Greedo 13 Posted November 8, 2011 The bottom line is that when the economy does well, EVERYONE wins. When the economy does poorly, everyone loses. Lots of people do well in a poor economy. Many businesses start and succeed in difficult times. I, personally, am far better off than I was in 2007. Just sayin'. Cain is vastly more qualified to be POTUS than Obama was, is, or will ever be. Not sure what qualifies you to make this judgment - but maybe you're thinking about all Cain's straight talk regarding these harrassment allegations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted November 8, 2011 Serious question, then: would you rather have Cain or Romney? I get that you think he's more qualified than Obama, but you can't really think that he's more qualified than Romney. For me personally. Romney and Perry are the same to me. They are like 95% of politicians. As Voltaire said, they'd sell their mother off if it meant more votes. They're the exact guys proliferating the problems that need to be corrected like campaign finance reform and lack of term limits. They'd do or say anything for votes and take money to get things done. If you looked up the word 'slick politician' in the dictionary you'd see a picture of the three stooges. Perry, Romney, and Obama. Fock those guys, I'm tired of that. They flip flop more than surferskin. Ron Paul is who we know he is. Cain is a DC outsider. Newt, with all his flaws is consistent in his beleifs (moreso than most) and is very intelligent. I don't give a fock if Mitt Romney and Perry are handsome and look like Presidents and you deem them so called 'electable'. Unlike 90% of the voting public I don't vote on who I think has the best chance to win, or who reads a teleprompter the smoothest, or who would win an American Idol contest. I vote on who I agree with their core political values the most and who I feel is the most honest with me. Perry or Obama. Obama or Romney. Bush or Perry. Romney or Bush. Bush or Obama. To-mato or Toma-to. They're all the same. Paul or Cain for President. The status quo must go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 8, 2011 Not sure what qualifies you to make this judgment It's a simple process. You look at the background and life experiences of both individuals. Hth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,425 Posted November 8, 2011 At this point I would rather have Cain's qualifications of having run businesses, created jobs, and straight talk over the ability to talk your way around answering questions. As a fellow Republican I couldn't agree more. So what if Cain is a sexual predator who doesn't know that China's had nuclear weapons for almost fifty years? What's important is that the man knows how to sell pizza. And if there's one thing this economy needs now, it's jobs like making and delivering pizzas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted November 8, 2011 At this point I would rather have Cain's qualifications of having run businesses, created jobs, and straight talk over the ability to talk your way around answering questions. I know Romney has experience in the private sector as well, but he is a politician. Having slick politicians who can spin things in a debate etc hasn't worked out too well for us. Anyone on the Rep side will be a huge improvement over the train wreck Obama has been. Yet his qualifications mean d1ck when you're talking about running a country. This is what amazes me about Americans lately. They feel like the guy in there isn't doing a good job, so the answer is throw him out and put another guy in there with no experience and expect the situation to improve because he's not a politician. At least Romney has run a state and is familiar with the political process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 8, 2011 And if there's one thing this economy needs now, it's jobs like making and delivering pizzas. Titans would kill for a job like that. Mebbe with additional education and training he will one day achieve that dream. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 8, 2011 As a fellow Republican I couldn't agree more. So what if Cain is a sexual predator who doesn't know that China's had nuclear weapons for almost fifty years? What's important is that the man knows how to sell pizza. And if there's one thing this economy needs now, it's jobs like making and delivering pizzas. At he wasn't blowing coke and dudes like Obama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted November 8, 2011 For me personally. Romney and Perry are the same to me. They are like 95% of politicians. As Voltaire said, they'd sell their mother off if it meant more votes. They're the exact guys proliferating the problems that need to be corrected like campaign finance reform and lack of term limits. They'd do or say anything for votes and take money to get things done. If you looked up the word 'slick politician' in the dictionary you'd see a picture of the three stooges. Perry, Romney, and Obama. Fock those guys, I'm tired of that. They flip flop more than surferskin. Ron Paul is who we know he is. Cain is a DC outsider. Newt, with all his flaws is consistent in his beleifs (moreso than most) and is very intelligent. I don't give a fock if Mitt Romney and Perry are handsome and look like Presidents and you deem them so called 'electable'. Unlike 90% of the voting public I don't vote on who I think has the best chance to win, or who reads a teleprompter the smoothest, or who would win an American Idol contest. I vote on who I agree with their core political values the most and who I feel is the most honest with me. Perry or Obama. Obama or Romney. Bush or Perry. Romney or Bush. Bush or Obama. To-mato or Toma-to. They're all the same. Paul or Cain for President. The status quo must go. I agree with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,501 Posted November 8, 2011 A Cain / Gingrich or Gingrich / Cain ticket would be awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 8, 2011 Lots of people do well in a poor economy. Many businesses start and succeed in difficult times. I, personally, am far better off than I was in 2007. Just sayin'. The poor economy is WHY you are doing better? I would guess a relatively small % of people fit into that box. You can root for ever worse economies on your own, the rest of us will hope it improves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 9, 2011 Another example of lefty media elite racists wanting to get rid of Cain. On Wednesday's "Today" show, host of NBC's "Meet the Press" David Gregory says there is no "Grand Wizard" right now in the GOP to "force" Cain out of the primary. Transcript below: Ann Curry, NBC News: "He's not stepping down, continuing to suck the air out of the narrative the Republican party really wants to tell. Does the party now wish he would just go away?" David Gregory, NBC News: "Well there is no, you know, Grand Wizard in the party right now who can really force the issue. I've talked to Cain's advisers in Iowa, they think their support is still strong there, that it's not falling. There may be cracks in the foundation according to pollsters I'm talking to, that his numbers may be starting to shift but right now core support remains there." He must be thinking about Robert KKK Byrd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted November 9, 2011 He must be thinking about Robert KKK Byrd. he's dead. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 9, 2011 he's dead. HTH I know that, you know that, but we are talking about Gregory here. He is a moron. Plus, Byrd is the only KKK leader to be Senate Majority leader. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 9, 2011 Another example of lefty media elite racists wanting to get rid of Cain. Please. The entire left is waiting with bated breath hoping against hope that the Republicans actually nominate this clown. He stands zero chance in a general election. Please, nominate him. Do it. We dare you, our negro against yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 9, 2011 Another example of lefty media elite racists wanting to get rid of Cain. He must be thinking about Robert KKK Byrd. Just laugh at the racist, bigoted, vitriolic discourse.... Its ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 9, 2011 Please. The entire left is waiting with bated breath hoping against hope that the Republicans actually nominate this clown. He stands zero chance in a general election. Please, nominate him. Do it. We dare you, our negro against yours. Sorry, he has no chance against all your lefty, racist media outfits trying to lynch his chances of getting the nomination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 9, 2011 Sorry, he has no chance against all your lefty, racist media outfits trying to lynch his chances of getting the nomination. Yep. Keep blaming that media boogeyman. It couldn't be the fact that the man can't even speak the English language competently. Hell, he makes Bush look like a Toastmaster. Couldn't be the fact that he proposes eliminating taxes that pertain only to the rich (estate, capital gains) while raising the sales tax on poor people's food by 10%. Couldn't be the fact that he has absolutely no focking clue about foriegn policy. And that's not even getting into his sexual harassment problem. No, it must be those naughty media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Rusty 18 Posted November 9, 2011 Please. The entire left is waiting with bated breath hoping against hope that the Republicans actually nominate this clown. He stands zero chance in a general election. Please, nominate him. Do it. We dare you, our negro against yours. Our Negro is twice the negro yours will ever be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 9, 2011 Yep. Keep blaming that media boogeyman. It couldn't be the fact that the man can't even speak the English language competently. Hell, he makes Bush look like a Toastmaster. Couldn't be the fact that he proposes eliminating taxes that pertain only to the rich (estate, capital gains) while raising the sales tax on poor people's food by 10%. Couldn't be the fact that he has absolutely no focking clue about foriegn policy. And that's not even getting into his sexual harassment problem. No, it must be those naughty media. Polls had him in the lead until the racist left decided he got too uppity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 9, 2011 Our Negro is twice the negro yours will ever be Its funny to compare them. Just diametrically opposite people. One silver spoon fed, annointed senator with all the chicago machine connections. The other is the embodiment of the american dream. Trade David Axlerod for Mark Bloch and it'd be game over. But unfortunately campaign management is 90+% of winning a nomination/election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Rusty 18 Posted November 9, 2011 Even though i have my own thread on Michael Savage already going, i'm gonna post this here because much of it involves Cain... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iSRgXM5RoE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted November 9, 2011 Polls had him in the lead until the racist left racist Texas Republicans who want Rick Perry decided he got too uppity. Fixed that one for ya! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 9, 2011 Whoa, that latest chick looks like Stiffler's Mom.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted November 10, 2011 NBC is going nuts on the Princess Pelosi comment by Cain tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 11, 2011 Herman Cain has spent his life living and working all over the country -- Indiana, Georgia, Minnesota, Nebraska, Kansas, Washington, D.C. -- but never in Chicago. So it's curious that all the sexual harassment allegations against Cain emanate from Chicago: home of the Daley machine and Obama consigliere David Axelrod. Suspicions had already fallen on Sheila O'Grady, who is close with David Axelrod and went straight from being former Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley's chief of staff to president of the Illinois Restaurant Association (IRA), as being the person who dug up Herman Cain's personnel records from the National Restaurant Association (NRA). The Daley-controlled IRA works hand-in-glove with the NRA. And strangely enough, Cain's short, three-year tenure at the NRA is evidently the only period in his decades-long career during which he's alleged to have been a sexual predator. After O'Grady's name surfaced in connection with the miraculous appearance of Cain's personnel files from the NRA, she issued a Clintonesque denial of any involvement in producing them -- by vigorously denying that she knew Cain when he was at the NRA. (Duh.) And now, after a week of conservative eye-rolling over unspecified, anonymous accusations against Cain, we've suddenly got very specific sexual assault allegations from an all-new accuser out of ... Chicago. Herman Cain has never lived in Chicago. But you know who has? David Axelrod! And guess who lived in Axelrod's very building? Right again: Cain's latest accuser, Sharon Bialek. Bialek's accusations were certainly specific. But they also demonstrated why anonymous accusations are worthless. Within 24 hours of Bialek's press conference, friends and acquaintances of hers stepped forward to say that she's a "gold-digger," that she was constantly in financial trouble -- having filed for personal bankruptcy twice -- and, of course, that she had lived in Axelrod's apartment building at 505 North Lake Shore Drive, where, she admits, she knew the man The New York Times calls Obama's "hired muscle." Throw in some federal tax evasion, and she's Obama's next Cabinet pick. The reason all this is relevant is that both Axelrod and Daley have a history of smearing political opponents by digging up claims of sexual misconduct against them. John Brooks, Chicago's former fire commissioner, filed a lawsuit against Daley six months ago claiming Daley threatened to smear him with sexual harassment accusations if Brooks didn't resign. He resigned -- and the sexual harassment allegations were later found to be completely false. Meanwhile, as extensively detailed in my book Guilty: Liberal 'Victims' and Their Assault on America, the only reason Obama became a U.S. senator -- allowing him to run for president -- is that David Axelrod pulled sealed divorce records out of a hat, first, against Obama's Democratic primary opponent, and then against Obama's Republican opponent. One month before the 2004 Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate, Obama was way down in the polls, about to lose to Blair Hull, a multimillionaire securities trader. But then The Chicago Tribune -- where Axelrod used to work -- began publishing claims that Hull's second ex-wife, Brenda Sexton, had sought an order of protection against him during their 1998 divorce proceedings. From then until Election Day, Hull was embroiled in fighting the allegation that he was a "wife beater." He and his ex-wife eventually agreed to release their sealed divorce records. His first ex-wife, daughters and nanny defended him at a press conference, swearing he was never violent. During a Democratic debate, Hull was forced to explain that his wife kicked him and he had merely kicked her back. Hull's substantial lead just a month before the primary collapsed with the nonstop media attention to his divorce records. Obama sailed to the front of the pack and won the primary. Hull finished third with 10 percent of the vote. Luckily for Axelrod, Obama's opponent in the general election had also been divorced. The Republican nominee was Jack Ryan, a graduate of Dartmouth and Harvard law and business schools, who had left his lucrative partnership at Goldman Sachs to teach at an inner-city school on the South Side of Chicago. But in a child custody dispute some years earlier, Ryan's ex-wife, Hollywood sex kitten Jeri Lynn Ryan, had alleged that, while the couple was married, Jack had taken her to swingers clubs in Paris and New York. Jack Ryan adamantly denied the allegations. In the interest of protecting their son, he also requested that the records be put permanently under seal. Axelrod's courthouse moles obtained the "sealed" records and, in no time, they were in the hands of every political operative in Chicago. Knowing perfectly well what was in the records, Chicago Tribune attorneys flew to California and requested that the court officially "unseal" them -- over the objections of both Jack and Jeri Ryan. Your honor, who knows what could be in these records! A California judge ordered them unsealed, which allowed newspapers to publish the salacious allegations, and four days later, Ryan dropped out of the race under pressure from idiot Republicans (who should be tracked down and shot). With a last-minute replacement of Alan Keyes as Obama's Republican opponent, Obama was able to set an all-time record in an Illinois Senate election, winning with a 43 percent margin. And that's how Obama became a senator four years after losing a congressional race to Bobby Rush. (In a disastrous turn of events, Rush was not divorced.) Axelrod destroyed the only two men who stood between Obama and the Senate with illicitly obtained, lurid allegations from their pasts. In 2007, long after Obama was safely ensconced in the U.S. Senate, The New York Times reported: "The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece (on Hull's sealed divorce records) later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had 'worked aggressively behind the scenes' to push the story." Some had suggested, the Times article continued, that Axelrod had "an even more significant role -- that he leaked the initial story." This time, Obama's little helpers have not only thrown a bomb into the Republican primary, but are hoping to destroy the man who deprives the Democrats of their only argument in 2012: If you oppose Obama, you must be a racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 11, 2011 No Ann Coulter link? LOL... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 11, 2011 No Ann Coulter link? LOL... There are lots of Ann Coulter links. Try the innerwebs. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted November 11, 2011 Yep. Keep blaming that media boogeyman. It couldn't be the fact that the man can't even speak the English language competently. Hell, he makes Bush look like a Toastmaster. Couldn't be the fact that he proposes eliminating taxes that pertain only to the rich (estate, capital gains) while raising the sales tax on poor people's food by 10%. Couldn't be the fact that he has absolutely no focking clue about foriegn policy. And that's not even getting into his sexual harassment problem. No, it must be those naughty media. When I heard him say "brutha from another mutha" that was it for me. I will not give him another thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 11, 2011 When I heard him say "brutha from another mutha" that was it for me. I will not give him another thought. Well then, he's done now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted November 11, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA4CHDgqo7g Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 14, 2011 Boortz brings up a good point in all this. By Neal Boortz Something occurred to me last week. I’ve expressed it on the air a few times, but don’t think I’ve put it into the Nuze. Take a look at Herman Cain’s work history. He was a civilian analyst for the Navy working on ballistic missile technology. He then went to work for Coca-Cola. In 1977 he joined Pillsbury and worked up to a position as vice-president. Then he turned around some Burger King franchises for Pillsbury. Pillsbury then made him president of the Godfather’s Pizza chain. He later bought Godfather’s and ran it successfully for many years. For three years he was the President of the National Restaurant Association. He also worked as an economic advisor during Bob Dole’s campaign for president. OK .. here’s my question. Throughout that entire work history, starting in the early 1970’s --- The Defense Department, Coca-Cola, Pillsbury, Burger King, Godfather’s Pizza, the National Restaurant Association, the Dole campaign and his years working for WSB Radio in Atlanta --- can you tell me just why ALL of the allegations of sexual harassment came from those three years with the NRA? Was it something in the food? Seems a bit odd to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,086 Posted November 14, 2011 When I heard him say "brutha from another mutha" that was it for me. I will not give him another thought. You never like your dad's boyfriends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites