p00h 85 Posted August 14, 2006 What is his role going to be in the offence this year? Is he gonna grab 4-6 catches a game for ~60-80 yards, or will he catch a 50 yard bomb every 3rd game, and disappear the rest of the time. I have no idea what their iedology is in using him, so asking. Also, what is Jimmy Smith's story, is he still with the team?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted August 14, 2006 He is a huge athletic talent and always has potemtial for a big play. However, he needs to become a better route runner to get more than a couple of catches a game. I think he will be a decent #3 WR with the potential to be a good #2 later in the season. I drafted him in the 10th round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFan28 0 Posted August 14, 2006 Jimmy Smith is no more. He's retired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 1,014 Posted August 14, 2006 Jimmy Smith is no more. He's retired. Given his past and the unexpected retirement, a lot of Jacksonville people speculated that it was probably drug related. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Shepherd 10 Posted August 14, 2006 Given his past and the unexpected retirement, a lot of Jacksonville people speculated that it was probably drug related. Jimmy will be missed - he had skilz. Smart and disciplined player. Could it be that his guts are messed up - remember that problem he had a while back? Sorry - to the subject at hand: I think Matt Jones is worth a late round pick, because there's alot of risk. On the other hand, he's got the tools and could really pan out. Up in the air still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted August 14, 2006 OK, so with Jimmy retired, any clear cut #1 in Jax?!? I know that other reggie brown cat hasn't panned out yet, is he expected to make noise this year?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nujet2002 0 Posted August 14, 2006 You're thinking of Reggie Williams not Reggie Brown. Reggie Brown has the potential to be a decent fantasy reciever this year for Philly. Right now, it looks like Ernest Wilford is slated as the number one reciever. However, Matt Jones clearly has more potential and should become the number one guy soon enough. Matt Jones is a great player to take a risk on as your 4th or 5th reciever. However, I wouldn't feel confident starting him yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josh wiley 77 Posted August 14, 2006 the player you're thinking of is reggie williams and he hasnt quite lived up to his draft pick yet. however, i think that the combination of jones, wilford and williams has good potential. i wonder if they have some smaller qjuicker wideouts to counterbalance this group of 6' 4" and up. i could see matt jones catching from 50-70 balls and gaining anywhere from 800-1000 yards with around 7 or 8 tds. this may seem inflated, but without jimmy smith the passes have to go somewhere. wilford will be more of a red zone threat and williams still has room for improvement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ras66not99 0 Posted August 14, 2006 OK, so with Jimmy retired, any clear cut #1 in Jax?!? I know that other reggie brown cat hasn't panned out yet, is he expected to make noise this year?!? No real clear cut # 1 in Jacksonville these days.... they say Matt Jones is going to be the man, but I hear Ernest Wilford is making his case as well.... Reggie Williams has never impressed me and hardly ever hear good things about him, but he was a # 1 pick (then again so was Charles Rogers and Mike Williams).... I love Wilford ever since he came out because I've read a lot about him and he puts in the work and wants to succeed at the next level.... he's a very hard worker and motivated (the type of guys I like on my Dynasty Team) Also Keep in mind No Jacksonville Wr has ever eclipsed more than 8 Td's in a season even Jimmy Smith and Keenan McCardell during their glory days there... so don't expect a monster season from any of them ... I'd say the leading WR should be around 1,000, 1,100, 1,150 with about 6 Td's sounds right... assuming one of them seperates himself from the pack as the clear # 1, if not expect all 3 players to have choppy numbers, 600, 700, 800 yard seasons.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shox 0 Posted August 14, 2006 I thought this was a thread about Matt Jones??? LOL. In my opinion he will take a big jump up the WR ranks this year. Tall and fast. I think he will score a lot of TD this year. 12+ is my prediction to go with a 1000 yards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,271 Posted August 14, 2006 the player you're thinking of is reggie williams and he hasnt quite lived up to his draft pick yet. however, i think that the combination of jones, wilford and williams has good potential. i wonder if they have some smaller qjuicker wideouts to counterbalance this group of 6' 4" and up. i could see matt jones catching from 50-70 balls and gaining anywhere from 800-1000 yards with around 7 or 8 tds. this may seem inflated, but without jimmy smith the passes have to go somewhere. wilford will be more of a red zone threat and williams still has room for improvement. If I can get mat jones as my #3 wr # 5 pick overall I will be very happy. This kid is going be a breakout WR this year. He is a 6-6 242-pound guy that ran 4.37 in the 40. He is going to be the clearcut #1 and I heard they are using him in the X spot that jimmy used to occupy. I may be way off but I am looking for a healty leftwich to get this kid 1200-1400 yards and 10-12 tds. From sporstsline "Jones is a medium-risk high-reward player who has ridiculous size and great speed for his position. He appears to be the heir apparent to Jimmy Smith in Jacksonville, so expect him to be the first wide receiver taken off its roster in drafts. He's well worth a middle- to late-round selection in all Fantasy leagues. " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ras66not99 0 Posted August 14, 2006 He is going to be the clearcut #1 This is speculation... not a fact.... (though it's more than likely) 10-12 tds. that's way too high of a prediction.... I just finished saying a few posts up that Jimmy Smith's never even eclipsed 8 Td's and no other Jag has ever for that matter.... now a RAW ex-Qb 2nd year Wr is gonna come in and score 12 ? Even great Wr's like Torry Holt and Chad Johnson don't reach 12 Td's.... I mean obviously anything is possible, but I myself like to speak in reason... 6, 7, or 8 Td's is more likely for Jones.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,271 Posted August 14, 2006 This is speculation... not a fact.... (though it's more than likely) that's way too high of a prediction.... I just finished saying a few posts up that Jimmy Smith's never even eclipsed 8 Td's and no other Jag has ever for that matter.... now a RAW ex-Qb 2nd year Wr is gonna come in and score 12 ? Even great Wr's like Torry Holt and Chad Johnson don't reach 12 Td's.... I mean obviously anything is possible, but I myself like to speak in reason... 6, 7, or 8 Td's is more likely for Jones.... ok maybe 8-10, but I am still looking for big things from this guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,963 Posted August 14, 2006 OK, so with Jimmy retired, any clear cut #1 in Jax?!? I know that other reggie brown cat hasn't panned out yet, is he expected to make noise this year?!? The Other Reggie Brown Cat?? What are we talking about here?....Philly or Jax? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted August 14, 2006 That would be Reggie Williams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjarch86 0 Posted August 14, 2006 Matt Jones will be a good break out this year. Being an Ark homer I wanted to get him last year but realistically waited and I will now to try and get him mid round of the draft. He will put up close to 1,000 yards just because the kid can flat out leave people in the dust but I think it will be another year before he breaks the 10 TD mark. There will be 5 - 6 games this year where he will break a tackle or flat out burn someone off the starting blocks to boost him 80 yards for that game and this will help pad his numbers for the season. This year: 925 Yards 9 TD potentially Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HawgWild 0 Posted August 14, 2006 Matt Jones will be a good break out this year. Being an Ark homer I wanted to get him last year but realistically waited and I will now to try and get him mid round of the draft. He will put up close to 1,000 yards just because the kid can flat out leave people in the dust but I think it will be another year before he breaks the 10 TD mark. There will be 5 - 6 games this year where he will break a tackle or flat out burn someone off the starting blocks to boost him 80 yards for that game and this will help pad his numbers for the season. This year: 925 Yards 9 TD potentially I agree.. I say about 1100 yards and 8 to 10 TD's.. By the way, where are you from? I live in Sherwood.. Go Hogs!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjarch86 0 Posted August 14, 2006 I live in Dallas now...Yeah TO But I am from Little Rock. Paul Eels RIP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HawgWild 0 Posted August 14, 2006 I live in Dallas now...Yeah TO But I am from Little Rock. Paul Eels RIP Yes it is gonna be different with Paul gone... Touchdown Arkansas.. Oh my!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassBoiler 0 Posted August 14, 2006 This is speculation... not a fact.... (though it's more than likely) that's way too high of a prediction.... I just finished saying a few posts up that Jimmy Smith's never even eclipsed 8 Td's and no other Jag has ever for that matter.... now a RAW ex-Qb 2nd year Wr is gonna come in and score 12 ? Even great Wr's like Torry Holt and Chad Johnson don't reach 12 Td's.... I mean obviously anything is possible, but I myself like to speak in reason... 6, 7, or 8 Td's is more likely for Jones.... Firstly, Holt had 12 TDs a couple years ago. Secondly, Matt Jones is a completely different WR than Smith and McCardell were/are. When you have a huge 6'6 target, he's going to be used different in goal line situations than your standard 6'0 WR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drav 0 Posted August 14, 2006 that's way too high of a prediction.... I just finished saying a few posts up that Jimmy Smith's never even eclipsed 8 Td's and no other Jag has ever for that matter.... now a RAW ex-Qb 2nd year Wr is gonna come in and score 12 ? Even great Wr's like Torry Holt and Chad Johnson don't reach 12 Td's.... I mean obviously anything is possible, but I myself like to speak in reason... 6, 7, or 8 Td's is more likely for Jones.... CC/DB is predicting 7 from him, if that helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronic Husker 86 Posted August 14, 2006 How many catches do you think Brady will steal from the WRs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted August 14, 2006 But I am from Little Rock. How's your mom/sister doing? She get those teeth fixed yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ras66not99 0 Posted August 14, 2006 Firstly, Holt had 12 TDs a couple years ago. Secondly, Matt Jones is a completely different WR than Smith and McCardell were/are. When you have a huge 6'6 target, he's going to be used different in goal line situations than your standard 6'0 WR. If he was the ONLY big man on that team I'd accept that "theory" you have there.... Ernest Wilford is 6'5.... Reggie Williams is 6'4 and Marcedes Lewis that they just drafted is 6'6... along with Kyle Brady the other TE they have on the roster at 6'6.... Not to mention a bulldozer RB in Greg Jones from inside the 5.... Maybe it's just me but I see plenty of goal line "options" in these parts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 939 Posted August 14, 2006 i could see matt jones catching from 50-70 balls and gaining anywhere from 800-1000 yards with around 7 or 8 tds. this may seem inflated, but without jimmy smith the passes have to go somewhere. wilford will be more of a red zone threat and williams still has room for improvement. Doesn't seem inflated to me,here's the catches/td's by wr's mentioned last season Smith 70 1023 yds 6 td's Wilford 41 681 yds 7 td's Jones 36 432 yds 5td's Williams 35 445 yds 0td's Like you said those passes have to go somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bjlmonster 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Doesn't seem inflated to me,here's the catches/td's by wr's mentioned last season Smith 70 1023 yds 6 td's Wilford 41 681 yds 7 td's Jones 36 432 yds 5td's Williams 35 445 yds 0td's Like you said those passes have to go somewhere. I don't see Williams doing much as the #3. Basically I think you can splitup Smith's #'s for Wilford and Jones this year. Bump them up if Leftwitch stays healthy - Bump them down if Garrard plays and Marcedes Lewis steps up. I took Jones in the 5th round of a 3 man keeper (basically 8th) as my #3 WR and I love him there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onejayhawk 3 Posted August 15, 2006 I am a Jones believer. By that I mean he could be this year's Larry Fitzgerald, but he could also be this year's TJ Housh. Its a matter of how far he comes, not of whether he is a comer. That being said, I am not looking for a huge splash out of the gate, but I will be drafting him, where possible, for the stretch. J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted August 15, 2006 How's your mom/sister doing? She get those teeth fixed yet? shoule be easy....there's only 4 of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sportslitter 0 Posted August 15, 2006 I don't see Williams doing much as the #3. Basically I think you can splitup Smith's #'s for Wilford and Jones this year. Bump them up if Leftwitch stays healthy - Bump them down if Garrard plays and Marcedes Lewis steps up. I took Jones in the 5th round of a 3 man keeper (basically 8th) as my #3 WR and I love him there. Well Marcedes Lewis has a HIGH ankle sprain and could be out months. Its the same injury that kept TO out for a couple months. The same injury happened to cortez hankton last year and he missed half the season. Matt Jones 1200 yards 9 tds The man is a BEAST in the open field ... hello YAC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatorbait7391 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Also, what is Jimmy Smith's story, is he still with the team?!? and you call yourself a fantasy football player let alone nfl fan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aggiewildlife 0 Posted August 15, 2006 I don't see why nobody seems to be talking about Wilford this year. Just briefly looking over the Geeks Consensus WR rankings, practically everybody had Jones ranked higher than Wilford. Wilford produced more than Jones last year. Wilford is more of a pure WR than Jones and likely is a better route runner, and I'm guessing faster even. Jacksonville has said he's the #1 guy there. Apparently he came into camp in immaculate conditioning, down to 2% body fat. He's big and a tough matchup. It just seems to me he seems like a better pick than Jones, even though they're both probably going to put up good numbers. Like was mentioned above, that offense is going to pose some nightmare matchup problems for defenses because of their size. Does anybody agree with me about Wilford? Any Jax homers could shed some light on the situation? Thanks... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56 0 Posted August 15, 2006 I don't see why nobody seems to be talking about Wilford this year. Just briefly looking over the Geeks Consensus WR rankings, practically everybody had Jones ranked higher than Wilford. Wilford produced more than Jones last year. Wilford is more of a pure WR than Jones and likely is a better route runner, and I'm guessing faster even. Jacksonville has said he's the #1 guy there. Apparently he came into camp in immaculate conditioning, down to 2% body fat. He's big and a tough matchup. It just seems to me he seems like a better pick than Jones, even though they're both probably going to put up good numbers. Like was mentioned above, that offense is going to pose some nightmare matchup problems for defenses because of their size. Does anybody agree with me about Wilford? Any Jax homers could shed some light on the situation? Thanks... Jones, not Wilford, has been listed as the #1 WR since Jimmy Smith retired. Wilford also was demoted to 3rd string at the start of camp, but I imagine that he must have passed by Reggie Williams by now. I'd be shocked if Willford was faster than Jones. Wilford put up a chunk of his numbers with Garrard in at QB, who all but ignored Jones. Prior to that, Lefty was zeroing in on Moonshine, not Wilford or even Jimmy Smith, and that trend resumed in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,271 Posted August 15, 2006 I'd be shocked if Willford was faster than Jones. Jones ran a 4.37 in the 40 yard dash. Wilford ran a 4.43 40-yard dash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ras66not99 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Jones, not Wilford, has been listed as the #1 WR since Jimmy Smith retired. Listed by who ? There is NO clear cut # 1 right now in Jacksonville... and that's a fact... they've both been juggling that # 1 tag...... All I kow is Wilford is one hell of a hard worker.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aggiewildlife 0 Posted August 15, 2006 http://www.jaguars.com/story/5352.asp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,271 Posted August 15, 2006 Matt Jones lined up with Jacksonville's No. 1 team as their "X" receiver Friday, replacing Jimmy Smith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aggiewildlife 0 Posted August 15, 2006 "“He [Wilford] entered training camp as the number one guy." Coach Jack Del Rio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ras66not99 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Matt Jones lined up with Jacksonville's No. 1 team as their "X" receiver Friday, replacing Jimmy Smith. Wilford is at the top of the Jaguars depth chart at one of the team's two wide receiver positions. Matt Jones tops the other spot, with Reggie Williams listed behind Jones and Chad Owens behind Wilford. “He entered training camp as the number one guy, or as one of the starters,” coach Jack Del Rio said of Wilford. “It doesn't mean anything now. It matters in September. There's nothing official until we get to September. I wouldn't put any stock in depth charts until we get close to the games,” Del Rio cautioned Like I said there's nothing official now and there' still no clear cut Wr in Jacksonville yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aggiewildlife 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Wilford is at the top of the Jaguars depth chart at one of the team's two wide receiver positions. Matt Jones tops the other spot, with Reggie Williams listed behind Jones and Chad Owens behind Wilford. “He entered training camp as the number one guy, or as one of the starters,” coach Jack Del Rio said of Wilford. “It doesn't mean anything now. It matters in September. There's nothing official until we get to September. I wouldn't put any stock in depth charts until we get close to the games,” Del Rio cautioned Like I said there's nothing official now and there' still no clear cut Wr in Jacksonville yet Wow, I can't catch the subtlety of what your point is. Maybe you need to be more clear? Seriously though, my point remains, both Wilford and Jones have a good prognosis for this year. I just don't see why Jones gets all the love and Wilford doesn't. On almost every ranking I've seen, people have Jones ranked well higher than Wilford. I would just like to see some sort of rational explanation why this is a fair assessment of the situation to me when there doesn't seem (to me at least) any reason for such a disparity between the two. I'm comfortable with saying they're both about even, although I think Wilford's better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ras66not99 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Wow, I can't catch the subtlety of what your point is. Maybe you need to be more clear? Seriously though, my point remains, both Wilford and Jones have a good prognosis for this year. I just don't see why Jones gets all the love and Wilford doesn't. On almost every ranking I've seen, people have Jones ranked well higher than Wilford. I would just like to see some sort of rational explanation why this is a fair assessment of the situation to me when there doesn't seem (to me at least) any reason for such a disparity between the two. I'm comfortable with saying they're both about even, although I think Wilford's better. I happen think Wilford is better as well Love his work ethic & attitude.... I was just pointing out that there is no clear cut # 1 in Jacksonville at the moment... to everyone that was blowing Matt Jones on the thread.... Jones may very well be at some point... just saying there is no indication of that yet is all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites