Another pressure situation for Romo.

[sirensong 111]

Just had a good friend who's a Packers fan point out that the Lion's run defense is overrated. According to him the Pack ran the ball down their throats to start that week 17 game.

 

I laughed as I pointed out the Pack were in a no-huddle to start that game, and ran exclusively out of the shotgun. Hardly smash mouth student body left lol...

 

 

this is a critical point. through the first half, DAL tried smash-mouth out of running formations/packages. the results were very poor, since DET could force the issue.

 

at halftime they adjusted, and in the 3rd quarter, they came out in the 11 package (1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR), from which they could run or pass. this forced DET into the nickel, and murray immediately started getting better yardage.

[R8RMick 242]

 

 

this is a critical point. through the first half, DAL tried smash-mouth out of running formations/packages. the results were very poor, since DET could force the issue.

 

at halftime they adjusted, and in the 3rd quarter, they came out in the 11 package (1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR), from which they could run or pass. this forced DET into the nickel, and murray immediately started getting better yardage.

I've seen glimpses of the Cowboys really changing it up, though there is something appealing to them just lining up in a 12 package and running it down opponent's throats. I think they should run out of the shotgun more, maybe even running draws out of that formation. Why don't they throw more screen passes? My gosh with those young athletic linemen kicking out quickly it would be lethal.

 

Am I the only one who thinks Murray needs 35 carries this week?

[sirensong 111]

they've been quite successful running out of the 11 for the last several years, largely because that was pretty much their base formation prior to this season. the screen game is a good point--linehan used it a ton in DET, but less so here in DAL (though to good success).

 

agree that murray needs to tote the rock a ton this week. what concerns me is the effect of the cold on his hand WRT ball security.

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Am I the only one who thinks Murray needs 35 carries this week?

He does, but not from an offensive perspective. The reason he needs 35 runs is to keep Rodgers off of the field.

[R8RMick 242]

He does, but not from an offensive perspective. The reason he needs 35 runs is to keep Rodgers off of the field.

Yeah, 35 carries 83 yds 2 TDs

Cowboys time of possession 37 minutes

 

Perfect

[Eagles Green 34]

Just warming this thing up.

[R8RMick 242]

Just warming this thing up.

 

Here's some ju-ju for you, since the Philly season is over.

 

 

 

[sirensong 111]

Just warming this thing up.

 

 

are we to expect the same deafening silence as last week if things don't go your way again?

[BiPolarBear 485]

 

 

are we to expect the same deafening silence as last week if things don't go your way again?

 

[Eagles Green 34]

 

 

are we to expect the same deafening silence as last week if things don't go your way again?

I was off the grid for the week.

Plus, I didn't feel like talking about the Dallas Refs

 

Thanks for missing me.

[sirensong 111]

I was off the grid for the week.

Plus, I didn't feel like talking about the Dallas Refs

 

Thanks for missing me.

 

 

it's amusing how often your "off the grid" episodes correlate with DAL wins.

 

and you were indeed missed--clowns are always appreciated.

[Eagles Green 34]

 

 

it's amusing how often your "off the grid" episodes correlate with DAL wins.

 

and you were indeed missed--clowns are always appreciated.

I'm here today.

Pack by 20

[Eagles Green 34]

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[sirensong 111]

I'm here today.

Pack by 20

 

 

comically inaccurate.

[SUXBNME 1,516]

 

 

comically inaccurate.

But if you have boobs, he'll give you a sweet pair of cheap sunglasses for a pic

[Eagles Green 34]

comically inaccurate.

I underestimated the Rodgers calf injury. If he's healthy, this game is a complete blowout.

[sirensong 111]

unsurprising that you've shifted away from discussing romo, who had 4 incompletions on the day despite pre-existing and new injuries of his own, not to mention poorer pass protection.

 

two of those incompletions were drops.

[edjr 6,608]

What a sad, sad person you are to be happy another team fails.

[donhaas 18]

What a sad, sad person you are to be happy another team fails.

 

You've just described 98 percent of the people at FFToday

[edjr 6,608]

 

You've just described 98 percent of the people at FFToday

 

Well.. a lot of "us" do it to fock with other people, just for fun.

 

Eagles fans actually mean it.

[Cruzer 1,995]

edjr, on 12 Jan 2015 - 2:46 PM, said:

Well.. a lot of "us" do it to fock with other people, just for fun.

 

Eagles fans actually mean it.

You have to deal with Eagles fans the same way you do retarded people. You endure it bcoz deep down you have a compassion for their plight and know that it would really suck to have to be them.

[Eagles Green 34]

unsurprising that you've shifted away from discussing romo, who had 4 incompletions on the day despite pre-existing and new injuries of his own, not to mention poorer pass protection.

 

two of those incompletions were drops.

He threw 19 passes. In the biggest game of his career, the coaches decided to turn him into Alex Smith. Not exactly what you would expect from a QB that was in the MVP talks.

[Eagles Green 34]

What a sad, sad person you are to be happy another team fails.

I love it when those bandwagon fans go back into hiding.

[sirensong 111]

He threw 19 passes. In the biggest game of his career, the coaches decided to turn him into Alex Smith. Not exactly what you would expect from a QB that was in the MVP talks.

 

ok, so now romo performed almost perfectly, but it was still his fault because the coaches?

 

it's fun watching you flail.

[Eagles Green 34]

ok, so now romo performed almost perfectly, but it was still his fault because the coaches?

 

it's fun watching you flail.

He was almost perfect? I went 0/0 passes. Do I get a ribbon too?

Truth be told, he was fine. Nothing spectacular, didn't collapse like usual. Coaches didn't put him in a spot to lose the game. He became Trent Dilfer but couldn't squeeze out the win. Hope the tears washed off of your Romo jersey

[sirensong 111]

He was almost perfect? I went 0/0 passes. Do I get a ribbon too?

Truth be told, he was fine. Nothing spectacular, didn't collapse like usual. Coaches didn't put him in a spot to lose the game. He bame Trent Dilfer but couldn't squeeze out the win. Hope the tears washed off of your Romo jersey

 

 

4 incompletions, 2 of those drops, and 2 TDs, despite a lot more of a pass rush than rodgers faced. against a SB favorite with one of the greatest homefield advantages in the league. so yeah--damn near perfect.

 

and he didn't puke.

[Eagles Green 34]

4 incompletions, 2 of those drops, and 2 TDs, despite a lot more of a pass rush than rodgers faced. against a SB favorite with one of the greatest homefield advantages in the league. so yeah--damn near perfect.

 

and he didn't puke.

4 incompletions, 2 of those drops, and 2 TDs, despite a lot more of a pass rush than rodgers faced. against a SB favorite with one of the greatest homefield advantages in the league. so yeah--damn near perfect.

 

and he didn't puke.

You're right, he was awesome. That 191 yard performance is one they will talk about for years to come. Did you not notice that was his 2nd lowest output of the year? Why do you think they took he ball out of his hands? Because they didn't want him to fock it up. And he didn't puke, this is true. If he ever gets past the 2nd round of the playoffs and reaches the Super Bowl, we will see if he is inclined to hurl. I'm sure he will get there soon. He's what, 35? He won't take a step back anytime soon. Plenty of productive years left in his future.

[sirensong 111]

Why do you think they took he ball out of his hands? Because they didn't want him to fock it up.

 

 

this is one of those record-scratch statements that is so detached from reality that you lose whatever credibility you have left.

 

you mean, why did they emphasize the power running game? for exactly the same reason that they have all year--to protect the defense. remember last year's defense, one of the worst in the history of the 16-game era? that bunch--minus their 3 best players--became this year's defense. and the funny part is this--they performed almost exactly the same in terms of giving up yardage. the difference between last year and this year was the ability to create takeaways, and the fact that they were on the field far less (978 plays v 1094 plays) due to the TOP advantage that the power running game created.

 

in this game, they were taking on the very best QB in the league, in his house, who matched up against the very weakest component of DAL's already-weak defense--the void of pass-rushing ability. so the logic of protecting the defense was even more important than in any other matchup this season.

 

and all of this is secondary to the ultimate refutation of your nonsensical statement. on 4th and 2, with the entire season on the line, garrett put the game in romo's hands.

 

and romo put the ball right in dez's hands.

 

 

 

granted, you've been trolling with this thread for years, and that's fine--an eagles fan has little else to do in the postseason but drag everyone else down. but a statement like the above shows that your script is more than a little threadbare. the art of trolling requires at least a semblance of credibility.

 

you lost that a while back.

[Mr. Landry 31]

You are talking to him like he understands football.

[Eagles Green 34]

 

 

this is one of those record-scratch statements that is so detached from reality that you lose whatever credibility you have left.

 

you mean, why did they emphasize the power running game? for exactly the same reason that they have all year--to protect the defense. remember last year's defense, one of the worst in the history of the 16-game era? that bunch--minus their 3 best players--became this year's defense. and the funny part is this--they performed almost exactly the same in terms of giving up yardage. the difference between last year and this year was the ability to create takeaways, and the fact that they were on the field far less (978 plays v 1094 plays) due to the TOP advantage that the power running game created.

 

in this game, they were taking on the very best QB in the league, in his house, who matched up against the very weakest component of DAL's already-weak defense--the void of pass-rushing ability. so the logic of protecting the defense was even more important than in any other matchup this season.

 

and all of this is secondary to the ultimate refutation of your nonsensical statement. on 4th and 2, with the entire season on the line, garrett put the game in romo's hands.

 

and romo put the ball right in dez's hands.

 

 

 

granted, you've been trolling with this thread for years, and that's fine--an eagles fan has little else to do in the postseason but drag everyone else down. but a statement like the above shows that your script is more than a little threadbare. the art of trolling requires at least a semblance of credibility.

 

you lost that a while back.

The biggest game of his career and he threw only 19 passes? Those are Dilfer-esque numbers. And yes, when the game was on the line, they leaned on Romo on a 4th and short. How did that work out? Like it always does when the pressure is on him. FAIL!!!!! Blame the refs, blame Dez, whatever. He failed, bottom line. He had a chance to make a play and the play was an incomplete pass.

