Boz/BoFan 0 Posted July 7, 2007 "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." Omar Ahmad, Chairman Emeritus, Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). Here's more from the 'objective' CAIR organization : "I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future. But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education." --Ibrahim Hooper, Communications Director, CAIR These are the least radical among us. How do you feel about the other 5 million here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,237 Posted July 7, 2007 Religion is poison, the opiate of the masses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted July 7, 2007 "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." Omar Ahmad, Chairman Emeritus, Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). Here's more from the 'objective' CAIR organization : "I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future. But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education." --Ibrahim Hooper, Communications Director, CAIR These are the least radical among us. How do you feel about the other 5 million here? Why is this garbage talk not on the front page of every newspaper and the lead story on the news? Un-focking-real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
congressmanreality 1 Posted July 7, 2007 Why is this garbage talk not on the front page of every newspaper and the lead story on the news? Un-focking-real. probably because it shoots down the whole farcical idea that democracy will show these people the light. these fockers live in the greatest democracy in the world and still want to live under repressive sharia law. if that's the case, how the fock is Iraq gonna turn out? the answer to this obvious question is clear, and the powers that be don't want this discussion to take place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garrowl 0 Posted July 8, 2007 probably because it shoots down the whole farcical idea that democracy will show these people the light. these fockers live in the greatest democracy in the world and still want to live under repressive sharia law. if that's the case, how the fock is Iraq gonna turn out? the answer to this obvious question is clear, and the powers that be don't want this discussion to take place. perfect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 622 Posted July 8, 2007 CAIR - Council of Angry Islamic Radicals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravens 03 0 Posted July 8, 2007 "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." Omar Ahmad, Chairman Emeritus, Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). Here's more from the 'objective' CAIR organization : "I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future. But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education." --Ibrahim Hooper, Communications Director, CAIR These are the least radical among us. How do you feel about the other 5 million here? Americans are too busy buying iphones to give a shait about the destrcution from within. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyber Gandalf 0 Posted July 8, 2007 CAIR - Council of Angry Islamic Radicals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 8, 2007 CAIR - Council of Angry Islamic Radicals Bingo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyber Gandalf 0 Posted July 8, 2007 Bingo If any Muslims read this board...I hope they realize your bigotry and intolerance doesn't extend to us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 8, 2007 If any Muslims read this board...I hope they realize your bigotry and intolerance doesn't extend to us. I thought you claim to have me on "ignore all posts"? Lie much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted July 8, 2007 Americans are too busy buying iphones to give a shait about the destrcution from within. Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted July 9, 2007 CAIR - Council of Angry Islamic Radicals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted July 9, 2007 How did you get 15 emoticons in your post??? I can never get more than five. I even have to modify my message typing this sentance since I can't even quote you without reducing the number of emoticons. Anyways, although I think nearly all religions are stoopid, they aren't equally stoopid. Islam is the huge flashing neon Las Vegas Casino STOOPID of religions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted July 9, 2007 probably because it shoots down the whole farcical idea that democracy will show these people the light. these fockers live in the greatest democracy in the world and still want to live under repressive sharia law. if that's the case, how the fock is Iraq gonna turn out? the answer to this obvious question is clear, and the powers that be don't want this discussion to take place. dolt! How did you get 15 emoticons in your post??? I can never get more than five. I even have to modify my message typing this sentance since I can't even quote you without reducing the number of emoticons. Anyways, although I think nearly all religions are stoopid, they aren't equally stoopid. Islam is the huge flashing neon Las Vegas Casino STOOPID of religions. I'm a moderator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted July 9, 2007 While it would not suprise me in the least that these fockers said that, link please? I'd like to read the entire article for myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted July 9, 2007 While it would not suprise me in the least that these fockers said that, link please? I'd like to read the entire article for myself. Lifted straight from Sean Hannity: http://www.hannity.com/forum/showthread.ph...68&t=261173 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted July 9, 2007 How did you get 15 emoticons in your post??? I can never get more than five. I even have to modify my message typing this sentance since I can't even quote you without reducing the number of emoticons. Anyways, although I think nearly all religions are stoopid, they aren't equally stoopid. Islam is the huge flashing neon Las Vegas Casino STOOPID of religions. Get the 5, then post again before anyone else posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpbuckeye 3 Posted July 9, 2007 Lifted straight from Sean Hannity: http://www.hannity.com/forum/showthread.ph...68&t=261173 another example of someone who will whine about the right but frequents all of the rights websites to keep tabs on them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted July 9, 2007 There are hundreds and thousands of Christian preachers and religious leaders that seek to impose Christian values on American citizens via laws. What's the difference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted July 9, 2007 another example of someone who will whine about the right but frequents all of the rights websites to keep tabs on them. First of all, I did a search on that quote and it tokk me dorectly to Hannity's site. On the second site, I found out that the Chairman Emeritus who was cited in that first quote retired in 1994. If it looks like garbage and smells like garbage, chances are it's garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted July 9, 2007 Lifted straight from Sean Hannity: http://www.hannity.com/forum/showthread.ph...68&t=261173 Um... ...that's not even an article on the Hannity site, but rather from message board posts...and the people posting this stuff don't bother to provide a link to where these statement were made. Like I said, it wouldn't suprise me one bit if these people really did say and believe those things, but as sources go, this is about as flimsy as you can get. Does anyone have an actual link to a story where these quotes were made? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted July 9, 2007 Um... ...that's not even an article on the Hannity site, but rather from message board posts...and the people posting this stuff don't bother to provide a link to where these statement were made. Like I said, it wouldn't suprise me one bit if these people really did say and believe those things, but as sources go, this is about as flimsy as you can get. Does anyone have an actual link to a story where these quotes were made? I don't doubt they made these comments either, but I'd sure like to know context. The person who started this thread obviously doesn't know what 'emeritus' means, because the guy attributed to that first quote retired in 1994, so he clearly is not the Chairman of CAIR, like the title would have you believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isotopes 1 Posted July 9, 2007 There are hundreds and thousands of Christian preachers and religious leaders that seek to impose Christian values on American citizens via laws. What's the difference? There is no difference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpbuckeye 3 Posted July 9, 2007 There is no difference So Christian values include killing everyone who is not Christian? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted July 9, 2007 So Christian values include killing everyone who is not Christian? I might get pwned on this one but.... Link to where Islam's values include "killing everyone who is not Muslim"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 9, 2007 There are hundreds and thousands of Christian preachers and religious leaders that seek to impose Christian values on American citizens via laws. What's the difference? The Founding Fathers based the Constitution on Christian principles. hth First of all, I did a search on that quote and it tokk me dorectly to Hannity's site. On the second site, I found out that the Chairman Emeritus who was cited in that first quote retired in 1994. If it looks like garbage and smells like garbage, chances are it's garbage. Congrats Paully, ya got you a Double Whammy!! Slammed Hannity and defended radical islamists all in one post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted July 9, 2007 The Founding Fathers based the Constitution on Christian principles. So what? They also made the Constitution a "living document" so that changes could be made as need be. If the founders wanted to ensure Christianity as the overwhelming force in the document, they might have left that part out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 9, 2007 So what? They also made the Constitution a "living document" so that changes could be made as need be. If the founders wanted to ensure Christianity as the overwhelming force in the document, they might have left that part out. Our country wasn't founded on anything remotely related to Islam, that's what. You are correct, they provided an Amendment process to update the Constitution. Good luck getting your "Islam is now the only law of the land" Amendment passed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted July 9, 2007 Good luck getting your "Islam is now the only law of the land" Amendment passed. I didn't say anything about it passing. I was merely pointing out the similarity between the Christian agenda and the Muslim agenda. The only difference is popularity. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted July 9, 2007 Toro's right.... I would even take it a step further, because, to me, Christianity=Islam=Judaism They all posit essentially the same creation myth and have an attendant primitive belief system that is essentially mind control meant to keep peasants afraid and behaved. Nowadays, it's just a matter of who uses the media more effectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted July 9, 2007 Toro's right.... I would even take it a step further, because, to me, Christianity=Islam=Judaism They all posit essentially the same creation myth and have an attendant primitive belief system that is essentially mind control meant to keep peasants afraid and behaved. Nowadays, it's just a matter of who uses the media more effectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted July 9, 2007 Toro's right.... I would even take it a step further, because, to me, Christianity=Islam=Judaism They all posit essentially the same creation myth and have an attendant primitive belief system that is essentially mind control meant to keep peasants afraid and behaved. Nowadays, it's just a matter of who uses the media more effectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted July 9, 2007 Toro's right.... I would even take it a step further, because, to me, Christianity=Islam=Judaism They all posit essentially the same creation myth and have an attendant primitive belief system that is essentially mind control meant to keep peasants afraid and behaved. Nowadays, it's just a matter of who uses the media more effectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted July 9, 2007 Toro's right.... I would even take it a step further, because, to me, Christianity=Islam=Judaism They all posit essentially the same creation myth and have an attendant primitive belief system that is essentially mind control meant to keep peasants afraid and behaved. Nowadays, it's just a matter of who uses the media more effectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted July 9, 2007 Toro's right.... I would even take it a step further, because, to me, Christianity=Islam=Judaism They all posit essentially the same creation myth and have an attendant primitive belief system that is essentially mind control meant to keep peasants afraid and behaved. Nowadays, it's just a matter of who uses the media more effectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted July 9, 2007 Toro's right.... I would even take it a step further, because, to me, Christianity=Islam=Judaism They all posit essentially the same creation myth and have an attendant primitive belief system that is essentially mind control meant to keep peasants afraid and behaved. Nowadays, it's just a matter of who uses the media more effectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted July 9, 2007 Toro's right.... I would even take it a step further, because, to me, Christianity=Islam=Judaism They all posit essentially the same creation myth and have an attendant primitive belief system that is essentially mind control meant to keep peasants afraid and behaved. Nowadays, it's just a matter of who uses the media more effectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Concrete Charlie 0 Posted July 19, 2007 I'm not Christian in the usual sense but it seems to me there is a tremendous difference between Islamic dogma and Christian dogma. Christianity, and Catholicism in particular, went thru its violent spell in the middle ages when political leaders were at the beck and call of the Vatican. The Reformation, and the advent of the printing press, spurred dramatic changes in the Catholic church after which the political involvement of the church was less, shall we say, obvious. Its still there, I admit, but much less blatant, and the violent aspect of the Church is all but ended. Islam is in its own adolesence right now, like the Catholic church of 1500, being heavily involved in the political realm, using extremely harsh measures against non-compliance, spreading death and destruction. Their thirst for violence is second to no one's. Its a dangerous religion in a way that modern Christianity can't hold a candle to. The fundamentalist movement in Islam is a global threat and the man quoted in the opening of this thread is just one example of why it can't be left to itself any longer, to grow ever more dangerous to the rest of the people of the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites