fixedrate 0 Posted July 17, 2008 Play in a quarterback heavy league with 1pt per completion and standard scoring the rest of the way.....have the 9th pick in a re-draft league.....Brady and Manning will be gone before I roll around.......based on everything being what it is, who would you think would put up the better numbers Romo or Brees.....Romo seems to be the "favorite" pick and seems to have a favorable schedule.....but Brees completed more passes last year which results in more points......who would you go with to lead your team with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted July 17, 2008 Romo slumped off at the end of the season, which is maybe why Brees had more completions, but I would take Romo over Brees, due to having a much better team right now. Dallas is making a HUGE push for superbowl this year and have a pretty stacked team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belushi 9 Posted July 17, 2008 Romo slumped off at the end of the season, which is maybe why Brees had more completions, but I would take Romo over Brees, due to having a much better team right now. Dallas is making a HUGE push for superbowl this year and have a pretty stacked team. I'm not exactly sure what "push" the Cowboys have made for the superbowl this year? What's changed on offence? Surely you're not referring to Glenn? I doubt Felix Jones will do much more than Julius. Anyway, my initial reaction was to say Brees, but at a point per completion, it actually becomes very close. With McCallister unlikely to be back to full strength and Bush not exactly at 25 carry runner, I expect the Saints to be passing allot again. And their defence still sucks, which helps. Very tough call there. Brees had a pretty rough start to last season. If he can start better this year, he could beat Romo in scoring, so I'll say Brees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zee 0 Posted July 17, 2008 I think Romo has a much better chance of putting up big numbers than Brees. But even in QB heavy league, do you really think your first pick in the draft should be Romo? Surely there will be RB worth taking, especially if you think Brady and Manning will taken within the first 9 picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,598 Posted July 17, 2008 Take Brees. The Saints are going to throw a lot this year. They have the fourth easiest schedule and their offensive line is very good. Add in all the short passes that are going to Bush, and one point per completion adds up. The Cowgirls are playing in a tough division and Romo has only proven he can bang a dummy. And remember, they haven't won a playoff game in fifteen years. I don't believe all the hype. Brees is number three on most boards for a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted July 17, 2008 I think Romo has a much better chance of putting up big numbers than Brees. But even in QB heavy league, do you really think your first pick in the draft should be Romo? Surely there will be RB worth taking, especially if you think Brady and Manning will taken within the first 9 picks. This was my first thought too. Romo may outscore Brees but I think Brees represents the best value. Brees is going about 1 round after Romo in mock drafts right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmbryant09 1 Posted July 17, 2008 I'm not exactly sure what "push" the Cowboys have made for the superbowl this year? What's changed on offence? Surely you're not referring to Glenn? I doubt Felix Jones will do much more than Julius. Anyway, my initial reaction was to say Brees, but at a point per completion, it actually becomes very close. With McCallister unlikely to be back to full strength and Bush not exactly at 25 carry runner, I expect the Saints to be passing allot again. And their defence still sucks, which helps. Very tough call there. Brees had a pretty rough start to last season. If he can start better this year, he could beat Romo in scoring, so I'll say Brees. They drafted a huge upgrade over Julius Jones, re-signed two big offensive linemen (one was almost for sure going to leave) to sure up one of the top 3 lines in the nfl. On defense they brought back an extremely extremely talented CB/returner in Jones, added much needed help to MLB in zach thomas. Also drafted one of the top cover CBs in the draft in the late 20's this offseason, signed Jason Garret to prevent his unavoidable move to a head coaching position elsewhere. I'm not sure how much of this DIRECTLY helps Romo's fantasy value, but I'm not sure why the dude made the point about a push for the Super Bowl in the first place. The cowboys really have had a big big offseason though, and they have made a push for the superbowl, its just fantasy IRRELEVANCE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted July 17, 2008 Romo-that offense is loaded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted July 17, 2008 They drafted a huge upgrade over Julius Jones, re-signed two big offensive linemen (one was almost for sure going to leave) to sure up one of the top 3 lines in the nfl. On defense they brought back an extremely extremely talented CB/returner in Jones, added much needed help to MLB in zach thomas. Also drafted one of the top cover CBs