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Yes but USC lost to an unranked team....which is completely worse than losing to a ranked team....so just because they beat all the ranked teams it was ok and overlooked that they lost to an unranked team?

 

 

They are going to be ranked after this week.

 

Plus, watching both games, the Michigan game was actually not as close as the score indicated, and the USC game was closer than the score indicates(A freakin onside kick return??? WTF???).

 

 

This is straight bullsh¡t. USC started rushing 3 guys for most of the second half, and Notre Dame was helped on a scoring drive by a bogus personal foul call and they were helped throughout the game by the refs who allowed the Irish O-line to hold the entire game. SoCal destroyed Notre Dame. They pissed all over them.

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They are going to be ranked after this week.

This is straight bullsh¡t. USC started rushing 3 guys for most of the second half, and Notre Dame was helped on a scoring drive by a bogus personal foul call and they were helped throughout the game by the refs who allowed the Irish O-line to hold the entire game. SoCal destroyed Notre Dame. They pissed all over them.

 

Look at who made the comment. Have you ever seen that tool make an objective comment?

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Also, Florida didn't play a tougher schedule then USC. When, Oregon St. is in the top 25 next week, they would have played 6 top 25 teams.

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Not sure after this week. Last week, #1 was Cincinnati, #2 was Michigan, #3 was Florida. I think USC would be around #1, you know Michigan's will probably drop because ND would drop(however, Winsconsin will rise to around #5 or 6, so, it may even out). Bottom line, Michigan's one loss was against a much better opponent, on the road, by less point. USC WILL be ranked #2, and will be playing in Glendale if they get by UCLA. However, i still think Michigan is clearly the #2 team in the country for those reasons. However, USC, has won all their big games, has played some great teams, and deserves to go dispite losing to a mediocre team, and nearly losing to several mediocre-bad teams.

Plus, watching both games, the Michigan game was actually not as close as the score indicated, and the USC game was closer than the score indicates(A freakin onside kick return??? WTF???). Michigan could've scored 60 and held them to 10 if they had played their first stringers throughout, ND was deffinently in that game a couple times, and they were never close to being in the game vs. Michigan.

 

Yes, it is all because, OSU is in the same conference, are bitter rivals, and USC's big win came at the end of the year in a cruitial time, and Michigan's loss came at the end of the year. Using logic, Michigan is still the clear cut #2, but, that is not how it will be.

 

You're such an idiot. Michigan lost their chance to play for the national title. Deal with it. USC is the #2 team and deservedly so. Cry all you want, but all the Cryverines needed to do was win and they didn't. End of discussion.

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Also, Florida didn't play a tougher schedule then USC. When, Oregon St. is in the top 25 next week, they would have played 6 top 25 teams.

 

I'm curious as to who the 6 are? I count 5. And after Nebraska loses the Big 12 Championship game, it'll be 4. When the new rankings come out, Florida will have played 5 top 25 teams, with only one of those games at home.

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Because now that Oregon St. beat Oregon today, they will be in the top 25.

 

I see you keep bringing up road vs. home, so I need to ask. Is home field worth what? 15 points? 30 points? You keep acting like beating ranked teams at home isn't an accomplishment. So Florida played ranked teams on the road and squeaked by. USC played ranked teams at home and blew them out. Who cares? :wall:

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its OK to bash teams for weak matchups...

 

this was the first year that wisconsin scheduled buffalo...with the coaching connections, they were doing the Bulls a favor by scheduling them..its cash for the small schools..as if Penn State playing Temple isnt a waste of time?

 

wisconsin would LOVE ND..but when exactly can they schedule it?..NDs opponents are always set..

 

a lot of these teams had these 1 week waste of time matchups..and its awful because..with the crapass bcs system..the only you MIGHT impress the gay voters, is to run it up on a team with 1/5 the scholarships your school has..what good is THAT?...

 

im not defending playing buffalo..just saying that MANY teams do it..these schedules are set up 4 years in advance in many cases..college football needs to dump these games and either mvoe the real season up..or use those weeks and add a playoff later...

 

"the kids will get worn down and tired"... :thumbsup: wont this help them prep for a 16 week season in the nfl? for some..there wont BE the nfl..cant they have 1 more game?...

 

"it takes them away from school and their family during the holiday season" BS...no one cares that louisville plays on every day of the week when school starts..why would they care when its close to holiday break?.. dont say finals..this stuff can be worked out..

 

no one knows the last season that u of michigan beat OSU? cmon now.....i cant recall...

 

wisconsin hasnt lost to them since 2002..a 19-14 squeaker..maybe a reason why OSU is conveniently 1 of the 2 teams that wisconsin doesnt get anymore? :cheers:

2006- bowling green, Western Illinois,SD State,Buffalo

2005- bowling green, temple, NC, Hawaii

2004- Central Florida, UNLV, Arizona

2003- West Virginia, Akron, UNLV, NC

2002- Fresno St, UNLV, WV, Northern Illinois

 

Scheduling a soft game or 2 is one thing, please don't tell me that you are going to defend what has to be one of the weakest non-conf schedules for the past 5 years. I will give UW credit for not scheduling 1-AA schools. Five BCS confernce teams and non of them any good when they scheduled them. I also agree that the big 10 needs a better scheduling process so that teams play each other more regularly. But what do we expect from a conference with 11 teams thats called the Big 10? :wall:

 

Because now that Oregon St. beat Oregon today, they will be in the top 25.

 

I see you keep bringing up road vs. home, so I need to ask. Is home field worth what? 15 points? 30 points? You keep acting like beating ranked teams at home isn't an accomplishment. So Florida played ranked teams on the road and squeaked by. USC played ranked teams at home and blew them out. Who cares? :banana:

A few years ago, margin of victory was removed from the computers, did they add it back in?

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I lay it on the line right now that I bet OSU beats USC by more than 2 TDs. OSU played ND at home and, regardless of the score, struggled with them at times. OSU will not get in the red zone 5 times and only come away with 10 points.

 

Michigan is most definitely the number 2 team in the land regardless of what the pollsters say.

 

 

I am curious why the SEC thinks that they have the toughest schedule. The only game that I found out of conference worth mentioning was Arkansas losing to USC at home by 36 points. If you even try to mention games against the ACC teams you will only look foolish since the ACC may very well be the weakest conference in football this year followed closely by the Big East.

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Just out of curiosity...

 

IF there was a playoff system with say...the top 8 teams, who would you want in the playoffs this year???

 

1. OSU

2. Florida

3. Michigan

4. USC

5. Louisville

6. Wisconsin

7. ???

8. ???

 

I'm a supporter of the playoff system. However, we'd still have problems deciding who should get into the playoffs. I mean...this year, who'd get the #7 and #8 spots??? Boise State is undefeated but their #12 in the rankings. Notre Dame, West Virginia, Arkansas, LSU, and Oklahoma all have two losses.

 

:wall:

 

Well wouldn't it be the same 8 teams that play in the BCS bowls?

 

The winners of the major conferences then the At-Large teams

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If USC wins out, I think they should have a shot. If I was a Michigan fan, I would want a rematch also, but honestly they had their shot. Sure it was at OSU, but thats how things go, next year OSU goes to Michigan.

 

 

Like I said, I would want a rematch if I was a MU fan, but I think USC deserves a shot now, if they win out.

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I lay it on the line right now that I bet OSU beats USC by more than 2 TDs. OSU played ND at home and, regardless of the score, struggled with them at times. OSU will not get in the red zone 5 times and only come away with 10 points.

 

Michigan is most definitely the number 2 team in the land regardless of what the pollsters say.

I am curious why the SEC thinks that they have the toughest schedule. The only game that I found out of conference worth mentioning was Arkansas losing to USC at home by 36 points. If you even try to mention games against the ACC teams you will only look foolish since the ACC may very well be the weakest conference in football this year followed closely by the Big East.

 

Who exactly is this OSU that struggled at times vs Notre Dame?

 

Seems like people want a college football playoff system...until their team loses. "Michigan is DEFINITELY the #2 team in the country, regardless what the pollsters say...because it's what I say!"

 

Want playoffs? Michigan's started last week, and they lost. Want a rematch against a conference opponent? Have a conference championship game. There's no reason not to: regular season ended early enough, they're huge cash cows, Big 10 fans would love it. So why don't they? Because they know that a late season loss by one of their teams can kill it's national title hopes.

 

On Selection Sunday for the NCAA tournament, they talk every year about rewarding teams that finished the season strong. Close or not, #1 or not, Michigan lost at the worst time of the year. They had their chance to prove they could beat Ohio State. Now it's USC's turn, provided they win out.

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You are WRONG...anytime a team drops in rankings from where they were when you beat them...takes away from the "quality win" and points given towards BCS rankings. Just like if they kick a$$ after, it improves ranking points and strength of sched.

 

You may be right that's how the BCS does it, (I didn't know that), but it certainly shouldn't be that way. It should be where the team was ranked when you play them. Even from a football standpoint that just makes sense.

 

Hypothetically, if a #1 team gets beat and their star QB and RB get injured in the following game and they go on to lose the rest of their games, it wouldn't make any sense to look at their ranking at the end of the season. They were a #1 team when they initially lost.

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I lay it on the line right now that I bet OSU beats USC by more than 2 TDs. OSU played ND at home and, regardless of the score, struggled with them at times. OSU will not get in the red zone 5 times and only come away with 10 points.

 

Michigan is most definitely the number 2 team in the land regardless of what the pollsters say.

I am curious why the SEC thinks that they have the toughest schedule. The only game that I found out of conference worth mentioning was Arkansas losing to USC at home by 36 points. If you even try to mention games against the ACC teams you will only look foolish since the ACC may very well be the weakest conference in football this year followed closely by the Big East.

 

 

You're as objective on the subject as Can't Grasp This.

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Because frankly, Team A beats Team B and Team B Beats Team C does not equal Team A better than Team C. If you play the "who beat who by how much" game there is no right answer.

 

The answer is that, barring a playoff, people and computers put in the two teams they think are most deserving to play for a national championship. USC gets the nod over Michigan for many reasons:

 

1) USC had a tougher non-conference schedule consisting of real teams... Arkansas, Nebraska, Notre Dame.

2) Michigan had a laugher non-conference schedule of .... Vanderbilt, Central Michigan, and Notre Dame.

3) USC is the only team to have wins over 4 of the BCS's top 25 teams - Michigan beat ND and Wisconsin... and wisconsin's big non-conference schedule was bowling green, western illinois, and san diego state.

4) Michigan lost later in the year than USC... in fact, putting a team in the BCS championship following a loss would be a USC-Oklahoma type disaster.

5) USC beat Notre Dame at their best (after a winning streak)... Michigan beat them early in the year.

6) Michigan couldn't win their conference.

7) USC won their conference.

8) Michigan had its shot at OSU and lost, USC hasn't yet.

 

If USC beats UCLA, it's an obvious choice over Michigan, despite Michigan being a very good team.... I know I have the obvious USC bias, but I'm happy voters are rewarding scheduling real teams for non-conference play. You schedule Western Carolina and Central Michigan... you sit home on Jan 8 over the team that schedules Arkansas and Nebraska. Yeah that's right, USC scheduled the top independent (ND), and two teams playing for conference titles next week (N, Ark).

 

You are WRONG....U of M has played 4 teams in the BCS top 25...they won 3(ND, WIS and PSU....yes Penn st is in the BCS top 25)....There only loss was to OSU....the #1 team by 3 on the road...so to me this arguement holds no water...I guess it would have been better for U of M to have lost to say Minnesota or Iowa...it wouldn't have hurt them as as much both in BCS and human polls....

 

and when they played Iowa the were ranked in the top 15-20...so now what???

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Michigan should play and it's not even close.

 

 

Wow. Now that is some well based and solid arguments as to why Michigan should play.

 

:D

 

USC gave up their claim to a National Championship when they lost at home to unranked Oregon State.

 

I honestly don't give a rat's ass who plays, but when did USC lose this game exactly? Based on the stupid system of college football this plays a key factor. They lost several weeks ago and have since then played well and moved up when other teams lost. Texas choked it, Florida choked it and so on. Michigan has no claim to it because they already had their shot last week and lost. All the Michigan crybabies that think they deserve another shot needs to shut their pieholes. They had their chance and lost. Get in the back of the line.

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I honestly don't give a rat's ass who plays, but when did USC lose this game exactly? Based on the stupid system of college football this plays a key factor. They lost several weeks ago and have since then played well and moved up when other teams lost.

 

So all other things being equal, losing early to an unranked team is better than losing late? That ain't right. A loss to unranked team, AT HOME no less, should be a deathnail for any team regardless of when they lost it.

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Wow. Now that is some well based and solid arguments as to why Michigan should play.

 

;)

I honestly don't give a rat's ass who plays, but when did USC lose this game exactly? Based on the stupid system of college football this plays a key factor. They lost several weeks ago and have since then played well and moved up when other teams lost. Texas choked it, Florida choked it and so on. Michigan has no claim to it because they already had their shot last week and lost. All the Michigan crybabies that think they deserve another shot needs to shut their pieholes. They had their chance and lost. Get in the back of the line.

 

um, mich isn't moving to the back of the line--but, yes, most likely 2nd in line behind usc now.

 

calm down.

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Wow. Now that is some well based and solid arguments as to why Michigan should play.

 

;)

I honestly don't give a rat's ass who plays, but when did USC lose this game exactly? Based on the stupid system of college football this plays a key factor. They lost several weeks ago and have since then played well and moved up when other teams lost. Texas choked it, Florida choked it and so on. Michigan has no claim to it because they already had their shot last week and lost. All the Michigan crybabies that think they deserve another shot needs to shut their pieholes. They had their chance and lost. Get in the back of the line.

 

 

They lost 4 weeks ago...and moved up by beating Oreon and Cal....both of whom suck...Oregon lost again this week....Florida lost about 6 weeks ago...and were jumped by USC for no reason...the whole system sucks...there are 3 or 4 teams that have claim for the right to challenge OSU...only 1 will get the chance...regardless of who that is...its BS...

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um, mich isn't moving to the back of the line--but, yes, most likely 2nd in line behind usc now.

 

calm down.

 

I'm calm and laughing at all you Michigan homers crying saying the Wolverines are clearly the 2nd best team. Clearly based on what? And moving to the back of the line was obviously a sarcastic comment which you never seem to grasp in the first place.

 

 

So all other things being equal, losing early to an unranked team is better than losing late? That ain't right. A loss to unranked team, AT HOME no less, should be a deathnail for any team regardless of when they lost it.

 

I agree they shouldn't have lost to them, but until the system is fixed it is what it is. If any team deserves a shot it's Florida because they play in the toughest conference in the nation. Since the Wolverines fans are crying saying they deserve the #2, I'd say they would have more losses in the SEC than Florida has.

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USC gave up their claim to a National Championship when they lost at home to unranked Oregon State.

It was on the road...U.S.C hasn't lost at home in it's last 33 tries....but I get your point

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I'm calm and laughing at all you Michigan homers crying saying the Wolverines are clearly the 2nd best team. Clearly based on what? And moving to the back of the line was obviously a sarcastic comment which you never seem to grasp in the first place.

I agree they shouldn't have lost to them, but until the system is fixed it is what it is. If any team deserves a shot it's Florida because they play in the toughest conference in the nation. Since the Wolverines fans are crying saying they deserve the #2, I'd say they would have more losses in the SEC than Florida has.

 

 

 

Since you like the "based on what"...UM would have more losses in the SEC "based on what"????

 

Who knows...they could be undefeated!

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It was on the road...U.S.C hasn't lost at home in it's last 33 tries....but I get your point

Oops, you're right. I thought they were at home.

 

Well, it's still an unranked loss.

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Since you like the "based on what"...UM would have more losses in the SEC "based on what"????

 

Who knows...they could be undefeated!

 

Which is exactly my point. Michigan lost when they needed to win the most. All you Michigan homers that seem to think without question Michigan is the 2nd best team has less of an argument than Florida at this point in the season. Florida might be able to beat OSU and go undefeated in the Big Ten as well.

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If any team deserves a shot it's Florida because they play in the toughest conference in the nation. Since the Wolverines fans are crying saying they deserve the #2, I'd say they would have more losses in the SEC than Florida has.

 

Agreed. But even as a Gator fan I will say this: If we're going to analyze a loss (ie: ranked team? At home? Close game?), then to be fair we also have to analyze the wins. And Florida's wins haven't been all that impressive. It stinks that a 1 point win counts less than a 20 point win. But unfortunately that's the way it is under this ridiculous system where we have to decide between a bunch of 1 loss teams. And that's Florida's only weakness.

 

Strength: Florida's only loss was a close game on the road to Auburn.

 

Strength: Florida's schedule is one of the toughest in the nation. And will include the SEC title game.

 

Weakness: Florida's wins haven't been impressive.

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Because now that Oregon St. beat Oregon today, they will be in the top 25.

 

I included OSU in the 5. Notre Dame, Arkansas, Cal, Oregon State, Nebraska. I'll ask again, who's the 6th?

 

I see you keep bringing up road vs. home, so I need to ask. Is home field worth what? 15 points? 30 points?

 

Something like that.

 

You keep acting like beating ranked teams at home isn't an accomplishment. So Florida played ranked teams on the road and squeaked by. USC played ranked teams at home and blew them out. Who cares? :cheers:

 

I give USC credit for winning more games handily than Florida did. (Although USC did squeak by in some games they shouldn't have.) But if we're talking about who has the tougher schedule, the home versus road counts. You're the one who made the statement, "Florida didn't play a tougher schedule then USC.," so when you ask "Who cares?" I would think the answer to your question includes yourself.

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For those that didn't follow the USC Oregon St game...

 

USC had 4 turnovers and allowed a punt return for a TD.

USC trailed 30-10.

USC woke up, and missed a two point conversion at the end of the game which would have forced OT.

 

It's not a bad loss, as it was due to sloppiness. Oregon St is a tough place to play, and Oregon St is not a pushover, with 7 wins and going bowling this year.

 

USC, to me, looks like a better team than Michigan. USC just blew out 3 quality opponents in a row in Oregon, Cal, and Notre Dame. No team is playing better in the nation right now.

 

However, I would rather have Boise St play in the national championship game. I don't care if they lose to Ohio St. It's bullsh!t that an undefeated, probably will be ranked in the top 10, team can't get a shot at the title. Say what you want about their schedule, the other teams blew their chances when they LOST.

 

Boise St is much more deserving than Michigan, and as deserving as USC. But that's just me.

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For those that didn't follow the USC Oregon St game...

 

USC had 4 turnovers and allowed a punt return for a TD.

USC trailed 30-10.

USC woke up, and missed a two point conversion at the end of the game which would have forced OT.

 

It's not a bad loss, as it was due to sloppiness. Oregon St is a tough place to play, and Oregon St is not a pushover, with 7 wins and going bowling this year.

 

The Oregon State loss was definitely bad. The Beavers had been dominated by both Boise State and Cal. Oregon State’s best win this year (aside from USC) was against Oregon, who is only above .500 because of the officiating fiasco against Oklahoma. If you want to make a case for USC based on the best games they’ve played, that’s fine. But don’t kid yourself, the Trojans have by far the worst loss among the top contenders.

 

You said, “It’s not a bad loss, as it was due to sloppiness.” If it was due to sloppiness, to me that means it was a bad loss, it means the Trojans have themselves to blame. Florida can at least blame the refs (although Urban Meyer refuses to do so) and credit the opponent (a 10-2 team with a home crowd twice the size of Oregon State’s) in the Auburn game. A recap for those that didn’t follow it…

 

Florida trailed 18-17 in the 4th quarter. They drove 84 yards in 3:24 to the Auburn 6. On 3rd down an incomplete pass by Chris Leak was incorrectly ruled as a fumble. The ball clearly had left his hand and was going forward when it was deflected by the Auburn defender. Replay incorrectly support the original call, falsely asserting that Leak was tucking the ball away when the defender batted it. Additionally, the booth focked up by not stopping the game to review the play, forcing Florida to waste a timeout to get a review. If the correct call had been made, the Gators would have had a 23 yard field goal attempt to take the lead. And the Tigers offense had only generated 275 yards and 9 points to that point. Even if the FG was missed, the Tigers would get the ball at their own 6. Instead, the “fumble” return (to the 38) and lost timeout allowed Auburn to control both field position and clock management. Now that is what you call not a bad loss.

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So all other things being equal, losing early to an unranked team is better than losing late? That ain't right. A loss to unranked team, AT HOME no less, should be a deathnail for any team regardless of when they lost it.

 

 

SC lost by 2 to Oregon St in Corvalis, by tj's system that means they actually won by 28 anyway.

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2006- bowling green, Western Illinois,SD State,Buffalo

2005- bowling green, temple, NC, Hawaii

2004- Central Florida, UNLV, Arizona

2003- West Virginia, Akron, UNLV, NC

2002- Fresno St, UNLV, WV, Northern Illinois

 

Scheduling a soft game or 2 is one thing, please don't tell me that you are going to defend what has to be one of the weakest non-conf schedules for the past 5 years. I will give UW credit for not scheduling 1-AA schools. Five BCS confernce teams and non of them any good when they scheduled them. I also agree that the big 10 needs a better scheduling process so that teams play each other more regularly. But what do we expect from a conference with 11 teams thats called the Big 10? :cry:

A few years ago, margin of victory was removed from the computers, did they add it back in?

 

 

in fairness..when can wisconsin add usc, ND or florida state to their non conference schedules? you do realize that there are no openings, correct?

 

im not defending the weak opponents..though as far as ND is concerned..i dont see the air force, navy, army, and ga tech as tough games either..but every year we get it..these teams wont get rid of the $$ they get playing ND..so theres no opening for wisc to play ND

 

as for the buffalo game..it made NO difference that they played them the last week of the year..the BCS already determined that 3 big ten teams cant be in the BCS...

 

add a playoff and we dont have to worry about the penn states of the world trying to score 60 on temple.. or michigan playing the smaller schools of their state...

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For those that didn't follow the USC Oregon St game...

 

USC had 4 turnovers and allowed a punt return for a TD.

USC trailed 30-10.

USC woke up, and missed a two point conversion at the end of the game which would have forced OT.

 

It's not a bad loss, as it was due to sloppiness. Oregon St is a tough place to play, and Oregon St is not a pushover, with 7 wins and going bowling this year.

 

USC, to me, looks like a better team than Michigan. USC just blew out 3 quality opponents in a row in Oregon, Cal, and Notre Dame. No team is playing better in the nation right now.

 

However, I would rather have Boise St play in the national championship game. I don't care if they lose to Ohio St. It's bullsh!t that an undefeated, probably will be ranked in the top 10, team can't get a shot at the title. Say what you want about their schedule, the other teams blew their chances when they LOST.

 

Boise St is much more deserving than Michigan, and as deserving as USC. But that's just me.

 

I get what your saying, but, how is BSU MUCH more deserving than Mich, and AS deserving as USC??? I agree, Boise deffinently should get a shot, they did all they could possibly do, go undefeated. They haven't faced the strongest schedule, but, they still did all they can do, go 12-0, and win each game convincingly on top of that. However, both USC and Michigan loss a game, with the logic you were using for BSU, that would mean Michigan and USC are basically equals since they both couldn't go undefeated and have one loss. Again, i agree BSU should get their chance, i think 12-0 is 12-0 no matter what your SOS is. They will still play in a BCS bowl, which is cool.

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in fairness..when can wisconsin add usc, ND or florida state to their non conference schedules? you do realize that there are no openings, correct?

 

 

 

 

They had PLENTY of opportunity to add quality opponents when making the schedule....this is a very weak arguement....please tell me you are a true Wisc fan and not this ignorant about college football.

 

Of course there are no openings now...the sched is done years in advance....they could easily sched some SCC, ACC, Pac-10 or even Big East quality opponents.

 

 

Its all over now anyway.....unless SC gets upset next week

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Couple of points:

 

As a WI fan, I think it absolutely sucks that WI is douched out of a BCS bowl because of the stupid "no 3 teams from the same conference" rule. Like much about the BCS it is BS.

 

Say what you want about having Buffalo on the schedule, it was not WI's idea. They were supposed to play Maryland (I think) and they MD backed out at the last minute (for a more lucrative home game) and it wasn't until somewhere around the second or third week of the season that WI could find ANYONE to play.

 

Back on topic. Who has the "best" loss of the 1 loss teams? Clearly MI (and I hate them, so no bias). 3 pt loss on the road to the #1. End of story. Will it happen? NO! Why?

 

I haven't read this whole thread but the one thing that the NCAA wants more than anything else is $. $ comes from ratings. It will be USC, unless they trip over UCLA just for that reason. They will rig the computers to make sure it happens. The fallback will be FL. The ratings for an OSU-MI rematch would produce the lowest ratings of the 3 possiblities. Only happens if both USC and FL stumble.

 

And Boise St? Good luck with those ratings.

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I haven't read this whole thread but the one thing that the NCAA wants more than anything else is $. $ comes from ratings. It will be USC, unless they trip over UCLA just for that reason. They will rig the computers to make sure it happens.

 

Computers "rigged" to get USC in the BCS title game? Just like when USC was #1 in both polls and got left out?

 

I agree with many of your points, but the conspiracy thing goes a little far.

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They will rig the computers to make sure it happens.

 

 

They dont have to rig anything...quality wins count more than anything...strength of schedule is based on your opponents winning percentage...but if your opponent is D-1AA or D-2, doesnt count for much. Losses and SOS dont count as much as quality wins. According to the current system, that has been in place for almost ten years, USC is #2. Michigan "only" losing by 3...doesnt matter... that was a win they needed and they knew it going in. Now is that system right or place emphasis in the correct area to get the true matchup at the end??...I dont think so. But that is the arguement that needs to be made, not whining about individual teams.

 

Oh...and Boise will play the Big 12 champ in the Fiesta...Orange will be Gtech/Wake vs Florida(if they lose)or LSU...Sugar is Rutgers Louisville vs Florida/Ark...and Rose will be ND/UM rematch..marking the first time ND has been there since the Rockne era...talk about ratings!!

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Pete Carroll and the Trojans have lost three games in four years by an aggregate total of 10 points. Anyone who doubts that program needs a reality check.

 

Even as an USC homer, I'll admit that Michigan is at least in the same league as USC... but I do have to say who wants to see the same game again? And what if Michigan wins a close one.. do they deserve the (AP) title over OSU? OSU beat them and had a much tougher schedule IMHO.

 

Regardless of all these opinions, we all know who is going to Glendale to face the Buckeyes.

 

Fight on B!tches :P

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SC lost by 2 to Oregon St in Corvalis, by tj's system that means they actually won by 28 anyway.

 

Honestly, nobody, I can't see how you put so little stock into home field advantage, let alone to the point of mocking my emphasis on it. In fact, I'd like for you to clarify just how little it means to you. You asked me earlier how many points I think it's worth. How many points do you think home field is worth? 0? 3? Some in reality during the game, but none as far as rankings should be concerned? Let's hear your take, you brought it up.

 

You may not have been satisfied with the vague answer I gave before about how many points it's worth (I inferred your reaction based on the lack of direct response, because I'm clever like that), but I'm not one to bet on spreads so I truthfully don't look at this stuff in terms of certain factors being worth a certain number of points. What I know is that home teams win a lot more than road teams do. Home teams in the NFL have won 58% of the time this year, and I'm pretty confident that home field advantage is significantly more important in college football, with the bigger crowds, and players that are less-composed, less-prepared to handle adversity in communication, and less experienced with road gameday routines.

It's no coincidence that all of the Trojans' losses in the last few years have been away from home. Also, neither the Gators nor Urban Meyer have lost a home game since 2003. If Florida could play Ohio State, Michigan, USC, and Notre Dame all at home, and average teams on the road, they'd have a better chance of going undefeated than they did this year with their real schedule. I understand about style points and all that, but the Gators are not getting the credit they deserve should they finish with just one loss, after all the strong opponents at road and neutral sites.

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