rwren 2 Posted November 13, 2007 I've gotten wind that one or more of our league owners have been asking for cash thrown in trades. As far as I know, money hasn't been exchanged. Let me hear some feedback from you. If there is no rule in our league prohibiting this practice, should it be allowed? Is it ethical? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puntjack 0 Posted November 13, 2007 You shouldn't need a rule against this because it shouldn't even be an issue. If someone were to even offer to include cash as part of a trade, that alone tells you that a trade is not equitable. Cash should never be allowed to be involved in trades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieG 4 Posted November 13, 2007 Many leagues, incld. my own, have a provision for transaction "cap cash" to be usable in a deal.. But strictly forbids "cash on the side".. punishable by expulsion from the League. That is down and dirty collusion, e.g. "flip me a few bucks and i'll trade you my good players".. What type of "cash" changing hands are you referring to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oneinchgroups@100yds 0 Posted November 13, 2007 no it is not ethical and no it should not be allowed. If one owner doesnt think that he is helping his team enough by doing the trade, so needs some cash to make it worthwhile = collusion at its best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,776 Posted November 13, 2007 It's allowed in real sports, why shouldn't it be in fantasy sports? ONLY in a dynasty league though. It's not fair in a redraft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted November 13, 2007 I would probably put a rule in place. I could see a situation where there are an unequal number of players being traded and one side picking up the transaction fee necessary for the other side to have a legal roster. Anything beyond that should not be allowed. For example, let's say that Team A is trading 3 players to Team B for 2 in return. If you are required to have a certain number of players on your roster, then I could see Team B throwing in a few bucks to cover the add that might be required for Team A's roster. If you wanted to allow that scenario, then you should explicitly allow it in the rules. Otherwise, money changing hands is crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclemercy 51 Posted November 13, 2007 peoples is broke... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 691 Posted November 13, 2007 It's allowed in real sports, why shouldn't it be in fantasy sports? WTF? Are you kidding? So if I offer someone $50 for Tom Brady, they can just say "Okay". Then Tom Brady is simply put on my roster, then I walk home with the first place $750? Or do I have to throw in some garbage player on my roster just to "make it work" on Yahoo/CBS? You can't allow real cash (something outside of FF) for something in FF--they don't have anything to do with each other. A far stretch of an analogy....but here goes: After a Nascar race, a cop gives one of the drivers a speeding ticket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lions_or_Die 0 Posted November 13, 2007 Collusion, unless you allow for it in your league rules. Even if your rules don't forbid it, collusion is what it is still called. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,087 Posted November 13, 2007 It's allowed in real sports, why shouldn't it be in fantasy sports? ONLY in a dynasty league though. It's not fair in a redraft. You know ed, sometimes I cannot tell if you are serious or fishing. This is one of those cases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
De Novo 0 Posted November 13, 2007 Even it's a dynasty league where everyone has prepaid in advance, that's just a slippery slope. Preferential treatment and collusion would come into play too often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleaver08 0 Posted November 13, 2007 I have thought about that myself. It just seems unethical. We have never had that come up in our league, but it seems like a can of worms waiting to be opened up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieG 4 Posted November 13, 2007 To the point of the original poster.. If your league doesn't have a provision for any type of cash to be included in trades then the practice should not be allowed. I love that we use this in my league.. it is not "cash on the side".. it is cap cash being added to make some slightly uneven deals work. It is very rarely more than $5 to pay for somone's trade or maybe $10 max. The important thing is any deal is still reviewed by our EC and commishes to insure fairness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,036 Posted November 13, 2007 I had a guy offer me a bag of weed and some cash last year for LT. I turned him down. At the end of the season when I won the championship I bought my own bag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Resident A-hole 0 Posted November 13, 2007 I'm a commish & I have a written rule against this. I had an incident in my leagues inaugural year where one playoff-bound owner offered a very lopsided trade to a bottom feeder with the caveat that he'd wipe out an owed debt. I got wind of it, vetoed the deal, & threatened to kick them both out of the league for any future antics. I've had no problems in the 7 seasons since I added the rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,776 Posted November 13, 2007 You know ed, sometimes I cannot tell if you are serious or fishing. This is one of those cases. | | | | | | | | J ´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º> <º))))><´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie George 0 Posted November 13, 2007 It's allowed in real sports, why shouldn't it be in fantasy sports? Because in real sports, aquiring money makes your team better and the money in real sports amounts to millions of dollars. In fantasy, earning money does not make your team better and 50 dollars doesn't compare to millions of dollars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,776 Posted November 13, 2007 Because in real sports, aquiring money makes your team better and the money in real sports amounts to millions of dollars. In fantasy, earning money does not make your team better and 50 dollars doesn't compare to millions of dollars. DYNASTY LEAGUE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,112 Posted November 13, 2007 You know ed, sometimes I cannot tell if you are serious or fishing. This is one of those cases. Yeah it's tough when the people are actually dumb enough to sometimes be serious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie George 0 Posted November 13, 2007 DYNASTY LEAGUE. So? How does having an extra 50 bucks in your pocket help your dynasty team. If anything, it hurts it more than it would a redraft league. You have to suffer from your bad trade for a while in a dynasty league instead of just a couple more weeks in a redraft league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cherry garcia 0 Posted November 13, 2007 No damn way! Money in trades in ff is cheating plain and simple and shouldn't be tolerated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bu7ch 0 Posted November 13, 2007 I offered Benson for a beer...nobody took me up. I offered to BUY the beer and GIVE benson and only got one taker. Not the exact same scenario but in our league we've been known to buy a beer or two when trading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaxjag 43 Posted November 13, 2007 I offered Benson for a beer...nobody took me up. I offered to BUY the beer and GIVE benson and only got one taker. Not the exact same scenario but in our league we've been known to buy a beer or two when trading. A beer is legit. Money... or a case of beer? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROCKET 0 Posted November 13, 2007 I hate to say this but if I'm in a league with a smokin hot chick and she's offering harcore sex for my five best players I'm trading Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larrymcirish 0 Posted November 13, 2007 no, no, no. did i mention "no"? this would seem to open a whole can of worms. the playing table would no longer be level because the guy that is willing to spend $ is going to screw the other owners. i'm sure there will be opinions both ways but this activity would cause big trouble in our league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larrymcirish 0 Posted November 13, 2007 I hate to say this but if I'm in a league with a smokin hot chick and she's offering harcore sex for my five best players I'm trading wellllllllllllllllllll, there is an exception to every rule (oninion). crap, rocket, i was trying to take the high road & you throw this at us. p.s. is harcore sex anything like hardcore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclemercy 51 Posted November 14, 2007 (oninion) are oninion's anything like onions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0 Posted November 14, 2007 Grounds for removal in my league. PERIOD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclemercy 51 Posted November 14, 2007 Grounds for removal in my league. PERIOD. so when you get your period that's like a bye week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
