McNabb says black QBs criticized more than white QBs

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

How about this. I won't make sweeping generalizations as soon as they are not warrented. And fock you I will tell anyone I want about my experiences of how the black man whines and plays the race card as often as they can when things go wrong.

 

easy dude. you were the one that didn't want to start an

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

I criticized Randall Cunningham, Kordell Stewart, Charlie Batch, Michael Bishop, Rodney Peete, and Andre Ware much much more then Steve Young, Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, and Peyton Manning. Does that make me racist?

 

What if I criticized Steve Young more then Tom Brady? Does that mean I hate Mormons?

 

My response should show my disdain for McNabb's comments.

 

He's a great QB, I don't care what his skin color is, the only thing I don't like is comments like this when tries to classify criticisms as racism.

 

It's pathetic.

[kilroy69 1,251]

easy dude. you were the one that didn't want to start an

And you are the one that is getting Pissey when I say something that you don't agree with. Even though its a known fact that blacks play the race card whenever something does not go their way. Its ALWAYS discrimination because thats what has been ingrained into them. It is never the fact that they are not good at something or they deserve the criticism for the way they play/act/work.

[ssharpe12 0]

Damn good thing Grossman, Harrington, losman, Boller, Elisha, and that guy on the cover of Madden this year arn't black...........

 

 

 

Wait,..........

 

 

The guy on the cover of Madden IS black...... and he's not very good yet??????...................

 

 

Madden '09................ Cover.................... Carson palmer, payton manning, or tom Brady.

 

 

I don't believe either of these guys have been on the cover, but are a sh1t load better then Young.

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

I heard that Leftwich was complaining about the same thing in Jacksonville. He felt that as an African American QB he would have to continually look over his shoulder because they would try to replace him with the backup any chance they got.

 

Who is the worst black QB in the league? McNabb, McNair, Culpepper, Tavaris Jackson, David Garrard, Byron Leftwich? They all suck this year actually.

 

Someone post that poll!!! I bet it gets huge response. I am going to.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

And you are the one that is getting Pissey when I say something that you don't agree with. Even though its a known fact that blacks play the race card whenever something does not go their way. Its ALWAYS discrimination because thats what has been ingrained into them. It is never the fact that they are not good at something or they deserve the criticism for the way they play/act/work.

 

listen, i don't disagree with you in this case with McNabb. the fact that race was brought into the discussion and mcnabb willingly followed that line is disgusting. if donny was a man he would have blown that question off instantly, but he didn't. he's an idiot.

 

i'm not getting pissy about it, i just pointed out that you made a generalization. i wouldn't want someone assuming things about me based on my race, culture, or religion and bet others wouldn't either. it's not fair.

[ssharpe12 0]

I heard that Leftwich was complaining about the same thing in Jacksonville. He felt that as an African American QB he would have to continually look over his shoulder because they would try to replace him with the backup any chance they got.

 

Who is the worst black QB in the league? McNabb, McNair, Culpepper, Tavaris Jackson, David Garrard, Byron Leftwich? They all suck this year actually.

 

Someone post that poll!!! I bet it gets huge response. I am going to.

 

 

Leftwich's back up has been Garrrard for as long as I can remember. Maybe he was muslim or jewish or something.

 

 

bottom line.. leftwich needed to be looking over his shoulder. He sucked.

 

and the ironic thing is..... He'll likely replace harrington... The whitest guy in the league.

[kilroy69 1,251]

I heard that Leftwich was complaining about the same thing in Jacksonville. He felt that as an African American QB he would have to continually look over his shoulder because they would try to replace him.

And they replaced him with what? what was it? How do you say it? Umm...oh yea another black man.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

The guy on the cover of Madden IS black...... and he's not very good yet??????...................

Madden '09................ Cover.................... Carson palmer, payton manning, or tom Brady.

I don't believe either of these guys have been on the cover, but are a sh1t load better then Young.

 

you're obviously over your head at this point b/c you know very little about marketing.

[ssharpe12 0]

you're obviously over your head at this point b/c you know very little about marketing.

 

 

Ahhhh , White people arn't as marketable????

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Ahhhh , White people arn't as marketable????

 

marketing 101

 

urban lifestyle = $$$$$$$$$$

[rallo 136]

hey guys give mcnafro a break... i mean he is going through a rough time... obviously if you saw his shaved head last night you'd realize that he finally had to let the 'balding afro' go... he's vulnerable

[kilroy69 1,251]

hey guys give mcnafro a break... i mean he is going through a rough time... obviously if you saw his shaved head last night you'd realize that he finally had to let the 'balding afro' go... he's vulnerable

LOL he reminded me of something you would see in a matrix movie.

[rallo 136]

LOL he reminded me of something you would see in a matrix movie.

 

'the red pill... or the blue pill'

[kilroy69 1,251]

'the red pill... or the blue pill'

It depends. Which one will make me a real qb and which one will get me the hell out of philly?

[ssharpe12 0]

marketing 101

 

urban lifestyle = $$$$$$$$$$

 

 

Sounds racist to me.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Sounds racist to me.

 

hell yeah it's racist. it's all about the almighty green.

 

this is america dude. it's capitalism at it's finest.

[hines86rules 0]

'the red pill... or the blue pill'

The red pill gets far too much criticism

[NAn 39]

Even though its a known fact that blacks play the race card whenever something does not go their way.

 

Wow...Fact? From the same book of facts that say 'holocaust was a hoax'?

 

And all blacks?

 

Yeah, no generalization there...next thing you'll say is all whites are rich and live in mansions and all asians are great at math.

 

Done with that.

 

Re: Mcnabb:

I understand/seen/victim of discrimination, but in this instance not sure where Mcnabb is coming from.

 

1. I don't see black QBs as being criticized more than white QBs...just QB's in Philly who aren't winning and/or doing well.

Philly fans have rep for being 'intense'...like to hear if any homers think otherwise, but they don't care your race/sexual orientation/if you have boils on your face: win and your revered, lose and your chastised.

 

2. Yes, he's done well statistically througout his career and been successful regular season and up thru championship games...but, like was knock on Manning before last year despite what Mcnabb says...Donovan's never won the Super Bowl.

That was asterick on Elway till he did it and Marino who never did it (IMO these 2 were great QBs regardless of not winning SB, but there are/were many others who still saw it as a knock).

 

3. Palmer hasn't been in position to get 'knocked'...he has great numbers but they haven't done much as team to be an elite overall team. If/when Bengals do and if they don't win, then folks will knock Palmer.

 

4. Brees is being knocked right now...not just by us FFers, but this team made championship game...this was suppose to be the season they were to make it back and possibly win it. Saints are 0-2, struggling offensively and folks ARE knocking Brees.

[Mackgee 0]

My question is this where are all the diehard Eagle fans and I don't need to name them, who should defend the QB of their beloved loser team. Where ya at Ghostofmeanmachine99, Newbiejr, Unkeyherb, Eagles Green, Tarheel Boy, MDC, Birdbrain3x, Sho Funaki, etc. You guys are punks your QB is a whiney ######. Come out your hole and defend him. Nowhere to be found. MI focking A

[Phurfur 70]

My question is this where are all the diehard Eagle fans and I don't need to name them, who should defend the QB of their beloved loser team. Where ya at Ghostofmeanmachine99, Newbiejr, Unkeyherb, Eagles Green, Tarheel Boy, MDC, Birdbrain3x, Sho Funaki, etc. You guys are punks your QB is a whiney ######. Come out your hole and defend him. Nowhere to be found. MI focking A

 

 

Why should Eagle fans have to defend a dumb statement like that.

[DaBeerz 88]

I dunno, maybe they feel that expectations are higher for a black QB? I think this is just frustration on McNabb's part showing through.

 

I like McNabb, you have to respect what he has done for that team. I personally think he is a class act and the league could use more guys like him. Look at what he has had to work with on that team for WR. Why do they never sign him a replacement after Owens left? Why do they not draft a top WR? Or trade for free agents? Imagine if McNabb had a top notch WR to work with...why the Eagles made the Superbowl the year they had TO, and those two weren't even on speaking terms.

 

Granted, white QB's definately get their share of criticism. Brees in SD, Grossman, Bledsoe, Kitna, Warner, Bulger, Carr, Eli Manning have all had to endure that type of harsh analysis on every botched play.

[A Dido Brother 0]

Race threads are fun!

 

[surferskin 30]

Why should Eagle fans have to defend a dumb statement like that.

because they suck at life.

[Mackgee 0]

Why should Eagle fans have to defend a dumb statement like that.

 

Not the statement the Boo Boy

[wiffleball 4,790]

Gee, I wonder what excuse Grossman, Eli, Carr, Plummer, Green, - you focking name it - can whip out for all the crap THEY took.

 

Oh yeah, they're mediocre. Just like McNabb.

 

McNabb couldn't play 16 games in a row if he was playing yahtzee. He's been blaming his recievers as long as I can remember for every one of his botched passes. They've gone through FOUR total sets of recievers as far as I can recall and it's always been their fault. Uh, DMac? Even the BEST receivers ain't gonna catch chit that's consistently thrown at the focking ANKLES! Ever wonder why it is every one of his replacement QB's (since the fairy can't play 16 games to save his life) come in and look like world beaters? EVERY SINGLE YEAR? Huh, what's THEIR excuse? The white players on the other team not playing as hard against them?

 

The guy's been overrated for a long damn time. Trying to say that " 'They' don't WANT Black QB's" is a little focking hard to defend seeing as Vince Young and JaMarcus Russell were making Tom Brady money before they ever took a F'ing snap.

 

The good news is, McNabb will pull his vulva or strain his mangina by week nine and we won't have to hear from him again this year...

[JT 137]

Wow - way to project something that's 100% not true. McNabb is a QB that I've benefitted from and believed in for years. I don't "hate" him in the slightest. I used to respect him more than I do after he made these idiotic comments, and last I checked it's my right to have that opinion based on what I saw as a pathetic excuse instead of owning up to his own suckiness.

 

You then accuse me off-handidly of being a racist? That's funny - I was pointing out how McNabb is a racist with these comments - "isn't it funny" how when a BLACK QB comes out and whines about how he's criticized for being a BLACK QB, and that even when he's playing horribly that no one can call him on the idiocy of that RACIST statement? He's both accusing everyone of being racist and as I previously stated making a pre-emptive strike so that any time anyone criticizes him now, some dolt like you steps up and calls his critics "racist".

 

Way to be "that guy" - McNabb suckered you perfectly.

As for this bit that you conveniently went back and edited out:

You are so far off base it's sickening. You make this statement as though you know me or what I'm about? did you know that a black guy married my 1st cousin, and that we vacation together every year and that I'm his child's godfather? No - I bet you didn't. Way to flap your trap and call one of the most racially tollerant people you will ever meet a racist. Yeah, I'm sadly pathetic because I fear and resent the big scary black man - that's why I paid for my godchild's trip to Disneyland last year you focking moron.

 

What's "sadly pathetic" is a person who makes a snap judgement about a person and calls them out for being a racist because they're critical of a QB who came out and basically accussed the whole world of racism because he can't handle being criticized for his poor on field play.

 

You should just take a month off of posting after embarrasing yourself like this.

 

A black guy married your first cousin? And you vacation together? WOW! What a pioneer of racial equality you are. "Yeah...well, my cousin married a black guy...and we even socialize!!! That's how open minded I am." Classic, and not at all stereotypical.

 

You're the worst kind of racist. One who purports to be tolerant because he socializes or is related to one or two people of a race, then uses derogatory terms for others of that race behind their backs. Do you actually call your cousins-in-law (or whatever the relationship is) 'Token' or is that just implied?

 

I'm proud that you're so 'tollerant' and paid for the poor lil' chile to go to Disney. Thank ya, Massa. Laws yes, thank ya. Did you make sure they got to take the 'Song Of The South' ride?

 

Of course, you never addressed the core of his argument and mine. Forums like this are peppered with racial slurs and derogatory nicknames for blacks, when the only thing that's being commented on, at least on the surface, is their performance. Say, names like 'McNafro' as you referred to him earlier in the thread. That's certainly a nickname based on his play, not his color. Right? Take your time in explaining how that doesn't indicate exactly the racism that McNabb alleges.

 

I edited the original post because I realized that it's pointless to try and argue with those steeped in ignorance. So I actually will apologize for ever posting that paragraph. There was nothing to be gained by writing it. But my opinions of your views based on your public statements? I'll stick by them. And, as you nearly coherently stated, we all have the right to our opinions.

[DEEZNUTS 18]

I'm a white guy. Have been since birth. Spent years experiencing reverse racism from some people as the only white on many a basketball team. Despite that experience, if you can't see that black stars/celebs in mainstream American culture are held to a harsher standard, you're a fool. Just like many in this country and across the world, your ignorant fear and resentment of the big, scary black man makes your opinion on this and other matters involving race not only irrelevant, but sadly pathetic.

 

 

FINALLY - an intelligent AND honest post.

Thanks Hines86.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

A black guy married your first cousin? And you vacation together? WOW! What a pioneer of racial equality you are. "Yeah...well, my cousin married a black guy...and we even socialize!!! That's how open minded I am." Classic, and not at all stereotypical.

 

I'm proud that you're so 'tollerant' and paid for the poor lil' chile to go to Disney. Thank ya, Massa. Laws yes, thank ya. Did you make sure they got to take the 'Song Of The South' ride?

 

So it's your right to have an opinion, but not mine or McNabb's? I would expect that such a champion of the downtrodden would support everyone's right to speak, not just their own.

 

Of course, you never addressed the core of his argument and mine. Forums like this are peppered with racial slurs and derogatory nicknames for blacks, when the only thing that's being commented on, at least on the surface, is their performance. Say, names like 'McNafro' as you referred to him earlier in the thread. That's certainly a nickname based on his play, not his color. Right? Take your time in explaining how that doesn't indicate exactly the racism that McNabb alleges.

 

I edited the post because I realized long ago that it's pointless to try and argue with those steeped in ignorance. So I actually will apologize for ever posting that paragraph. There was nothing to be gained by writing it. But my opinions of your views based on your public statements? I'll stick by them. And, as you nearly coherently stated, we all have the right to our opinions.

 

Give it up idiot - you called me a racist and you were wrong. So wrong that you should be ashamed to even post here any more. You have no idea who I am and you were totally and completely out of line in your assertion. And wrong - did I mention wrong? Well you were. Wrong that is - totally and completely embarassingly wrong. Song of the South? Massa? I took him to Disneyland and had a blast - I didn't pay Aunt Jemima to baby sit him, he's FAMILY. What is wrong with you???

 

You now say I am "steeped in ignorance". Wow. You just continue to pile on because it's just sooooo hard for you to admit that you don't know everything about everyone - that you WILDLY missed when you chose me to attack as a "racist". Please. Did I coin the nickname "McNafro"? No. Was it based on his race? Well, I can see how you could jump there, but up until he shaved his head, HE HAD A BIG FOCKING AFRO!! Gee whiz, ya think that might have something to do with that nickname? You know, the one I didn't invent yet you are holding me responsible for?

 

You're the worst kind of self righteous loser on the planet. You probably think blacks are entitled to reparations too I bet. You spend all your days being apologetic for 200 years of oppression when the black people I know neither want nor need an apology from whitey. They want respect and the same opportunity to use their education that I have, and will be the 1st people I know to lambast lazy ignorant black people for expecting a handout. My favorite quote about a black man from a black man was when I was watching MNF with my cousin's husband, and Eric Dickerson came out - when Dickerson started his mush mouth he turned to me and said, "what a shame - that guy's taking black people back 100 years. Get a diction coach for christ's sake!" He makes no apology for a multimillionaire athlete who refuses to rise above.

 

Now about my post that you so completely misinterpreted: I thought McNabb's statements were racist. And in fact, I am positive that they were - he can't own up to the fact that he's playing like sh!t, and that the Eagles fanbase has ZERO tollerance for that. It wouldn't matter if he were green with purple polka dots - play well and you're the toast of the town. Play like crap and you get criticized. Welcome to Philly - where they cheered Michael Irvin's broken neck. McNabb expects support from the crowd while struggling? He's looking to the wrong group of people for sympathy - you'd think he'd know that.

 

What McNabb did was hide behind his race. He is using his race as an excuse for his poor performance by saying people are overly critical of him because he's black - a wholly preposterous notion. Donavan McNabb played the race card - it's a pre-emptive strike so no one can criticize him without being racist. And that is the worst kind of manipulation imaginable, and so off base and insulting to every credible journalist that it's sickening that a public figure could utter such a thing. McNabb should be ashamed of himself for his reckless actions, which for his own selfish reasons will stir sh!t up and cause more harm than good to race relations in this country. Is there racism in America? Sure there is. Will I tollerate it personally? No way - I cannot abide that, contrary to your "opinion" where you decided I am a racist. Is it ok for McNabb to blame the criticism on his race? Absolutely not - he's criticized for playing like a bucket of sh!t. And he'd be criticized if he were white, brown, green, blue, yellow or orange while playing like sh!t in that town. Hell, he'd be criticized in Philly if he went to the superbowl and lost because he....oh, wait. Sorry - that's right, he did.

 

I'm not from Philly, but being a sports fan as long as I have I know one thing about Philly fans - they will cheer for you Monday and eat you alive on Tuesday. Baseball, hockey, football - don't matter. You perform or they hate you and race has nothing to do with it. It's an insult to the fans, the media and pretty much everyone to suggest that anyone who speaks ill of you is a racist. And in a nutshell that's exactly what McNabb did with his comment. And you know what? He's just as out of line as you are by calling me a racist when I despise racism.

[Melissa Stark 1]

edjr said it correctly

Rush was and is right

Nothing like self-pity and pulling out the race card to try and avoid the bashing...putz

 

suck it up and take the lumps like ANY NFL player

[JT 137]

Give it up idiot - you called me a racist and you were wrong. So wrong that you should be ashamed to even post here any more. You have no idea who I am and you were totally and completely out of line in your assertion. And wrong - did I mention wrong? Well you were. Wrong that is - totally and completely embarassingly wrong. Song of the South? Massa? I took him to Disneyland and had a blast - I didn't pay Aunt Jemima to baby sit him, he's FAMILY. What the fock is wrong with you???

 

You now say I am "steeped in ignorance". Wow. You just continue to pile on because it's just sooooo hard for you to admit that you don't know everything about everyone - that you WILDLY missed when you chose me to attack as a "racist". Please. Did I coin the nickname "McNafro"? No. Was it based on his race? Well, I can see how you could jump there, but up until he shaved his head, HE HAD A BIG FOCKING AFRO!! Gee whiz, ya think that might have something to do with that nickname? You know, the one I didn't invent yet you are holding me responsible for?

 

You're the worst kind of self righteous loser on the planet. You probably think blacks are entitled to reparations too I bet. You spend all your days being apologetic for 200 years of oppression when the black people I know neither want nor need an apology from whitey. They want respect and the same opportunity to use their education that I have, and will be the 1st people I know to lambast lazy ignorant black people for expecting a handout. My favorite quote about a black man from a black man was when I was watching MNF with my cousin's husband, and Eric Dickerson came out - when Dickerson started his mush mouth he turned to me and said, "what a shame - that guy's taking black people back 100 years. Get a diction coach for christ's sake!" He makes no apology for a multimillionaire athlete who refuses to rise above.

 

Now about my post that you so completely misinterpreted: I thought McNabb's statements were racist. And in fact, I am positive that they were - he can't own up to the fact that he's playing like sh!t, and that the Eagles fanbase has ZERO tollerance for that. It wouldn't matter if he were green with purple polka dots - play well and you're the toast of the town. Play like crap and you get criticized. Welcome to Philly - where they cheered Michael Irvin's broken neck. McNabb expects support from the crowd while struggling? He's looking to the wrong group of people for sympathy - you'd think he'd know that.

 

What McNabb did was hide behind his race. He is using his race as an excuse for his poor performance by saying people are overly critical of him because he's black - a wholly preposterous notion. Donavan McNabb played the race card - it's a pre-emptive strike so no one can criticize him without being racist. And that is the worst kind of manipulation imaginable, and so off base and insulting to every credible journalist that it's sickening that a public figure could utter such a thing. McNabb should be ashamed of himself for his reckless actions, which for his own selfish reasons will stir sh!t up and cause more harm than good to race relations in this country. Is there racism in America? Sure there is. Will I tollerate it personally? No way - I cannot abide that, contrary to your "opinion" where you decided I am a racist. Is it ok for McNabb to blame the criticism on his race? Absolutely not - he's criticized for playing like a bucket of sh!t. And he'd be criticized if he were white, brown, green, blue, yellow or orange while playing like sh!t in that town. Hell, he'd be criticized in Philly if he went to the superbowl and lost because he....oh, wait. Sorry - that's right, he did.

 

I'm not from Philly, but being a sports fan as long as I have I know one thing about Philly fans - they will cheer for you Monday and eat you alive on Tuesday. Baseball, hockey, football - don't matter. You perform or they hate you and race has nothing to do with it. It's an insult to the fans, the media and pretty much everyone to suggest that anyone who speaks ill of you is a racist. And in a nutshell that's exactly what McNabb did with his comment. And you know what? He's just as out of line as you are by calling me a racist when I despise racism.

 

See, I didn't understand that as long as you weren't the one that coined a derogatory term, it was ok to use it. My bad.

 

I'm assuming you didn't invent the word 'coon' either. Would it be ok to use it?

 

Why would 'McNafro' still be a name you'd be compelled to use if it referred specifically to a hairdo he hasn't had in quite some time? Disingenuous at best to hide behind that explanation, and certainly not the behavior of someone that 'despises racism'.

 

Go ahead and puff up your chest and talk about how you won't tolerate racism, then unnecessarily call attention to someones race with a nickname. Keep telling yourself what a prince you are. Be sure to use those words and references you snicker at with your other friends around your cousins husband.

 

Methinks thou dost protest too much.

 

Do I agree with McNabb's decision to make this particular statement? Not really. Frankly, I've been tired of athletes/celebrities expressing views outside their area of expertise for decades. I don't care what Madonna has to say about religion, what Sally Fields has to say about the war in Iraq, or what Donovan McNabb has to say about race in the media. Tell me what you think about your team's approach against a cover 2 defense, or what you did to recover from your knee injury. Do they have the right to say it? Absolutely. Am I foolish enough to say that what he says isn't true, that we're not a racist society? No. You even admit it yourself. But see, when you say it, it's because you're such an enlightened guy. When he says it, he's hiding behind his race.

 

That double standard...that something is acceptable from me, but not acceptable from someone because of their race...is the definition of racism.

[Marckus 0]

Damn good thing Grossman, Harrington, losman, Boller, Elisha, and that guy on the cover of Madden this year arn't black...........

Wait,..........

The guy on the cover of Madden IS black...... and he's not very good yet??????...................

Madden '09................ Cover.................... Carson palmer, payton manning, or tom Brady.

I don't believe either of these guys have been on the cover, but are a sh1t load better then Young.

 

Payton Manning back in 2002-2004 Microsoft Xbox 1 game NFL Fever.

[Captian America 0]

You have to pity Chad Pennington and Rex Grossman because they can't cry racism when they suck.

I've been around for awhile and I'm telling you only if you are in some parts of the south is there any kind of racism towards blacks. Mostly everywhere else in the USA people are to busy trying to make it from payday to payday than to sit back and think about what color someone's skin is. It's not that big of an issue among most white people anymore, but I know there is alot of racism from blacks towards white people, they just won't let it go. Life is like a game of poker you have to except who or what you are and play the hand your dealt with. I'm not rich by a long shot but I don't hate the rich I just try to find my own happiness in my own little world with my family. To blame someone else for my short comings in life would be lying to myself, in my heart I know I could have more material things if I wanted them but at what cost. I would be working almost 80 hours a week and see very little of my family just so they could drive around in a more expensive car or watch a bigger tv. Materialistic things can't replace the memories of a child when he gets older. My son met Spiderman in New York city at a comic book convention when he was 7 years old, met the World Champions Steelers at Latrobe, PA and got autographs from Lynn Swann, Joe Green, Jack Lambert and others, been to Disney World about 6 times. These things to me were more important than working 80 hours a week to buy a more expensive car. My point is you live in America and the only thing is holding you back is yourself, so don't blame whitey if you can't do your job good just work harder at it.

[NAn 39]

How about this. I won't make sweeping generalizations as soon as they are not warrented. And fock you I will tell anyone I want about my experiences of how the black man whines and plays the race card as often as they can when things go wrong.

 

Yet somehow I bet anyone doesn't include any black people right?

 

Here's a sweeping personalization...you're a bigot.

[DEEZNUTS 18]

.... don't blame whitey if you can't do your job good just work harder at it.

 

 

...we really should get back to discussing fantasy football. comments like this are embarrassing.

 

holy christ.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

See, I didn't understand that as long as you weren't the one that coined a derogatory term, it was ok to use it. My bad.

 

 

I'm assuming you didn't invent the word 'coon' either. Would it be ok to use it?

Afro isn;'t derogatory. McNabb had an afro. I said it. I'd go to the south side of chicago, stand in the middle of the shopping district at high noon on a Saturday and say the word "afro" and not one person would be offended. You are really being silly here man. Afro is a word. Look into it. Really. It's not offensive. Honestly. If it was, the "afropick" would be referred to as something else. It's not called the "coon pick", is it? No - that, as you accurately recognize, would be racist. But afro is a hair style. It is popular among people of African American descent - much like the Jewfro is popular among my peoples. Ooooh, a new twist - the racist is a jew. Wow. So you think I want to burn myself? Still think I'm KKK? See what happens when you assume things about people you don't know?

 

Lighten up, Francis.

 

Why would 'McNafro' still be a name you'd be compelled to use if it referred specifically to a hairdo he hasn't had in quite some time? Disingenuous at best to hide behind that explanation, and certainly not the behavior of someone that 'despises racism'.

I was "compelled"? Really? Wow. I had no idea McNafro was bald until I saw him on TV last night. It didn't even occur to me as I typed it. There was no statement hidden in a nickname commonly used around here. But hey - way to read into it.

 

Methinks thou dost protest too much.

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Am I foolish enough to say that what he says isn't true, that we're not a racist society? No. You even admit it yourself. But see, when you say it, it's because you're such an enlightened guy. When he says it, he's hiding behind his race.

 

That double standard...that something is acceptable from me, but not acceptable from someone because of their race...is the definition of racism.

This is utter nonsense. You're just a windbag preaching to make yourself feel superior. I am no more racist than you are a left handed albino dwarf lesbian. You can accuse me of whatever you like, then smugly quote shakespear at me if it really makes you happy but you look like a complete tool for it. McNabb came out and played the race card. You can ignore it if you like, but he did. It's right there. I didn't make that up - I commented on it.

 

Tell me - you think Philly fans "unfairly criticize him because he's black"? Or do they unfairly criticize him when he loses, or sucks, or both regardless of the color of his skin? - I'd bet my house that it's the latter. He's a whiny puss who can't handle the pressure so he says the criticism is for his race. That's offensive to pretty much everyone. But that's fine - jump down my throat for pointing it out.

 

I'm done with you - you're out of your mind.

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Payton Manning back in 2002-2004 Microsoft Xbox 1 game NFL Fever.

 

 

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Racist!

 

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[Pimptaddy 0]

I think Rush Limbaugh was right about McNabb.

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This is likely McNabbs last season in as a starter in Philly.

 

He'll bounce around back-up jobs for a couple of seasons and maybe get a chance to start again if someone gets injured.

 

His legacy will be never having one a game that mattered and that of being weak man who couldnt take the pressure of the NFL.

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Go out and play football A$$ don't lean on the race card to help you when you suck. Would love to see how bad he is without Westbrook.