throttlers 0 Posted December 15, 2009 Here is a scenario that I have not run into before. Our league is divided into 3 divisions of 4 teams each. Playoff teams are the 3 division winners and 3 wild card teams. This year we have 4 teams with a 7-7 record all vying for the last wildcard playoff spot. Teams A, B and C are all in the same division and team D is in a different division. Here is exactly what our constitution says about tie-breakers. "Division Tie Breakers: (1) Season record (2) Head to Head (3) Division record (4) Total points (5) Coin toss Wild Card tie breaker: Same as division tie breakers." I was not in the league when the constitution was written, but currently am the commish. Also, my team is not involved in the dispute. Here is the scenario. All teams have the same season record so we move to head to head. I won't go into all the details, but because of who beat who, head to head can't resolve it. We then move to the next tie-breaker which is division record. Teams A, B and C are all in the same division. Team D is in a separate division. Team A has a division recored of 5-1, team B 2-5, team C 1-6, team D 2-5. Clearly team A has the better division record. My question is this. Should the division record tie-breaker be used between teams in different divisions? The constitution states that wild card tie-breakers are the same as division tie-breakers. If I go by the letter of the law, team A gets the wildcard spot. However, if I say division records can't be used between teams in different divisions, then D wins in both head to head and total points. I don't know if this was written in the constitution this way intentionally or if it was an over site. Some people in the league feel that it is understood that division record is only between teams in the same division and others say we have to go with exactly what is written. I know in the NFL wild card tie-breakers, division record is only used in eliminating all but one team from the division. It isn't compared across divisions. However, we have to go by our constitution, not what the NFL does. I am leaning towards saying I have to go with the letter of the law in how the constitution is written and team A will get the wildcard spot. I will then also call for a vote to amend the constitution for the future. If this was your league, what would you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted December 16, 2009 go total points to resolve the issue once and for all! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasytool 0 Posted December 16, 2009 I think total points is a better tie-breaker. That is what I use in the leagues where I act as commissioner. The #2 tie-breaker for my leagues is Breakdown, or your record against every team, every week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted December 16, 2009 Thanks guys, but I am not looking for opinions on what is the better tie-breaker or what is a better system than ours. I am looking for specifically how to resolve this according to what the constitution currently says they are. The only real question for me here is whether or not the constitution as written is saying to use division record for wild card tie-breakers even if teams are in different divisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted December 16, 2009 I have actually run into a very similar schenario before in my league of which I am commish. Your constitution is clear and your gut instinct is correct. Division records are legit tie-breakers between division or non division-mates. Since the 1st tie-breakers (season record and head-to-head) are a dead heat, team A is the clear and uncontested wildcard contender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PATSSOX 22 Posted December 16, 2009 Wild Card tie breakers should have nothing to do with division record. 1-overall record 2-head to head 3-points 4-power ranking(if you have one) 5-overal breakdown record(what your record would be in all weeks against all teams) 6-coin toss or biggest bribe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrankRizzo 0 Posted December 16, 2009 Thanks guys, but I am not looking for opinions on what is the better tie-breaker or what is a better system than ours. I am looking for specifically how to resolve this according to what the constitution currently says they are. The only real question for me here is whether or not the constitution as written is saying to use division record for wild card tie-breakers even if teams are in different divisions. H2H was the 1st tie-breaker .. since you didn't give the actual results (except Team D would get in) then you must follow the RULES and put Team D in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasytool 0 Posted December 16, 2009 Thanks guys, but I am not looking for opinions on what is the better tie-breaker or what is a better system than ours. I am looking for specifically how to resolve this according to what the constitution currently says they are. The only real question for me here is whether or not the constitution as written is saying to use division record for wild card tie-breakers even if teams are in different divisions. OK, you said that if you go by "the letter of the law", then Team A gets in. I would go with that. And then amend the rules in the offseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrankRizzo 0 Posted December 16, 2009 I have actually run into a very similar schenario before in my league of which I am commish. Your constitution is clear and your gut instinct is correct. Division records are legit tie-breakers even between division-mates. Since the 1st tie-breakers (season record and head-to-head) are a dead heat, team A is the clear and uncontested wildcard contender. Agree on: Your constitution is clear and your gut instinct is correct. Disagree on: Since the 1st tie-breakers (season record and head-to-head) are a dead heat ... The OP posted that Team D won H2H and POINTS. If H2H is the 1st Tiebreaker (which according to the post it is) then TEAM D is in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrankRizzo 0 Posted December 16, 2009 So yes follow the rules this season. And then vote/amend next season. You don't want divisional tiebreakers for WILDCARD spots ... it's DUMB. And look into just using TOTAL POINTS as the tiebreaker (it puts the best team in, not the team that played the weakest competition). Playing H2H is FUN and LUCKY during the regular season .. but when you deal with tiebreakers go with the MATH and put the BEST team in. IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted December 16, 2009 Here is a scenario that I have not run into before. Our league is divided into 3 divisions of 4 teams each. Playoff teams are the 3 division winners and 3 wild card teams. This year we have 4 teams with a 7-7 record all vying for the last wildcard playoff spot. Teams A, B and C are all in the same division and team D is in a different division. Here is exactly what our constitution says about tie-breakers. "Division Tie Breakers: (1) Season record (2) Head to Head (3) Division record (4) Total points (5) Coin toss Wild Card tie breaker: Same as division tie breakers." I was not in the league when the constitution was written, but currently am the commish. Also, my team is not involved in the dispute. Here is the scenario. All teams have the same season record so we move to head to head. I won't go into all the details, but because of who beat who, head to head can't resolve it. We then move to the next tie-breaker which is division record. Teams A, B and C are all in the same division. Team D is in a separate division. Team A has a division recored of 5-1, team B 2-5, team C 1-6, team D 2-5. Clearly team A has the better division record. My question is this. Should the division record tie-breaker be used between teams in different divisions? The constitution states that wild card tie-breakers are the same as division tie-breakers. If I go by the letter of the law, team A gets the wildcard spot. However, if I say division records can't be used between teams in different divisions, then D wins in both head to head and total points. I don't know if this was written in the constitution this way intentionally or if it was an over site. Some people in the league feel that it is understood that division record is only between teams in the same division and others say we have to go with exactly what is written. I know in the NFL wild card tie-breakers, division record is only used in eliminating all but one team from the division. It isn't compared across divisions. However, we have to go by our constitution, not what the NFL does. I am leaning towards saying I have to go with the letter of the law in how the constitution is written and team A will get the wildcard spot. I will then also call for a vote to amend the constitution for the future. If this was your league, what would you do? Head to head can resolve it. You take all four teams add up their wins and losses vs one another and the team with the best winning % is in. Simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrankRizzo 0 Posted December 16, 2009 "Division/Wildcard Tie Breakers: (1) Season record (2) Head to Head (3) Division record (4) Total points (5) Coin toss Wild Card tie breaker: Same as division tie breakers." Team A has a division recored of 5-1, team B 2-5, team C 1-6, team D 2-5. Clearly team A has the better division record. My question is this. Should the division record tie-breaker be used between teams in different divisions? The constitution states that wild card tie-breakers are the same as division tie-breakers. If I go by the letter of the law, team A gets the wildcard spot. However, if I say division records can't be used between teams in different divisions, then D wins in both head to head and total points. Am I missing something??? You say Team D wins in H2H ... if that is the case wouldn't you use the #2 Tiebreaker (H2H) before the #3 (Division Record)??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted December 16, 2009 In head to head A beats B and C but loses to D B beats C and D but loses to A C loses to A and D and splits with B D Beats A and C but loses to B. The only clear thing in head to head is that C is out. I should note that A beat B and C both twice since they are in the same division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted December 16, 2009 Agree on:Your constitution is clear and your gut instinct is correct. Disagree on: Since the 1st tie-breakers (season record and head-to-head) are a dead heat ... The OP posted that Team D won H2H and POINTS. If H2H is the 1st Tiebreaker (which according to the post it is) then TEAM D is in. I agree with this. Unless the team in the same division played one another more than the team in the other division. That would make the HTH records NULL, as it's not a valid way to compare HTH. In that case you would go with TEAM A who had the better division record. Also agree that you should amend your rules going into next season. Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrankRizzo 0 Posted December 16, 2009 In head to head A beats B and C but loses to D B beats C and D but loses to A C loses to A and D and splits with B D Beats A and C but loses to B. The only clear thing in head to head is that C is out. I should note that A beat B and C both twice since they are in the same division. EDIT: A = 4-1 ( BBCC-D ) B = 2-3 ( CD-AAC ) C = 1-4 ( B-AABD) D = 2-1 ( AC-B ) Can you really use H2H when they don't play the same amount of games?? Not sure, we don't use this method. But either way C is out based on first tiebreaker (H2H) Then do it again (take out C games)..... A = 2-1 ( BB-D ) B = 1-2 ( D-AA ) D = 1-1 ( A-B ) Take B out. Do it again (take B games out) ...... A = ( 0-1 ) D = ( 1-0 ) TEAM D WINS!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted December 16, 2009 Am I missing something??? You say Team D wins in H2H ... if that is the case wouldn't you use the #2 Tiebreaker (H2H) before the #3 (Division Record)??? This is correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,615 Posted December 16, 2009 The way the NFL does it is, if one team has a better win/loss percentage against the teams he's tied against, that team would win. If two teams had the same win/loss percentage head-to-head, the other two teams are eliminated and you would go back to step 1 of the tiebreaker rules with just the two remaining teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,615 Posted December 16, 2009 A = 2-1B = 2-1 C = 0-2-1 D = 2-1 So you lied .. D does not win H2H ... he is tied with A and B C is out based on first tiebreaker (H2H) Then do it again (take out C games)..... A = 1-1 B = 1-1 D = 1-1 All tied ... so you go to the next one which is #3 Divisional Record TEAM A GETS IN This is what I was trying to say. This is the correct implementation of the tiebreak rules. I'm not sure if the records are correct however. There seems to be conflicting info. Actually, I know the records are wrong. How can only one team tie in a head to head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrankRizzo 0 Posted December 16, 2009 This is what I was trying to say. This is the correct implementation of the tiebreak rules. I'm not sure if the records are correct however. There seems to be conflicting info. Actually, I know the records are wrong. How can only one team tie in a head to head. You are right .. I figured out what he meant with his last statement about Team A beating BC 2x .. and BC splitting. I edited my post ... TEAM D actually wins it. I really really hate the H2H as a tiebreaker, for so many reasons, I get fantasy leagues trying to mimic the NFL but fantasy teams are different than real NFL teams .. when an NFL team has a bye, the WHOLE team has a bye and is not effected .. but when a fantasy team has a bye (which they do over 6 weeks) it decimates teams along the way and to pick a certain game of H2H that was effected by bye weeks makes absolutely ZERO sense to me. IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,615 Posted December 16, 2009 In head to head A beats B and C but loses to D B beats C and D but loses to A C loses to A and D and splits with B D Beats A and C but loses to B. The only clear thing in head to head is that C is out. I should note that A beat B and C both twice since they are in the same division. These results don't make sense B beats C and but loses to A C loses to A and D and splits with B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,615 Posted December 16, 2009 You are right .. I figured out what he meant with his last statement about Team A beating BC 2x .. and BC splitting.I edited my post ... TEAM D actually wins it. nevermind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrankRizzo 0 Posted December 16, 2009 These results don't make sense B beats C and but loses to A C loses to A and D and splits with B You need to read his last statement about being in the same division. Team A beat B and C TWO TIMES ... and B and C split 1-1 (ABC same division) Here is the breakdown H2H: A = 4-1 ( BBCC-D ) B = 2-3 ( CD-AAC ) C = 1-4 ( B-AABD) D = 2-1 ( AC-B ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,615 Posted December 16, 2009 EDIT: A = 4-1 ( BBCC-D ) B = 2-3 ( CD-AAC ) C = 1-4 ( B-AABD) D = 2-1 ( AC-B ) Assuming these records are correct, I claim A gets in for having the best win percentage. Team A 80% Team B 40% Team C 20% Team D 66% That's the way the NFL does it. http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures Three or More Clubs(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format). Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,615 Posted December 16, 2009 You need to read his last statement about being in the same division.Team A beat B and C TWO TIMES ... and B and C split 1-1 (ABC same division) Here is the breakdown H2H: A = 4-1 ( BBCC-D ) B = 2-3 ( CD-AAC ) C = 1-4 ( B-AABD) D = 2-1 ( AC-B ) I'm with you. This is like trying to solve the Divinci Code. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrankRizzo 0 Posted December 16, 2009 Assuming these records are correct, I claim A gets in for having the best win percentage. Team A 80% Team B 40% Team C 20% Team D 66% That's the way the NFL does it. http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures Not sure if it's that simple though ... don't you have to eliminate when you have 3 or more clubs? A = 4-1 ( BBCC-D ) B = 2-3 ( CD-AAC ) C = 1-4 ( B-AABD) D = 2-1 ( AC-B ) C is out. Then do it again (take out C games)..... A = 2-1 ( BB-D ) B = 1-2 ( D-AA ) D = 1-1 ( A-B ) Take B out. Do it again (take B games out) ...... A = ( 0-1 ) D = ( 1-0 ) TEAM D WINS right? Again, I'm not 100% sure because we don't use this method but this is what I believe is correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,615 Posted December 16, 2009 I'm not sure which way is correct. The NFL tibreaker implies that you can eliminate 1 or more teams at a time, so I'm going with the simple way is the right way for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 63 Posted December 16, 2009 Probably too late, but common sense tells you that you skip the division tie-breaker. The NFL only uses the division tie-breaker if all the teams in the tie are in the same division. Since you're looking for one spot, it would come down to total points. Team with the highest total points wins the tie-breaker. The only way that applies is if you're ranking more than one team. THEN, if Team D is taken out of the tie-breaker scenario, then the division record becomes a viable tie-breaker. If D had been swept by the three teams, you could contend for the division record. But that cannot apply; in fact, it would be LESS fair to use division record, as I'm willing to bet that D has a better record against the other three than teams A, B, C. D has won at least one game against them, and odds are that the team has won two games against them. That would be tied with the best head-to-head record among them, so if I'm team D, and get bumped by division record, I'm fuming, and justifiably so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 63 Posted December 16, 2009 if I say division records can't be used between teams in different divisions, then D wins in both head to head Um . . . did I miss something? Isn't this the first tie-breaker? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 63 Posted December 16, 2009 I'm not sure which way is correct. The NFL tibreaker implies that you can eliminate 1 or more teams at a time, so I'm going with the simple way is the right way for now. The NFL works on a sweep method (as do we). If a team in a 3-way (or more) tiebreaker has swept the other teams, or has been swept by the other teams, then the tie-breaker applies and that team is out (up or down). If not, they move on (div. record or conference record). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Houston Texans 10 Posted December 16, 2009 Here is a scenario that I have not run into before. Our league is divided into 3 divisions of 4 teams each. Playoff teams are the 3 division winners and 3 wild card teams. This year we have 4 teams with a 7-7 record all vying for the last wildcard playoff spot. Teams A, B and C are all in the same division and team D is in a different division. Here is exactly what our constitution says about tie-breakers. "Division Tie Breakers: (1) Season record (2) Head to Head (3) Division record (4) Total points (5) Coin toss Wild Card tie breaker: Same as division tie breakers." I was not in the league when the constitution was written, but currently am the commish. Also, my team is not involved in the dispute. Here is the scenario. All teams have the same season record so we move to head to head. I won't go into all the details, but because of who beat who, head to head can't resolve it. We then move to the next tie-breaker which is division record. Teams A, B and C are all in the same division. Team D is in a separate division. Team A has a division recored of 5-1, team B 2-5, team C 1-6, team D 2-5. Clearly team A has the better division record. My question is this. Should the division record tie-breaker be used between teams in different divisions? The constitution states that wild card tie-breakers are the same as division tie-breakers. If I go by the letter of the law, team A gets the wildcard spot. However, if I say division records can't be used between teams in different divisions, then D wins in both head to head and total points. I don't know if this was written in the constitution this way intentionally or if it was an over site. Some people in the league feel that it is understood that division record is only between teams in the same division and others say we have to go with exactly what is written. I know in the NFL wild card tie-breakers, division record is only used in eliminating all but one team from the division. It isn't compared across divisions. However, we have to go by our constitution, not what the NFL does. I am leaning towards saying I have to go with the letter of the law in how the constitution is written and team A will get the wildcard spot. I will then also call for a vote to amend the constitution for the future. If this was your league, what would you do? If the bolded portion is correct, then why are you even worrying about division record? If Team D wins the head-to-head tiebreaker, then they get in, right? If Team D (& no other team) wins the head-to-head tiebreaker, then you have to go with division record. It's not really fair to have division record break a tie from teams in different division, but that's the way your rule is written. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanil 520 Posted December 16, 2009 I agree with this. Unless the team in the same division played one another more than the team in the other division. That would make the HTH records NULL, as it's not a valid way to compare HTH. In that case you would go with TEAM A who had the better division record. Also agree that you should amend your rules going into next season. Good luck! It sucks that it had to come down to this but this is the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,643 Posted December 16, 2009 You break the division tie first, so get the winner from Teams A/B/C... Then compare with team D and there is your winner... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew's Berry's 0 Posted December 16, 2009 You break the division tie first, so get the winner from Teams A/B/C... Then compare with team D and there is your winner... to break a divisional tie per his rules: #1 Season record (tied) #2 H2H (Team A dominated 4-0 vs B/C) and continues. Then Team A vs Team D #1 Season record (tied) #2 H2H (Team D beat Team A) TEAM D is in. I still think it's a shitty way to break ties .... using one game that could of been during byeweeks as the barometer instead of using the WHOLE season point total. Ever since we switched to points as the tiebreaker it's been a blessing .. easy and everyone agrees they are the better and most deserving team to go into the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted December 16, 2009 First off, perhaps I'm stupid or perhaps i'm the only one really paying attention....I'm assuming it's a typo that Team A has a division record of 5-1 (6 games) where Team B (2-5), Team C (1-6) and Team D (2-5) all play 7 games??? In a division of 4 team, all teams should play the same # of games vs division foes, six. In a 14 game season, you would play each division opponent 2 times (6 total) and everybody else 1 time (8 total) for 14 games. Am i missing something trying to see why 3 of the teams have 7 division games??? If that's not the case, this is REALLY screwed up. Please explain that first Throttlers Next, it would be helpful to know what the other team in the division with A, B and C ended with, overall record wise and division wise and the breakdown of the head to heads in that division and Team D vs A, B and C. We can assume they have the better overall record, but I'm curious about the division records. For simplicity sake, call the team that finished 1st in the division "Team X". Let's assume: Team Rec DivRec Beat Lost VsTeamD Team X 10-4 5-1 ? ABBCC A W Team A Team B Team C Something like that might help. Thanks!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted December 16, 2009 Ok, I'm assuming that head to head can't solve it because although Team D beat Team A head-to-head, it lost to some combination of Team B and Team C. Obviously a rule change right now won't fly, because nobody is going to vote for a rule that doesn't benefit them. My initial thought was to apply them like they were in the same division, count up their records vs each other, and let the one that has the best winning % against the other 3 teams be the last wildcard, but that would more than likely favor Team D, who likely only had to play A, B and C one time each. However, a suggested, it's the "fairest" way. Division records don't matter, you have to solve the head to head first. Find head to head total vs each other, best team gets in. I'm not sure I agree with the elimination portion mentioned earlier, i think whoever has the best winning % vs the other teams in the mix gets in, end of story. This is the only way to do HTH for wildcards. C'mon guys this isn't rocket science. Geez. Plus go over the fockin rules in August. ITSATIP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted December 16, 2009 This is the only way to do HTH for wildcards. C'mon guys this isn't rocket science. Geez. Plus go over the fockin rules in August. ITSATIP! wow, you caught it before i finished editing it. i agree it's poor planning, but needs to band-aided before they fix it in the offseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted December 16, 2009 First off, perhaps I'm stupid or perhaps i'm the only one really paying attention....I'm assuming it's a typo that Team A has a division record of 5-1 (6 games) where Team B (2-5), Team C (1-6) and Team D (2-5) all play 7 games??? In a division of 4 team, all teams should play the same # of games vs division foes, six. In a 14 game season, you would play each division opponent 2 times (6 total) and everybody else 1 time (8 total) for 14 games. Am i missing something trying to see why 3 of the teams have 7 division games??? If that's not the case, this is REALLY screwed up. Please explain that first Throttlers Next, it would be helpful to know what the other team in the division with A, B and C ended with, overall record wise and division wise and the breakdown of the head to heads in that division and Team D vs A, B and C. We can assume they have the better overall record, but I'm curious about the division records. For simplicity sake, call the team that finished 1st in the division "Team X". Let's assume: Team Rec DivRec Beat Lost VsTeamD Team X 10-4 5-1 ? ABBCC A W Team A Team B Team C Something like that might help. Thanks!!! Throttlers, post this, if you can... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 63 Posted December 17, 2009 First off, perhaps I'm stupid or perhaps i'm the only one really paying attention....I'm assuming it's a typo that Team A has a division record of 5-1 (6 games) where Team B (2-5), Team C (1-6) and Team D (2-5) all play 7 games??? In a division of 4 team, all teams should play the same # of games vs division foes, six. In a 14 game season, you would play each division opponent 2 times (6 total) and everybody else 1 time (8 total) for 14 games. Am i missing something trying to see why 3 of the teams have 7 division games??? If that's not the case, this is REALLY screwed up. Please explain that first Throttlers Next, it would be helpful to know what the other team in the division with A, B and C ended with, overall record wise and division wise and the breakdown of the head to heads in that division and Team D vs A, B and C. We can assume they have the better overall record, but I'm curious about the division records. For simplicity sake, call the team that finished 1st in the division "Team X". Let's assume: Team Rec DivRec Beat Lost VsTeamD Team X 10-4 5-1 ? ABBCC A W Team A Team B Team C Something like that might help. Thanks!!! Actually, working head-to-head as a percentage is very much not fair. Sorry to be argumentative, but think about what you're saying. In the current scenario, A has the best winning percentage. However, that team obviously was having its way with teams B & C, and you could argue that they had the opportunity to "pad" their percentage by playing them multiple times. Regardless, it wasn't clean, because A then lost to D - which didn't have the opportunity to pad against weaker division opponents (theoretically), but D turned around and lost to B or C. Sooooo . . . Do it the NFL way. Head-to-head only works with a sweep. ONLY a team who wins all those head-to-head games, or loses all those head-to-head games is taken out of the tie. This is not complicated, folks. This tie-breaker ought to be decided at the total points option, and even in your "letter of the law", COMMISSIONER, you have the right to understand the spirit in which it was written. Most tie-breaker options are chosen by name, and those grabbed verbatim from the NFL's "titles" for said tie-breakers. If you grasp at the division record tie-breaker to put Team A in, it will absolutely look like you're working angles. Use some common sense, folks. There is no justification for turning off your brains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hastyhitman 0 Posted December 17, 2009 In our League things have ben set in stone for over ten years, Ten teams, two divisions of five, Win your division you get the bye in week 14, SECOND PLACE IN THE DIVISIONS NO MATTER WHAT YOUR RECORD IS PLAYS 3RD PLACE IN EACH DIVISION. ALL YEAR LONG OUR GUYS KNOW THEY BETTER MAKE 1ST SECOND AND 3RD NO MATTER WHAT YOUR RECORD IS OR YOU ASS IS SITTING HOME FOR THE PLAYOFFS.......... PERIOD ! SCHEDULE THIS YEARS SCHEDULE WILL CONSIST OF A TEN TEAM LEAGUE, TWO DIVISIONS OF FIVE TEAMS EACH. WE WILL BE PLAYING A 13 WEEK REGULAR SEASON SCHEDULE WITH WEEKS 14 THROUGH 16 BEING PLAYOFF WEEKS. WEEK 14 WILL CONSIST OF THE 2ND AND THIRD PLACE TEAMS PLAYING EACH OTHER WHILE DIVISION WINNERS FROM THE REGULAR SEASON WILL BE REWARDED WITH 1ST ROUND BYE WEEKS. WEEK 16 WILL BE THIS YEARS SUPER BOWL AND RUNNER UP BOWL.. THANK YOU! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hastyhitman 0 Posted December 17, 2009 As for points and ties these rules also have ben around for over ten years.. TIEBREAKER RULES AT THE END OF THE REGULAR SEASON IF TWO OR MORE TEAMS ARE TIED WITH THE SAME RECORD THESE RULES WILL APPLY TO MAKE IT INTO THE PLAYOFFS. 1. BEST WIN-LOSS RECORD 2. MOST POINTS SCORED DURING REGULAR SEASON. (THERE IS A REASON FOR PUTTING MOST POINTS SCORED AS A TIEBREAKER BEFORE HEAD-TO-HEAD COMPETITION.) ANY FANTASY TEAM COULD GET LUCKY DURING THE SEASON AND HAVE A GOOD GAME AGAISNT A GOOD TEAM. THE TRUE TEST OF A GOOD TEAM IS HOW IT FARES THROUGHT THE ENITIRE SEASON. THIS IS A BETTER REFLECTED BY A COMPARISON OF THE POINTS SCORED DURING THE ENTIRE SEASON. 3. HEAD-TO-HEAD COMPETITION 4. BEST CONFERENCE RECORD PLAYOFF TIES IF TWO FANTASY TEAMS TIE DURING THE PLAYOFFS THE SAME RULES MENTIONED ABOVE WILL GO INTO EFFECT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites