MDC 7,432 Posted May 20, 2007 ORTIS SUPPORTS VICK Redskins running back Clinton Portis and left tackle Chris Samuels have spoken out in support of Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, who currently is caught up in a dog-fighting investigation. But they're not saying that Vick is innocent. Per Portis, it's no big deal if Vick is guilty. "I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not, but it's his property, it's his dog," Portis told WAVY-TV. "If that's what he wants to do, do it." As Portis spoke, Samuels started laughing, and at one point raised his eyebrows with (as we interpret it) an "oh sh-t I can't believe he's saying this" look on his face. "I think people should mind their business," Portis added. In response to the question of whether dog-fighting is prevalent in the NFL and the NBA, Portis said, "I mean it's prevalent in life. . . . I'm from Laurel, Mississippi. I know a lot of back roads that got the dog fight if you want to go see it." Um, we're not licensed to practice law in Virginia, but we don't think that the Commonwealth has formally recognized the defenses of "everybody does it" or "if it's behind closed doors, it's okay." And if we didn't know better (and, actually, we don't), we'd be inclined to wonder whether Portis has been to a few of those dog fights in Laurel, Mississippi. Or in Surry County, Virginia. And Clinton's comments provide even more reason to believe that Ray Buchanan said what Chris Landry said he said about Vick and dog fighting. The lesson here is that current and former NFL players look out for each other, no matter how ridiculous they look or sound when doing so. Need more evidence that Portis should be ignored on this point? He refers to Vick as a "positive role model." We need to know whether Clinton gave Mike this label for giving the middle finger to the home fans (including kids) or giving the STD to the ex-girlfriend. Or maybe he's referring to the water bottle thing. There are just so many positive things from which to choose. <- link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famousb 11 Posted May 20, 2007 fock Portis, if he thinks it's ok to have dog fighting... starve both him and D!ck, i mean Vick, put 'em in a cage, and the last one living can eat the corn out of my sh!t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piece of work 0 Posted May 20, 2007 no a tree hugger here but that dog fighting aint right. looks like pure pain and anyone that enjoys it must have a past that was very sick ............. god bless you all if you find pleasure in this. damn...????????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted May 20, 2007 countdown till Redskin organization forced apology in 5,4,3,2............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Some Guy 0 Posted May 20, 2007 Anybody remember Portis' score on the Wonderlic? What an IDIOT! He probably also thinks he's getting to carry the full load this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G-in O-town 0 Posted May 20, 2007 Put this in the Vick thread, but better suited here. Check out Samuels reaction too on this video. Portis your joking, right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted May 20, 2007 Focking idiot. I'm not drafting him now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted May 20, 2007 The problem with stupid people is they are not smart enough to know they are stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 20, 2007 ...besides the fact it's illegal - - "people should mind their own business" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foghorn Leghorn 0 Posted May 20, 2007 The problem with stupid people is they are not smart enough to know they are stupid. Well put. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron B 0 Posted May 20, 2007 What an idiot...ha ha... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piece of work 0 Posted May 20, 2007 ???? its better to stay silent than open your mouth and remove all doubt that you are a dumbarse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Big Head 6 Posted May 20, 2007 wow, i never realized just how stupid Portis was until i read those comments Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riddlen 1 Posted May 20, 2007 Focking idiot. I'm not drafting him now. SARCASTIC RIGHT? holy crap, that reporter is as big as samuels Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apu Nahasapeemapetilon 0 Posted May 20, 2007 Wow, Portis is even dumber than I thought. Even more reason for Betts to be the starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryChinaski 1 Posted May 20, 2007 Umm yeah let me bench my superstar running back because he condones dog fighting. Yeah right, people. Personally, I do think dog fighting is wrong. But to let that have any say on who starts on your fantasy or real football team, give me a break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canada1 0 Posted May 20, 2007 Maybe it wasn't portis... he might have been in character? Hi my name is "Dog Abuser Jerome" and dog fighting is okay! ..... What a stupid douche bag he must be..... It must not be easy going through life dumb as a fence post.... at least he can run a sweep like nobodies business... Go Betts Go !!! I hope you tear an ACL Portis !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmswim03 0 Posted May 20, 2007 Maybe it wasn't portis... he might have been in character? Hi my name is "Dog Abuser Jerome" and dog fighting is okay! ..... What a stupid douche bag he must be..... It must not be easy going through life dumb as a fence post.... at least he can run a sweep like nobodies business... Go Betts Go !!! I hope you tear an ACL Portis !!!! I like how you criticize Portis because G/d forbid he is okay with dogs getting scratched up a bit, but then you are perfectly okay with wishing a torn ACL upon another human being. Classy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 154 Posted May 20, 2007 Getting scratched up a bit? Have you ever seen two random dogs get in it. Then you add the people factor to it. Do you know what ends a dog fight? Its more than getting scratched up a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canada1 0 Posted May 20, 2007 I like how you criticize Portis because G/d forbid he is okay with dogs getting scratched up a bit, but then you are perfectly okay with wishing a torn ACL upon another human being. Classy. I never wished he would die like the dogs he says its okay to watch fight, and if you have ever seen this sort of stuff on tv undercover video, many dogs do die it is brutal.... Just a career threatening injury for that POS is good enough for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,673 Posted May 20, 2007 Someone should explain to Clinton, that dogs are living creatures that feel pain just like a human person does, and inflicting pain on a living creature for the purpose of sport is morally wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ER MAN 0 Posted May 21, 2007 I like how you criticize Portis because G/d forbid he is okay with dogs getting scratched up a bit, but then you are perfectly okay with wishing a torn ACL upon another human being. Classy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,432 Posted May 21, 2007 I like how you criticize Portis because G/d forbid he is okay with dogs getting scratched up a bit, but then you are perfectly okay with wishing a torn ACL upon another human being. Classy. I wouldn't wish a torn ACL on Portis but you're really understating it to say dogs get "scratched up a bit" from dogfighting. Usually they're malnourished, fed things like tobasco or beaten to make them mean, and the dogs typically end up maimed or killed. It is sick and cruel to take two animals that don't know what they're doing and force them to kill each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ER MAN 0 Posted May 21, 2007 I'm not really sure what Portis was thinking when he made these comments. Makes you wonder... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagles Green 34 Posted May 21, 2007 What an ass. Portis is as smart as he is durable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parkers99 0 Posted May 21, 2007 Is anyone surprised by this? Newsflash: Portis is not smart If Portis hadn't been blessed athletically, he'd be working at a carwash... the guy's just not all there. His "characters" display the creativity, wit & intelligence of a fourth grade child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melissa Stark 1 Posted May 21, 2007 And how did he ever manage to get by collge, makes you wonder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turbodog 0 Posted May 21, 2007 Laws against dog fighting are stupid. It's because you people have emotional ties to your dogs. Some people don't. You kill animals every day for your enjoyment when you order that steak or hamburger. You could easily eat soy and oat and be healthier. Why do you order beef? Because you enjoy it. They enjoy watching them fight. What's the difference? There isn't, an animal dies and a person gets something they enjoy. It's hypocracy. I agree 100% with Mr. Portis. America is a free country and you should be free to do what you wish as long as no person is hurt by it. Which in this case, obviously, no person is. I would never dream of hurting an animal in this way, and I wouldn't enjoy watching dog's fight. But that's my choice, and everyone should be allowed to make their own choices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 21, 2007 Laws against dog fighting are stupid. It's because you people have emotional ties to your dogs. Some people don't. You kill animals every day for your enjoyment when you order that steak or hamburger. You could easily eat soy and oat and be healthier. Why do you order beef? Because you enjoy it. They enjoy watching them fight. What's the difference? There isn't, an animal dies and a person gets something they enjoy. It's hypocracy. I agree 100% with Mr. Portis. America is a free country and you should be free to do what you wish as long as no person is hurt by it. Which in this case, obviously, no person is. I would never dream of hurting an animal in this way, and I wouldn't enjoy watching dog's fight. But that's my choice, and everyone should be allowed to make their own choices. I disagree completely. Apples and oranges. Eating animals vs. making them fight for our enjoyment is not a good comparison at all. "eat soy and oat"......please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turbodog 0 Posted May 21, 2007 You are forcing your morals on someone else, when their actions have no impact on you. It isn't right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 21, 2007 You are forcing your morals on someone else, when their actions have no impact on you. It isn't right. I didn't force morals on anyone. I just think your comparisons are ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted May 21, 2007 so does Clinton have a dog in this fight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turbodog 0 Posted May 21, 2007 Why? Because you dont have to see the cow get a pointed hammer to the head to get your steak? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 21, 2007 Why? Because you dont have to see the cow get a pointed hammer to the head to get your steak? Meat from animals is a source of food and life for people across the world, dogfighting is entertainment only. Again, your comparison is ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turbodog 0 Posted May 21, 2007 Meat from animals is a source of food and life for people across the world, dogfighting is entertainment only. Again, your comparison is ridiculous. Like i said, you could get nutrition from soy and wheat. You eat meat because you enjoy it. If you weren't a complete hypocrit, you would value a cow's life as much as fido's and not want it dying for your enjoyment either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 21, 2007 Like i said, you could get nutrition from soy and wheat. You eat meat because you enjoy it. If you weren't a complete hypocrit, you would value a cow's life as much as fido's and not want it dying for your enjoyment either. You're arguing just to argue. Meat is a source of life around the world....not because people enjoy it so much.....but because it's readily available. At no point in my past posts have I said I'm a major meat eater and against soy and wheat. And at no point have I ever stated I was against using animals for entertainment either. You're looking for something that's not there. I'm just stating the facts and I'll stand by it. Your attempted comparisons fail. I'm done with this now. Call me whatever you want. Have a great day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 21, 2007 Like i said, you could get nutrition from soy and wheat. You eat meat because you enjoy it. If you weren't a complete hypocrit, you would value a cow's life as much as fido's and not want it dying for your enjoyment either. Before it dies a cow is well fed, well taken care of and so on. They are not beaten, malnourished, fed a bunch of crap...and so on. As others have said, your comparison is a bit off base. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites