DanXIII 8 Posted November 2, 2011 Personally I don't care what the POTUS decides to do with his peemus, as long as he's running the country well. What happens in the bedroom is between him and his peemus. What he decides to do with his peemus is one thing. How it affects the rights (potentially) of others is another. This is why I always thought that the Clinton sexual harassment lawsuit should have been allowed to go forward. But when it comes to Newt, his ethics are more troublesome than his peemus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted November 2, 2011 But when it comes to Newt, his ethics are more troublesome than his peemus. like what? getting slapped on the wrist for teaching some correge course and later being cleared by the irs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted November 2, 2011 like what? getting slapped on the wrist for teaching some correge course and later being cleared by the irs yeah a $300,000 fine and House reprimand = "slap on the wrist" Is there no length to which you won't go to defend any idiot's wrongdoing as long as he has an ® next to his name? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 2, 2011 yeah a $300,000 fine and House reprimand = "slap on the wrist" Is there no length to which you won't go to defend any idiot's wrongdoing as long as he has an ® next to his name? Newt was found to be innocent of the one charge. Newt should ask for a refund of his $300,000. But hey, DanIQ11 never lets facts get in the way. Remember the uproar regarding Newt's "ethics violations?" People can refresh their memory by reading an article I wrote in 1997 about these charges. In brief, David Bonior brought 75 ethics charges against Newt, 74 which were found to have no merit whatsoever (and people say that Ken Starr is on a "witch hunt?"). The last charge, whether Newt funded his college class "Renewing American Civilization" properly, was too complicated a tax issue for the committee to investigate on its own, so they brought in an outside tax expert to investigate. Two charges arose out of this investigation. The first 'charge' from the ethics committee is that he "may have" violated tax law by using tax-deductible contributions from nonprofit organizations to teach an allegedly partisan college course. The second 'charge' from the committee is that, in the course of the investigation, Newt provided false information to the committee. And what was this "false information?" Newt testified that the above contributions were in fact made by those organizations to "Renewing American Civilization." He filed papers that stated the very same thing. This is never a fact that anyone was trying to hide. But one paper filed with the committee stated that those groups did not make the contributions. For this, there was an uproar about Newt's ethics, and he was fined. Basically, Newt was fined $300,000 because he didn't read his lawyers' documents carefully. I could really get into the hypocrisy of this in light of the fact that people want to excuse Bill Clinton for lying under oath, (maybe if the course Newt had taught was about SEX the Democrats would feel differently) but that's not the point of this article. Well, after a 3.5 year probe, after Newt paid the $300,000 fine, the IRS announced on February 3, 1999, that it found NO IMPROPRIETIES IN THE TAX FILINGS of Gingrich and the sponsoring Progress and Freedom Foundation. The IRS said the principles taught in the course were not of use only in political campaigns. "The ... course taught principles from American civilization that could be used by each American in everyday life whether the person is a welfare recipient, the head of a large corporation, or a politician." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted November 2, 2011 yeah a $300,000 fine and House reprimand = "slap on the wrist" Is there no length to which you won't go to defend any idiot's wrongdoing as long as he has an ® next to his name? From what I remember that whole ordeal seemed like much ado about nothing. I don't have an ® next to my name and I like Newt and think he would make a great president. Things were going pretty well when he and Clinton were working together to balance the budget. Which should be the number 1 priority of any president. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted November 2, 2011 From what I remember that whole ordeal seemed like much ado about nothing. I don't have an ® next to my name and I like Newt and think he would make a great president. Things were going pretty well when he and Clinton were working together to balance the budget. Which should be the number 1 priority of any president. There were two government shutdowns under Clinton and Gingrich...that sounds to me like the antithesis of "working together." But whatever. Newt's a scumbag for the most part and I don't see him making much noise going forward. But we shall see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 2, 2011 . Newt's a scumbag for the most part Based on what? Your previous reason has been thoroughly trashed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted November 2, 2011 Based on what? Your previous reason has been thoroughly trashed. Explaining his affairs...like a scumbag. "There's no question at times in my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 2, 2011 Explaining his affairs...like a scumbag. "There's no question at times in my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate." So, you supported Clinton's impeachment then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted November 2, 2011 So, you supported Clinton's impeachment then. Slick Willy was the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 2, 2011 Slick Willy was the best. I see. Dem has affairs = "He's the best!" Rep has affairs = "Scumbag" Gotcha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 2, 2011 Wait why the subject change, still waiting for obamas qualifications Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 2, 2011 Wait why the subject change, still waiting for obamas qualifications He printed up bumper stickers that said "Hope & Change" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted November 2, 2011 I see. Dem has affairs, keeps it to himself, while country is doing very well = "He's the best!" Rep has affairs, yet "attacks" someone else having an affair, while claiming it is because he lied under oath, and not some biatch azz angle to stonewall the Dem govt, while wasting tax payer money = "Scumbag" Gotcha. Fixed, cause you don't see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 2, 2011 Fixed, cause you don't see. I don't recall Newt attacking Willy over an affair. Perjury, yes. I would love to see the quote by Newt doing so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted November 2, 2011 I don't recall Newt attacking Willy over an affair. Perjury, yes. I would love to see the quote by Newt doing so. I'ld love to see some truth out of that scumbag as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted November 2, 2011 Explaining his affairs...like a scumbag. "There's no question at times in my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate." Democrats have affairs for reasons like horniness, Republicans have affairs for reasons like loving America too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted November 2, 2011 Newt is an ethically challenged scumbag but I'm not holding that against him because I don't recall ever having a fundamental difference of opinion about policy with him. Also, my apologies for David Bonior. Yes, that's 8 Mile's fault. Yes, he was my congressman,. I just want to make it clear that I was a Republican at the time and never voted for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greedo 13 Posted November 2, 2011 God forbid a business man runs this country after the great job careerer politicians have done. Curious why you think Cain didn't just discuss the events that occurred accurately, so that it wasn't a daily drag through the mud as more contradictory information came out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted November 2, 2011 Now a third woman has come forward. and Cain is blaming Perry na na na na na na na na hey hey hey gooodbye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted November 7, 2011 And we have a 4th!! A fourth woman is to step forward Monday afternoon to say that the Republican presidential contender Herman Cain sexually harassed her when he was the chief executive of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s. link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,425 Posted November 7, 2011 Why isn't Newt doing better? Because his reputation as some kind of GOP thought leader is totally unearned. Mostly he's the ultimate country club Republican, a fat pig of a man who lacks the work ethic to run a campaign, much less a country. The man is toast, forget about him. The GOP may have dodged a bullet with Cain because there's no way he could win the general election. Romney may be boring but he's the party's best hope for the White House and it's not even close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 And we have a 4th racist!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted November 7, 2011 attorney Gloria Allred I stopped reading there. Wow, not his broad again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 I stopped reading there. Wow, not his broad again. You would think she would still be tied up defending that poor, pitiful Mexican maid of Meg Whitman she trotted out in front of the cameras just before the California Gubernatorial vote. Anyone know how that case turned out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 7, 2011 Why isn't Newt doing better? Because his reputation as some kind of GOP thought leader is totally unearned. Mostly he's the ultimate country club Republican, a fat pig of a man who lacks the work ethic to run a campaign, much less a country. The man is toast, forget about him. The GOP may have dodged a bullet with Cain because there's no way he could win the general election. Romney may be boring but he's the party's best hope for the White House and it's not even close. Or because those in the political establishment are getting CREAMED by newcomers... Maybe its that... Gotta love the liberal allegations... This can't be about the issues, or the economy, or how people actually perform... Its about feelings, and emotions and weak personal attacks... I love it. The ONLY thing Obama has going for him is David Axlerod... Axelrod could get Bernie Lomax elected to POTUS (he basically did with obama lol) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 7, 2011 Newt is an ethically challenged scumbag but I'm not holding that against him because I don't recall ever having a fundamental difference of opinion about policy with him. Also, my apologies for David Bonior. Yes, that's 8 Mile's fault. Yes, he was my congressman,. I just want to make it clear that I was a Republican at the time and never voted for him. he's not ethically challenged...He cheated on his wife...no worse than Bill Clinton, who people would vote for if he could run again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted November 7, 2011 Or because those in the political establishment are getting CREAMED by newcomers... Maybe its that... Romney is a newcomer? Gotta love the liberal allegations... This can't be about the issues, or the economy, or how people actually perform... Its about feelings, and emotions and weak personal attacks... You do realize that even Herman Cain says that these "attacks" are coming from another Repube (Perry) not omgzloltheliberals? Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 7, 2011 Wait why the subject change, still waiting for obamas qualifications Michele Obamas best friend is Jesse Jacksons daughter... He was 'knighted' by minority royalty = qualified Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 7, 2011 Romney is a newcomer? You do realize that even Herman Cain says that these "attacks" are coming from another Repube (Perry) not omgzloltheliberals? Right? Anyone with a couple IQ points realize that this election is about a whole lot more than trying to dredge up bs from 20 years ago... If you base your decisions on publications you see on the grocery store checkout line rack, then ya, you probably live your life one TMZ investigation at a time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 7, 2011 Michele Obamas best friend is Jesse Jacksons daughter... He was 'knighted' by minority royalty = qualified Doh, my bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,425 Posted November 7, 2011 Or because those in the political establishment are getting CREAMED by newcomers... Maybe its that... Gotta love the liberal allegations... This can't be about the issues, or the economy, or how people actually perform... Its about feelings, and emotions and weak personal attacks... I love it. The ONLY thing Obama has going for him is David Axlerod... Axelrod could get Bernie Lomax elected to POTUS (he basically did with obama lol) 1. Romney isn't a newcomer and he's a virtual lock to win the nomination. Newt has barely even bothered to run a campaign. He is this year's Fred Thompson and all your excuses won't change that fact. 2. In typical Dank form the rest of your retarded spittle has nothing to do with the thread topic or anything I said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 7, 2011 1. Romney isn't a newcomer and he's a virtual lock to win the nomination. Newt has barely even bothered to run a campaign. He is this year's Fred Thompson and all your excuses won't change that fact. 2. In typical Dank form the rest of your retarded spittle has nothing to do with the thread topic or anything I said. 1.) Whats Romneys biggest hurdle? Explaining the results of his previous years in politics. Being called a flip flopper.. Bascially HAVING a political record is his biggest obstacle against this field. 2.) Typical Dank dominance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,586 Posted November 7, 2011 Cain faces new claim of sexual misconduct Washington (CNN) -- Herman Cain faced a new claim of sexually inappropriate behavior Monday as a Chicago woman told reporters the former head of the National Restaurant Association groped her after a dinner together in 1997. Sharon Bialek, who worked at the restaurant group's eduction foundation until shortly before the alleged groping incident, said Cain unexpectedly put his hand beneath her skirt and between her legs "toward my genitals." She also said he pushed her head toward his crotch. Cain stopped when she protested, Bialek told a news conference. Looking into the television cameras, Bialek said: "I want you, Mr. Cain, to come clean. Just admit what you did." The accusation follows the disclosure last week that the restaurant association provided payments to two women who left the group after alleging sexual harassment by Cain, also in the late 1990s. Cain has denied all accusations of sexual harassment, and his campaign put out a fresh denial after Bialek made her accusations on Monday. "All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false," a campaign statement said. "Mr. Cain has never harassed anyone." Since becoming public on October 30 in a report by Politico, the sexual harassment accusations have overwhelmed the bid by the former pizza company executive to win the Republican presidential nomination. Cain, a favorite of tea party conservatives, has risen to the top of the polls following strong performances in several debates and the release of his "9-9-9" tax plan that sets flat 9% rates for corporate and income taxes and also creates a 9% national sales tax. However, Bialek's accusation raises fresh questions about whether Cain has been candid about the allegations that he sexually harassed women at the restaurant association when he headed the group from 1996-99. Bialek said she started to work at the group's foundation in 1996 but was laid off in 1997. Shortly thereafter, she contacted Cain -- whom she had met at the group's Chicago convention -- to seek help in finding a job. She traveled to Washington, where Cain worked, and found he had upgraded her hotel room to a luxury suite without telling her. They had dinner at an Italian restaurant, she said, and then Cain asked if she had been to the association offices in the capital. Cain made his advances as on the way, according to Bialek. "He said, 'You want a job, right?' " she told reporters at the news conference organized by celebrity attorney Gloria Allred. Bialek took no questions from reporters, but Allred said Bialek had told two people at the time about what happened. Bialek filed no complaint with the restaurant association because she no longer worked there, Allred said. Asked why Bialek was coming forward now, Allred said it was in solidarity with Cain's other accusers and harassed women everywhere. Cain has previously complained the sexual harassment allegations amount to a baseless media onslaught against his campaign. On Saturday, Cain scolded reporters who asked about the issue following a debate with fellow conservative Newt Gingrich in Texas. "Don't even go there," Cain told one questioner who'd asked about the allegations. Asked again later, he responded: "What I'm saying is this -- we are getting back on message, end of story. Back on message. Read all of the other accounts, where everything has been answered -- end of story." On Friday, a lawyer for one of the accusers reported by Politico released a statement saying she stood by her claims against Cain. However, the woman has so far refused to allow her identity or specifics of her allegations to be made public. Cain supporters have said the anonymous allegations and lack of details showed the political nature of the accusations reported by Politico. Bialek is the first woman to publicly accuse Cain and provide specifics about what allegedly happened. On Sunday, one of Cain's rivals called for keeping the issue alive, saying the necessary scrutiny of presidential candidates requires Cain to answer all questions about what happened. "It's up to Herman Cain to get the information out and get it out in total," Jon Huntsman, the former Utah governor running far behind Cain in polls so far, told NBC's "Meet the Press" program. "That's important because we've got some real issues to discuss in this campaign, and this is taking all the bandwidth out of the discussion. So we're not able to talk about jobs. We're not able to talk about our position in the world. And that hurts." Conservatives, angered by the media attention to the potentially fatal accusations for the tea party favorite's campaign, argued that the lack of specifics -- with no public disclosure yet of an accuser's name or specific offense alleged -- showed it was all more circus than substance. "Until something comes out that's concrete, I think it is politics as usual," retiring Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, told CNN's "State of the Union." To Rep. Darrell Issa, a California Republican backing former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in the GOP race, Cain is undergoing a difficult transition from private business figure to public politician. "To go directly from being a businessman, without substantial time in the government arena, both the vetting and the knowledge of it, is really hard," Issa told NBC. "It's virtually impossible" and in Cain's presidential quest, may be "a bridge too far." Former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a strong Democratic Party voice, suggested Cain's troubles were only part of the problem for Republicans on women's issues. "I think what you're seeing is a huge assault on women's rights in the Republican parties, and an extreme right-wing that has taken over that is going to make it very difficult for anybody in a general election in the Republican Party to be a centrist," Richardson said on NBC. Despite the week of uproar over the accusations, Cain's campaign reported a spike in donations, while polls have yet to determine any significant affect on his support. Gloria Allred is her lawyer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 So, we have a WHITE WOMAN and known lefty October surprise queen Gloria Allred holding a news conference with no evidence.......13 years after the fact................a WHITE WOMAN who did't report this to anyone at the time. Yeah, there's a credible accusation. RACISTS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,425 Posted November 7, 2011 1.) Whats Romneys biggest hurdle? Explaining the results of his previous years in politics. Being called a flip flopper.. Bascially HAVING a political record is his biggest obstacle against this field. 2.) Typical Dank dominance. 1. Romney isn't a newcomer and he's almost certainly the party nominee. So much for your theory on why Newt's campaign hasn't gotten off the ground. 2. Way to have no clue what's going on Corky, you get a gold star for the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted November 7, 2011 This is playing out like a movie. Out of nowhere candidate gains positive political momentum. Ends up leading the Republican primary race. As soon as candidate becomes viable (and a threat) allegations surface from stuff 15 years ago. Then celebrity ambulance chaser lawyers get involved. Total media focus shifts from economy, healthcare, wars, and taxes to if so and so slapped you on the butt back in 1996?. I've read this movie script before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,586 Posted November 7, 2011 So, we have a WHITE WOMAN and known lefty October surprise queen Gloria Allred holding a news conference with no evidence.......13 years after the fact................a WHITE WOMAN who did't report this to anyone at the time. Yeah, there's a credible accusation. RACISTS! Bialek took no questions from reporters, but Allred said Bialek had told two people at the time about what happened. Bialek filed no complaint with the restaurant association because she no longer worked there, Allred said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 "Allred said"......well, OK then. :overhead: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,586 Posted November 7, 2011 "Allred said"......well, OK then. :overhead: I don't know wtf happened and neither do you. You said she didn't report it to anyone at the time. I'm sure you know more than Gloria Allred? Both of you know sh1t. Doesn't stop you from throwing stuff against the wall, does it? If we changed the name of the man being accused from Cain to Obama, you'd be having a focking field day with this. You are the biggest fraud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites