Per TNG's request

[Big_Pete 0]

... and 30 years ago a lot of people's listed cause of death was"natural causes." It must be that cancer, and heart conditions, etc., which were harder to diagnose given the state of the art at that time "must not have existed."

 

The next time you see a chemotherapy-ridden cancer patient, I sure hope you go and tell them that they're "taking the easy way out."

 

chemo is the hardest way out btw

I have family members, CLOSE family members who have cancer and have died of cancer, and some that were healed from cancer.... I'm definately well versed in that topic.

[kutulu 1,676]

We are really getting away on too many tangents and away from the most important thing in all of this.

Can we please get back to the scissor-kicking and/or strap-on action between the ladies?  I was almost finished

 

You are right, I am going to use my extra strong mental capabilities to make women have scissor-kicking and/or strap-on action in front of me for my sick perverted pleasures.

[Big_Pete 0]

You are right, I am going to use my extra strong mental capabilities to make women have scissor-kicking and/or strap-on action in front of me for my sick perverted pleasures.

sorry I ever brought up the fact that a human mind is strong enough for the likes of reason and independant though

tom cruise and all the scientologists are quacks

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

You are right, I am going to use my extra strong mental capabilities to make women have scissor-kicking and/or strap-on action in front of me for my sick perverted pleasures.

 

How is that "sick and perverted"? Hot lesbo action is as American as apple pie. If you think that such activities are sick and perverted, then perhaps you don't mind letting the terrorists win.

[craphouse rats 0]

I love lamp!

[Big_Pete 0]

I love lamp!

[TheNewGirl 1,480]

Big Pete, question for you...

 

Do you think that people who use alcohol or drugs to escape life are any different than those who take medication? Is SELF medication any different than those who use medication in a control environment, that is monitored CLOSELY by a doctor that is fully aware of the side effects and issues that might stem from taking them? Someone who has to come home from work everyday and get drunk to cope, or someone who comes home from work and smokes a fatty to "decompress..." They are NOT any different. Even people who smoke have chemical imbalances.

 

Drinking and drug use causes CHEMICAL IMBALANCES in your body...that's why you have withdrawl symptoms. Your body is missing those chemicals and it freaks out. Same as in depression and anxiety. Your body is misfiring/releasing hormones that aren't correct.

 

In depression or anxiety, the normal hormones that react to those feelings; sadness, fight or flight, etc are "misfiring" causing the fight/flight to occur when there is no danger. Our bodies are programmed to know when to fight something (another person, for example) or flight (run away as fast as we can). Something in our digestive system triggers to the small and large intestine to "dump" anything that's in there so that when we run, our bodies are lighter in weight, can move faster, and can use up any immediate fuel in our muscles (carbs). Hence the reason that some people get upset stomachs before interviews, or anything that makes them nervous.

Depression hormones usually fire to where you go through a bad situation, but you recover from it...depressives don't always have those hormones firing in the correct order, or they don't get enough uptake from those hormones...resulting in a thought/feeling process that can spiral out of control.

 

Science is neat, and the way that our bodies and brains are programmed to work, is truly amazing. Trust me, I have done so much research on WHY I am the way I am. It's facsinating.

 

Throw a couple of pregnancies in there (hormones all FUBAR), and then breastfeeding for a year (again, hormones basically shut off and not doing what some of them are supposed to be doing)...depression might get worse or better for some women during this time.

 

Also, chances are that if an adult has depression, they WERE born with it. As I have found out, when I realized I needed to tell my family what was gong on, that other relatives have had these problems as well. My mom and I were talking about it last night, my symptoms, my feelings and when she said, "I know EXACTLY what you mean..." that was the biggest relief that one could feel. Does it mean I am better? No. Does it MAKE it easier? Fock yes.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

Big Pete, question for you...

 

Unless this makes you feel better, why are you wasting your time in trying to explain it to him?

[kutulu 1,676]

sorry I ever brought up the fact that a human mind is strong enough for the likes of reason and independant though

tom cruise and all the scientologists are quacks

 

Remember I said for some yes for some no, but just to say a blanket statement that all adults who "suffer depression can overcome it through just will power" is just as bad as people who try to fix everything by popping some meds. There is a wide spectrum of remedies...it really depends on the situation, IMO.

[TheNewGirl 1,480]

Unless this makes you feel better, why are you wasting your time in trying to explain it to him?

 

 

I honestly don't know the answer to this question.

 

I guess some part of me does want him to understand, just like I want everyone to understand HOW and WHY some people get the way that they do sometimes.

 

His ignorance is TRULY showing in regards to this topic, and I guess I am hoping that he is able to see the other side of the coin, and that things aren't always as peachy and cut and dry out there.

 

At any rate, I am off to SF...and to try and relax and be calm on my way there.

 

Have a good day, Geeks. And thank you.

[Mephisto 15]

That's how I read it. Apparently, Big Pete is so mentally strong he could overcome chemical imbalances in his brain through sheer force of will. Just one more reason the ladies swoon over him.

 

Big Pete > Chuck Norris

 

It seems that while I've been away, TNG has really gone off the focking deep end. It's quite sad to watch, actually. That... and she's obviously let her self go to quite a significant degree.

[kutulu 1,676]

How is that "sick and perverted"? Hot lesbo action is as American as apple pie. If you think that such activities are sick and perverted, then perhaps you don't mind letting the terrorists win.

 

You are confusing the hot lesbo action and my sick perverted pleasures. While they may be going on in the same room, they are not the same thing. HTH

[kpbuckeye 3]

Big Pete > Chuck Norris

 

It seems that while I've been away, TNG has really gone off the focking deep end. It's quite sad to watch, actually. That... and she's obviously let her self go to quite a significant degree.

 

she is just having a bad week. we all have them every so often.

 

 

 

 

now would be a good time for joneo to show up with a nasty arse video to lighten things up.

[Big_Pete 0]

TNG, I'll answer these 100% truthfully, all BS removed.

and btw, sorry for the TFG references, knowing that you don't want meds, and are taking less than what was prescribed to you really moved you up in my book. (not that you should care)

Big Pete, question for you...

 

Do you think that people who use alcohol or drugs to escape life are any different than those who take medication?

nope, I consider them equals. whether you drink your existence away, or pop pills, or do whatever drugs (pills are drugs too), it's all for the same exact reason.... "to escape reality"

Is SELF medication any different than those who use medication in a control environment, that is monitored CLOSELY by a doctor that is fully aware of the side effects and issues that might stem from taking them?

I think they are different, but I also think that alot of shrinks want to keep their patients on the meds cause it makes them appear competent and that they are doing a good job, cause you are medicated and not "in danger" anymore.

Someone who has to come home from work everyday and get drunk to cope, or someone who comes home from work and smokes a fatty to "decompress..." They are NOT any different. Even people who smoke have chemical imbalances.

not chemical imbalances, but chemical dependencies

 

Drinking and drug use causes CHEMICAL IMBALANCES in your body...that's why you have withdrawl symptoms. Your body is missing those chemicals and it freaks out. Same as in depression and anxiety. Your body is misfiring/releasing hormones that aren't correct.

this is true, but as with alcoholism and drug dependencies, you can pull yourself out of it without meds.

I can look at meds for depression the same way as heroin addicts who are in rehab and given mescalone (spelling). It should be used for a short period of time, and only until the patient is just strong enough to be out of the catestrophic danger zone.

In depression or anxiety, the normal hormones that react to those feelings; sadness, fight or flight, etc are "misfiring" causing the fight/flight to occur when there is no danger. Our bodies are programmed to know when to fight something (another person, for example) or flight (run away as fast as we can). Something in our digestive system triggers to the small and large intestine to "dump" anything that's in there so that when we run, our bodies are lighter in weight, can move faster, and can use up any immediate fuel in our muscles (carbs). Hence the reason that some people get upset stomachs before interviews, or anything that makes them nervous.

Depression hormones usually fire to where you go through a bad situation, but you recover from it...depressives don't always have those hormones firing in the correct order, or they don't get enough uptake from those hormones...resulting in a thought/feeling process that can spiral out of control.

true.

Science is neat, and the way that our bodies and brains are programmed to work, is truly amazing. Trust me, I have done so much research on WHY I am the way I am. It's facsinating.

 

Throw a couple of pregnancies in there (hormones all FUBAR), and then breastfeeding for a year (again, hormones basically shut off and not doing what some of them are supposed to be doing)...depression might get worse or better for some women during this time.

I really feel for you for going through it at that time. I understand that breast feeding is one of the hardest, most painful things a woman can go through, and being depressed clearly wouldn't help it.

Also, chances are that if an adult has depression, they WERE born with it. As I have found out, when I realized I needed to tell my family what was gong on, that other relatives have had these problems as well. My mom and I were talking about it last night, my symptoms, my feelings and when she said, "I know EXACTLY what you mean..." that was the biggest relief that one could feel. Does it mean I am better? No. Does it MAKE it easier? Fock yes.

While I don't think that depression is a hereditary thing (i.e. can be passed down the family tree), I believe that the ways to deal with depression, or the allowing it to begin, and then grow into depression CAN BE passed down.

It's the whole "nature -vs- nurture" debate.

Everyone has the capacity/dangers of being depressed.... everybody!!!

But some have stronger family/friends/influences that they can grow up around, or have in their life at the time that they could possibly slip into depression, and that would nip it in the bud.

If you have a weaker network around you, then the same mistakes that were made by them, could be made by you, and hense appear to be "passed on" to you through people such as family members.

 

I hope you read that for what it is, and not with any kind of blinders on, such as the davebg dog crap thread.

I have a feeling you'll read it for what it is, and for that, I thank you. And hopefully it'll help you in your journey, or open up some more doors in your mind that will maybe lead you to answers for the questions you have.

 

Remember I said for some yes for some no, but just to say a blanket statement that all adults who "suffer depression can overcome it through just will power" is just as bad as people who try to fix everything by popping some meds. There is a wide spectrum of remedies...it really depends on the situation, IMO.

you are correct, and I think it's the whole "if it worked for you, you'll try to dish out the same advice to everyone" type of thing

[SWC 0]

I am using my mental powers to compel this fanfockingtastic trainwreck of a thread to delete itself.

[Meglamaniac 482]

chemo is the hardest way out btw

I have family members, CLOSE family members who have cancer and have died of cancer, and some that were healed from cancer.... I'm definately well versed in that topic.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Chemo is not a 'way out', its a treatment of choice, made by millions, for many it's the only hope they have. If you have ever been close to anyone that has had to endure the affects of chemo there is no way you can think anything less of them for what they are having to go through.

[Jessy 0]

You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Chemo is not a 'way out', its a treatment of choice, made by millions, for many it's the only hope they have. If you have ever been close to anyone that has had to endure the affects of chemo there is no way you can think anything less of them for what they are having to go through.

 

You'll have to cut Big Pete some slack, Megla. He very recently revealed to us that he is not, in fact, a doctor. We're all reeling here and trying to get our bearings at the moment.

[Big_Pete 0]

You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Chemo is not a 'way out', its a treatment of choice, made by millions, for many it's the only hope they have. If you have ever been close to anyone that has had to endure the affects of chemo there is no way you can think anything less of them for what they are having to go through.

assclown, I was replying to SWC's "easy way out" statement.

for focks sake, you're looking at this with blinders on.

chemo is terrible, and every single person I've ever known that has undergone chemo has suffered more than I'd wish on my enemies and they have all died within 2 years of gruesome agonizing pain!

[Mephisto 15]

Thanks for the pics! Jeebus! Did TNG double in size or what? WOW.

[cgod 0]

If TFG and Saw's situations were reversed, I'd be ripping on Saw instead.

and if niether of them were sucking your d!ck this thread probably would have died a quick and painless death.

 

It's a funny, laugh

 

TNG & saw - keep up the good fight in your respective battles. You're both far stronger than most for coming as far as you have.

[Big_Pete 0]

and if niether of them were sucking your d!ck this thread probably would have died a quick and painless death.

 

It's a funny, laugh

 

TNG & saw - keep up the good fight in your respective battles. You're both far stronger than most for coming as far as you have.

[Mephisto 15]

TNG & saw - keep up the good fight in your respective battles. You're both far stronger than most for coming as far as you have.

 

...and perhaps a little fatter and foreheader.

[cgod 0]

...and perhaps a little fatter and foreheader.

Your appearances, with this handle at least, are few and far between but you certainly try to make the most of them don't you?

[SWC 0]

foreheader.

 

I prefer the term "fivehead."

[Meglamaniac 482]

assclown, I was replying to SWC's "easy way out" statement.

for focks sake, you're looking at this with blinders on.

chemo is terrible, and every single person I've ever known that has undergone chemo has suffered more than I'd wish on my enemies and they have all died within 2 years of gruesome agonizing pain!

 

I'm the assclown, LOL, and I'm seeing your statements clear as a bell.

[stop talking cheerleader 0]

You'll have to cut Big Pete some slack, Megla. He very recently revealed to us that he is not, in fact, a doctor. We're all reeling here and trying to get our bearings at the moment.

 

I don't think this got the praise it deserves

[sawilson 1]

Wow, I leave for a few hours and my BS thread turns all serious and shat..

 

So, guess I'll add my two cents without responding to individual threads.

 

I do think that dr's tend to over medicate these days. Yes, when I was going through the lowest part of my life during my drinking days I became VERY depressed, most do when thier life has become a big piece of shat. I went to my dr and told him I felt like shat and why and what did he do? He put me on anti-depressant medicine. I took it for a little over a month and felt even worse. Then I thought, "WTF - of course I'm depressed, my life is a piece of shat because I'm drinking it away, who the fock wouldn't be!" So I took myself off the medication because it didn't seem to help and saught help in other areas. In my case it was AA, and yes, I did use the help of others. Others who had been there and done that. Could relate and help me address what was going on in my life.

 

NOW, with that being said, I do think that medication DOES help some. I do think that some have a chemical imbalance for whatever reason and that medication can help that in some cases. I just don't think it should automatically be the first course of action for everyone like some dr's do, nor do I think that people should necessarily be on it for the rest of thier lives. But I do believe it does help some get some things straightened out when needed.

 

TNG - no matter what our differences are, I feel for you, I really do. I've been depressed although for different reasons than you and what worked for me, obviously won't for you because of those reasons. If the meds are helping you, I think that's GREAT. If not, then you need to look elsewhere for help, wherever that may be. Bottom line is you've recognized that something is going on with you right now that isn't quite right and are looking for help to resolve those issues, and for that I commend you.

 

Now can we just get back to regular BS people? Jeebus.....

[Jessy 0]

He put me on depressant medicine.

 

Well, that would make you depressed. Usually anti-depressants are used when people are suffering from depression.

[sawilson 1]

Well, that would make you depressed. Usually anti-depressants are used when people are suffering from depression.

My bad, sorry, that's what I meant, anti-depressant medicine.

[SigEp316 0]

 

 

So, guess I'll add my two cents

 

 

go focking figure

 

die trainwreck

[sawilson 1]

go focking figure

 

die trainwreck

I did start the focking thread you arse fock. Here's a tip for you, if you don't like my posts, don't focking read them....

[SigEp316 0]

I did start the focking thread you arse fock. Here's a tip for you, if you don't like my posts, don't focking read them....

 

 

thanks for the tip shatty arse fock

 

 

you're such a stupid ######

[jerryskids 6,780]

Wow, we've got TDZ, sanctuary, heck the entire interweb universe collapsing like a black hole on this thread.

 

Hey Pete!@#, here's a thought. I agree with you that, in general, docs can overprescribe meds and/or see them as an easy fix. My doc wanted to put me on cholesterol medicine, I said NFW until I try to reduce it with diet and exercise, which I did.

 

But we're talking about a broken brain here. That brain is telling her that she is worthless and should kill herself. How is that same brain supposed to just suck it up and pull itself out of it? It's broken.

 

[The Hood 9]

sorry I ever brought up the fact that a human mind is strong enough for the likes of reason and independant though

tom cruise and all the scientologists are quacks

 

 

 

 

 

A powerful human mind could also be used to learn some business sense.

[kutulu 1,676]

A powerful human mind could also be used to learn some business sense.

 

"Oh, snap!"

[VikesNation 0]

So, guess I'll add my two cents without responding to individual threads.

By my count, that makes roughly 1,476,229,380 cents you've added to these dumb threads. You could pretty much buy the whole internet if you would have invested all that money instead.

 

:sadbanana:

[naomi 356]

thanks for the tip shatty arse fock

you're such a stupid ######

 

Don't understand all the animosity here. I mean I can anticipate after reading some stuff Saw says that it will get ripped on by pretentious message board posters, but she never directly puts any of you down. People hate most that which they fear in themselves. That should be kept in mind, compassion>hate. This is kind of flakey, but when tragedies happen like 9/11 or Katrina happen, you don't know any of those people you might see on the news but you still feel sorry for them. "Die trainwrecks" wouldn't normally come to mind.

[SigEp316 0]

Don't understand all the animosity here. I mean I can anticipate after reading some stuff Saw says that it will get ripped on by pretentious message board posters, but she never directly puts any of you down. People hate most that which they fear in themselves. That should be kept in mind, compassion>hate. This is kind of flakey, but when tragedies happen like 9/11 or Katrina happen, you don't know any of those people you might see on the news but you still feel sorry for them. "Die trainwrecks" wouldn't normally come to mind.

 

 

good point

 

 

 

 

fock your mother

[gocolts 300]

This is BS the way some of you have been talking to TNG. You are completly wrong.

 

Now let me get this right before I begin.

 

1.Does Big Pete live in the same house as SAW???

 

2.Are they married???

 

3.How long have they known each other, I mean face to face, not emails and message boreds???

 

4.I thought SAW had small children in the house, am I wrong about that??

 

please, anyone feel free to answer, if you know the truth.

[Rusty Syringes 478]

I'll never understand why all these women come to an NFL football board full of misogynist drunks, arseholes, sex addicts, freaks and puppy molesters and expect to get some kind of meaningful validation for their various dysfunctions and fruit loopiness.

 

It's like a typical woman pining away for some unobtainable man who treats them like shat and leaves her wanting more.