in the draft in the late 20's this offseason, signed Jason Garret to prevent his unavoidable move to a head coaching position elsewhere. I'm not sure how much of this DIRECTLY helps Romo's fantasy value, but I'm not sure why the dude made the point about a push for the Super Bowl in the first place. The cowboys really have had a big big offseason though, and they have made a push for the superbowl, its just fantasy IRRELEVANCE I'm not knocking you but the embellishment in this post is almost at ESPN level. It is good to see a homer excited about his team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belushi 9 Posted July 17, 2008 They drafted a huge upgrade over Julius Jones, re-signed two big offensive linemen (one was almost for sure going to leave) to sure up one of the top 3 lines in the nfl. On defense they brought back an extremely extremely talented CB/returner in Jones, added much needed help to MLB in zach thomas. Also drafted one of the top cover CBs in the draft in the late 20's this offseason, signed Jason Garret to prevent his unavoidable move to a head coaching position elsewhere. I'm not sure how much of this DIRECTLY helps Romo's fantasy value, but I'm not sure why the dude made the point about a push for the Super Bowl in the first place. The cowboys really have had a big big offseason though, and they have made a push for the superbowl, its just fantasy IRRELEVANCE He said to pick Romo because the Cowboys were making a big push to the Superbowl. How does a backup RB and resigning linemen you had last year in any way affect Romo? Not sure why you're trying to defend his point. The defensive additions aren't going to do much for him, and in any case I don't see that as a huge offseason push for the superbowl. A backup RB, a career criminal, a change at offensive co-ordinator, a 90 year old LB? Yeah, that'll put them over the top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coyote-kid 0 Posted July 17, 2008 I like Brees talents more than Romo even after owning TO last year. That Saints team will throw the ball more often playing catch up. Romo's flashes of inconsistency worry me and don't know if he can repeat last years performance. Plus, I don't see them playing much catch type ball and may sit on most leads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan6 0 Posted July 17, 2008 Since these guys are more or less a toss-up, what I would do (if you think it would work this way) is take the best RB available at #9 and then snag whichever QB is still there after the turn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belushi 9 Posted July 17, 2008 Since these guys are more or less a toss-up, what I would do (if you think it would work this way) is take the best RB available at #9 and then snag whichever QB is still there after the turn. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted July 17, 2008 They drafted a huge upgrade over Julius Jones, re-signed two big offensive linemen (one was almost for sure going to leave) to sure up one of the top 3 lines in the nfl. On defense they brought back an extremely extremely talented CB/returner in Jones, added much needed help to MLB in zach thomas. Also drafted one of the top cover CBs in the draft in the late 20's this offseason, signed Jason Garret to prevent his unavoidable move to a head coaching position elsewhere. I'm not sure how much of this DIRECTLY helps Romo's fantasy value, but I'm not sure why the dude made the point about a push for the Super Bowl in the first place. The cowboys really have had a big big offseason though, and they have made a push for the superbowl, its just fantasy IRRELEVANCE I think it's a little premature to say Felix Jones is a huge upgrade over Julius Jones. He hasn't played a single down in the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HawgWild 0 Posted July 17, 2008 Since these guys are more or less a toss-up, what I would do (if you think it would work this way) is take the best RB available at #9 and then snag whichever QB is still there after the turn. Exactly.. Get a quality RB1 and then whichever of these 2 is available.. Either would be good but I lean towards Romo by just a hair... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted July 17, 2008 I say Brees, and I say it's not even close. Brees attempted more passes than anyone in NFL history in 1 season last year, and completed a whopping 105 more than Romo. In a Point Per Completion league, that's about a 100 pt deficit that Romo starts in. Romo plays on a much more balanced offense and on a team that has a good defense as well, meaning if they're leading, which they are a lot, they're in ball control mode and running more, where the Saints are typically in shootouts or playing catchup because their defense is definitely lower tier. Romo has a much more traditional RB behind him Barber, particularly with the health of Deuce in question in NO. To me, defenses started to figure Romo out toward the end of the year. They saw his tendencies and where his weaknesses are and schemed to put him positions to exploit that. I actually see a dropoff in his play coming. Regardless of his conditioning, TO is an old WR, making him more prone to injury. Yes, he's superior to Colston when healthy, but Colston is only in his 3rd year and not even in his prime physically yet. The likelihood of TO going down is, IMO, greater than that of Colston. Colston is in a contract year and is severely underpaid for his performance, so he is VERY motivated to have his best year yet. Standard league I give Romo a slight edge maybe, perhaps have them dead even, but Point Per completion it's Brees hands down in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted July 17, 2008 I say Brees, and I say it's not even close. Brees attempted more passes than anyone in NFL history in 1 season last year, and completed a whopping 105 more than Romo. In a Point Per Completion league, that's about a 100 pt deficit that Romo starts in. Romo plays on a much more balanced offense and on a team that has a good defense as well, meaning if they're leading, which they are a lot, they're in ball control mode and running more, where the Saints are typically in shootouts or playing catchup because their defense is definitely lower tier. Romo has a much more traditional RB behind him Barber, particularly with the health of Deuce in question in NO. To me, defenses started to figure Romo out toward the end of the year. They saw his tendencies and where his weaknesses are and schemed to put him positions to exploit that. I actually see a dropoff in his play coming. Regardless of his conditioning, TO is an old WR, making him more prone to injury. Yes, he's superior to Colston when healthy, but Colston is only in his 3rd year and not even in his prime physically yet. The likelihood of TO going down is, IMO, greater than that of Colston. Colston is in a contract year and is severely underpaid for his performance, so he is VERY motivated to have his best year yet. Standard league I give Romo a slight edge maybe, perhaps have them dead even, but Point Per completion it's Brees hands down in my book. Bingo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 0 Posted July 17, 2008 I say Brees, and I say it's not even close. Brees attempted more passes than anyone in NFL history in 1 season last year, and completed a whopping 105 more than Romo. In a Point Per Completion league, that's about a 100 pt deficit that Romo starts in. Romo plays on a much more balanced offense and on a team that has a good defense as well, meaning if they're leading, which they are a lot, they're in ball control mode and running more, where the Saints are typically in shootouts or playing catchup because their defense is definitely lower tier. Romo has a much more traditional RB behind him Barber, particularly with the health of Deuce in question in NO. To me, defenses started to figure Romo out toward the end of the year. They saw his tendencies and where his weaknesses are and schemed to put him positions to exploit that. I actually see a dropoff in his play coming. Regardless of his conditioning, TO is an old WR, making him more prone to injury. Yes, he's superior to Colston when healthy, but Colston is only in his 3rd year and not even in his prime physically yet. The likelihood of TO going down is, IMO, greater than that of Colston. Colston is in a contract year and is severely underpaid for his performance, so he is VERY motivated to have his best year yet. Standard league I give Romo a slight edge maybe, perhaps have them dead even, but Point Per completion it's Brees hands down in my book. I'll 3rd this. Spot on analysis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted July 17, 2008 He said to pick Romo because the Cowboys were making a big push to the Superbowl. How does a backup RB and resigning linemen you had last year in any way affect Romo? Not sure why you're trying to defend his point. The defensive additions aren't going to do much for him, and in any case I don't see that as a huge offseason push for the superbowl. A backup RB, a career criminal, a change at offensive co-ordinator, a 90 year old LB? Yeah, that'll put them over the top. Well, I was going to respond to you, but since you are just a cowboy hater, I don't see the point. Pick Brees, I will take Romo and I bet the rest would be histroy for my team, while yours fails. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted July 17, 2008 Well, I was going to respond to you, but since you are just a cowboy hater, I don't see the point. Pick Brees, I will take Romo and I bet the rest would be histroy for my team, while yours fails. Not if you look at it realistically, Brees is going at least a round later than Romo. I have seen Romo go late first (11 and 12) in a couple Mock drafts where Brees can be picked up in the third. I see Brees as the value pick. Is Romo a good FF QB, you bet but it does matter where you pick him. and if you think drafting Romo guarantees you a winning season you are pretty new at this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huskerinct 1 Posted July 17, 2008 For all of you recommending he grab a RB, did you see that his league has 1 pt per completion? That's a lot of pts that RBs won't be getting. 18 completions = 3 tds! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Road_Cats 2 Posted July 17, 2008 What makes or break it here is simple. Where do you draft in the draft. Picking 10th or later you will be at the mercy of your friends hoping Brees will be there in the third round for you cause romo won't. But if I had a choice I would go Romo. Not sold that they will pound the ball as much as people think and Romo has more talent on offense. Also I like Romo's ability to scramble which I am predicting at least 3 rushing td this year. But all in all good spot to be in cause no matter which way you I dont think you can be wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,454 Posted July 17, 2008 Not if you look at it realistically, Brees is going at least a round later than Romo. I have seen Romo go late first (11 and 12) in a couple Mock drafts where Brees can be picked up in the third. I see Brees as the value pick. Is Romo a good FF QB, you bet but it does matter where you pick him. and if you think drafting Romo guarantees you a winning season you are pretty new at this game. I could have sworn I read somewhere that you're planning on drafting Romo. Change your mind? or being coy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted July 17, 2008 I could have sworn I read somewhere that you're planning on drafting Romo. Change your mind? or being coy? You are right, I was planning to draft Romo in the 2nd round 2.10 when that was his average draft posision. Since then he has moved up to a very early second round choice. Since I draft third I won't have a shot at him. I doubt I will draft Brees either because I don't like him at 3.3 and he will be gone by 4.10. My thought then was why take Brady/Manning in the 1st when you can get Romo late second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wicked joe 0 Posted July 18, 2008 Easy Brees for me. He has been very good iin New Orleans and he should continue to have success in 2008. Romo isn't a closer and that makes me a little worried. Brees has a proven track record and this will be his first offseason that he is healthy. I look for a big year from Brees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ers_suck 0 Posted July 18, 2008 Not if you look at it realistically, Brees is going at least a round later than Romo. I have seen Romo go late first (11 and 12) in a couple Mock drafts where Brees can be picked up in the third. I see Brees as the value pick. Is Romo a good FF QB, you bet but it does matter where you pick him. and if you think drafting Romo guarantees you a winning season you are pretty new at this game. theres a reason why he's going a round after Romo, granted it's based on last yr. i like Romo to have a better FF yr than Brees, but i do think Brees SHOULD be a better value. i've been targeting him in mocks where i'm going QB early. sometimes he goes a full round later than Romo, sometimes earlier than that. having Deuce healthy would help Brees tremendously. he brings so much to that offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,085 Posted July 18, 2008 Well, I was going to respond to you, but since you are just a cowboy hater, I don't see the point. Pick Brees, I will take Romo and I bet the rest would be histroy for my team, while yours fails. I'd take Barber at 1.9 and Brees at 2.4 vs. Romo at 1.9 and any RB you reasonably think will be there at 2.4, in his format. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ens189 1 Posted July 18, 2008 I have every intention of going Barber at 1.6 Fitz or Wayne at 2.7 and Brees at 3.6. That seems about fair position to take Barber and Brees and I foresee some really big years for both of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ER MAN 0 Posted July 18, 2008 I say Brees, and I say it's not even close. Brees attempted more passes than anyone in NFL history in 1 season last year, and completed a whopping 105 more than Romo. In a Point Per Completion league, that's about a 100 pt deficit that Romo starts in. Romo plays on a much more balanced offense and on a team that has a good defense as well, meaning if they're leading, which they are a lot, they're in ball control mode and running more, where the Saints are typically in shootouts or playing catchup because their defense is definitely lower tier. Romo has a much more traditional RB behind him Barber, particularly with the health of Deuce in question in NO. To me, defenses started to figure Romo out toward the end of the year. They saw his tendencies and where his weaknesses are and schemed to put him positions to exploit that. I actually see a dropoff in his play coming. Regardless of his conditioning, TO is an old WR, making him more prone to injury. Yes, he's superior to Colston when healthy, but Colston is only in his 3rd year and not even in his prime physically yet. The likelihood of TO going down is, IMO, greater than that of Colston. Colston is in a contract year and is severely underpaid for his performance, so he is VERY motivated to have his best year yet. Standard league I give Romo a slight edge maybe, perhaps have them dead even, but Point Per completion it's Brees hands down in my book. Great analysis and I'd go Brees over Romo in a point per completion format as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 18, 2008 Romo..they can score at will and have no real running backs... youll be p1ssed when the chargers give it to tomlinson every chance they get.... playoff pool? brees....romo wont ever win a playoff game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 0 Posted July 18, 2008 Romo..they can score at will and have no real running backs... youll be p1ssed when the chargers give it to tomlinson every chance they get.... playoff pool? brees....romo wont ever win a playoff game... WTF does this have to do w/ the conversation? In case you havent noticed Brees plays for the Saints now and they throw the ball more than just about anyone in the league. Unless this is a poor attempt at humor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted July 18, 2008 ok, am I missing something here? I know the OP didn't show the complete league scoring, which would probably have to factor into this discussion, the did 1/2 of everyone else here fail to notice that IT'S A FREAKIN POINT PER COMPLETION LEAGUE??? Unless they have some sort of insane RB bonuses plus PPR, I would be willing to bet that 8 out of the 10 highest scorers in the league last year were QB's. So, IMO, not only do you FOCKIN have to take a QB early, there's no way Romo or Brees should be left at the spot he's picking from. Player Att Cmp Yd TD Int FPTS PPCPts(6) PPCPts(4) Avg/GM Brady, Tom QB NE 578 398 4806 50 8 483 874.2 774.2 54.6 Brees, Drew QB NO 655 443 4428 28 18 294 752.1 696.1 47.0 Romo, Tony QB DAL 520 335 4211 36 19 331 681.4 609.4 42.6 Manning, Peyton QB IND 515 337 4040 31 14 327 656.6 594.6 41.0 Favre, Brett QB GB 535 356 4157 28 15 302 660.3 604.3 41.3 Palmer, Carson QB CIN 575 373 4131 26 20 264 654.2 602.2 40.9 Hasselbeck, Matt QB SEA 562 352 3966 28 12 245 654.6 598.6 40.9 Anderson, Derek QB CLE 527 298 3787 29 19 284 585.5 527.5 36.6 Cutler, Jay QB DEN 467 297 3497 20 14 221 528.9 488.9 33.1 Kitna, Jon QB DET 563 355 4066 18 21 163 583.6 547.6 36.5 Roethlisberger, Ben QB PIT 405 265 3158 32 11 246 561.3 497.3 35.1 Warner, Kurt QB ARI 452 282 3409 27 17 227 546.4 492.4 34.1 In a 6pt all TD format Brees ends up with roughly 70 more pts on the season (90 in a 4pt TD league) and would qualify for his own tier in my rankings were I in the league. I'd really curious to know more about the scoring rules from the OP and what the final top 10 for his league looked like last year. But based on PPCompletion, both Brees and Romo should be top 5 picks at a minimum. FF isn't one size fits all people, you have to know the first rule: 1. Know your league rules and scoring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted July 18, 2008 Romo..they can score at will and have no real running backs... youll be p1ssed when the chargers give it to tomlinson every chance they get.... playoff pool? brees....romo wont ever win a playoff game... Drunk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmbryant09 1 Posted July 18, 2008 He said to pick Romo because the Cowboys were making a big push to the Superbowl. How does a backup RB and resigning linemen you had last year in any way affect Romo? Not sure why you're trying to defend his point. The defensive additions aren't going to do much for him, and in any case I don't see that as a huge offseason push for the superbowl. A backup RB, a career criminal, a change at offensive co-ordinator, a 90 year old LB? Yeah, that'll put them over the top. I wasn't defending the point that this helps Romo out at all - because it simply doesn't...and I'm not a homer, my dad is a diehard fan so I'm sorta forced to follow them and am unbiased towards them. The last 2 or 3 years really has shown their Super Bowl push though - 3 years ago their qb's were like quincy carter and drew bledsoe and they werent even sniffing the playoffs. Now the last 2 years they are regarded as probably the best team in the NFC. Jerry Jones has spent a lot of money to bring in talent such as Owens, Jones, O-Lineman Leonard Davis, Zach Thomas, and resigning almost EVERYONE to long term contracts. Also, it was assumed the Cowboys were going to lose Jason Garret, the mind behind their ridiculous offense last year, and keeping him is arguably one of the most overlooked signings of the offseason. Zach Thomas has 140+ tackles in the 6 years leading up to last year, and was on pace for 160 when he went down...Jones, who everyone calls a f**k up and nothing more than a distraction........hmmmmm sound like anyone we know on the cowboys?? T.O. maybe?? Tank Johnson maybe?? jerry jones knows how to deal with character issues, so i'm not so concerned once Jones is reinstated. I agree 10000% that this has nothing to do with Romo's value, but listen to someone who knows the cowboys when you are going to judge their offseason. Ask anyone around football how their offseason has been and you'll hear nothing but high remarks...Bringing in 3 talented players, drafting a top CB, resigning defensive backs and securing the best Oline in football, and keeping an offensive genius at OC this offseas = pretty damn good offseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hood 9 Posted July 18, 2008 Drunk? No I think he's just cementing his status as a retard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBlade 3 Posted July 18, 2008 I say Brees, and I say it's not even close. Brees attempted more passes than anyone in NFL history in 1 season last year, and completed a whopping 105 more than Romo. In a Point Per Completion league, that's about a 100 pt deficit that Romo starts in. Romo plays on a much more balanced offense and on a team that has a good defense as well, meaning if they're leading, which they are a lot, they're in ball control mode and running more, where the Saints are typically in shootouts or playing catchup because their defense is definitely lower tier. Romo has a much more traditional RB behind him Barber, particularly with the health of Deuce in question in NO. To me, defenses started to figure Romo out toward the end of the year. They saw his tendencies and where his weaknesses are and schemed to put him positions to exploit that. I actually see a dropoff in his play coming. Regardless of his conditioning, TO is an old WR, making him more prone to injury. Yes, he's superior to Colston when healthy, but Colston is only in his 3rd year and not even in his prime physically yet. The likelihood of TO going down is, IMO, greater than that of Colston. Colston is in a contract year and is severely underpaid for his performance, so he is VERY motivated to have his best year yet. Standard league I give Romo a slight edge maybe, perhaps have them dead even, but Point Per completion it's Brees hands down in my book. I thought this was ok, am I missing something here? I know the OP didn't show the complete league scoring, which would probably have to factor into this discussion, the did 1/2 of everyone else here fail to notice that IT'S A FREAKIN POINT PER COMPLETION LEAGUE??? Unless they have some sort of insane RB bonuses plus PPR, I would be willing to bet that 8 out of the 10 highest scorers in the league last year were QB's. So, IMO, not only do you FOCKIN have to take a QB early, there's no way Romo or Brees should be left at the spot he's picking from. Player Att Cmp Yd TD Int FPTS PPCPts(6) PPCPts(4) Avg/GM Brady, Tom QB NE 578 398 4806 50 8 483 874.2 774.2 54.6 Brees, Drew QB NO 655 443 4428 28 18 294 752.1 696.1 47.0 Romo, Tony QB DAL 520 335 4211 36 19 331 681.4 609.4 42.6 Manning, Peyton QB IND 515 337 4040 31 14 327 656.6 594.6 41.0 Favre, Brett QB GB 535 356 4157 28 15 302 660.3 604.3 41.3 Palmer, Carson QB CIN 575 373 4131 26 20 264 654.2 602.2 40.9 Hasselbeck, Matt QB SEA 562 352 3966 28 12 245 654.6 598.6 40.9 Anderson, Derek QB CLE 527 298 3787 29 19 284 585.5 527.5 36.6 Cutler, Jay QB DEN 467 297 3497 20 14 221 528.9 488.9 33.1 Kitna, Jon QB DET 563 355 4066 18 21 163 583.6 547.6 36.5 Roethlisberger, Ben QB PIT 405 265 3158 32 11 246 561.3 497.3 35.1 Warner, Kurt QB ARI 452 282 3409 27 17 227 546.4 492.4 34.1 In a 6pt all TD format Brees ends up with roughly 70 more pts on the season (90 in a 4pt TD league) and would qualify for his own tier in my rankings were I in the league. I'd really curious to know more about the scoring rules from the OP and what the final top 10 for his league looked like last year. But based on PPCompletion, both Brees and Romo should be top 5 picks at a minimum. FF isn't one size fits all people, you have to know the first rule: 1. Know your league rules and scoring And then, he brought the hizzy down with this one.... :first: All others....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,669 Posted July 18, 2008 I say you take the best RB or WR available with your first two picks then take Roethlisberger later. Since everyone will pretty much have their QB's, talent level at WR and RB will be extremely high. You'd probably be able to get Ben in the 4th or 5th round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted July 18, 2008 I say you take the best RB or WR available with your first two picks then take Roethlisberger later. Since everyone will pretty much have their QB's, talent level at WR and RB will be extremely high. You'd probably be able to get Ben in the 4th or 5th round. You do realize that in the scoring format he's talking about that Brees was 191 pts better on the season than Big Ben??? There is no RB you can draft at the spot he's talking about that will be 191 pts better than the next RB picked to make up that difference. Good gawd, are people really this dense? He's in a QB focused league and yet people won't pull their heads out and stop saying "Pick best available RB" Brees completed roughly 180 more passes than Ben and 1300 more yards. In this format that's 230 pts difference right there, which Ben made up a bit in the TD department. This is crazy, it's like explaining something to people who not only can't learn, but don't want to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belushi 9 Posted July 18, 2008 Well, I was going to respond to you, but since you are just a cowboy hater, I don't see the point. Pick Brees, I will take Romo and I bet the rest would be histroy for my team, while yours fails. Not a cowboy hater. I really couldn't care less about them. I'm a hater because I pointed out that they haven't done anything to improve in the offseason? Go ahead and point out where I'm wrong. The Cowboys are a very good team and will be contending this year. I just don't think they've done anything to change from last year to say that they've made "a huge push for the Superbowl". Go ahead, prove me wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites