Tony Romo

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

Brings what on himself? Living his life as he sees fit in the OFFSEASON? It's already been established he isn't dedicating his entire time to golf. Try to keep up. He's a football player making a half ass attempt to try and make a tournament. Geebus people. It's no different than any other NFL player doing anything else in the offseason that takes up a little time.

 

Romo doesn't bring anything like this particular "situation" on himself. It's the accountants and basement dwelling football fantatic sheeple posting on message boards that bring ridiculous stuff like this up and spin it using hyperbole and hypocrisy. Get a clue.

 

You guys are killing me with this.

Some examples:

- Jessican Simpson at the games in pink jersey - check

- Taking off during playoff bye week with Jessica Simpson to Mexico and then putting up a stinker in the following playoff game - check

- Trying to qualify for the US Open and other tournaments - check

 

Don't you get it. These guys make millions of dollars and there is NO OFFSEASON. These guys eat, sleep and drink football all year round. Do you really think that these guys just stop working out during the offseason by lifting weights, studying tape, and being better prepared? Well, the reality is that the winners don't stop and the perception is out there that Romo is not doing the right thing. Whether that is the case or not, Romo is doing himself a disservice in endorsements and his next contract if he does not address that perception because perception is reality.

[Phurfur 70]

Romo had these commandments taped to his locker, I wonder what happened?

 

 

BILL PARCELLS’ 11 QUARTERBACK COMMANDMENTS

 

 

1. Press or t.v., agents or advisors, family or wives, friends or relatives, fans or hangers on, ignore them on matters of football, they don’t know what’s happening here.

 

2. Don’t forget to have fun, but don’t be the class clown. Clowns and leaders don’t mix. Clowns can’t run a huddle.

 

3. A quarterback throws with his legs more than his arms. Squat and run. Fat quarterbacks can’t avoid the rush.

 

4. Know your job cold. This is not a game without errors. Keep yours to a minimum. Study.

 

5. Know your own players. Who’s fast? Who can catch? Who needs encouragement? Be precise. Know your opponent.

 

6. Be the same guy everyday. In condition, preparing to lead, studying your plan. A coach can’t prepare you for every eventuality. Prepare yourself and remember, impulse decisions usually equal mistakes.

 

7. Throwing the ball away is a good play. Sacks, interceptions, and fumbles are bad plays..Protect against those.

 

8. You must learn to manage the game. Personnel, play call, motions, ball handling, proper reads, accurate throws, play fakes. Clock, clock, clock, don’t you ever lose track of the clock.

 

9. Passing stats and td passes are not how you’re gonna be judged. Your job is to get your team in the endzone and that’s how you’re gonna be judged.

 

10. When all around you is in chaos, you must be the hand that steers the ship. If you have a panic button, so will everyone else. Our ship can’t have panic buttons.

 

11. Don’t be a celebrity quarterback. We don’t need any of those. We need battlefield commanders that are willing to fight it out everyday, every week, and every season, and lead their team to win after win after win.

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

Brings what on himself? Living his life as he sees fit in the OFFSEASON? It's already been established he isn't dedicating his entire time to golf. Try to keep up. He's a football player making a half ass attempt to try and make a tournament. Geebus people. It's no different than any other NFL player doing anything else in the offseason that takes up a little time.

 

Romo doesn't bring anything like this particular "situation" on himself. It's the accountants and basement dwelling football fantatic sheeple posting on message boards that bring ridiculous stuff like this up and spin it using hyperbole and hypocrisy. Get a clue.

 

You guys are killing me with this.

 

As PFB said it above, THERE IS NO OFF-SEASON.

 

Off-season only means that there are no more games to play until next season.

 

Even school teachers, who get the summers off, will work another job during the off period.

 

Romo's content with what he personally has got. Nothing wrong with that. At least the team bows out early enough to give him a head start working on his golf game in the off-season.

 

The dude's almost 30, too. Can't quite blame it on his youth and inexperience as a professional athlete.

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

Romo had these commandments taped to his locker, I wonder what happened?

BILL PARCELLS’ 11 QUARTERBACK COMMANDMENTS

 

Rules 4, 9, 10, and 11, he obviously doesn't adhere to.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Some examples:

- Jessican Simpson at the games in pink jersey - check

- Taking off during playoff bye week with Jessica Simpson to Mexico and then putting up a stinker in the following playoff game - check

- Trying to qualify for the US Open and other tournaments - check

So NFL players don't have girlfriends and family memebers go to their games? Nor do they take two day vacations or do other things in the offseason like play golf.

 

Wow, Romo is crazy to do those things and nobody else would dare have a girlfriend in the stands. All this crazed attention was brought on himself for doing these wild and crazy things. You are right on the money.

 

My sides hurt.

 

ETA:

perception is out there that Romo is not doing the right thing. Whether that is the case or not, Romo is doing himself a disservice in endorsements and his next contract if he does not address that perception because perception is reality

 

See this is the disconnect. I don't fall for the media bullshit. I don't try to over-analyze Romo because he is the Cowboys QB and a polarizing figure. I call it like I see it. In other words I'm not a mouf breathing sheep and I think for myself. The real truth is that Reality is Reality and Perception is what people with an agenda want you to think by spinning non stories into something larger than they really are. I go with the former. Call me crazy.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

So NFL players don't have girlfriends and family memebers go to their games? Nor do they take two day vacations or do other things in the offseason like play golf.

 

Wow, Romo is crazy to do those things and nobody else would dare have a girlfriend in the stands. All this crazed attention was brought on himself for doing these wild and crazy things. You are right on the money.

 

My sides hurt.

 

ETA:

 

See this is the disconnect. I don't fall for the media bullshit. I don't try to over-analyze Romo because he is the Cowboys QB and a polarizing figure. I call it like I see it. In other words I'm not a mouf breathing sheep and I think for myself. The real truth is that Reality is Reality and Perception is what people with an agenda want you to think by spinning non stories into something larger than they really are. I go with the former. Call me crazy.

 

This is not just some guy taking a vacation during the offseason and for you to dismiss the perception shows that you don't get it. I will just call you crazy.

[KSB2424 3,148]

I will just call you crazy.

This may be the only correct thing you have said in this thread.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

as this thread has gone along, for me, it has become much less about Romo's time spent working on football and much more about him making a mockery of serious golf competitions.

 

I understand he enjoys golf and is fairly good at it.... awesome. join a country club and play to your hearts content... Leave US Open qualifying to the people spending their lives preparing for it... OR... OR.... get this.... spend the time yourself to legitamately prepare. Don't have a bad round and shrug it off saying you havn't spent much time on your game. Just makes you look like an ass.

 

And yes I realize if he was spenidng the porper amount of time preparing, I would call him out for his lack of football prep... I guess, in the end... don;t play in US Open qualifiers?

[Joey Gladstone 33]

1. Press or t.v., agents or advisors, family or wives, friends or relatives, fans or hangers on, ignore them on matters of football, they don’t know what’s happening here.

 

2. Don’t forget to have fun, but don’t be the class clown. Clowns and leaders don’t mix. Clowns can’t run a huddle.

 

3. A quarterback throws with his legs more than his arms. Squat and run. Fat quarterbacks can’t avoid the rush.

 

4. Know your job cold. This is not a game without errors. Keep yours to a minimum. Study.

 

5. Know your own players. Who’s fast? Who can catch? Who needs encouragement? Be precise. Know your opponent.

 

6. Be the same guy everyday. In condition, preparing to lead, studying your plan. A coach can’t prepare you for every eventuality. Prepare yourself and remember, impulse decisions usually equal mistakes.

 

7. Throwing the ball away is a good play. Sacks, interceptions, and fumbles are bad plays..Protect against those.

 

8. You must learn to manage the game. Personnel, play call, motions, ball handling, proper reads, accurate throws, play fakes. Clock, clock, clock, don’t you ever lose track of the clock.

 

9. Passing stats and td passes are not how you’re gonna be judged. Your job is to get your team in the endzone and that’s how you’re gonna be judged.

 

10. When all around you is in chaos, you must be the hand that steers the ship. If you have a panic button, so will everyone else. Our ship can’t have panic buttons.

 

11. Don’t be a celebrity quarterback. We don’t need any of those. We need battlefield commanders that are willing to fight it out everyday, every week, and every season, and lead their team to win after win after win.

 

Fock yeah! I remember watching Parcells recite this on Sportscenter a couple years ago. I think just one more year starting under Parcells would have done wonders for Romo's clutchness and leadership.

[Gepetto 1,368]

Tony Romo misses qualifying

typical Romo..in like a lion, out like a lamb.

 

Jordan, Roethlisberger, Timberlake play Bethpage

By RACHEL COHEN – 2 days ago

 

FARMINGDALE, N.Y (AP) — Michael Jordan is human. He's normal. He's just like anybody else.

 

When it comes to golf, Jordan insists all that is true. He played in the U.S. Open Challenge with Ben Roethlisberger and Justin Timberlake on Friday at Bethpage Black, and through two holes, he was trailing the contest winner who finished out their foursome, a Phoenix police lieutenant.

 

Jordan hooked his first tee shot way left and had to take a drop because of an unplayable lie. He triple-bogeyed No. 1 and double-bogeyed the second hole.

 

"Man, I was so tight it was amazing," Jordan said. "I could not get loose to save my life."

 

But as he noted when it was over, he's always been a second-half finisher. Jordan was 4 over for the back nine to finish 16-over 86.

 

Roethlisberger fared the best of the group, shooting an 81. Timberlake had an 88. Their playing partner, Larry Giebelhausen, just missed his goal of breaking 100 with a 101.

 

"Under these conditions, you never really know," Jordan said. "The doubt creeps in there a lot more than on the basketball court. On the basketball court, I never think about 'what if.' On the golf course you find yourself (thinking): What if you hit into the rough over there, can you get it out?"

 

The three celebs had celebrity caddies of their own. Rocco Mediate was on the bag for Roethlisberger, Anthony Kim for Timberlake and Fred Couples for Jordan.

 

Jordan credited Couples' positive reinforcement for helping him bounce back. Yes, even Jordan needs a little confidence boost every now and then.

 

"After a while," Jordan said, "I just said, 'You know what? I'm an athlete. I love playing the game of golf. I'm a fan — enjoy it. Whatever happens, happens.'"

 

Roethlisberger birdied Nos. 10 and 15, two of the toughest holes on the course that will be the site of next week's U.S. Open. Roethlisberger said as he and Jordan walked up the 18th fairway, they talked about how any course they play in the future will seem easy by comparison.

 

And they'll keep playing.

 

"When you become good at one thing, if you take up golf you want to be as good at golf as that other thing you do," Timberlake said. "It'll be a lifetime commitment for me."

 

The 59-year-old Giebelhausen won the contest sponsored by Golf Digest. He earned a spot as a finalist with his six-word essay — "I'm a cop, I'll shoot low!" — then the public selected him through online voting.

 

Giebelhausen said he's not easily awed by celebrities.

 

"That doesn't impress me," he said. "What impresses me was that they were nice guys. That they were fun. That they were genuine. That they were pulling for me. That they were supportive."

 

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

 

 

Notice that Roethlisberger finished with an 81 while he missed practice. So much for that knee injury.

 

Worse than Romo, just like his football statistics.

[wiffleball 4,790]

Tony Romo misses qualifying

typical Romo..in like a lion, out like a lamb.

[dhockster 0]

Jordan, Roethlisberger, Timberlake play Bethpage

By RACHEL COHEN – 2 days ago

 

FARMINGDALE, N.Y (AP) — Michael Jordan is human. He's normal. He's just like anybody else.

 

When it comes to golf, Jordan insists all that is true. He played in the U.S. Open Challenge with Ben Roethlisberger and Justin Timberlake on Friday at Bethpage Black, and through two holes, he was trailing the contest winner who finished out their foursome, a Phoenix police lieutenant.

 

Jordan hooked his first tee shot way left and had to take a drop because of an unplayable lie. He triple-bogeyed No. 1 and double-bogeyed the second hole.

 

"Man, I was so tight it was amazing," Jordan said. "I could not get loose to save my life."

 

But as he noted when it was over, he's always been a second-half finisher. Jordan was 4 over for the back nine to finish 16-over 86.

 

Roethlisberger fared the best of the group, shooting an 81. Timberlake had an 88. Their playing partner, Larry Giebelhausen, just missed his goal of breaking 100 with a 101.

 

"Under these conditions, you never really know," Jordan said. "The doubt creeps in there a lot more than on the basketball court. On the basketball court, I never think about 'what if.' On the golf course you find yourself (thinking): What if you hit into the rough over there, can you get it out?"

 

The three celebs had celebrity caddies of their own. Rocco Mediate was on the bag for Roethlisberger, Anthony Kim for Timberlake and Fred Couples for Jordan.

 

Jordan credited Couples' positive reinforcement for helping him bounce back. Yes, even Jordan needs a little confidence boost every now and then.

 

"After a while," Jordan said, "I just said, 'You know what? I'm an athlete. I love playing the game of golf. I'm a fan — enjoy it. Whatever happens, happens.'"

 

Roethlisberger birdied Nos. 10 and 15, two of the toughest holes on the course that will be the site of next week's U.S. Open. Roethlisberger said as he and Jordan walked up the 18th fairway, they talked about how any course they play in the future will seem easy by comparison.

 

And they'll keep playing.

 

"When you become good at one thing, if you take up golf you want to be as good at golf as that other thing you do," Timberlake said. "It'll be a lifetime commitment for me."

 

The 59-year-old Giebelhausen won the contest sponsored by Golf Digest. He earned a spot as a finalist with his six-word essay — "I'm a cop, I'll shoot low!" — then the public selected him through online voting.

 

Giebelhausen said he's not easily awed by celebrities.

 

"That doesn't impress me," he said. "What impresses me was that they were nice guys. That they were fun. That they were genuine. That they were pulling for me. That they were supportive."

 

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Notice that Roethlisberger finished with an 81 while he missed practice. So much for that knee injury.

 

Worse than Romo, just like his football statistics.

What's funny about this, is I saw this same event last year, and they had a contest winner, Justin Timberlake, some other celebrity I don't remember, and, you guessed it, Tony Romo.

[49ers_suck 0]

I think that you are confusing a casual round with your buddies a few times a week with qualifying for the US Open. It requires a lot of preparation and the qualifying rounds are typically multi-day events. Just to make yourself not look like a fool out on the course takes a lot of practice on the range, putting, and on the course.

 

If I were the Cowboys, I would certainly be asking him to spend that time in the weight room, with the new players, or with a sports psychologist.

Romo is a fierce competitor. ask the guys who play with him. he's playing football and golf at a high level. i say give the guy some credit for being able to be competitive in both. i know, i know, he hasnt done anything, blah, blah, blah.

 

i'm optimistic that losing TO could be positive for Romo's development as an NFL QB. the Cowboy's go run first, Romo's numbers go down but more efficient, he doesnt have to worry about TO's polarizing, whining, BS. on the other hand, TO's productivity and presence on the field may be missed. i'm still optimistic that TO's absence will ultimately be good for this team's chemistry and overall success.

 

my point is, this is a non-issue

[Franknbeans 46]

Jordan, Roethlisberger, Timberlake play Bethpage

By RACHEL COHEN – 2 days ago

 

 

Notice that Roethlisberger finished with an 81 while he missed practice. So much for that knee injury.

 

Worse than Romo, just like his football statistics.

Ha. 2 Superbowl victories to nil is the ONLY stat fans care about.

[jgcrawfish 232]

Notice that Roethlisberger finished with an 81 while he missed practice. So much for that knee injury.

 

Worse than Romo, just like his football statistics.

 

Ok. you are well on your way to earning 1st chair in the retard symphony today Gepetto...

 

 

 

FARMINGDALE, N.Y. -- There was no need for any last-minute heroics, not like Super Bowl XLIII. There was no cause for a feverish flurry or fantastic finish, not like any of the six games last season when he rescued his team and engineered winning drives in the fourth quarter or overtime.

 

Instead, as easy as he picked apart the Arizona Cardinals in the final minute to give the Steelers their sixth Super Bowl trophy, that's how simple Ben Roethlisberger made it look when he handled the challenge of breaking 100 at Bethpage Black.

 

"I told you I'd do it," Roethlisberger said

 

Do it?

 

He did it with ease, looking more like a U.S. Open participant than a two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

 

Despite getting a phone call Monday from Tiger Woods, telling him he had no chance of breaking 100, Roethlisberger won the U.S. Open Challenge yesterday, when he shot 11-over 81 on the same brutal course that will play host to the 109th U.S. Open starting Thursday, beating basketball great Michael Jordan by five shots with a round that included two triple bogeys and a double bogey.

 

"He played great," said his caddy, Greensburg native Rocco Mediate, the U.S. Open runner-up last year who had never met Roethlisberger until yesterday. "That course is hard. What'd he shoot -- 11 over? That's pretty good. He's very strong and he has a lovely putting stroke."

 

And, like he is accustomed to doing on the football field, Roethlisberger even wrapped it up in grand style, hitting an 8-iron from deep in the right bunker to 18 feet at the final hole that impressed even Mediate, a five-time PGA Tour winner.

 

"He wanted to hit 7-iron and I told him just rip an 8-iron at the pin," Mediate said. "You kidding me? I'd love a shot like that [in the U.S. Open]."

 

Roethlisberger nearly holed the birdie putt, even starting to backpedal like Woods did last year on the final-round putt that forced the 18-hole playoff with Mediate. At that point, though, it didn't matter.

 

Not only did Roethlisberger break 100, he bettered the low score of 84 posted in this event a year ago by Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo.

 

"I came in with such high expectations," Roethlisberger said. "But, when Tiger called me the other day and said I had no chance, I got discouraged. But it wasn't as hard as I thought. I'm real happy."

 

Roethlisberger, a 3-handicap, shot 42 on the front that included a triple-bogey-8 at the par-5 fourth hole. He followed with a 39 on the back that included birdies at Nos. 10 and 15 -- the only birdies produced by any member of the celebrity foursome on the 7,426-yard, par-70 layout.

 

In each instance, Roethlisberger hit a 4-iron to set up the birdies, the latter coming from 201 yards in the right rough at the uphill 459-yard par 4.

 

"Maybe the best shot of my life," Roethlisberger said.

 

"That 4-iron on 15 was silly," Mediate said. "If I would have hit 4-iron there, I would have come up in the front bunker. I couldn't hit that shot. He's just so strong."

 

Roethlisberger, Jordan (86) and singer Justin Timberlake (88), a 6-handicap who shot 98 in the inaugural event a year ago, all broke 100 at Bethpage Black. The only exception was contest-winner Larry Geibelhausen, a Phoenix police lieutenant and 3-handicap who shot 101 after shooting 54 on the front and taking a 10 on the par-4 16th hole.

 

Even though the round took 6 hours, 20 minutes to complete, NBC will televise the event as a 90-minute special June 21 before the final round of the U.S. Open.

 

Roethlisberger said last week he thought he would have no problem breaking 100 because he can carry the ball with his driver between 270 and 280 yards -- distances that are needed to reach some of the fairways at Bethpage Black. But he started to have a few more doubts when Woods, the world's No. 1 player, phoned him after playing a practice round five days ago at Bethpage Black, saying the course was so tough he wouldn't break 100.

 

"I got to collect from Tiger," Roethlisberger said. "And I got to collect from Mike for the birdies."

 

Still, there were a few anxious moments.

 

After his approach from the right fairway bunker at No. 6 flew the green and landed on a downhill slope in the nasty rough, a fan said to Roethlisberger as he walked to his ball, "Ben, I'd love to be you, but not right now."

 

Replied Roethlisberger, "That's why I don't do this for a living."

 

At the 460-yard ninth, Roethlisberger pulled his tee shot deep into the trees, leaving him with little clear path to the green. As he surveyed his options, Anthony Kim, a three-time PGA Tour winner who was caddying for Timberlake, shouted, "Ben, go for it."

 

"I am going for it, A.K. -- out there," Roethlisberger said, pointing to an opening in the fairway where he punched his next shot.

 

It was one of the few times during the round he showed discretion. Most of the time, Roethlisberger let Mediate talk him into being aggressive, not laying up and firing at pins.

 

"Everything Mr. Ford told me to do," Roethlisberger said, referring to Oakmont professional Bob Ford, his coach for the event, "Rocco told me the opposite."

 

 

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09164/97715...0IbcoTWD6&D

 

soooo....to summarize:

• Ben injured his knee in practice and missed the rest of practice that day
  
• Ben returned to practice the next day fine
  
• Ben played in a celebrity event that weekend, not a qualifying event
  

And the real statistics that matter:

• Ben shot an 81 at Bethpage, Romo shot an 84 the prior year
  
• Ben has 2 superbowl win, um, Tony is still waiting to win a playoff game
  

Ben > Tony on the field and on the course.

 

[WoodDuck2003 0]

I think that you are confusing a casual round with your buddies a few times a week with qualifying for the US Open. It requires a lot of preparation and the qualifying rounds are typically multi-day events. Just to make yourself not look like a fool out on the course takes a lot of practice on the range, putting, and on the course.

 

If I were the Cowboys, I would certainly be asking him to spend that time in the weight room, with the new players, or with a sports psychologist.

 

First of all anyone with $150 and a certified handicap of 1 or less can enter the US Open qualifying. Second, qualifying rounds for this event are only multiple days if you advance to the second stage. The fact is that he tried to qualify at Dallas National which is a course he plays often (I believe he is actually a member there) throught the offseason thus he did not take a ton of time to prepare. He prob treated this qualifying much like the other rounds he plays with his buddies. He certainly was not neglecting any football duties to prepare for it.

 

As far as the sports psych, he/she would prob tell him that hobbies are a good thing and that he is trying to hard b/c of what has happened. If you have ever been to a sports psych you would know one of the big things is quality time away from the profession (whatever it is). All professional atheletes have hobbies and the fact that a big deal is being made of this is crazy.

 

Now his issues in the offseason, his relationship with his WRs, etc. are things we should be talking about not his hobbies during the offseason.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

First of all anyone with $150 and a certified handicap of 1 or less can enter the US Open qualifying. Second, qualifying rounds for this event are only multiple days if you advance to the second stage. The fact is that he tried to qualify at Dallas National which is a course he plays often (I believe he is actually a member there) throught the offseason thus he did not take a ton of time to prepare. He prob treated this qualifying much like the other rounds he plays with his buddies. He certainly was not neglecting any football duties to prepare for it.

 

As far as the sports psych, he/she would prob tell him that hobbies are a good thing and that he is trying to hard b/c of what has happened. If you have ever been to a sports psych you would know one of the big things is quality time away from the profession (whatever it is). All professional atheletes have hobbies and the fact that a big deal is being made of this is crazy.

 

Now his issues in the offseason, his relationship with his WRs, etc. are things we should be talking about not his hobbies during the offseason.

 

The top part (golf) is a perception issue that is tied to the part in bold. As we went through earlier in this thread, guys like Brady and Manning (Roethlisberger is in there now) can get away with the public scrutiny because they have won and during the season, they are VERY prepared. Until Romo gets to that point, he should expect to get some grief.

 

However, you make a very good point that he may have just been wanting the challenge of playing in a qualifying round at a course that has a US Open layout. I have never heard him say that he was just messing around and was not really trying to qualify to the next stages, though.

[Gepetto 1,368]

Ok. you are well on your way to earning 1st chair in the retard symphony today Gepetto...

soooo....to summarize:

• Ben injured his knee in practice and missed the rest of practice that day
  
• Ben returned to practice the next day fine
  
• Ben played in a celebrity event that weekend, not a qualifying event
  

And the real statistics that matter:

• Ben shot an 81 at Bethpage, Romo shot an 84 the prior year
  
• Ben has 2 superbowl win, um, Tony is still waiting to win a playoff game
  

Ben > Tony on the field and on the course.

 

 

Romo shot an 80 competing to play in the US Open, this year. Romo shot an 80 and Ben shot an 81. And Romo gets criticized for playing golf.

[jgcrawfish 232]

Romo shot an 80 competing to play in the US Open, this year. Romo shot an 80 and Ben shot an 81. And Romo gets criticized for playing golf.

 

Tony Romo shot an 80 at the Dallas National Golf Club that he plays regularly. He shot an 84 at Bethpage (NY) last year, where Ben shot an 81 this year. The 84 Romo shot last year was previously the low for a "celebrity", which Ben has now bested...much like his 2 Superbowl wins bests ANYTHING Romo has done or likely will ever do. Oh, and nobody criticizes Romo for playing golf...they criticize him for trying out for the pro golf tour when he hasn't done SH!T on the football field.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

Tony Romo shot an 80 at the Dallas National Golf Club that he plays regularly. He shot an 84 at Bethpage (NY) last year, where Ben shot an 81 this year. The 84 Romo shot last year was previously the low for a "celebrity", which Ben has now bested...much like his 2 Superbowl wins bests ANYTHING Romo has done or likely will ever do. Oh, and nobody criticizes Romo for playing golf...they criticize him for trying out for the pro golf tour when he hasn't done SH!T on the football field.

 

Last year, Romo shot an 84 at Torrey Pines (site of last year's US Open). I can find no references to Romo shooting 84 at Bethpage Black under US Open conditions. With Jordan shooting an 86 this year and Timberlake besting his score from last year by 10 strokes, I am interested to see if Bethpage is playing easier for the pros than Torrey Pines was last year.

[jgcrawfish 232]

Last year, Romo shot an 84 at Torrey Pines (site of last year's US Open). I can find no references to Romo shooting 84 at Bethpage Black under US Open conditions. With Jordan shooting an 86 this year and Timberlake besting his score from last year by 10 strokes, I am interested to see if Bethpage is playing easier for the pros than Torrey Pines was last year.

 

I take it back...the article doesn't say he did it on Bethpage Black, just that it was at the US Open Challenge, and it does appear that Torrey Pines was the locale last year. It said same event last year, not same location...my bad.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

I take it back...the article doesn't say he did it on Bethpage Black, just that it was at the US Open Challenge, and it does appear that Torrey Pines was the locale last year. It said same event last year, not same location...my bad.

No big shake, but I was serious about the question of the layout of the course this year vs. Torrey Pines last year.

[jgcrawfish 232]

No big shake, but I was serious about the question of the layout of the course this year vs. Torrey Pines last year.

 

It's a valid question. I guess only time will tell if the scores are lower this year than last. I also wonder if they vary the pin placements, rough length and stuff to make it easier on the celebrities.

[Gepetto 1,368]

Tony Romo shot an 80 at the Dallas National Golf Club that he plays regularly. He shot an 84 at Bethpage (NY) last year, where Ben shot an 81 this year. The 84 Romo shot last year was previously the low for a "celebrity", which Ben has now bested...much like his 2 Superbowl wins bests ANYTHING Romo has done or likely will ever do. Oh, and nobody criticizes Romo for playing golf...they criticize him for trying out for the pro golf tour when he hasn't done SH!T on the football field.

 

Romo has done a lot and played at a high level. He's one of the better QBs in the NFL. Romo is a far better QB than Big Ben. Look what happens when they open up the play book for Big Ben, 30 interceptions. Dude has such a limited playbook that he eeks out 3000 yards. They limit the playbook b/c he's a limited player. It's a team sport, the Steelers won two super bowls on a team that Big Ben plays for. They one in spite of him the first super bowl and thanks to a trick play call and help from the refs. The last super bowl Ben played well and had a great drive at the end and and throw to win it. But overall, Romo has been and is the better QB than Ben.

[Franknbeans 46]

Romo has done a lot and played at a high level. He's one of the better QBs in the NFL. Romo is a far better QB than Big Ben. Look what happens when they open up the play book for Big Ben, 30 interceptions. Dude has such a limited playbook that he eeks out 3000 yards. They limit the playbook b/c he's a limited player. It's a team sport, the Steelers won two super bowls on a team that Big Ben plays for. They one in spite of him the first super bowl and thanks to a trick play call and help from the refs. The last super bowl Ben played well and had a great drive at the end and and throw to win it. But overall, Romo has been and is the better QB than Ben.

Ben- :first:

Romo-

[Gepetto 1,368]

Ben- :first:

Romo-

 

It's the same as Karl Malone and Charles Barkley never winning an NBA title, but Horace Grant winning multiple titles. Horace Grant wasn't as good of a power forward as Barkley or Karl Malone. I think every game matters when evaluating players, not just team wins/titles. It's a mistake a lot of novice fans make when they try to evaluate talent.

[Phurfur 70]

Romo has done a lot and played at a high level. He's one of the better QBs in the NFL. Romo is a far better QB than Big Ben. Look what happens when they open up the play book for Big Ben, 30 interceptions. Dude has such a limited playbook that he eeks out 3000 yards. They limit the playbook b/c he's a limited player. It's a team sport, the Steelers won two super bowls on a team that Big Ben plays for. They one in spite of him the first super bowl and thanks to a trick play call and help from the refs. The last super bowl Ben played well and had a great drive at the end and and throw to win it. But overall, Romo has been and is the better QB than Ben.

 

 

This made me laugh. Ben is a winner and Romo is not! Romo has much better stats than Troy Aikman but will anyone say Romo is a better QB? The thing I remember about Ben's 1st SB playoff run is his game saving tackle after the Bettis fumble. It is the little things that matter.

[Franknbeans 46]

It's the same as Karl Malone and Charles Barkley never winning an NBA title, but Horace Grant winning multiple titles. Horace Grant wasn't as good of a power forward as Barkley or Karl Malone. I think every game matters when evaluating players, not just team wins/titles. It's a mistake a lot of novice fans make when they try to evaluate talent.

This isn't the NBA, newbie.

[Gepetto 1,368]

This isn't the NBA, newbie.

 

It's an analogy. Nice deflection of my point though.

[Franknbeans 46]

It's an analogy. Nice deflection of my point though.

and of mine. Analogies suck.

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Romo has done a lot and played at a high level. He's one of the better QBs in the NFL. Romo is a far better QB than Big Ben. Look what happens when they open up the play book for Big Ben, 30 interceptions. Dude has such a limited playbook that he eeks out 3000 yards. They limit the playbook b/c he's a limited player. It's a team sport, the Steelers won two super bowls on a team that Big Ben plays for. They one in spite of him the first super bowl and thanks to a trick play call and help from the refs. The last super bowl Ben played well and had a great drive at the end and and throw to win it. But overall, Romo has been and is the better QB than Ben.

 

It's the early 90's. I have to choose between Troy Aikman and Warren Moon for my fantasy football team. I choose Moon, no question.

 

Now I have to choose which one I want to lead the team I root for. I pick Aikman. Why? Aikman makes the plays when he needs to, Moon does not.

 

Same thing today. Fantasy wise, Romo is the better choice. Who do I want as QB to win the big games? Big Ben, no question.

[Gepetto 1,368]

It's the early 90's. I have to choose between Troy Aikman and Warren Moon for my fantasy football team. I choose Moon, no question.

 

Now I have to choose which one I want to lead the team I root for. I pick Aikman. Why? Aikman makes the plays when he needs to, Moon does not.

 

Same thing today. Fantasy wise, Romo is the better choice. Who do I want as QB to win the big games? Big Ben, no question.

 

What about Warren Moon's play makes you believe is why he never won a Super Bowl?

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What about Warren Moon's play makes you believe is why he never won a Super Bowl?

Moon, Like Romo could not win the big games. He had a 3-7 career playoff record and all of the wins

were in wildcard games. The most famous lose of all was the disaster in Buffalo when they blew a 35-3 2nd halve lead

against Frank Reich. Did the defense suck? Sure, but the offense was just as bad in that second half when they kept

giving the ball back to the Bills so they could score some more.

 

Ultimately, the QB gets too much credit or blame for their teams wins and loses. But the Quarterback, of all the players on the field, probably does affect the game the most because they are involved in all of their teams offensive plays. So when a team fails over a period of time with the same QB, I think it is fair too say that the QB has to have an impact on why that team is failing.

[Gepetto 1,368]

Moon, Like Romo could not win the big games. He had a 3-7 career playoff record and all of the wins

were in wildcard games. The most famous lose of all was the disaster in Buffalo when they blew a 35-3 2nd halve lead

against Frank Reich. Did the defense suck? Sure, but the offense was just as bad in that second half when they kept

giving the ball back to the Bills so they could score some more.

 

Ultimately, the QB gets too much credit or blame for their teams wins and loses. But the Quarterback, of all the players on the field, probably does affect the game the most because they are involved in all of their teams offensive plays. So when a team fails over a period of time with the same QB, I think it is fair too say that the QB has to have an impact on why that team is failing.

 

I completely disagree that Moon was the reason his teams never won a Super Bowl. You haven't explained what Moon was doing wrong to allow the team to lose.

[Phurfur 70]

I completely disagree that Moon was the reason his teams never won a Super Bowl. You haven't explained what Moon was doing wrong to allow the team to lose.

 

 

It is not what they do, it is what they don't do. I don't know about Moon but Romo

 

1. could not get 1/2 yard (for a first down) on a bobbled snap with the game on the line against Seattle in 2006.

2. could not move the team 48 yards in over 2 minutes for a winning score against the NYG in 2007.

3. never showed up against the Eagles (with a QB rating of 55.8) when a play off spot was on the line in 2008.

 

and that is his body of work.

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I completely disagree that Moon was the reason his teams never won a Super Bowl. You haven't explained what Moon was doing wrong to allow the team to lose.

 

From 1991 to 1993, the Oilers had a regular season record of 33-15. All three years their defense was ranked in the top ten in points allowed. Yet they went 0-3 in the playoffs those three years. Combined in those three games, the offense scored 1 touchdown and a total of 16 points in the second half, as the Oilers blew leads in all of them. Yes, overall, Warren Moon has good stats in those games, but in the second half, when his team needed him to do something, he didn't. The opposing team QB's all scored when they had to.

 

I am not saying that all of the blame should be put on Moon (the run and shoot offense certainly had something to with it), but like I said before, since he was the QB for all three games, he was a factor in why they lost.

 

Even if you do not agree with my Moon/Romo comparison, you're contention that Romo is a better QB than Big Ben is ridiculus. The bottom line is wins and losses when the games really matter (December and the Playoffs) and Big Ben blows Romo away in this area.

[Gepetto 1,368]

From 1991 to 1993, the Oilers had a regular season record of 33-15. All three years their defense was ranked in the top ten in points allowed. Yet they went 0-3 in the playoffs those three years. Combined in those three games, the offense scored 1 touchdown and a total of 16 points in the second half, as the Oilers blew leads in all of them. Yes, overall, Warren Moon has good stats in those games, but in the second half, when his team needed him to do something, he didn't. The opposing team QB's all scored when they had to.

 

I am not saying that all of the blame should be put on Moon (the run and shoot offense certainly had something to with it), but like I said before, since he was the QB for all three games, he was a factor in why they lost.

 

Even if you do not agree with my Moon/Romo comparison, you're contention that Romo is a better QB than Big Ben is ridiculus. The bottom line is wins and losses when the games really matter (December and the Playoffs) and Big Ben blows Romo away in this area.

 

Ben was horrible in that first super bowl. NFL Network just showed the Steelers vs Jags games from Dec. 2007, 4th and 7 and the Steelers with the ball, with time running out, down by just a few points; Roethlisberger threw a 2 yard pass to Heath Miller out of the backfield who came up short of the first down. Game Over. I respectfully disagree.

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Tony Romo misses qualifying

typical Romo..in like a lion, out like a lamb.

 

[49ers_suck 0]

few things aboot this thread........

 

1. it's dumb

2. crawfish is just a blatant Cowboys hater tryin to pick a fight.

3. Romo could win the SB this yr and he'll still get crap for smiling too much, or shooting an 80 or whatever.

[49ers_suck 0]

Ben was horrible in that first super bowl. NFL Network just showed the Steelers vs Jags games from Dec. 2007, 4th and 7 and the Steelers with the ball, with time running out, down by just a few points; Roethlisberger threw a 2 yard pass to Heath Miller out of the backfield who came up short of the first down. Game Over. I respectfully disagree.

the steelers would have won the SB with or without ben both yrs. it was more aboot their D. kinda like dilfer.