Rattlesnake 0 Posted April 2, 2008 In another thread, someone suggested that IQ be used to determine voting rights. I don't think that's fair, personally, as IQ is at least partially out of a person's control. I think that understanding "basic" citizenship is a much nicer way to go. These are 20 sample questions from an actual citizenship test. Get 16 right, you stay in America. Below that, enjoy the ride...... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/ I love talking to my Advanced Placement US History kids about immigration at the turn of the century, getting them all riled up about present-day effects, asking them what the criteria for citizenship should be........and then giving them this test. Usually about 1/4 of them pass. We then talk about how they are the upper-echelon and that they study much more history than 90% of their peers ever will, and what this all means. Many of them wind up feeling guilty and calling themselves bad Americans.......of course, I reassure them that they aren't, but then we discuss the importance of, say, pop culture.....versus "boring" American history.......... Good times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voice_Of_Reason 0 Posted April 2, 2008 You answered 90% of questions correctly. Here's your rating: 0-20%: Maybe you're still thinking too much about the Old Country. 25-40%: Mmmm. Do you really want to be a citizen? This kind of performance isn't going to impress those nice immigration folks. 45-60%: Not too bad, but you really need to break out the civics books again -- word is, the INS is looking for an 80 percent score. 65-80%: Hey, you may make a good citizen yet! Look at your wrong answers and a little revision should do the trick. 85-100%: Welcome to the United States! (And, truth be told, you know more about this great land than most Americans.) Scroll down to see answers for each question. Also, please let us know what you think about the quiz. The feedback is appreciated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted April 2, 2008 Missed #19 (which form is used to apply for citizenship). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I have no idea what i'm doing 0 Posted April 2, 2008 You answered 100% of questions correctly. Here's your rating: 0-20%: Maybe you're still thinking too much about the Old Country. 25-40%: Mmmm. Do you really want to be a citizen? This kind of performance isn't going to impress those nice immigration folks. 45-60%: Not too bad, but you really need to break out the civics books again -- word is, the INS is looking for an 80 percent score. 65-80%: Hey, you may make a good citizen yet! Look at your wrong answers and a little revision should do the trick. 85-100%: Welcome to the United States! (And, truth be told, you know more about this great land than most Americans.) Scroll down to see answers for each question. Also, please let us know what you think about the quiz. The feedback is appreciated. It should be harder. I like the IQ idea. Make it 140 and above. Only the best and brightest should be able to vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 496 Posted April 2, 2008 You answered 100% of questions correctly. Most of them are pretty damn basic, but there's no way the average American would know #19 (and I guessed). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted April 2, 2008 Who killed Biggie and Tupac? A) Who gives a crap? All of the above Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rattlesnake 0 Posted April 2, 2008 I'll ask a question that I always ask the students......... In all seriousness, what percentage of the population do you think passes (16/20, for example) this test? I think that the number is fairly low, much lower than people would think and/or realize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rattlesnake 0 Posted April 2, 2008 By the way, keep in mind that the real test is obviously much longer, given orally, and involves no multiple choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spottedowl 1 Posted April 2, 2008 I got 75% correct. I'm not up to date on specific INS forms to apply for citizenship, or, which amendment regarding I forgot what it was, and got the Constitution dates backwards. I think I'll stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voice_Of_Reason 0 Posted April 3, 2008 I got 75% correct. I'm not up to date on specific INS forms to apply for citizenship, or, which amendment regarding I forgot what it was, and got the Constitution dates backwards. I think I'll stay. I'm sorry, you're out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisanthropicAnthropoid 0 Posted April 3, 2008 I got 95%. Missed #19, which, as has been said before, we don't really need to know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffalobillsffl2003 0 Posted April 3, 2008 19 out of 20 ###### I have a better citizenship test........if your fuckingpieceofshit ancestors showed up here AFTER the fuckingcivilwar, go back where you fuckingcamefrom, yer still a fuckingcarpetbagger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted April 3, 2008 I only got 60%! How did I ever get a college degree? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted April 3, 2008 I only got 60%! How did I ever get a college degree? Aren't you a video editor... Aren't the only requirements for that degree just proving you can hold your alcohol? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted April 3, 2008 You answered 95% of questions correctly Missed the 13 original states Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voice_Of_Reason 0 Posted April 3, 2008 I only got 60%! How did I ever get a college degree? Is that a question for us? I'm guessing you slept with someone or you paid someone or you paid someone to sleep with you. Or The professors got you mixed up with someone else. Or you had dirty secks pics of your dean in chains and leather. Any of these correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted April 3, 2008 Aren't you a video editor... Aren't the only requirements for that degree just proving you can hold your alcohol? Yes I am...and good point. I got all A's in that subject. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted April 3, 2008 Missed #19 (which form is used to apply for citizenship). Ditto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted April 3, 2008 Missed the 13 original states New Zealand is not a state. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,734 Posted April 3, 2008 You answered 45% of questions correctly. Fock me. I'm the Cyric of Messicans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,363 Posted April 3, 2008 60% I guess I had better sell my house and move to Mexico with my kats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 933 Posted April 3, 2008 60% I guess I had better sell my house and move to Mexico with my kats 60% also. Hello Canadian Ballet tho!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rattlesnake 0 Posted April 3, 2008 By the way, keep in mind that the real test is obviously much longer, given orally, and involves no multiple choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rattlesnake 0 Posted April 3, 2008 80% So, if this was the actual test, with no multiple choice, you'd be deported. Good job, professor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 313 Posted April 3, 2008 90% Missed 16 and 20. 16 I didn't know...20 I think I misread. To answer your question Rattlesnake; I'd be willing to bet if this test were given to 100 random high school seniors, no more than 25% would pass with 16 or more correct out of 20. Kids don't learn sh!t anymore in school. We just pump em out, dumber than ever, and that's the way they want em. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rattlesnake 0 Posted April 3, 2008 To answer your question Rattlesnake; I'd be willing to bet if this test were given to 100 random high school seniors, no more than 25% would pass with 16 or more correct out of 20. Kids don't learn sh!t anymore in school. We just pump em out, dumber than ever, and that's the way they want em. I agree on the percentage. When I give it to my Advanced Placement (i.e. college) students, only about 1/3 of them usually pass it. Sometimes it's less. It's really pathetic. However, let's just be clear that the reasons that kids are struggling in school is because of societal pressures, piss-poor parenting (this includes basic involvement, not to mention emotional abuse and neglect), ridiculous and poorly-organized federal mandates, and major budget cuts that affect instructional programs, particuarly in minority and low SES areas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpbuckeye 2 Posted April 4, 2008 So, if this was the actual test, with no multiple choice, you'd be deported. Good job, professor. Its passing in this format. You just need to be thankful none of the questions were about GW1 or Vietnam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rattlesnake 0 Posted April 4, 2008 Its passing in this format. You just need to be thankful none of the questions were about GW1 or Vietnam. Considering the fact that I aced my history Praxis when entering teaching, I feel pretty good about any US History test, no matter the topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisanthropicAnthropoid 0 Posted April 4, 2008 However, let's just be clear that the reasons that kids are struggling in school is because of societal pressures, piss-poor parenting (this includes basic involvement, not to mention emotional abuse and neglect), ridiculous and poorly-organized federal mandates, and major budget cuts that affect instructional programs, particuarly in minority and low SES areas. Haha. Hahahaha. Ha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quickolas1 80 Posted April 4, 2008 20/20 (guessed on the immigration form) watching john adams helps too any of the students question the answer to who is allowed to declare war? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rattlesnake 0 Posted April 5, 2008 20/20 (guessed on the immigration form) watching john adams helps too any of the students question the answer to who is allowed to declare war? They take this once we're approaching the turn of the (19th-20th) century and they're AP kids, so most of them have no problem with questions like that. It's the current questions, along with the original states, that zap many of them. A lot of them score 60's and 70's, which isn't atrocious, but not enough to remain citizens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TommyGavin 790 Posted April 5, 2008 Hello Canadian Ballet tho!! Mints 5951 Main St Niagara Falls ON Share this post Link to post Share on other sites