titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 7, 2011 So, we have a WHITE WOMAN and known lefty October surprise queen Gloria Allred holding a news conference with no evidence.......13 years after the fact................a WHITE WOMAN who did't report this to anyone at the time. Yeah, there's a credible accusation. RACISTS! Yeah, four (so far) different women are racist liars. Seems to me that Cain is the racist, apperantly, he refuses to harrass black women. I don't know wtf happened and neither do you. You said she didn't report it to anyone at the time. I'm sure you know more than Gloria Allred? Both of you know sh1t. Doesn't stop you from throwing stuff against the wall, does it? If we changed the name of the man being accused from Cain to Obama, you'd be having a focking field day with this. You are the biggest fraud. True. Oh, and quit blaming this "smear campaign" on libs. Cain winning the GOP nomination is the democratic party's wet dream, as he is an utterly unprepared loon who would get crushed by Obama. Romney has this sad window licking contest locked up at this point. But hilarously, "the base" hates him because he is a Morman. Just too funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,702 Posted November 7, 2011 he's not ethically challenged...He cheated on his wife...no worse than Bill Clinton, who people would vote for if he could run again. Because for Democrats, it is used as a resume enhancer... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 I don't know wtf happened and neither do you. You said she didn't report it to anyone at the time. I'm sure you know more than Gloria Allred? Both of you know sh1t. Doesn't stop you from throwing stuff against the wall, does it? Allred has a giant track record of digging up people to make allegations against Republican candidates, only to do nothing with them after the damage is done. WTF happened to her Messican maid after the Cali elections? She was all concerned with her well being and how she was mistreated. How much money did she get for that poor woman? Oh wait, she dumped her soon after the election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,599 Posted November 7, 2011 Allred has a giant track record of digging up people to make allegations against Republican candidates, only to do nothing with them after the damage is done. WTF happened to her Messican maid after the Cali elections? She was all concerned with her well being and how she was mistreated. How much money did she get for that poor woman? Oh wait, she dumped her soon after the election. Why do you not deny if Obama was the one being accused you'd be all over it and have no problem accusing him without any fact? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 7, 2011 Because for Democrats, it is used as a resume enhancer... lol, play some clintonian sax, use one of obamas myriad slang accents... 'keepin' it REAL' /Martin lawrence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 7, 2011 Why do you not deny if Obama was the one being accused you'd be all over it and have no problem accusing him without any fact? We all know Obama didn't exist in between his time in Kenya and when he was appointed head of the Harvard Law Review... Don't try to pull a fast one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 Why do you not deny if Obama was the one being accused you'd be all over it and have no problem accusing him without any fact? I'm not in the habit of denying hypothetical scenarios libtards throw out there to distract from the subject. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 7, 2011 I'm not in the habit of admitting anything that does not fit with my sad, warped, view of reality. HTH Fixed for accuracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted November 7, 2011 I like the Cain campaign's reponse: “All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false. Mr. Cain has never harassed anyone. Fortunately the American people will not allow Mr. Cain’s bold ’9-9-9 Plan’, clear foreign policy vision and plans for energy independence to be overshadowed by these bogus attacks.” 9-9-9 plan has been roundly panned by anyone with half a brain as resulting in 18-20% sales taxes clear foreign policy vision???? we covered that in another thread Hmm, let's pick the 2 things our candidate is weakest on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted November 7, 2011 I'm sure all the defenders of poor Herman Cain against these baseless charges were similarly defending Bill Clinton when he was accused of extramarital affairs during his first campaign, denouncing the right wing media's smear campaign to take down the future president. Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 I'm sure all the defenders of poor Herman Cain against these baseless charges were similarly defending Bill Clinton when he was accused of extramarital affairs during his first campaign, denouncing the right wing media's smear campaign to take down the future president. Right? Who is defending Cain? Just asking for some proof or evidence..............ya know, like the tape recordings Gennifer Flowers had. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted November 7, 2011 Who is defending Cain? Just asking for some proof or evidence..............ya know, like the tape recordings Gennifer Flowers had. HTH Paying off accusers is not evidence enough for you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 Paying off accusers is not evidence enough for you? You mean, the NRA making the decision to pay off someone cuz it's cheaper than going to court? Hmmmm........I guess if some of the paperwork of the settlement comes out where he admits doing it I'll have to conclude he did it. Based solely on paying off an accuser, nope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted November 7, 2011 Paying off accusers is not evidence enough for you? Companies/Associations/Corporations settle out of court when they think they are innocent all the time to avoid the negative attention (even if untrue) and possible court costs. I'm not saying Cain is being smeared or if he really is a sex craved scumbag. I have no idea. I'm just saying that when an entity 'settles' out of court that in no way deems guilt or innocence. Grown folks know these sorts of things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 7, 2011 I'm just saying that when an entity 'settles' out of court that in no way deems guilt or innocence. Grown folks know these sorts of things. Once? Sure. Twice? Maybe. Four times? Not bloody likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 Once? Sure. Twice? Maybe. Four times? Not bloody likely. Yeah, I woulda figured 4 people coming forward with accusations and no proof would be unlikely as well. I guess we both underestimated the libtard's racism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 7, 2011 Once? Sure. Twice? Maybe. Four times? Not bloody likely. He settled out of court 4 times ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted November 7, 2011 He settled out of court 4 times ? Rumors always grow legs. Before you know it Cain will have slept with Gloria Allred herself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishop82 61 Posted November 7, 2011 Rumors always grow legs. Before you know it Cain will have slept with Gloria Allred herself Glen Rice himself. Fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted November 7, 2011 Maybe Cain was impregnated by Beiber? Or was it Amy Mickleson? I can't keep up with it all anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 7, 2011 He settled out of court 4 times ? Rumors always grow legs. Before you know it Cain will have slept with Gloria Allred herself. I didn't mean to imply he settled out of court four time. I was merely pointing out that it is pretty ludicrous to actually believe that all four of these women are liars, and were either racially motivated or settle for costs reasons. If you guys wanna say "Ok, he's an asshound, and can't keep his d!ck in his pants, but I like him anyway and think he'd be a good Pres" I can respect that. That's pretty much what we said about Clinton. But to pretend he is being smeared... and by the left no less? Just shows that you are a partisan hack. If the left were going to destroy Cain, they'd wait till AFTER he won the nomination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 I was merely pointing out that it is pretty ludicrous to actually believe that all four of these women are liars, Why? Apparently only one came forward when it happened, and she went away for a few bucks. Doesn't seem like the traumatic experiences they are now claiming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 7, 2011 Why? Apparently only one came forward when it happened, and she went away for a few bucks. Doesn't seem like the traumatic experiences they are now claiming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 7, 2011 Just curious titans ...do you consider yourself a non-partisan hack ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 Apparently, you are the only person in the country who has seen evidence to support their claims. Lucky you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 7, 2011 Just curious titans ...do you consider yourself a non-partisan hack ? I dislike both parties. Both are corrupt and worthless. That said, the Republicans don't even bother to hide the fact that they are the shills for the rich anymore. But regardless, if a politician I support all of a sudden had 4 different women come forward claiming sexual harassment, I'd be comfortably convinced that he did it, based on that whole smoke = fire thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 7, 2011 I dislike both parties. Both are corrupt and worthless. That said, the Republicans don't even bother to hide the fact that they are the shills for the rich anymore. But regardless, if a politician I support all of a sudden had 4 different women come forward claiming sexual harassment, I'd be comfortably convinced that he did it, based on that whole smoke = fire thing. Was that nosense a yes or a no ? And you do know Obama was the largest recipient of wall st donations in the history of ever....right ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 7, 2011 Was that nosense a yes or a no ? And you do know Obama was the largest recipient of wall st donations in the history of ever....right ? Sorry drobs, I forgot you have the reading comp level of a three year old on acid. That would be a no. I despise both parties, but since we are a two party system, and one is markedly worse than the other, I am forced to pick a turd from time to time. That answer your question? ET respond to your edit: Yes, I realize that Obama, like every other serious Presidential candidate, is a corrupt piece of sh!t. That is why I said BOTH parties are corrupt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted November 7, 2011 If there is some proof or something that comes out that Herman Cain is some deranged sexual predator then he needs to bow out of the race. If it comes out that he simply "hit" on some women and they are going for a money grab then I'll vote for the guy. At this point, the latter seems just as (if not more) probable than the former. Especially considering that Gloria Alred is in the picture. That lady is a the epitomy of money grab media whoreism (is that a word?). What I'll do is wait for it to play out before I declare the man guilty of something. That's what we try to do in this country. If presuming somebody innocent before guilty makes me a partisan hack, then I'm comfortable with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,447 Posted November 7, 2011 These allegations wouldn't affect my likelihood to vote for Cain at all, unless any of them were proven. What I don't like though are his evasive changing answers and finger pointing. It's also hilarious that people blame the left for this story, since Politico broke the news and it was obviously leaked by a GOP challenger. Cain has no shot regardless - I'm sure the Obummer camp fears Romney a lot more. Overall not much to care about here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 How can anyone take this accuser seriously when the press conference starts out like this. http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_bj0ez7dc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 7, 2011 If there is some proof or something that comes out that Herman Cain is some deranged sexual predator then he needs to bow out of the race. If it comes out that he simply "hit" on some women and they are going for a money grab then I'll vote for the guy. At this point, the latter seems just as (if not more) probable than the former. Especially considering that Gloria Alred is in the picture. That lady is a the epitomy of money grab media whoreism (is that a word?). What I'll do is wait for it to play out before I declare the man guilty of something. That's what we try to do in this country. If presuming somebody innocent before guilty makes me a partisan hack, then I'm comfortable with that. These allegations wouldn't affect my likelihood to vote for Cain at all, unless any of them were proven. What I don't like though are his evasive changing answers and finger pointing. It's also hilarious that people blame the left for this story, since Politico broke the news and it was obviously leaked by a GOP challenger. Cain has no shot regardless - I'm sure the Obummer camp fears Romney a lot more. Overall not much to care about here. This story has no impact on my liklihood of voting for him either, as he is utterly incompetent and basically a blithering idiot. And yes, obviously, the facts should play out, and legally, he should be presumed innocent. But here, in the court of public opinion, I'm willing to go out on a limb and say he prolly did something. Once again, I don't really care, as he has no shot anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted November 7, 2011 This story has no impact on my liklihood of voting for him either Shocker! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 7, 2011 Shocker! Yeah, I would think it pretty obvious, based on my record here, that I would oppose a candidate who favors increasing taxes on poor people's food via a national sales tax, while doing away with capital gains tax and estate tax completely. As would anyone else who is not a total dooshbag shill for the rich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted November 7, 2011 I don't know wtf happened and neither do you. You said she didn't report it to anyone at the time. I'm sure you know more than Gloria Allred? Both of you know sh1t. Doesn't stop you from throwing stuff against the wall, does it? If we changed the name of the man being accused from Cain to Obama, you'd be having a focking field day with this. You are the biggest fraud. It's funny you mention this edjr. Some DUDE made similar allegations towards Obama before the 2008 election and I don't think the national media even mentioned it once. Funny how that works, isn't it??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,447 Posted November 7, 2011 It's funny you mention this edjr. Some DUDE made similar allegations towards Obama before the 2008 election and I don't think the national media even mentioned it once. Funny how that works, isn't it??? I actually remember that story pretty well. If that dude had filed a complaint and settled out of court for $35 grand, and several other dudes came forward with similar claims, the story might have had legs. As is, he was just another hardworking American who got porked in the ass by Obummer. How many hours did the lamestream media dedicate to the birth certificate fiasco? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted November 7, 2011 Remember when that woman accused Bush of raping her? Damn the liberal media never would let that go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted November 7, 2011 I actually remember that story pretty well. If that dude had filed a complaint and settled out of court for $35 grand, and several other dudes came forward with similar claims, the story might have had legs. As is, he was just another hardworking American who got porked in the ass by Obummer. How many hours did the lamestream media dedicate to the birth certificate fiasco? THey didn't wait for multiple folks with Cain. In fact, they have actually been running the story for a week with anonymous allegations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 7, 2011 Remember when that woman accused Bush of raping her? Damn the liberal media never would let that go! He wasnt a black conservative, there wasnt any inherant racism to drive the claim. They had to resort to his wifes teen years driving record. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 7, 2011 I actually remember that story pretty well. If that dude had filed a complaint and settled out of court for $35 grand, and several other dudes came forward with similar claims, the story might have had legs. As is, he was just another hardworking American who got porked in the ass by Obummer. How many hours did the lamestream media dedicate to the birth certificate fiasco? Dedicated to discrediting Trumph and defending obama. Fact Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
