JETS talking smack to PATS

[KSB2424 3,148]

The one thing that I kept thinking about the whole game was how much Welker was missed. Against a blitzing team like the Jets his quick slants, 5 yard hooks, and WR screens were imperative for Brady to get the ball out quickly. That really hampered the Patriots IMO.

 

The Jets looked really good, and are built for the post season. Defense / Low Turnovers / Running game.

[RLLD 4,237]

SIGH

 

Same old Pat's fans for the most part.....

[Dan 66]

OK OK luck was a bad description. Jets had one very good day the Pats weren't prepared. Luck was a poor choice of words.

 

Denial . . . not just a river in Egypt.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

I didn't see the game TD, just the highlights (or lowlights as the case may be), but going by the stats the defense didn't play too badly. I was really worried about the run D, but they actually look to have held up okay against Jones and Washington. How did they look? Any positives to take away from yesterday?

The defense was fine. The offense was stifled. Brady looks very tentative. Dropped passes and passes that were not close to their intended target.

 

The Jets played very well and clearly deserved to win that game. It is still a long season, but the Patriots really should be 0-2 right now. If that does not give them enough motivation to step it up, then I don't know what will. They have two tough games coming up at home (ATL and BAL). If home-cooking does not work, then they could easily be looking at the playoffs from the outside.

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

Denial . . . not just a river in Egypt.

 

Danny Boy, what the hell do you want from me? The Jets didn't play two games yesterday did they? They had one very good game. Let's see where the season takes us.

 

 

Good luck to your respective teams.

[parrot 789]

The Jets looked really good, and are built for the post season. Defense / Low Turnovers / Running game.

 

I don't know about the running game thing; they were held pretty well in check until garbage/sell out time last week and less then four ypc against that Patriots d that is still a work in progress is nothing to write home about. I really thought they might run wild, especially Washington.

[kmbryant09 1]

Its so funny how whenever the Patriots do something great, or even getting lucky (yes I said it) week 1 against the Bills...all the fans live in the moment, brag about how Brady is back and the Pats can look at another undefeated season yadda yadda yadda.

 

Now when the Patriots get their sh!t handed to them, all the fans are like....let's not overreact guys, it's just week 2 out of 17, I expected a split with the Jets and still do, this doesn't change anything.

 

I hear some Pats fans giving SOME credit to the Jets, but mostly just that their DEF was solid. Someone even claimed that it was simply Wes Welker was out, Brady had one of his worst games of his career, and the Pats had a billion penalties. Well isn't that more of a sign of a mediocre team, than just a stroke of bad luck??? Especially considering they're one fumbled kick return from being 0-2.

[KSB2424 3,148]

I don't know about the running game thing; they were held pretty well in check until garbage/sell out time last week and less then four ypc against that Patriots d that is still a work in progress is nothing to write home about. I really thought they might run wild, especially Washington.

We will see, I'm not a Jets fan. However the Jets rushing attack has been pretty solid the past year and two games. Factor in that the QB ooks decent and has yet to make many mistakes (turnovers), plus what looks like a top 5 defense, and you have a team that should do well .

 

It actually reminds me of the Pittsburg team when Big Ben was a rookie.

[kostnkost 2]

Moss credits the Jets' team effort and Rex Ryan's schemes for shutting down the Patriots offense.

 

 

Nuff said......

[Dr. Octopus 0]

I don't know about the running game thing; they were held pretty well in check until garbage/sell out time last week and less then four ypc against that Patriots d that is still a work in progress is nothing to write home about. I really thought they might run wild, especially Washington.

 

In the first half the Texans did everything they could to stop the run - and Washington was still doing lreatively well, Jones not so much - daring the rookie QB to beat them. Once he started doing just that the Jets found a little more room to run. It's unfair to call it "garbage time" because the game was still close before Jones broke his first big run.

[PATSSOX 22]

Its so funny how whenever the Patriots do something great, or even getting lucky (yes I said it) week 1 against the Bills...all the fans live in the moment, brag about how Brady is back and the Pats can look at another undefeated season yadda yadda yadda.

 

Now when the Patriots get their sh!t handed to them, all the fans are like....let's not overreact guys, it's just week 2 out of 17, I expected a split with the Jets and still do, this doesn't change anything.

 

I hear some Pats fans giving SOME credit to the Jets, but mostly just that their DEF was solid. Someone even claimed that it was simply Wes Welker was out, Brady had one of his worst games of his career, and the Pats had a billion penalties. Well isn't that more of a sign of a mediocre team, than just a stroke of bad luck??? Especially considering they're one fumbled kick return from being 0-2.

 

 

any time the PATS get beat it is lucky all you should know this

 

Brady was not great in game 1 and was not very good yesterday.

 

the first two weeks of NFL season have been awful.

1-PATS should be 0-2

2-one league im 0-4

3-another league im 1-3(dam brady and moss killed me)

4-Brady is not very sharp

5-Pats lost to dam JETS after JETS talked crap and back it up

[PackYourNut 47]

Does anyone else see the window of opportunity closing? or rather SLAMMED SHUT!

 

Pats wont make the playoffs AGAIN!

[parrot 789]

In the first half the Texans did everything they could to stop the run - and Washington was still doing lreatively well, Jones not so much - daring the rookie QB to beat them. Once he started doing just that the Jets found a little more room to run. It's unfair to call it "garbage time" because the game was still close before Jones broke his first big run.

 

Yeah "garbage time" maybe wasn't the best term there, and I have to admit I'm somewhat regurgitating info I read that Jones particularly looked fairly crappy other than the couple of runs.

 

I do agree that if this team can put together even an adequate running game and keep from asking too much of Sanchez, they could be pretty dangerous.

[Thornton Melon 621]

Its so funny how whenever the Patriots do something great, or even getting lucky (yes I said it) week 1 against the Bills...all the fans live in the moment, brag about how Brady is back and the Pats can look at another undefeated season yadda yadda yadda.

 

All of them. Really???

[RLLD 4,237]

I do agree that if this team can put together even an adequate running game and keep from asking too much of Sanchez, they could be pretty dangerous.

 

I concur.

 

Once they get comfortable, and I think they are still getting their "rex legs" under them, they may very well emerge as a viable threat at playoff time.

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

From Tom Brady on the Jets dominating our O line and rattling him.

 

"Well, I wouldn't say that. There were no sacks. Anytime you throw 47 times they're going to hurry you from time to time. It's not like you're going to stand back there for 47 attempts untouched,".

 

"I think the offensive line performed well. Those guys really stepped up in the face of tough communication out there and a team that does challenge you with the blitz looks. We didn't make the plays that were there. There were a lot of yards that we left on the field. We had almost 200 yards of offense in the first half.

 

"We controlled the first half. We just didn't get the ball into the end zone when we had the opportunity. At halftime it's 9-3, if we get the ball into the end zone it's a significantly different game. That's a couple of weeks in a row that we're failing to get the ball into the end zone, so that's an issue that we're dealing with and that's something that we've got to correct."

 

I think that is a fair assessment by Tommy Boy. If the Patriots correct their GLARING mistakes than this is a much different game. Lucky for the Pats it's obvious what went wrong and now they can work on fixing the mistakes. They did go against a team that challenges with the blitz and the Patriots failed to make plays against that blitz. History has shown that Brady can adapt to the blitz and Belichick can coach against it. Jets won but the Pats did not play well.

[PackYourNut 47]

From Tom Brady on the Jets dominating our O line and rattling him.

 

"Well, I wouldn't say that. There were no sacks. Anytime you throw 47 times they're going to hurry you from time to time. It's not like you're going to stand back there for 47 attempts untouched,".

 

"I think the offensive line performed well. Those guys really stepped up in the face of tough communication out there and a team that does challenge you with the blitz looks. We didn't make the plays that were there. There were a lot of yards that we left on the field. We had almost 200 yards of offense in the first half.

 

"We controlled the first half. We just didn't get the ball into the end zone when we had the opportunity. At halftime it's 9-3, if we get the ball into the end zone it's a significantly different game. That's a couple of weeks in a row that we're failing to get the ball into the end zone, so that's an issue that we're dealing with and that's something that we've got to correct."

 

I think that is a fair assessment by Tommy Boy. If the Patriots correct their GLARING mistakes than this is a much different game. Lucky for the Pats it's obvious what went wrong and now they can work on fixing the mistakes. They did go against a team that challenges with the blitz and the Patriots failed to make plays against that blitz. History has shown that Brady can adapt to the blitz and Belichick can coach against it. Jets won but the Pats did not play well.

 

Your floundering offense is just ONE of many problems.

[parrot 789]

Its so funny how whenever the Patriots do something great, or even getting lucky (yes I said it) week 1 against the Bills...all the fans live in the moment, brag about how Brady is back and the Pats can look at another undefeated season yadda yadda yadda.

 

Now when the Patriots get their sh!t handed to them, all the fans are like....let's not overreact guys, it's just week 2 out of 17, I expected a split with the Jets and still do, this doesn't change anything.

 

I hear some Pats fans giving SOME credit to the Jets, but mostly just that their DEF was solid. Someone even claimed that it was simply Wes Welker was out, Brady had one of his worst games of his career, and the Pats had a billion penalties. Well isn't that more of a sign of a mediocre team, than just a stroke of bad luck??? Especially considering they're one fumbled kick return from being 0-2.

 

What I find funny is posters who think Pats fans should run out and slit their wrists every time the team loses a game. I think any honest fan has recognized that the Pats have some deficiencies on both sides of the ball and knew this was going to be a tough game going in. The loss is disappointing - as all losses are when you expect your team to be a contender - but it shouldn't be shocking to anyone who has been paying attention to what Ryan has been doing with the Jets. The Jets are officially a good football team now, and I believe Buffalo is a much better football team than in recent years as well. The Pats are going to have to play a lot better to win the division, and they will LOSE MORE GAMES.

[kmbryant09 1]

All of them. Really???

Im sorry, MOST OF THEM

 

Your new nickname is Mr. Literal

[kmbryant09 1]

What I find funny is posters who think Pats fans should run out and slit their wrists every time the team loses a game. I think any honest fan has recognized that the Pats have some deficiencies on both sides of the ball and knew this was going to be a tough game going in. The loss is disappointing - as all losses are when you expect your team to be a contender - but it shouldn't be shocking to anyone who has been paying attention to what Ryan has been doing with the Jets. The Jets are officially a good football team now, and I believe Buffalo is a much better football team than in recent years as well. The Pats are going to have to play a lot better to win the division, and they will LOSE MORE GAMES.

I've never said the Pats suck, or fans should go out and slit their wrist over one or two games, or their season is over. But Patriots fans just seem to be the most willing to dish out cocky comments when their team does well, and then they make the most excuses when they get embarassed

[Thornton Melon 621]

I've never said the Pats suck, or fans should go out and slit their wrist over one or two games, or their season is over. But Patriots fans just seem to be the most willing to dish out cocky comments when their team does well, and then they make the most excuses when they get embarassed

 

You're basing this on one or two posters on FFToday?

[parrot 789]

I've never said the Pats suck, or fans should go out and slit their wrist over one or two games, or their season is over. But Patriots fans just seem to be the most willing to dish out cocky comments when their team does well, and then they make the most excuses when they get embarassed

 

Embarassed? You act like they got beat by thirty. They lost a seven point game to a pretty good football team playing at home. Did you happen to see how the Jets dismantled Houston, in Houston's house, last week? The same Houston team that hung 34 on Tennessee yesterday.

 

Should Pittsburg be embarassed by losing to Chicago yesterday? What about Green Bay losing to Cincinnati? Or it it just the Pats who are supposed to be embarassed anytime they lose? I guess it's just a testament to the Pats recent dominance that certain people think the fanbase should be embarassed anytime the team actually "OMG!!!" loses a game.

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

It wasn't the trash talk that helped the Jets beat the Pats Sunday.

 

It was the chalk talk.

 

Sure, the Jets talked tons of smack going into their battle vs. New England, and who doesn't love a good ol' fashioned, violent, trash-talking rivalry?

 

But take the trash out of the equation for a minute. The real dirty work was done with some behind-the-scenes intrigue on the part of the Jets and head coach Rex Ryan.

 

This week Ryan used former Patriots QB and Tom Brady understudy Kevin O'Connell to prepare for the Pats. Team sources told FOXSports.com that Ryan took O'Connell and pretty much passed him around from coach to coach this week to give a group-by-group tutorial of New England's tendencies.

 

In fact, he was so helpful that Ryan named O'Connell team captain for today's game. That's right, a No. 3 QB as team captain.

 

And the Jets showed how good they can be with a little captain in 'em.

 

"It was just another shot across their bow," said one team source of why Ryan made the surprising move.

 

Sources said while the former Patriot QB was revealing in helping with tendencies of different players and schemes, he was most helpful in revealing the tendencies the Patriots use to adjust against different blitz packages the Jets will try to employ. Basically, he's able to say, "Hey, when you use this blitz they like to check it over here. When you use that blitz their tendency will be to use this guy, here."

 

**********

 

Congrats to the Jets but they won't have this distinct advantage next time.

[PATSSOX 22]

next up is the Falcons

 

if we do not play better we will be 1-2

[RLLD 4,237]

If they don't want to lose all they have to do is top the other team from scoring.......

[kmbryant09 1]

You're basing this on one or two posters on FFToday?

No, I live in New England, and went to school in RI @ Bryant University, where the Pats used to host their offseason practices (or something, it was before my time). So I'm surrounded by Patriots fans, not just a few homers here on FFToday.

[kmbryant09 1]

Embarassed? You act like they got beat by thirty. They lost a seven point game to a pretty good football team playing at home. Did you happen to see how the Jets dismantled Houston, in Houston's house, last week? The same Houston team that hung 34 on Tennessee yesterday.

 

Should Pittsburg be embarassed by losing to Chicago yesterday? What about Green Bay losing to Cincinnati? Or it it just the Pats who are supposed to be embarassed anytime they lose? I guess it's just a testament to the Pats recent dominance that certain people think the fanbase should be embarassed anytime the team actually "OMG!!!" loses a game.

Yeah I'll call it embarrassing for a Bill Belichick-coached team, and a Tom Brady led offense, to lose to a rookie head coach and rookie QB (who by the way, outcoached and out played BB and Brady, respectively). And when all these Pats fans on here were posting cocky comments to try and embarrass the Jets after the trash-talking debacle, yeah, I'll call this loss pretty embarrassing.

 

At least thats the word I would use to describe the look on BB's face when he couldnt even look Rex Ryan or Mark Sanchez in the eye for the post-game handshake. Typical BB

[Thornton Melon 621]

Yeah I'll call it embarrassing for a Bill Belichick-coached team, and a Tom Brady led offense, to lose to a rookie head coach and rookie QB (who by the way, outcoached and out played BB and Brady, respectively). And when all these Pats fans on here were posting cocky comments to try and embarrass the Jets after the trash-talking debacle, yeah, I'll call this loss pretty embarrassing.

 

At least thats the word I would use to describe the look on BB's face when he couldnt even look Rex Ryan or Mark Sanchez in the eye for the post-game handshake. Typical BB

 

There you go again. How many were there on here?

[mzf5c5 0]

Here's a wacky idea, maybe not everyone lives on the internet, particularly on Sundays.

 

Props to the Jets. They're playing very good football and were clearly the better team yesterday from what I saw (highlights). The Jets defense is legit. They clearly had Brady rattled and rushing, and kept Moss completely in check. If you do those things you're generally going to beat the Pats, particularly when Welker isn't on the field.

 

Don't take this wrong Parrot, but you guys are usually the first to post about a dominating game not only during but right after and have 50 post in it. So don't play the not everyone lives on the internet. Coming here and saying, I just didn't want to face the music yet, is more respectable.

 

But props for your comments! I was shocked the Jets won, but excited at the same time.

[kmbryant09 1]

There you go again. How many were there on here?

You just need to shut the fock up for everyone's good. "All of these Pats fans on here posting cocky comments" refers to......the Pats fans making cocky comments, not every Pats fan...Did you get fired today or somethin?

[Thornton Melon 621]

You just need to shut the fock up for everyone's good. "All of these Pats fans on here posting cocky comments" refers to......the Pats fans making cocky comments, not every Pats fan...Did you get fired today or somethin?

 

"All of these..." implies there were many. So how many were there?

[kmbryant09 1]

"All of these..." implies there were many. So how many were there?

You didnt fall under the category of those annoying Pats fans in this thread (except for one post), but you're rapidly climbing the charts.

 

If you'd rather teach grammar lessons, go to your local middle school and apply for a job. Otherwise, stop posting dumb focking posts that add absolutely no value to any discussion other people are having.

[PackYourNut 47]

"All of these..." implies there were many. So how many were there?

 

Too focking many!

[Thornton Melon 621]

You didnt fall under the category of those annoying Pats fans in this thread (except for one post), but you're rapidly climbing the charts.

 

If you'd rather teach grammar lessons, go to your local middle school and apply for a job. Otherwise, stop posting dumb focking posts that add absolutely no value to any discussion other people are having.

 

It ain't grammar. Stop posting hyperbolic statements that you can't back up, hero.

[kmbryant09 1]

It ain't grammar. Stop posting hyperbolic statements that you can't back up, hero.

You are ridiculous, what statement can't I back up, that there are a bunch of annoying Pats fans who can't lose with dignity?? But looooove to rub it in when their team wins?

[parrot 789]

Yeah I'll call it embarrassing for a Bill Belichick-coached team, and a Tom Brady led offense, to lose to a rookie head coach and rookie QB (who by the way, outcoached and out played BB and Brady, respectively).

 

Many teams lost to the same type of rookie tandems in the Falcons and Ravens last year, should those teams have been embarassed as well? Or is this just a deal where the Pats have set their own bar so high that they're held to a different standard than everybody else? Sanchez looks to be in the Ryan/Flacco mold as far as NFL readiness goes and has acquitted himself very well to this point, and Rex Ryan has been a well-respected defensive coach in the league for years. Yesterday was disappointing but it was not embarassing.

 

And when all these Pats fans on here were posting cocky comments to try and embarrass the Jets after the trash-talking debacle, yeah, I'll call this loss pretty embarrassing.

 

I will spot you this point. The idiots who feel the need to constantly talk out their aswholes should be embarassed and hopefully something good will come out of this and they will tone it down a notch. I doubt it though.

[Thornton Melon 621]

You are ridiculous, what statement can't I back up, that there are a bunch of annoying Pats fans who can't lose with dignity?? But looooove to rub it in when their team wins?

 

Who on here besides BirdBrainBucknerBobbyFischer?

[PATSSOX 22]

I will spot you this point. The idiots who feel the need to constantly talk out their aswholes should be embarassed and hopefully something good will come out of this and they will tone it down a notch. I doubt it though.

 

i hope your not referring to me??? i posted the original story because i thought i would be fun to talk about. and guess what i was right

[parrot 789]

i hope your not referring to me??? i posted the original story because i thought i would be fun to talk about. and guess what i was right

 

No, I'm not referring to you.

[PATSSOX 22]

No, I'm not referring to you.

 

 

 

im still saying we go 14-2 but also that my fantasy team goes 20-6. the pats have better shot at going 13-1 the rest of season than i do of going 20-2