Bengals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fizzelps 0 Posted July 28, 2006 The news just keeps getting better and better for that week 1 KC matchup with the Bengals. What did the Bungles have another player suspended? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 28, 2006 The news just keeps getting better and better for that week 1 KC matchup with the Bengals. KC will have replacements for a retired Roaf and a holdout Kennison while Cincy will have "The Replacements" (Including Shane Falco at QB) because their QB has a bum leg and the rest of the team's in prison or have court dates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mozzy84 0 Posted July 28, 2006 I agree that we'll need to curb our enthusiasm for LJ's projections a bit, but it's not the end of the world. Also, I understand that Houston was a bad team last year, but 211 on any NFL team is amazing and not normal. I doubt the Houston defense gave up that many yards to any other RB they played against last year. I know Edge killed them and Alexander put up 4 td's on them WITH THEIR STARTING OL's intact, but nobody put up the yardage LJ did. Over 200 is "big time" no matter what team you're playing. I remember watching that game and kc's line was throwing around houstons d-line like they where a high school team. It actually reminded me of alexanders 4 td game. Its like all these little things have been coming up one at a time with the kc offense this offseason, and you have to think about it when drafting ANY k.c. guys now. I always thought any back would be a stud in the system they have, and the system seems to be slowly falling apart this offseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esoitl 0 Posted July 28, 2006 I agree that we'll need to curb our enthusiasm for LJ's projections a bit, but it's not the end of the world. Also, I understand that Houston was a bad team last year, but 211 on any NFL team is amazing and not normal. I doubt the Houston defense gave up that many yards to any other RB they played against last year. I know Edge killed them and Alexander put up 4 td's on them WITH THEIR STARTING OL's intact, but nobody put up the yardage LJ did. Over 200 is "big time" no matter what team you're playing. sugar coat that all you want but give ANY RB 36 carries against a poor D in a blowout and they will get 200+ yards Black sucks, he couldnt fill in even at RT let alone now at LT that was one major issue i saw with the OL to begin with that Black weakened that right side now, Turley has been working more as TE than OT so i dont see him being that great a replacement right now. he has to put on some serious weight and being out of football for the 2 or 3 years he has cannot be good, especially sicne it was due to a chronic back problem basically this line went from the best in the league to mediocre now with the 2 best players on their way out of the league the same as Roaf remember how poor even Holmes ran to the left when Roaf was out? thats what you will get all the way now.... not to mention Richardson not blocking at the point of attack.... wow, i might drop LJ to 4 now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted July 28, 2006 Roaf and Richardson are the biggest losses that LJ could have had this offseason. Well those and of course the coaches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joefry 0 Posted July 28, 2006 I remember watching that game and kc's line was throwing around houstons d-line like they where a high school team. It actually reminded me of alexanders 4 td game. Its like all these little things have been coming up one at a time with the kc offense this offseason, and you have to think about it when drafting ANY k.c. guys now. I always thought any back would be a stud in the system they have, and the system seems to be slowly falling apart this offseason. Ahh...fantasy football is in full gear now, lets start overthinking!!!!!!!!!! I have the thrid pick I think I will take DD or Mcgahee over LJ, because he clearly will only score 15 TDs now. How about Lamont J? He lost Gallery and Porter does not want to report, does that make him a third round pick now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted July 28, 2006 wow - this is a huge blow to KC. someone said no difference for LJ? I see it as a huge difference. And this also knocks down TGonz stock without Roaf, TG will be blocking a lot more. Arrrgh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mozzy84 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Ahh...fantasy football is in full gear now, lets start overthinking!!!!!!!!!! I have the thrid pick I think I will take DD or Mcgahee over LJ, because he clearly will only score 15 TDs now. How about Lamont J? He lost Gallery and Porter does not want to report, does that make him a third round pick now? what the hell are you talking about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
