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rail thin @ 11%??? Something was wrong with how you were measured, or you didn't have much in the way of lean muscle mass. I don't know of another explanation. How were you measured? Caliper, or submerged?

 

I lost 23 lbs in a little less then 2 months...my body fat was crazy low.

 

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I lost 23 lbs in a little less then 2 months...my body fat was crazy low.

 

Caliper

 

Calipers are insanely inaccurate, from what I've heard. I'll bet you were much lower than you think you were. Donald Driver maintains between 3.8% and 5% body fat, and he says that the only good way to measure your BMI is through full submersion.

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Granted there is some "give" in the caliper measurement, still 9% puts you pretty fockin' lean.

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Granted there is some "give" in the caliper measurement, still 9% puts you pretty fockin' lean.

 

The other thing is that losing water ≠ losing fat. If you lose weight very quickly, most of it is water.

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Calipers are insanely inaccurate, from what I've heard. I'll bet you were much lower than you think you were. Donald Driver maintains between 3.8% and 5% body fat, and he says that the only good way to measure your BMI is through full submersion.

 

Thats what I am saying though. That dude is a professional athlete rolling in at 5% and you are at 9%...that is crazy low.

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The other thing is that losing water ≠ losing fat. If you lose weight very quickly, most of it is water.

 

More power to you if 9% is where you are.

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Thats what I am saying though. That dude is a professional athlete rolling in at 5% and you are at 9%...that is crazy low.

 

:dunno: It's about diet, and maybe genetics, I guess. I was extremely lean all the way up to my 30's, and then I slowly gained about 50 pounds over 8 years. I decided I didn't like how I looked enough, so I stopped eating processed foods, and started eating the right things. I can tell you that grass-fed beef had the most dramatic effect on me. Natural animal fats high in Omegas become a fat-burning engine in your body. Sounds counter-intuitive, but the science behind it explained why, and it has worked.

 

My wife has had a 6 pack for 20 years because of her diet; she finally got me to stop eating the stuff I used to, and it has worked incredibly well. I'm a believer; I just don't want to regress - and I worry that getting older is going to make it tough to maintain where I am right now.

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:dunno: It's about diet, and maybe genetics, I guess. I was extremely lean all the way up to my 30's, and then I slowly gained about 50 pounds over 8 years. I decided I didn't like how I looked enough, so I stopped eating processed foods, and started eating the right things. I can tell you that grass-fed beef had the most dramatic effect on me. Natural animal fats high in Omegas become a fat-burning engine in your body. Sounds counter-intuitive, but the science behind it explained why, and it has worked.

 

My wife has had a 6 pack for 20 years because of her diet; she finally got me to stop eating the stuff I used to, and it has worked incredibly well. I'm a believer; I just don't want to regress - and I worry that getting older is going to make it tough to maintain where I am right now.

 

Good for you, brutha!:cheers:

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You're a liberal. Who's surprised? :dunno:

 

I don't dislike you because you're conservative. I dislike you because you're a d0uche and a windbag.

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I don't dislike you because you're conservative. I dislike you because you're a d0uche and a windbag.

He said the same thing about me. Must be a defense mechanism to deal with all the folks that can't stand his know-it-all, condescending personality. Instead of coming to terms that he's just an inlikeable tool, he brushes it off as a political thing. Probably helps him sleep at night.

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I dont care abour the polutical crap in this thread but i dobt believe the 9% claim either. 9% would put you in 4 pack territory. 9% is lean as hell. I doubt driver ever reaches 3% bf. That is unhealthy low. Im not hating. You can be the fittesy guy here. 12% is still damn good. But you are not 9% with casual eating habbit changes and p90x.

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I dont care abour the polutical crap in this thread but i dobt believe the 9% claim either. 9% would put you in 4 pack territory. 9% is lean as hell. I doubt driver ever reaches 3% bf. That is unhealthy low. Im not hating. You can be the fittesy guy here. 12% is still damn good. But you are not 9% with casual eating habbit changes and p90x.

If he's 9%, he'll put his money where his mouth is. If you notice, the picture everyone has seen is about 20%+ bodyfat. Conveniently, Mensa claims it's a 'before' picture. Well, if you're posting chubby pictures, why wouldn't you post one when you're a ripped, physical speciman? ROFL

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If he's 9%, he'll put his money where his mouth is. If you notice, the picture everyone has seen is about 20%+ bodyfat. Conveniently, Mensa claims it's a 'before' picture. Well, if you're posting chubby pictures, why wouldn't you post one when you're a ripped, physical speciman? ROFL

Because my cack is still sore from spanking it to Surfer's pics. Mensa is just being considerate. :wub:

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I doubt driver ever reaches 3% bf. That is unhealthy low. Im not hating.

 

I have read that he is 3 percent several different times.... although the last two times it was in www.thedonalddrivertimes.com and Maritime Sentry :thumbsup:

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Mesna. Please report to the I almost got bit by a rattlesnake thread so you can see what Medstudent was talking about earlier when he was talking about the geek you are most like.

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Calipers are insanely inaccurate, from what I've heard. I'll bet you were much lower than you think you were. Donald Driver maintains between 3.8% and 5% body fat, and he says that the only good way to measure your BMI is through full submersion.

 

I'm sure Donald Driver is one of the leanest guys in the country. He is a physical specimen on leanness. But I have a problem when he says 3.8% body mass. Even the immersion test is only accurate to 1%. So, he should be calling that 4%. Another thing is that the immersion test is still based on formulas that make assumptions on bone density. Athletes have been found to usually higher bone density so therefore their fat content is often underestimated.

 

Next time you see Donald Driver tell him there is a more accurate test. I forget what its called but its done with 2 xrays. One absorbs the fat and the other does not. Then they subtract one from the other. Its the most accurate test out there although its pretty new.

 

3% is usually considered the absolute minimum for health. Males have 1-3% essential fats. Females are higher. I believe athletes are usually in the 6%-15% range. Some of those bodybuilders get in the really dangerous zones for competition.

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Mesna. Please report to the I almost got bit by a rattlesnake thread so you can see what Medstudent was talking about earlier when he was talking about the geek you are most like.

 

:lol:

 

Giants Fan talks to himself. You've chosen not to accept him, which is why he keeps posting without responses. He's hoping someone will take an interest, so that an exchange will take place. He is your bored whipping boy, and now I am an alias which is meant to take pressure off of him, and others like him. I shared information about me what I believe that some have found interesting, and others attack.

 

Oh - hold on - did you do a double take there? Yeah - that's how easy you all are to manipulate, with your leftist clique (not you, Elevator; you seem separate, and not at all like the others). I'm my own person, morons - this is not an alias - but there is no doubt that I am taking pressure off of him and others you bash, by redirecting the focus. It's intentional.

 

Dentist, you rancid focktard, the picture of me with Najeh Davenport is from 2005, as you'd see on the timestamp if you weren't too dense to notice. That you have trouble landing even a marginal looking dyke, much less a man of my caliber, is not lost on me. I had already posted - before posting that picture - that my transformation from 18% to 9% happened after that. I also already did post pictures of me recently, you angry and vile tw@t. My face is much leaner in the pictures, but you're too busy trying to stamp out that which threatens your paradigms to even notice.

 

What I've accomplished in such a short time on this forum is simply incredible. I've managed to make myself so much a focus of the hatred of leftists simply by posting facts about me, my life and my beliefs that they cannot help but read what I write! Excellent; things have gone exactly as planned for you. Liberals are so incredibly easy to manipulate, because I know you so very well.

 

Pay attention, focktards: you're going to get the medicine of Conservativism shoved down your throat, like your mom did to you when you were young, and you're going to do it to yourselves. You won't be able to help yourselves; you are compelled to read what I write, as a moth is drawn to a flame.

 

Or, you'll grow a sac and actually ignore me. Either way, it's a win - but we all know you won't ignore what I write. :first:

 

The problem with liberals isn't that they're ignorant; it's that they know so much which isn't so.

 

:lol:

 

And know this, low-lifes - and admit the truth to yourselves:

 

If I hadn't actually posted pictures of my home project and my SUV project; my pictures with Donald Driver - with whom I have been friends for 9 years - you would've said that that's all bullsh!t too! How small you all are - how insecure! You're threatened by someone who has accomplished many things, and has loads of talent that has been put to work, and you're faced with proof of it, and you just cannot abide. You try to attack the one thing left that you think you can, using an old picture that you're too stupid to see is old - or you willfully propagate the false impression that that picture is somehow supposed to be recent.

 

Really a pathetic expose on the state of a liberal, that you must react with such hatred. I gave you all every chance, not reacting to the instant and continuous insults; just putting forth my opinions, but - true to your makeup - you prove yourself no different than any other leftist found on any other website. You're all this way; all vile and nasty human beings who cannot tolerate those with a different belief system who can express it logically, and - apparently - irrefutably.

 

I'm going lay it on even thicker now, and tell you more truth about my accomplishments and exceptionalism, because it gets you even more bent:

 

I GC'd my home, even though I'm not a contractor. I designed it myself and drew the working blueprints by hand on vellum, even though I'm not an architect. I have a PEX tube hydronic heating system in my home, which I designed and installed myself (with no training, biatches). I've played piano since I've been 5, and play by ear and compose, even though I've never taken music lessons. I've won national awards for sales, and was self-taught. I used to bike ~300 miles a week. I could be a professional billiards player if I wanted to be. And I almost never make typographical or grammatical errors. I taught myself the skills I possess - like laying tile and doing bodywork/painting on cars, because I can.

 

You like apples? How about 'dem apples, motherfockers? Chuck Norris calls me to pound liberals. The world's most interesting man is simply a stand-in! :first:

 

Can you do these things? Any of these things? No, you clearly can't...but you have to try the next best thing though, right? Which is tear down someone else who can.

 

You're skank-@ss stoopid liberals who have accomplished little to express, and I now have you on the force-fed Conservative feeding trough, and you will take your medicine by choice.

 

Liberalism robs people of the conviction that they can accomplish anything; that they actually need Government, and other people, to accomplish greatness. Once robbed of their own true potential, the Liberal becomes devoted to ensure that no one else succeeds to a level beyond their mediocre stature either. What I did I have done on my own, fockers. You can too, but you're too locked into a failed belief system that demands that everyone around be equal to you.

 

Or below you - which is where you try to put anyone and anything which threatens you.

 

Proof is manifest right here. Instead of commending and trying to learn something from someone who just may have figured out and accomplished things you haven't, you attack. How low and small of you. How liberal of you.

 

Carry on; I'll continue laughing at the hornet's nest which has been stirred, while you continue to pay attention to what I write. I doubt it has even occurred to you that I decided to do this intentionally - without exaggerating in the slightest - just to fock with you idiots.

 

Nope. :music_guitarred:

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:lol:

 

Giants Fan talks to himself. You've chosen not to accept him, which is why he keeps posting without responses. He's hoping someone will take an interest, so that an exchange will take place. He is your bored whipping boy, and now I am an alias which is meant to take pressure off of him, and others like him. I shared information about me what I believe that some have found interesting, and others attack.

 

Oh - hold on - did you do a double take there? Yeah - that's how easy you all are to manipulate, with your leftist clique (not you, Elevator; you seem separate, and not at all like the others). I'm my own person, morons - this is not an alias - but there is no doubt that I am taking pressure off of him and others you bash, by redirecting the focus. It's intentional.

 

Dentist, you rancid focktard, the picture of me with Najeh Davenport is from 2005, as you'd see on the timestamp if you weren't too dense to notice. That you have trouble landing even a marginal looking dyke, much less a man of my caliber, is not lost on me. I had already posted - before posting that picture - that my transformation from 18% to 9% happened after that. I also already did post pictures of me recently, you angry and vile tw@t. My face is much leaner in the pictures, but you're too busy trying to stamp out that which threatens your paradigms to even notice.

 

What I've accomplished in such a short time on this forum is simply incredible. I've managed to make myself so much a focus of the hatred of leftists simply by posting facts about me, my life and my beliefs that they cannot help but read what I write! Excellent; things have gone exactly as planned for you. Liberals are so incredibly easy to manipulate, because I know you so very well.

 

Pay attention, focktards: you're going to get the medicine of Conservativism shoved down your throat, like your mom did to you when you were young, and you're going to do it to yourselves. You won't be able to help yourselves; you are compelled to read what I write, as a moth is drawn to a flame.

 

Or, you'll grow a sac and actually ignore me. Either way, it's a win - but we all know you won't ignore what I write. :first:

 

The problem with liberals isn't that they're ignorant; it's that they know so much which isn't so.

 

:lol:

 

And know this, low-lifes - and admit the truth to yourselves:

 

If I hadn't actually posted pictures of my home project and my SUV project; my pictures with Donald Driver - with whom I have been friends for 9 years - you would've said that that's all bullsh!t too! How small you all are - how insecure! You're threatened by someone who has accomplished many things, and has loads of talent that has been put to work, and you're faced with proof of it, and you just cannot abide. You try to attack the one thing left that you think you can, using an old picture that you're too stupid to see is old - or you willfully propagate the false impression that that picture is somehow supposed to be recent.

 

Really a pathetic expose on the state of a liberal, that you must react with such hatred. I gave you all every chance, not reacting to the instant and continuous insults; just putting forth my opinions, but - true to your makeup - you prove yourself no different than any other leftist found on any other website. You're all this way; all vile and nasty human beings who cannot tolerate those with a different belief system who can express it logically, and - apparently - irrefutably.

 

I'm going lay it on even thicker now, and tell you more truth about my accomplishments and exceptionalism, because it gets you even more bent:

 

I GC'd my home, even though I'm not a contractor. I designed it myself and drew the working blueprints by hand on vellum, even though I'm not an architect. I have a PEX tube hydronic heating system in my home, which I designed and installed myself (with no training, biatches). I've played piano since I've been 5, and play by ear and compose, even though I've never taken music lessons. I've won national awards for sales, and was self-taught. I used to bike ~300 miles a week. I could be a professional billiards player if I wanted to be. And I almost never make typographical or grammatical errors. I taught myself the skills I possess - like laying tile and doing bodywork/painting on cars, because I can.

 

You like apples? How about 'dem apples, motherfockers? Chuck Norris calls me to pound liberals. The world's most interesting man is simply a stand-in! :first:

 

Can you do these things? Any of these things? No, you clearly can't...but you have to try the next best thing though, right? Which is tear down someone else who can.

 

You're skank-@ss stoopid liberals who have accomplished little to express, and I now have you on the force-fed Conservative feeding trough, and you will take your medicine by choice.

 

Liberalism robs people of the conviction that they can accomplish anything; that they actually need Government, and other people, to accomplish greatness. Once robbed of their own true potential, the Liberal becomes devoted to ensure that no one else succeeds to a level beyond their mediocre stature either. What I did I have done on my own, fockers. You can too, but you're too locked into a failed belief system that demands that everyone around be equal to you.

 

Or below you - which is where you try to put anyone and anything which threatens you.

 

Proof is manifest right here. Instead of commending and trying to learn something from someone who just may have figured out and accomplished things you haven't, you attack. How low and small of you. How liberal of you.

 

Carry on; I'll continue laughing at the hornet's nest which has been stirred, while you continue to pay attention to what I write. I doubt it has even occurred to you that I decided to do this intentionally - without exaggerating in the slightest - just to fock with you idiots.

 

Nope. :music_guitarred:

 

Jumping Muhammad on a pogo stick. With a few adjustments, this reads like a speech Obama would orate.

 

Many people don't take things so seriously around here. It is a tip.

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:lol:

 

Giants Fan talks to himself. You've chosen not to accept him, which is why he keeps posting without responses. He's hoping someone will take an interest, so that an exchange will take place. He is your bored whipping boy, and now I am an alias which is meant to take pressure off of him, and others like him. I shared information about me what I believe that some have found interesting, and others attack.

 

Oh - hold on - did you do a double take there? Yeah - that's how easy you all are to manipulate, with your leftist clique (not you, Elevator; you seem separate, and not at all like the others). I'm my own person, morons - this is not an alias - but there is no doubt that I am taking pressure off of him and others you bash, by redirecting the focus. It's intentional.

 

Dentist, you rancid focktard, the picture of me with Najeh Davenport is from 2005, as you'd see on the timestamp if you weren't too dense to notice. That you have trouble landing even a marginal looking dyke, much less a man of my caliber, is not lost on me. I had already posted - before posting that picture - that my transformation from 18% to 9% happened after that. I also already did post pictures of me recently, you angry and vile tw@t. My face is much leaner in the pictures, but you're too busy trying to stamp out that which threatens your paradigms to even notice.

 

What I've accomplished in such a short time on this forum is simply incredible. I've managed to make myself so much a focus of the hatred of leftists simply by posting facts about me, my life and my beliefs that they cannot help but read what I write! Excellent; things have gone exactly as planned for you. Liberals are so incredibly easy to manipulate, because I know you so very well.

 

Pay attention, focktards: you're going to get the medicine of Conservativism shoved down your throat, like your mom did to you when you were young, and you're going to do it to yourselves. You won't be able to help yourselves; you are compelled to read what I write, as a moth is drawn to a flame.

 

Or, you'll grow a sac and actually ignore me. Either way, it's a win - but we all know you won't ignore what I write. :first:

 

The problem with liberals isn't that they're ignorant; it's that they know so much which isn't so.

 

:lol:

 

And know this, low-lifes - and admit the truth to yourselves:

 

If I hadn't actually posted pictures of my home project and my SUV project; my pictures with Donald Driver - with whom I have been friends for 9 years - you would've said that that's all bullsh!t too! How small you all are - how insecure! You're threatened by someone who has accomplished many things, and has loads of talent that has been put to work, and you're faced with proof of it, and you just cannot abide. You try to attack the one thing left that you think you can, using an old picture that you're too stupid to see is old - or you willfully propagate the false impression that that picture is somehow supposed to be recent.

 

Really a pathetic expose on the state of a liberal, that you must react with such hatred. I gave you all every chance, not reacting to the instant and continuous insults; just putting forth my opinions, but - true to your makeup - you prove yourself no different than any other leftist found on any other website. You're all this way; all vile and nasty human beings who cannot tolerate those with a different belief system who can express it logically, and - apparently - irrefutably.

 

I'm going lay it on even thicker now, and tell you more truth about my accomplishments and exceptionalism, because it gets you even more bent:

 

I GC'd my home, even though I'm not a contractor. I designed it myself and drew the working blueprints by hand on vellum, even though I'm not an architect. I have a PEX tube hydronic heating system in my home, which I designed and installed myself (with no training, biatches). I've played piano since I've been 5, and play by ear and compose, even though I've never taken music lessons. I've won national awards for sales, and was self-taught. I used to bike ~300 miles a week. I could be a professional billiards player if I wanted to be. And I almost never make typographical or grammatical errors. I taught myself the skills I possess - like laying tile and doing bodywork/painting on cars, because I can.

 

You like apples? How about 'dem apples, motherfockers? Chuck Norris calls me to pound liberals. The world's most interesting man is simply a stand-in! :first:

 

Can you do these things? Any of these things? No, you clearly can't...but you have to try the next best thing though, right? Which is tear down someone else who can.

 

You're skank-@ss stoopid liberals who have accomplished little to express, and I now have you on the force-fed Conservative feeding trough, and you will take your medicine by choice.

 

Liberalism robs people of the conviction that they can accomplish anything; that they actually need Government, and other people, to accomplish greatness. Once robbed of their own true potential, the Liberal becomes devoted to ensure that no one else succeeds to a level beyond their mediocre stature either. What I did I have done on my own, fockers. You can too, but you're too locked into a failed belief system that demands that everyone around be equal to you.

 

Or below you - which is where you try to put anyone and anything which threatens you.

 

Proof is manifest right here. Instead of commending and trying to learn something from someone who just may have figured out and accomplished things you haven't, you attack. How low and small of you. How liberal of you.

 

Carry on; I'll continue laughing at the hornet's nest which has been stirred, while you continue to pay attention to what I write. I doubt it has even occurred to you that I decided to do this intentionally - without exaggerating in the slightest - just to fock with you idiots.

 

Nope. :music_guitarred:

 

Dude. I just said to look at a thread so you would understand a post and you respond with War and Peace. No one reads long drawn out posts. Most of us are at work and don't have time to read stuff like that. What do you do for a living that you have time to write mini novels and post them? I'm not attacking you. Just trying to help you understand.

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I'm sure Donald Driver is one of the leanest guys in the country. He is a physical specimen on leanness. But I have a problem when he says 3.8% body mass. Even the immersion test is only accurate to 1%. So, he should be calling that 4%. Another thing is that the immersion test is still based on formulas that make assumptions on bone density. Athletes have been found to usually higher bone density so therefore their fat content is often underestimated.

 

Next time you see Donald Driver tell him there is a more accurate test. I forget what its called but its done with 2 xrays. One absorbs the fat and the other does not. Then they subtract one from the other. Its the most accurate test out there although its pretty new.

 

3% is usually considered the absolute minimum for health. Males have 1-3% essential fats. Females are higher. I believe athletes are usually in the 6%-15% range. Some of those bodybuilders get in the really dangerous zones for competition.

 

Interesting info on the X-ray thing. I think Donald knows about this, but refused it because it doesn't matter to him that much, and because he didn't want exposure to X-rays for something like self-measurement.

 

I've told him that the type of fats he ingests (I'm a proponent of natural animals fats, but the type of fats has to be from the right animals, particularly not from grain-fed/hormone injected, etc) is going to be very important going forward as he gets older. It is my belief that a diet that replaces natural butter (not processed, and/or from grain-fed cattle, but rather grass-fed cattle) with things like soy butter are actually extremely bad for you, and reduces connective tissue resilience. I believe things like hardening artery walls, deteriorating cartilage, tendons and ligaments can all be traced back to what contemporary culture says we should be replacing traditional - and good for you - foods with.

 

A low fat diet is not good for you, IMO. A diet with the right fats is the right way to go. I believe that following a diet that includes the correct animal fats actually burns fat in your body; not the opposite.

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:lol:

 

Giants Fan talks to himself. You've chosen not to accept him, which is why he keeps posting without responses. He's hoping someone will take an interest, so that an exchange will take place. He is your bored whipping boy, and now I am an alias which is meant to take pressure off of him, and others like him. I shared information about me what I believe that some have found interesting, and others attack.

 

Oh - hold on - did you do a double take there? Yeah - that's how easy you all are to manipulate, with your leftist clique (not you, Elevator; you seem separate, and not at all like the others). I'm my own person, morons - this is not an alias - but there is no doubt that I am taking pressure off of him and others you bash, by redirecting the focus. It's intentional.

 

Dentist, you rancid focktard, the picture of me with Najeh Davenport is from 2005, as you'd see on the timestamp if you weren't too dense to notice. That you have trouble landing even a marginal looking dyke, much less a man of my caliber, is not lost on me. I had already posted - before posting that picture - that my transformation from 18% to 9% happened after that. I also already did post pictures of me recently, you angry and vile tw@t. My face is much leaner in the pictures, but you're too busy trying to stamp out that which threatens your paradigms to even notice.

 

What I've accomplished in such a short time on this forum is simply incredible. I've managed to make myself so much a focus of the hatred of leftists simply by posting facts about me, my life and my beliefs that they cannot help but read what I write! Excellent; things have gone exactly as planned for you. Liberals are so incredibly easy to manipulate, because I know you so very well.

 

Pay attention, focktards: you're going to get the medicine of Conservativism shoved down your throat, like your mom did to you when you were young, and you're going to do it to yourselves. You won't be able to help yourselves; you are compelled to read what I write, as a moth is drawn to a flame.

 

Or, you'll grow a sac and actually ignore me. Either way, it's a win - but we all know you won't ignore what I write. :first:

 

The problem with liberals isn't that they're ignorant; it's that they know so much which isn't so.

 

:lol:

 

And know this, low-lifes - and admit the truth to yourselves:

 

If I hadn't actually posted pictures of my home project and my SUV project; my pictures with Donald Driver - with whom I have been friends for 9 years - you would've said that that's all bullsh!t too! How small you all are - how insecure! You're threatened by someone who has accomplished many things, and has loads of talent that has been put to work, and you're faced with proof of it, and you just cannot abide. You try to attack the one thing left that you think you can, using an old picture that you're too stupid to see is old - or you willfully propagate the false impression that that picture is somehow supposed to be recent.

 

Really a pathetic expose on the state of a liberal, that you must react with such hatred. I gave you all every chance, not reacting to the instant and continuous insults; just putting forth my opinions, but - true to your makeup - you prove yourself no different than any other leftist found on any other website. You're all this way; all vile and nasty human beings who cannot tolerate those with a different belief system who can express it logically, and - apparently - irrefutably.

 

I'm going lay it on even thicker now, and tell you more truth about my accomplishments and exceptionalism, because it gets you even more bent:

 

I GC'd my home, even though I'm not a contractor. I designed it myself and drew the working blueprints by hand on vellum, even though I'm not an architect. I have a PEX tube hydronic heating system in my home, which I designed and installed myself (with no training, biatches). I've played piano since I've been 5, and play by ear and compose, even though I've never taken music lessons. I've won national awards for sales, and was self-taught. I used to bike ~300 miles a week. I could be a professional billiards player if I wanted to be. And I almost never make typographical or grammatical errors. I taught myself the skills I possess - like laying tile and doing bodywork/painting on cars, because I can.

 

You like apples? How about 'dem apples, motherfockers? Chuck Norris calls me to pound liberals. The world's most interesting man is simply a stand-in! :first:

 

Can you do these things? Any of these things? No, you clearly can't...but you have to try the next best thing though, right? Which is tear down someone else who can.

 

You're skank-@ss stoopid liberals who have accomplished little to express, and I now have you on the force-fed Conservative feeding trough, and you will take your medicine by choice.

 

Liberalism robs people of the conviction that they can accomplish anything; that they actually need Government, and other people, to accomplish greatness. Once robbed of their own true potential, the Liberal becomes devoted to ensure that no one else succeeds to a level beyond their mediocre stature either. What I did I have done on my own, fockers. You can too, but you're too locked into a failed belief system that demands that everyone around be equal to you.

 

Or below you - which is where you try to put anyone and anything which threatens you.

 

Proof is manifest right here. Instead of commending and trying to learn something from someone who just may have figured out and accomplished things you haven't, you attack. How low and small of you. How liberal of you.

 

Carry on; I'll continue laughing at the hornet's nest which has been stirred, while you continue to pay attention to what I write. I doubt it has even occurred to you that I decided to do this intentionally - without exaggerating in the slightest - just to fock with you idiots.

 

Nope. :music_guitarred:

 

Yep.

 

Sounds pretty much like what a fat person would say.

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Dude. I just said to look at a thread so you would understand a post and you respond with War and Peace. No one reads long drawn out posts. Most of us are at work and don't have time to read stuff like that. What do you do for a living that you have time to write mini novels and post them? I'm not attacking you. Just trying to help you understand.

 

Oh, I know, Elevator - the message has a purpose, and it wasn't directed at you. Those who are compelled to read are going to read it.

 

It should be known that discussions on politics isn't going to have simple pat bumper sticker answers, though...

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IMMensaMind  79 
Willis McGahee's Dentist  36 
Frank M  28 
MDC  26 
MedStudent  25 
FeelingMN  23 
The Elevator Killer  14 
NorthernVike  10 

 

:thumbsdown:

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:lol:

 

 

I GC'd my home, even though I'm not a contractor. I designed it myself and drew the working blueprints by hand on vellum, even though I'm not an architect. I have a PEX tube hydronic heating system in my home, which I designed and installed myself (with no training, biatches). I've played piano since I've been 5, and play by ear and compose, even though I've never taken music lessons. I've won national awards for sales, and was self-taught. I used to bike ~300 miles a week. I could be a professional billiards player if I wanted to be. And I almost never make typographical or grammatical errors. I taught myself the skills I possess - like laying tile and doing bodywork/painting on cars, because I can.

 

 

 

I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis. Stay thirsty my friends.

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/Mensa Mage casts Wall of Text +2.

 

/Mensa Mage deals 0 damage.

 

/You lose Interest.

 

:huh:

 

 

Dude. I just said to look at a thread so you would understand a post and you respond with War and Peace. No one reads long drawn out posts. Most of us are at work and don't have time to read stuff like that. What do you do for a living that you have time to write mini novels and post them? I'm not attacking you. Just trying to help you understand.

 

I can save you some time. The Cliff's Notes version:

 

I am teh important!!!

 

I am teh accomplished!!!

 

VALIDATE MEH!!!

 

alsoyourstupid

 

:sleep:

 

:D

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IMMensaMind  79 
Willis McGahee's Dentist  36 
Frank M  28 
MDC  26 
MedStudent  25 
FeelingMN  23 
The Elevator Killer  14 
NorthernVike  10 

 

:thumbsdown:

 

The thread has become about me, so what did you expect, edjr? :dunno:

 

If you want, I can redirect it back to RP, who should come back, because the bet was stupid, and - if I could ever actually hold someone to bets made online - I would have retired by now... :lol:

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And here's one now, Elevator. :pointstosky:

 

:lol:

 

My impression is that you're probably sitting in your basement office in three day old skivvies and a coffee-stained wifebeater, red-faced, typing furiously to refute each and every poster, veins bulging in your temples and steam coming out of your ears, continuously chanting "They're all liberals, they'll see! They're all liberals, they'll see!".

 

I just wish I could be there when your head finally explodes.

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IMMensaMind  79 
Willis McGahee's Dentist  36 
Frank M  28 
MDC  26 
MedStudent  25 
FeelingMN  23 
The Elevator Killer  14 
NorthernVike  10 

 

:thumbsdown:

 

:angry:

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My impression is that you're probably sitting in your basement office in three day old skivvies and a coffee-stained wifebeater, red-faced, typing furiously to refute each and every poster, veins bulging in your temples and steam coming out of your ears, continuously chanting "They're all liberals, they'll see! They're all liberals, they'll see!".

 

I just wish I could be there when your head finally explodes.

 

That's what makes you who you are, Frank: someone who has to create windmills to joust with them. I know your type, is all - and now I'm playing you.

 

Enjoy being used. :overhead:

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IMMensaMind  79 
Willis McGahee's Dentist  36 
Frank M  28 
MDC  26 
MedStudent  25 
FeelingMN  23 
The Elevator Killer  14 
NorthernVike  10 

 

:thumbsdown:

 

 

I don't get your obsession with posting how much someone posts in a thread. Also if you add in my alias' posts then my count will be higher.

 

:dunno:

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That's what makes you who you are, Frank: someone who has to create windmills to joust with them. I know your type, is all - and now I'm playing you.

 

Enjoy being used. :overhead:

 

:lol:

 

Of course that's what you're doing.

 

You're the fat kid that trips over the crack in the sidewalk, smacks his face on the ground, stands up and says "I meant to do that!"

 

ETA "fat" before kid

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:lol:

 

Of course that's what you're doing.

 

You're the fat kid that trips over the crack in the sidewalk, smacks his face on the ground, stands up and says "I meant to do that!"

 

ETA "fat" before kid

 

Great now all I hear is PeeWee Herman :nono:

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Giants Fan talks to himself. You've chosen not to accept him, which is why he keeps posting without responses. He's hoping someone will take an interest, so that an exchange will take place. He is your bored whipping boy, and now I am an alias which is meant to take pressure off of him, and others like him. I shared information about me what I believe that some have found interesting, and others attack.

 

Oh - hold on - did you do a double take there? Yeah - that's how easy you all are to manipulate, with your leftist clique (not you, Elevator; you seem separate, and not at all like the others). I'm my own person, morons - this is not an alias - but there is no doubt that I am taking pressure off of him and others you bash, by redirecting the focus. It's intentional.

 

Dentist, you rancid focktard, the picture of me with Najeh Davenport is from 2005, as you'd see on the timestamp if you weren't too dense to notice. That you have trouble landing even a marginal looking dyke, much less a man of my caliber, is not lost on me. I had already posted - before posting that picture - that my transformation from 18% to 9% happened after that. I also already did post pictures of me recently, you angry and vile tw@t. My face is much leaner in the pictures, but you're too busy trying to stamp out that which threatens your paradigms to even notice.

 

What I've accomplished in such a short time on this forum is simply incredible. I've managed to make myself so much a focus of the hatred of leftists simply by posting facts about me, my life and my beliefs that they cannot help but read what I write! Excellent; things have gone exactly as planned for you. Liberals are so incredibly easy to manipulate, because I know you so very well.

 

Pay attention, focktards: you're going to get the medicine of Conservativism shoved down your throat, like your mom did to you when you were young, and you're going to do it to yourselves. You won't be able to help yourselves; you are compelled to read what I write, as a moth is drawn to a flame.

 

Or, you'll grow a sac and actually ignore me. Either way, it's a win - but we all know you won't ignore what I write.

 

The problem with liberals isn't that they're ignorant; it's that they know so much which isn't so.

 

 

And know this, low-lifes - and admit the truth to yourselves:

 

If I hadn't actually posted pictures of my home project and my SUV project; my pictures with Donald Driver - with whom I have been friends for 9 years - you would've said that that's all bullsh!t too! How small you all are - how insecure! You're threatened by someone who has accomplished many things, and has loads of talent that has been put to work, and you're faced with proof of it, and you just cannot abide. You try to attack the one thing left that you think you can, using an old picture that you're too stupid to see is old - or you willfully propagate the false impression that that picture is somehow supposed to be recent.

 

Really a pathetic expose on the state of a liberal, that you must react with such hatred. I gave you all every chance, not reacting to the instant and continuous insults; just putting forth my opinions, but - true to your makeup - you prove yourself no different than any other leftist found on any other website. You're all this way; all vile and nasty human beings who cannot tolerate those with a different belief system who can express it logically, and - apparently - irrefutably.

 

I'm going lay it on even thicker now, and tell you more truth about my accomplishments and exceptionalism, because it gets you even more bent:

 

I GC'd my home, even though I'm not a contractor. I designed it myself and drew the working blueprints by hand on vellum, even though I'm not an architect. I have a PEX tube hydronic heating system in my home, which I designed and installed myself (with no training, biatches). I've played piano since I've been 5, and play by ear and compose, even though I've never taken music lessons. I've won national awards for sales, and was self-taught. I used to bike ~300 miles a week. I could be a professional billiards player if I wanted to be. And I almost never make typographical or grammatical errors. I taught myself the skills I possess - like laying tile and doing bodywork/painting on cars, because I.

 

You like apples? How about 'dem apples, motherfockers? Chuck Norris calls me to pound liberals. The world's most interesting man is simply a stand-in!

 

Can you do these things? Any of these things? No, you clearly can't...but you have to try the next best thing though, right? Which is tear down someone else who can.

 

You're skank-@ss stoopid liberals who have accomplished little to express, and I now have you on the force-fed Conservative feeding trough, and you take your medicine by choice.

 

Liberalism robs people of the conviction that they can accomplish anything; that they actually need Government, and other people, to accomplish greatness. Once robbed of their own true potential, the Liberal becomes devoted to ensure that no one else succeeds to a level beyond their mediocre stature either. What I did I have done on my own, fockers. You can too, but you're too locked into a failed belief system that demands that everyone around be equal to you.

 

Or below you - which is where you try to put anyone and anything which threatens you.

 

Proof is manifest right here. Instead of commending and trying to learn something from someone who just may have figured out and accomplished things you haven't, you attack. How low and small of you. How liberal of you.

 

Carry on; I'll continue laughing at the hornet's nest which has been stirred, while you continue to pay attention to what I write. I doubt it has even occurred to you that I decided to do this intentionally - without exaggerating in the slightest - just to fock with you idiots.

 

Nope.

 

 

Holy God, what does all say?

I clicked on the last page to see what Megla posted and saw this as I scrolled down. Holy fock! Jesus! Did GFIAFP forget to keep clicking "add reply" or what???

 

Nine pages?

What a freaking carwreck!!!

 

See ya guys. :wave:

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Of course that's what you're doing.

 

You're the fat kid that trips over the crack in the sidewalk, smacks his face on the ground, stands up and says "I meant to do that!"

 

ETA "fat" before kid

 

lol @ watching you not knowing how to respond to this. You're easy, Frank. You think I'm being smart with you, Frank?

 

How would you know?

 

:lol:

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Holy God, what does all say?

I clicked on the last page to see what Megla posted and saw this as I scrolled down. Holy fock! Jesus! Did GFIAFP forget to keep clicking "add reply" or what???

 

Nine pages?

What a freaking carwreck!!!

 

See ya guys. :wave:

 

PWNED. :wave:

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