3rd Round Commentary

[Jetdoc 20]

No kickers, please.

[ShaneFalco 0]

Cedric Benson is the SOD this year IMO, and I have a feeling that he will creep up rankings as we near the season. I considered taking him with my 2nd pick, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I don't understand why so many people are down on him. Thomas Jones is gone, the Bears have a solid o-line and a run-first offensive philosophy. Plus, Grossman was respectable enough to keep defenses from stacking the box. Benson could easily end up top 10, and he will be on most of my teams in real leagues.

[Fumbleweed 545]

Cedric Benson is the SOD this year IMO, and I have a feeling that he will creep up rankings as we near the season. I considered taking him with my 2nd pick, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I don't understand why so many people are down on him. Thomas Jones is gone, the Bears have a solid o-line and a run-first offensive philosophy. Plus, Grossman was respectable enough to keep defenses from stacking the box. Benson could easily end up top 10, and he will be on most of my teams in real leagues.

 

Yeah, I was really torn between him and Marvin Harrison. Was hoping I could somehow get both......

[robb 81]

Benson would have been my choice. I believe that by August, he will be mid to early second rounder. Grossman only enhances his value on this team!!

[Vikings4ever 550]

LT2

Cedric Benson

Tory Holt

 

 

Liking my start.

[ShaneFalco 0]

LT2

Cedric Benson

Tory Holt

Liking my start.

 

After I saw the turn I thought to myself: "V4E just won this mock"

[FantasyKing 4]

After I saw the turn I thought to myself: "V4E just won this mock"

 

Any 2 picks in the 2nd-3rd round to go with LT will make a team look unbeatable. Drafting from the #1 hole is so easy, even V4E can't screw it up. Just kiddin man - nice start.

[Miller_Time_21 0]

LT2

Cedric Benson

Tory Holt

Liking my start.

Agree with Falco, don't think you can have a better start!

 

Fumble, you bastard!!!!!!

 

Well i didn't think Palmer woudl go that high in this mock. Figured he would be a safe bet for me at the end of the 3rd to team up with ocho. Now that I am done pissing and moaning about not getting him, I love the pick. Homer glasses aside, not sure what there is to not like about him. Great offense, with many weapons. Great arm, and no rehab this year. I'm seeing 30 TD's + from him this season.

[remote controller 143]

LT2

Cedric Benson

Tory Holt

Liking my start.

We could find this post in the archives yearly.

 

 

Super

 

Seriously though, I'm not a Benson fan and grossmen does nothing to open up the middle. (and Benson hasn't proven himself to be anything like Thomas Jones yet)

 

Holt was my #3 Wideout and LT the #1 back, so it does look good. Hell, any team with LT would look damn good.

[Vikings4ever 550]

Any 2 picks in the 2nd-3rd round to go with LT will make a team look unbeatable. Drafting from the #1 hole is so easy, even V4E can't screw it up. Just kiddin man - nice start.

It looks like if a Jones/Benson caliber RB falls to the 2.12/3.01 turn, the first pick has a huge advantage.

 

I'm interested to see which RBs fall to the 4.12/5.01 turn to see what a LT2/WR/WR start would yield.

[Miller_Time_21 0]

Got to say, I'm liking the value of these picks here in the 3rd, like the Fitz pick as well. I have a very good feelign that all this "great value" is going to be sucked up by the time I pick in the 3rd, lol.

[Jetdoc 20]

Fumble has an incredibly solid team to start.

 

Palmer

LJohnson

Harrison

 

Now, if he can round out his RB's and WR's with decent value picks, I think he'd be the top contender.

[remote controller 143]

Benson would have been my choice. I believe that by August, he will be mid to early second rounder. Grossman only enhances his value on this team!!

Why??? For the stacked 8 in the box that he assures?

 

This is going better than I expected, as I never get a wideout (Fitz) of this caliber in the 3rd. I am glad to have landed three players in my top 20 thus far.

 

Fumble has an incredibly solid team to start.

 

Palmer

LJohnson

Harrison

 

Now, if he can round out his RB's and WR's with decent value picks, I think he'd be the top contender.

 

That will be the trick. It can be done if you nail the breakout rookie or this season's Gore. It is never a problem rounding out the Wr's. I really thought he would go TE.

[ShaneFalco 0]

This might sound crazy, but I firmly believe ROY will be a top 5 WR this year. Here's why:

 

1. Last year he had 1300 and 7 and has been improving each year in the league.

2. 2nd year in the Martz offense, both he and the QB are more comfortable with the system.

3. Upgrades to the O-line and progression of younger players (i.e. Jonathan Scott).

4. The new rookie WR. He won't take away from Roy like most people think. Remember, the #2 last year caught 100 balls. Roy needs someone to take away the double coverage. Last year teams saw that Roy was the only real weapon and doubled him on almost EVERY down.

5. If you've ever watched a Lions game (god help you), you'd see that Roy is one of those "special" players. He routinely makes acrobatic catches and has the height/jumping ability to come down with it in the end zone.

 

Shaun Alexander

Reggie Bush

Roy Williams

 

Decent start, but the middle rounds make a team...

[Fumbleweed 545]

Why??? For the stacked 8 in the box that he assures?

 

This is going better than I expected, as I never get a wideout (Fitz) of this caliber in the 3rd. I am glad to have landed three players in my top 20 thus far.

That will be the trick. It can be done if you nail the breakout rookie or this season's Gore. It is never a problem rounding out the Wr's. I really thought he would go TE.

 

I thought TE is not mandatory, correct?? If so, no TE is worth picking this early, IMO.

[Vikings4ever 550]

I thought TE is not mandatory, correct?? If so, no TE is worth picking this early, IMO.

Starting positions are: 1 QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's/TE's. No best ball - standard lineup submission.

 

TE's are NOT mandatory.

[remote controller 143]

I thought TE is not mandatory, correct?? If so, no TE is worth picking this early, IMO.

You are right. I think I drafted like three of them last year.

[Fumbleweed 545]

After I saw the turn I thought to myself: "V4E just won this mock"

 

Obviously, in a mock, there is no winner until the season plays itself out. That being said, there are two ways to measure a mock:

 

1. Who has the best TEAM at the end of the mock? (V4E is going to be hard to beat using this criteria)

 

OR

 

2. Who drafted the best given their position in the draft itself?

 

If you go by #2, the mock "winner" might not have the team you like the best, but it is best team possible from the position a person was placed in.

[ShaneFalco 0]

Obviously, in a mock, there is no winner until the season plays itself out. That being said, there are two ways to measure a mock:

 

1. Who has the best TEAM at the end of the mock? (V4E is going to be hard to beat using this criteria)

 

OR

 

2. Who drafted the best given their position in the draft itself?

 

If you go by #2, the mock "winner" might not have the team you like the best, but it is best team possible from the position a person was placed in.

 

I agree completely. The "winning" comment was in jest because I really like his team so far. As I mentioned before, the first 3 picks don't make a winning team, often finds in the middle and later rounds make a championship team. Yes, that means you V4E, can still screw it up.

 

The top 2 spots usually look very good after 3 rounds.

[Fumbleweed 545]

I'm not sure that team can get too screwed up. I can't imagine a better start than Tomlinson, Holt, & Benson.

 

Unless, it was Manning, Manning, and Manning.

 

Where did Clash go?

[Jetdoc 20]

Grabbing a quick lunch - be back in 15 minutes or so.

[Fumbleweed 545]

Grabbing a quick lunch - be back in 15 minutes or so.

 

Maybe Clash will be done contemplating the cosmos by then...........

[Clash of the Titans 1]

OUCH......i he's the last of ANY of the backs in his tier i like....i would have pulled the trigger on gates until i realized this was a non te mandatory draft........this early draft helps me immensely each year because i cam immediately see what i should have done with earlier picks.......im still doing my draft board and rankings and would have went addai/benson/WR if i had to do it over again...i could have probably waited on TO and had a chance for him at 3.7....didn't know since it's so early how folks would value him.....i have him @2 behind s smith right now

 

having said that i still think deuce finishes in the top 20 and could be the steal of the draft if bush gets hurt.....with horn gone and meachem not impressing so far i think bush will be used more in the passing game and deuce will get a lot of carries regardless.......he should still get 1000/10...making him a solid rb2...i just don't like taking rbs in rbbc early on.........but duece is going to get most of the goal line tds because of the threat of bush and the lionshare of the carries

 

but so far not a team i like very much

[Miller_Time_21 0]

Deuce Mac is a nice pick here Coot, I was hoping to get him at the end of the round.

[Vikings4ever 550]

Nice value in Boldin.

[NAn 39]

aside froma couple of RBs (Benson solid pick here, though I'm not as high on him as some of you sound) the late 2nd rnd-3rd rnd WR run is in full swing.

 

Surprised a bit by Palmer pick, but it is fumble and we know how he likes to have his QB situation squared away and Palmer is a solid pick if you're going to go QB there.

 

The next few picks will be interesting as if a couple of players fall I may have to switch things up a bit.

[robb 81]

I really like my third pick in the Cadillac. He gives me 2 starting running backs and neither one are really RBBC. May share a little time, but relatively the "main man". After this pick, I saw nothing but RBBC and sharing time for all the next running backs! Just my opinion tho.

 

Carry on and I'll see you all for pick #4!!

[remote controller 143]

I really like my third pick in the Cadillac. He gives me 2 starting running backs and neither one are really RBBC. May share a little time, but relatively the "main man". After this pick, I saw nothing but RBBC and sharing time for all the next running backs! Just my opinion tho.

 

Carry on and I'll see you all for pick #4!!

Caddy was a very nice pick here. Also thought Boldin was a nice selection.

[Jetdoc 20]

Personally, I don't like the Cadillac pick here. Caddy showed some serious problems last year, and I really don't see the improvements in TB that will fix their glaring problems on offense.

 

Don't get me wrong - I think many people will draft him in the mid-third round, thinking that he's in a non-RBBC situation, so he represents good value. Unfortunately (and maybe I'm shell shocked because I had him last year), I think he will be outproduced by most of the RBBC situations.

 

I'd say that 1,000 yards and 8 TD's is his CEILING for 2007. That's not what I normally demand out of a third-round pick.

 

...and robb, to let you know, the value of this draft is to place harsh criticism on picks...not on the drafter himself. I would expect anyone else to be just as critical of my picks.

[FantasyKing 4]

Caddy is definitely going to make or break many teams this year - at this point, after the 2 seasons he had, it's just a crapshoot how he's going to be this year.

[RLLD 4,215]

The Wayne selection was nice, great value there.

 

Not a big fan of Deuce for the coming season, would have waited for him to fall to the 4th, after I had two reliable RB's, before taking him.

[Fumbleweed 545]

reliable RB's

 

That's the problem. There weren't any left........

[Da Bomb 0]

my 3rd round thoughts so far...

 

the RBs (benson, deuce, caddy) - all decent value by where they ought to go, and all good reasons why i took two good starters while i could count on them. ive never liked benson or caddy and dont see any reason to suddenly think either of them will miraculously stay healthy or start catching passes or be anything too valuable. i like deuce enough, but a 3rd round pick is pretty high for a rbbc situation when theyre bound to work bush more into the mix this year. i could maybe live with him as a 2nd rb if he was a 4th or 5th rounder, but 3rd seems quite high for a guy with that as his description.

 

the WRs (wayne, fitz, roy, boldin) - wayne is a great pick. absolutely. fitz is solid value there. the cardinal WRs scare me a little this year so i'll probably stay away. neither of them is consistently healthy, and even if both are, im not sure theres enough to go around with a more run focused game this year in arizona. i think fitz is clearly the better of the two because he is the bigger TD threat normally, so i like him where you got him. boldin feels more like a 4th rounder this year. i wouldve considered him at 4.4, and might have passed. roy is a solid pick. im still waiting on him for a full year campaign, and i cant tell yet how he'll react to having a real stud WR opposite him. i could almost envision that as a randy moss rookie year scenario where he could blow up and that offense could explode (thats how good calvin is), but since its the lions, it seems more likely that he'll either implode or that the hot hand wr of the week will make him a very unreliable wr1. not a bad pick, just not a guy i will want too much to do with. then again, if my WR was gone here, i wouldve been probably picking between roy and one other WR.

 

palmer - oh fumble, what is there to say? i like palmer. hes the #2 qb on my board i think. i just dont think hes worth a pick that high. esp in this mock. i think you couldve gotten a comprable qb at your next pick 2 rounds away. i just dont buy into qbs how you do. not much more to say there.

 

javon walker - this was my pick. i really think walker is in for a big year, and i have him top 5. he was the person i had targetted at this pick going into the mock. i saw a handful of bronco games down the stretch last year. i expect a huge year from denver, and i think cutler has a great rapport already with walker. every game theyd throw it up to him 2 or 3 times, and i think hes the best deep threat in the league right now. hes also 2 years back from that acl injury, so fully healthy. hes not a yards monster, but i think 12-1300 yards is a good expectation, and i will expect him to be top 3 in TDs this year with 12-15 of them. very very high on this guy. i believe hes my #4 WR right now.

[Fumbleweed 545]

I think Walker will do well, too......if he has the whole Darrent Williams tragedy under control. After all, Williams died in Walker's arms. Not saying he won't or can't recover from that....I just think that's a difficult thing for anybody to deal with.

 

 

palmer - oh fumble, what is there to say? i like palmer. hes the #2 qb on my board i think. i just dont think hes worth a pick that high. esp in this mock. i think you couldve gotten a comprable qb at your next pick 2 rounds away. i just dont buy into qbs how you do. not much more to say there.

 

 

It's cool.

 

Palmer was the top guy on my board. I have him as the #23 player overall. I was hoping that Benson, Jones, even Wayne would fall to me there.....none did. I thought there was a definite drop-off at RB and WR after Benson and Wayne, so it became an easy pick for me.

 

Jet thinks a lot like me when it comes to QBs....so I'm not on an island here. We'll see how it all shakes out. By "comparable" value, I would assume you mean one of about 3 or 4 QBs who are sitting there at the moment. We'll see if any would have made it around to me..........

[FantasyKing 4]

I may need to send an email, if I dont see Miller show up in the next few minutes - any takers?

[NAn 39]

Curious to hear thoughts on Driver pick.

 

To me he's like the Cumar of WRs...not flashy, but just gets it done: anybody surprised he's finished 5th, 13th, 10th past 3 years (IBL scoring)?

 

There's another WR I considered here, we'll see where he falls...bet he goes to Miller/King.

[Da Bomb 0]

FK, i can take an email list if you need me to.

[NAn 39]

I may need to send an email, if I dont see Miller show up in the next few minutes - any takers?

 

can send here King: tonysannicolas@yahoo.com

 

just let me know if you do send a list.

[Da Bomb 0]

fumble - im curious to hear your logic play out for the harrison pick at 2.10 then. seems as though with your 2.10/3.3 picks, you wouldve really liked to get two of harrison, wayne, holt (you didnt mention him, but i assume?), benson, t jones. well there were only 5 picks counting yours before 3.3, so that meant that all 5 had to go -- and they did. but why take the WR at 2.10 then, esp the one who probably will get drafted after holt in most drafts and after wayne in at least half? i have to think you couldve taken your pick of benson or jones at 2.10 and figured that all 3 WRs you like wouldnt go before 3.3. no ones going to draft both indy WRs, and i have a hard time thinking someone would draft one of them with holt and leave that RB2 spot wide open until the end of the 4th with all the rbbc this year. it was certainly possible, but then you take palmer as you did, but at least you have your two RBs locked up. instead now it strikes me that you will be scrambling for both RB2 and WR2 to find something palpable there. you couldve almost certainly had lj, benson/jones, and harrison/wayne imo. and with this mock, QBs always go far later than they ought to. see manning compared to his normal idp. i have 4 QBs all pretty much tied in my top tier, i think. i would almost guarantee that 1 or 2 of those 4 are still there at your pick in the 4th. we'll see. our strategies are so different, every year we seem to get back to this point lol.

 

nan/driver - good pick. nothing flashy, just gets the job done every year. wouldve almost certainly taken him at 4.4 if he was still there, but i knew he wouldnt be with you and miller in between. i think i know the other WR you are talking about as well, and i agree that he'll be gone before you, or at least certainly before me lol.

[Jetdoc 20]

Sorry - misunderstood what you typed, Fantasy King.

 

You can always send it to me if you want...steven.dougherty@elpaso.com.