 

It was stated above that Romo was near perfect. Near perfect? He was almost a non factor. Sure, they use a power run game and have all year, but in the big games, great players make great plays when their number is called. He didn't make the big plays. The Packers use a power run game as well. When the game was needed to be won, what did they do? Leaned on their QB who was operating on one leg. When the Cowboys needed a 4th and 1 converted, they didn't get the job done, bottom line. Is it all Romo's fault? Nope. But this thread was started years ago to emphasize Romo's failures. He has tons of them, and this is just another.

 

Romo has a tremendous O-line, an amazing run game, a hall of fame TE, and a top 3 WR. He only put up 21 points in his biggest game of his life. That's another fail, get over it, it's what he does. Jay Cutler = Tony Romo

This is just another chapter in the book of Romo's shortcomings.

[sirensong 111]

Eagles Green said:

 

 

Why do you think they took he ball out of his hands? Because they didn't want him to fock it up.

 

 

And yes, when the game was on the line, they leaned on Romo on a 4th and short.

 

 

well, at least you're finally admitting your self-contradictions.

 

that's a start.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Song - you're arguing with a bitter ass Iggs fan who's still upset and crying that Tony Romo and the Dallas Cowboys marched into Philly and biatch slapped them out of the division lead and the playoffs. As I've said before - post season whining about the Cowboys is a big a ritual for those loser fans as is the Punxsutawney Phil ceremony. They've got nothing else to do - can only polish an empty trophy case so many times.

 

Cowboys > Beagles

[sirensong 111]

Song - you're arguing with a bitter ass Iggs fan who's still upset and crying that Tony Romo and the Dallas Cowboys marched into Philly and biatch slapped them out of the division lead and the playoffs. As I've said before - post season whining about the Cowboys is a big a ritual for those loser fans as is the Punxsutawney Phil ceremony. They've got nothing else to do - can only polish an empty trophy case so many times.

 

Cowboys > Beagles

 

 

well, to be fair, PHIL has won almost as many games as DAL during the garrett era.

 

so they're nearly as good as the team they claim is inept.

[Eagles Green 34]

Eagles Green said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well, at least you're finally admitting your self-contradictions.

 

that's a start.

Every qb has to pass sometimes. Even the enept ones. Hell, ryan Linley threw 28 passes in his loss. You think the coaching staff regrets taking the ball out of demarco's hand and letting Romo throw?

[sirensong 111]

Every qb has to pass sometimes. Even the enept ones. Hell, ryan Linley threw 28 passes in his loss.

 

QB dropbacks, divisional round:

 

romo: 24

wilson: 25

[IndyFan 2]

Interesting post. I'm neither a Cowboys or Eagles fan but a football fan. I believe the Romo critics had some points in the past when he constantly gave games away in crucial moments. However, don't lose sight of the fact that he didn't have a great team surrounding him and was forced to put the team on his shoulders and take chances. The criticism may be more justified now that he has a better team at least when it comes to a running game and offensive line. He should be putting up Rodgers/Luck/Brees numbers with the tools he has on offense and the play action opportunities. 21 points against a less than stellar GB defense is not what a stud QB does in a big game.

 

Romo is an above average Tier 2 QB but not in the discussion of stud QBs.

[IMMensaMind 462]

Green Bay's D has improved - and though the effort against DAL wasn't really a great example of their improvement, it was nonetheless enough to win. To hold DAL to 21 points while Rodgers plainly chose to play the first half without any pain killer (he took some at half, and played far better after that) is pretty good.

 

Romo under 200 yards in passing is nothing trivial.

[sirensong 111]

He should be putting up Rodgers/Luck/Brees numbers with the tools he has on offense and the play action opportunities.

 

you're aware that offensive approaches differ, and that playcalling directly influences a QBs numbers, right? brees, for example, is usually called on to put up 650+ attempts in a season. the one year romo had that many attempts (648), he racked up 4900 yards, which are pretty much brees numbers. and romo put up almost exactly rodgers numbers this season: 8.5 yds/att (rodgers: 8.4, luck: 7.7), 70% completion rate (rodgers: 66%, luck 62%), and a TD every 12.8 attempts (rodgers: 13.7, luck 15.4).

 

so the real difference is the number of passing plays called. romo had 435 attempts in 15 games, compared to rodgers' 520, luck's 616, and brees' 659, all in 16. with spine and rib injuries. while getting sacked more.

 

so your "putting up numbers" comparison seems pretty questionable. let's think about it another way: you're comparing romo to rodgers--a guy who is in the conversation for the best QB in NFL history, brees--certain to become a first-ballot HOFer, and luck--the highest graded NFL prospect in the history of grading. the fact that romo put up equal or better numbers than these guys appears to prove the opposite of what you're arguing.

 

and as for the point production against a suspect defense in the playoffs? GB has a better scoring defense than DEN. the difference between romo's point production vs GB and luck's against DEN? a missed bailey FG attempt.

 

so according to your argument, luck isn't much of a stud either.

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