How badly will the Packers embarrass the Lions on Thanksgiving?

[Ryedog 0]

Screw watching Nickelback at halftime. I want to see Sho Nuff VS Swamp Dog!

 

Oh, and Lions win! Pack will be exposed.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Screw watching Nickelback at halftime. I want to see Sho Nuff VS Swamp Dog!

 

Oh, and Lions win! Pack will be exposed.

 

Hah!!! Well...anything is better than Nickelback...but the only thing you would see is the puppy curled up in the fetal position or off to tuck in his son.

[edjr 6,607]

Is it even possible to have a thread at FFT without people ending in a sissy slap fight?

[donhaas 18]

Is it even possible to have a thread at FFT without people ending in a sissy slap fight?

 

Agreed... This is a great game coming up.... can we talk about it?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Is it even possible to have a thread at FFT without people ending in a sissy slap fight?

 

Oh why don't you TeBlow me.

[swamp dog 0]

Screw watching Nickelback at halftime. I want to see Sho Nuff VS Swamp Dog!

 

Oh, and Lions win! Pack will be exposed.

 

not predicting a win, but for the record the packers have been exposed several times already this season. they've just gotten away with it up to now.

[edjr 6,607]

Oh why don't you TeBlow me.

 

[donhaas 18]

not predicting a win, but for the record the packers have been exposed several times already this season. they've just gotten away with it up to now.

 

 

As a famous son-tucker April/May warrior once said

 

 

10-0=10-0=10-0

[donhaas 18]

From the Journal-Sentinel

 

 

Packers' Next Opponent: Lions

 

Nov. 22, 2011 |(3) Comments

 

Green Bay - Thanksgiving Day has been a horrible holiday for the Detroit Lions seven years in a row.

 

The Green Bay Packers, who visit Ford Field at 11:30 a.m. Thursday, will try to extend the list of "turkeys" for long-suffering Lions' fans.

 

"Green Bay," an assistant coach for a recent Lions' opponent said. "Because they're the better team. It's not even close.

 

"I'll bet you I end up being close with the score. 38-21, Green Bay. They could (finish 19-0). I think they've got a better shot than the Pats did (in 2007). I'm very impressed with Green Bay."

 

Detroit has lost seven in a row, both straight-up and against the spread, on Thanksgiving. Its average margin of defeat has been 22.9 points.

 

Last season, New England trailed the Lions, 17-10, at halftime before Tom Brady threw four second-half touchdowns and the Patriots rolled, 45-24.

 

The Lions' last victory was over Green Bay, 22-14, in 2003. Brett Favre committed four turnovers, the same number that Aaron Rodgers had committed in the first 10 games.

 

"It will be loud and everything," the coach said. "But Aaron Rodgers will get the crowd out of it in a hurry."

 

Since the Packers' rebirth in 1992, they've gone 10-10 against the Lions in Michigan and 20-0 against them in Wisconsin. Mike McCarthy won his first nine against Detroit before dropping a 7-3 game at Ford Field on Dec. 12, 2010.

 

"Short week, in Detroit, Thanksgiving," an executive in personnel for an NFL team said. "It's going to be a tough matchup against the Lions' front. I'd just say Green Bay has more balance."

 

Upon being hired in January 2009, coach Jim Schwartz spoke of erecting a "barbed wire fence" around the Thanksgiving game. Voracious NFL owners would like to take the game away from Detroit, and Schwartz said it was a tradition "we need to embrace and uphold."

 

In the last decade, the Lions are 1-9 (2-8 against the spread) on Thanksgiving. But, in the seven years before that, they went 5-2, including two victories as an underdog.

 

Since the series began in 1934 at University of Detroit Stadium, the Lions have gone 33-36-2. Their most frequent opponent has been the Packers, against whom the Lions own an 11-7-1 record.

 

When Vince Lombardi coached the Packers, they were 2-2-1 on Thanksgiving Day in Detroit. The 1962 game, when the Lions sacked Bart Starr 11 times, remains one of the greatest games in Detroit franchise history.

 

OFFENSE

 

SCHEME

Play-calling coordinator Scott Linehan, in his third year, employs a one-back set with either three WRs or two TEs. On Sunday, for the first time, the Lions used four WRs. When the Lions run, and they don't very often (35.8%), they feature misdirection out of the shotgun formation that Linehan loves using. The Lions rank third in points (301), tied for 10th in giveaways (14) and 11th in yards (373.5).

 

RECEIVERS

The game plan begins and ends with WR Calvin Johnson (6-foot-5, 236 pounds). Besides great size, Johnson has great speed (4.35 seconds in the 40) and jumping ability (42½-inch vertical jump). If there's single coverage on Johnson, more than likely the ball will be going to him deep. He's phenomenal in the red zone and can be a tremendous blocker. Nate Burleson (6-0½, 198), a 65-game starter for Minnesota and Seattle from 2003-'09, is athletic, nifty and elusive after the catch. He also lacks strength and can be knocked off routes. Rookie Titus Young (5-11½, 174), a second-round pick, remains raw as a route runner but has the quickness and speed (4.41) to separate. He can be pressed, too. Former Bear handyman Rashied Davis (5-9, 187) is starting to contribute from the slot. At TE, Brandon Pettigrew (6-5½, 265) is a complete player, former Bronco Tony Scheffler (6-5½, 255) is a crafty receiver and well-traveled Will Heller (6-6, 275) blocks well. Pettigrew, the 20th pick in '09, isn't overly fast (4.82) but gets open, has nice hands and gets movement as a run blocker. Scheffler lines up everywhere and can go long. He just can't block.

 

OFFENSIVE LINE

Probably the best player on a shaky unit is LG Rob Sims (6-2½, 312), a former Seahawk. He's strong and isn't a bad athlete. C Dominic Raiola (6-2, 295), a starter since 2002, is clever, gung-ho and steady. His size can be exploited by big men. LT Jeff Backus (6-5½, 305), who has 170 straight starts, is struggling more and more against better pass rushers. RG Stephen Peterman (6-4, 323), a five-year starter, is stiff, and doesn't move his feet well. He survives on sheer desire and guile. RT Gosder Cherilus (6-6½, 325) hasn't improved. He's an upright, unorthodox player with long arms, huge hands and a mean streak, but speed gives him fits.

 

QUARTERBACKS

Matthew Stafford (6-2½, 232), the first pick in '09, is 10-13 as a starter. He has a huge arm, an effortless delivery, a score of 35 on the Wonderlic intelligence test and a highly competitive nature. Similar to his days at Georgia, he forces too many throws. He can run (4.82), but under pressure tends to fall down. He has played the last two games with a glove over a right index finger broken Oct. 30. His passer rating of 93.4 ranks eighth. No. 2 Shaun Hill (6-3, 220) has tremendous moxie. No. 3 Drew Stanton (6-3, 230) beat Green Bay in '10.

 

RUNNING BACKS

The Lions really miss scatback Jahvid Best (concussion) and rookie power back Mikel Leshoure (Achilles). After rotating ex-Seahawk Maurice Morris (6-1, 216) and ex-Redskin Keiland Williams (5-11, 230) for three weeks, the Lions re-signed Kevin Smith (6-1, 217) on Nov. 7 for the league minimum. On Sunday, he had 201 running-receiving yards and three TDs in a 49-35 victory over Carolina. The Lions' third-round pick in '08, he weaved in and out of traffic and repeatedly made tacklers miss. Sure, Smith had fresh legs and the Panthers' defense is awful, but his showing couldn't have been more impressive. His career nose-dived after reconstructive knee surgery in December 2009. Morris isn't accomplished at anything but always gives an honest day's work. Williams has 4.52 speed and a chiseled physique.

[Grateful Parrot 0]

not predicting a win, but for the record the packers have been exposed several times already this season. they've just gotten away with it up to now.

 

I'll agree with this. Problem is, that when the defense is exposed and the offense puts up so many points, the other team feels they have to come back quickly, thus making bad decisions. The pack defense has the advantage at this point upon being able to create takeaways.

[redtodd 7]

I am just hoping for a game with minimal defense with a lot of offense, which these teams SHOULD provide.

 

I am not sure how the Packers can defend Megatron other than to pressure the snot out of Stafford and never give him a chance to zero in on Megatron.

 

The Lions have to be able to pressure Rodgers with their front 4 and not over commit to blitzing. The Packers have too many weapons to defend and the Lions should have their hands full, unless the front guys can get in.

 

This game will rest on Stafford. Can he rise up for the big game (this is his biggest, right?) and outpace the Packers and their stacked offense? He at least has the luxury of being at home, but he will need to make quick decisions and get rid of the ball fast.

 

Oh yeah, and also stop the Packers a lot at your own 20 so Crosby kicks a lot of Field Goals (because I have him).

 

I also have the fun decision of deciding whether to play Jordy "Yes, I am white and I am awesome" Neslon or the returning Andre Johnson with Pretty Boy Leinart throwing to him. (DonnyHaas - Any advice?)

[swamp dog 0]

I'll agree with this. Problem is, that when the defense is exposed and the offense puts up so many points, the other team feels they have to come back quickly, thus making bad decisions. The pack defense has the advantage at this point upon being able to create takeaways.

 

bingo. the best post so far in this thread.

 

and for the life of me i can't understand why defenses keep falling for rodgers play-action when the packers haven't had a running game in years.

[swamp dog 0]

"Green Bay," an assistant coach for a recent Lions' opponent said. "Because they're the better team. It's not even close.

 

"I'll bet you I end up being close with the score. 38-21, Green Bay. They could (finish 19-0). I think they've got a better shot than the Pats did (in 2007). I'm very impressed with Green Bay."

 

good to see ryan is still stinging over that loss in dallas

[swamp dog 0]

...so for fans of a team with 10-0 record, there isn't much going on as per them predicting anything for tomorrow's game. chickenshiats. all the cheesed!cks have been walking around here for a month scared shiatless.

 

weird. lol.

[edjr 6,607]

"Green Bay," an assistant coach for a recent Lions' opponent said. "Because they're the better team. It's not even close.

 

"I'll bet you I end up being close with the score. 38-21, Green Bay. They could (finish 19-0). I think they've got a better shot than the Pats did (in 2007). I'm very impressed with Green Bay."

 

good to see ryan is still stinging over that loss in dallas

 

 

Packers 18-0 vs Patriots in the Superbowl. This board will explode if that happens.

[IMMensaMind 462]

Well...Im sure he will be crossing that spot often.

 

I lol'd

[donhaas 18]

 

I also have the fun decision of deciding whether to play Jordy "Yes, I am white and I am awesome" Neslon or the returning Andre Johnson with Pretty Boy Leinart throwing to him. (DonnyHaas - Any advice?)

 

Tampa Bay keyed on Jennings and put ronde Barber on Jermichael Finley.... leaving it wide open for Jordy and Driver to run wild...

 

So it depends entirely on how Detroit wants to defend...

 

Either way, I see James Jones and Cobb getting in on the action and exploiting that Detroit secondary

[Bishop82 61]

34-3 Packers

[IMMensaMind 462]

...so for fans of a team with 10-0 record, there isn't much going on as per them predicting anything for tomorrow's game. chickenshiats. all the cheesed!cks have been walking around here for a month scared shiatless.

 

weird. lol.

 

Way to construct an unwinnable circumstance, swamp. If the GB fans are loud about their team, they're the cockiest SOBs going. If they're quiet, they're scared shiatless.

 

Makes it less desireable to post in your thread here.

[donhaas 18]

Way to construct an unwinnable circumstance, swamp. If the GB fans are loud about their team, they're the cockiest SOBs going. If they're quiet, they're scared shiatless.

 

Makes it less desireable to post in your thread here.

 

Not to mention Sampy will be "Tucking in his son" for a week if the Lions get destroyed...

 

 

This game means everything for Detroit....

 

....not as much for Green Bay.... Their eye is on the big prize with Mr. Lombardi's name on it...

[swamp dog 0]

Way to construct an unwinnable circumstance, swamp. If the GB fans are loud about their team, they're the cockiest SOBs going. If they're quiet, they're scared shiatless.

 

Makes it less desireable to post in your thread here.

 

you're not quiet--you just won't say shiat. maybe instead of posting this you could make am prediction? if you're not enjoying yourself, you're like most packer fans i know. but they're not blaming me for it (although i'll happily accept it in your case).

 

okay, i'll start: lions 38-24

 

gee, what happens if i'm wrong?!!!!

 

gasp!!!!

 

don will sho up (pun intended) :overhead: and act all brave like ike in tombstone. never a doubt. bwahaha.

 

it's the same script every week.

[swamp dog 0]

Not to mention Sampy will be "Tucking in his son" for a week if the Lions get destroyed...

 

 

This game means everything for Detroit....

 

....not as much for Green Bay.... Their eye is on the big prize with Mr. Lombardi's name on it...

 

this does sound like most of the cowards walking around wearing mustard yellow. you've already got the excuse wagon going a full 24 hours before kickoff.

 

grow a pair. your team is 10-0. quit slinking around with your balls sucked up into your chest cavity.

[Sho Nuff 720]

...so for fans of a team with 10-0 record, there isn't much going on as per them predicting anything for tomorrow's game. chickenshiats. all the cheesed!cks have been walking around here for a month scared shiatless.

 

weird. lol.

 

We leave the ridiculous bragging up to you and gloomy...only to watch you all get very quiet and claim you have jobs and lives after losses.

Big win and you two are back to the bragging.

 

Its the endless cycle of the d-bag known as swamp dog.

 

There is no need for us to brag or be scared shaitless about a game with the Lions.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Way to construct an unwinnable circumstance, swamp. If the GB fans are loud about their team, they're the cockiest SOBs going. If they're quiet, they're scared shiatless.

 

Makes it less desireable to post in your thread here.

 

Other than making fun of swamp...posting the crap he wants us to is not very desirable anyone.

And you have him pegged perfectly.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

 

gee, what happens if i'm wrong?!!!!

 

 

 

it's the same script every week.

 

You answered your own question.

[swamp dog 0]

You answered your own question.

 

so you're predicting a packer win. it's a rather circular way to it--but baby steps

 

yes, i've been wrong before. know the difference between me and you? i don't give a fock what you or others think about me or about me when i've been wrong. it's an internet message board. grow a focking pair, you thin-skinned coward.

[donhaas 18]

this does sound like most of the cowards walking around wearing mustard yellow. you've already got the excuse wagon going a full 24 hours before kickoff.

 

grow a pair. your team is 10-0. quit slinking around with your balls sucked up into your chest cavity.

 

Between your interest in my cheesed!ck and your interest in my testicles you are showing a disturbing interest in my genital area, SwampBarneyFrankDog.....

[Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50]

From the Journal-Sentinel

 

 

Packers' Next Opponent: Lions

 

Nov. 22, 2011 |(3) Comments

 

Green Bay - Thanksgiving Day has been a horrible holiday for the Detroit Lions seven years in a row.

 

The Green Bay Packers, who visit Ford Field at 11:30 a.m. Thursday, will try to extend the list of "turkeys" for long-suffering Lions' fans.

 

"Green Bay," an assistant coach for a recent Lions' opponent said. "Because they're the better team. It's not even close.

 

"I'll bet you I end up being close with the score. 38-21, Green Bay. They could (finish 19-0). I think they've got a better shot than the Pats did (in 2007). I'm very impressed with Green Bay."

 

Detroit has lost seven in a row, both straight-up and against the spread, on Thanksgiving. Its average margin of defeat has been 22.9 points.

 

Last season, New England trailed the Lions, 17-10, at halftime before Tom Brady threw four second-half touchdowns and the Patriots rolled, 45-24.

 

The Lions' last victory was over Green Bay, 22-14, in 2003. Brett Favre committed four turnovers, the same number that Aaron Rodgers had committed in the first 10 games.

 

"It will be loud and everything," the coach said. "But Aaron Rodgers will get the crowd out of it in a hurry."

 

Since the Packers' rebirth in 1992, they've gone 10-10 against the Lions in Michigan and 20-0 against them in Wisconsin. Mike McCarthy won his first nine against Detroit before dropping a 7-3 game at Ford Field on Dec. 12, 2010.

 

"Short week, in Detroit, Thanksgiving," an executive in personnel for an NFL team said. "It's going to be a tough matchup against the Lions' front. I'd just say Green Bay has more balance."

 

Upon being hired in January 2009, coach Jim Schwartz spoke of erecting a "barbed wire fence" around the Thanksgiving game. Voracious NFL owners would like to take the game away from Detroit, and Schwartz said it was a tradition "we need to embrace and uphold."

 

In the last decade, the Lions are 1-9 (2-8 against the spread) on Thanksgiving. But, in the seven years before that, they went 5-2, including two victories as an underdog.

 

Since the series began in 1934 at University of Detroit Stadium, the Lions have gone 33-36-2. Their most frequent opponent has been the Packers, against whom the Lions own an 11-7-1 record.

 

When Vince Lombardi coached the Packers, they were 2-2-1 on Thanksgiving Day in Detroit. The 1962 game, when the Lions sacked Bart Starr 11 times, remains one of the greatest games in Detroit franchise history.

 

OFFENSE

 

SCHEME

Play-calling coordinator Scott Linehan, in his third year, employs a one-back set with either three WRs or two TEs. On Sunday, for the first time, the Lions used four WRs. When the Lions run, and they don't very often (35.8%), they feature misdirection out of the shotgun formation that Linehan loves using. The Lions rank third in points (301), tied for 10th in giveaways (14) and 11th in yards (373.5).

 

RECEIVERS

The game plan begins and ends with WR Calvin Johnson (6-foot-5, 236 pounds). Besides great size, Johnson has great speed (4.35 seconds in the 40) and jumping ability (42½-inch vertical jump). If there's single coverage on Johnson, more than likely the ball will be going to him deep. He's phenomenal in the red zone and can be a tremendous blocker. Nate Burleson (6-0½, 198), a 65-game starter for Minnesota and Seattle from 2003-'09, is athletic, nifty and elusive after the catch. He also lacks strength and can be knocked off routes. Rookie Titus Young (5-11½, 174), a second-round pick, remains raw as a route runner but has the quickness and speed (4.41) to separate. He can be pressed, too. Former Bear handyman Rashied Davis (5-9, 187) is starting to contribute from the slot. At TE, Brandon Pettigrew (6-5½, 265) is a complete player, former Bronco Tony Scheffler (6-5½, 255) is a crafty receiver and well-traveled Will Heller (6-6, 275) blocks well. Pettigrew, the 20th pick in '09, isn't overly fast (4.82) but gets open, has nice hands and gets movement as a run blocker. Scheffler lines up everywhere and can go long. He just can't block.

 

OFFENSIVE LINE

Probably the best player on a shaky unit is LG Rob Sims (6-2½, 312), a former Seahawk. He's strong and isn't a bad athlete. C Dominic Raiola (6-2, 295), a starter since 2002, is clever, gung-ho and steady. His size can be exploited by big men. LT Jeff Backus (6-5½, 305), who has 170 straight starts, is struggling more and more against better pass rushers. RG Stephen Peterman (6-4, 323), a five-year starter, is stiff, and doesn't move his feet well. He survives on sheer desire and guile. RT Gosder Cherilus (6-6½, 325) hasn't improved. He's an upright, unorthodox player with long arms, huge hands and a mean streak, but speed gives him fits.

 

QUARTERBACKS

Matthew Stafford (6-2½, 232), the first pick in '09, is 10-13 as a starter. He has a huge arm, an effortless delivery, a score of 35 on the Wonderlic intelligence test and a highly competitive nature. Similar to his days at Georgia, he forces too many throws. He can run (4.82), but under pressure tends to fall down. He has played the last two games with a glove over a right index finger broken Oct. 30. His passer rating of 93.4 ranks eighth. No. 2 Shaun Hill (6-3, 220) has tremendous moxie. No. 3 Drew Stanton (6-3, 230) beat Green Bay in '10.

 

RUNNING BACKS

The Lions really miss scatback Jahvid Best (concussion) and rookie power back Mikel Leshoure (Achilles). After rotating ex-Seahawk Maurice Morris (6-1, 216) and ex-Redskin Keiland Williams (5-11, 230) for three weeks, the Lions re-signed Kevin Smith (6-1, 217) on Nov. 7 for the league minimum. On Sunday, he had 201 running-receiving yards and three TDs in a 49-35 victory over Carolina. The Lions' third-round pick in '08, he weaved in and out of traffic and repeatedly made tacklers miss. Sure, Smith had fresh legs and the Panthers' defense is awful, but his showing couldn't have been more impressive. His career nose-dived after reconstructive knee surgery in December 2009. Morris isn't accomplished at anything but always gives an honest day's work. Williams has 4.52 speed and a chiseled physique.

 

 

eh..hem (I know you showed both sides so don't get your panties in a bunch)

 

This is not the Lions of the last decade.

 

If GB wishes to play this team as they would have the Lions of the last decade... they will meet some new faces.

 

We have this new QB Matthew Stafford... first time he has been around for most of the season.

Not for nothin' but this kid has heart and does not give up when he is in a ditch.

 

Lions running game will improve with Kevin Smith. GB will have to respect the run so you can just get over that.

 

GB will basically have Ryan Grant running tomorrow. Detroit is not worried about Ryan Grant running.

 

Soooo... we will keep the heat on Aaron Rodgers early and often and let them run Grant into the brick wall.

May I introduce Suh and Fairley?

 

With Kevin Smith breaking some runs, this will soften up coverage on receivers at least Young and Pettigrew and when they get their TDs, Calvin will be there to get his. Kevin Smith will get at least one TD.

 

Crowd will be deafening... hope GB knows their counts. False start... Offense 5 yard penalty... repeat first down ... we will be gettin a lot of this!

 

And I did spit on the 50yd line so if Aaron Rodgers slips on the 50 for no aparent reason... that was me!

 

The Capn'

[swamp dog 0]

We leave the ridiculous bragging up to you and gloomy...only to watch you all get very quiet and claim you have jobs and lives after losses.

Big win and you two are back to the bragging.

 

Its the endless cycle of the d-bag known as swamp dog.

 

There is no need for us to brag or be scared shaitless about a game with the Lions.

 

back from your half-hour lunch break, i see. those bathrooms in the executive offices won't get cleaned and you'll never get home at this rate.

[swamp dog 0]

Between your interest in my cheesed!ck and your interest in my testicles you are showing a disturbing interest in my genital area, SwampBarneyFrankDog.....

 

i see sho has gotten you to join the tea party

[IMMensaMind 462]

you're not quiet--you just won't say shiat. maybe instead of posting this you could make am prediction? if you're not enjoying yourself, you're like most packer fans i know. but they're not blaming me for it (although i'll happily accept it in your case).

 

okay, i'll start: lions 38-24

 

gee, what happens if i'm wrong?!!!!

 

gasp!!!!

 

don will sho up (pun intended) :overhead: and act all brave like ike in tombstone. never a doubt. bwahaha.

 

it's the same script every week.

 

See my prediction in post #46, you brain donor.

 

[IMMensaMind 462]

eh..hem (I know you showed both sides so don't get your panties in a bunch)

 

This is not the Lions of the last decade.

 

If GB wishes to play this team as they would have the Lions of the last decade... they will meet some new faces.

 

We have this new QB Matthew Stafford... first time he has been around for most of the season.

Not for nothin' but this kid has heart and does not give up when he is in a ditch.

 

Lions running game will improve with Kevin Smith. GB will have to respect the run so you can just get over that.

 

GB will basically have Ryan Grant running tomorrow. Detroit is not worried about Ryan Grant running.

 

Soooo... we will keep the heat on Aaron Rodgers early and often and let them run Grant into the brick wall.

May I introduce Suh and Fairley?

 

With Kevin Smith breaking some runs, this will soften up coverage on receivers at least Young and Pettigrew and when they get their TDs, Calvin will be there to get his. Kevin Smith will get at least one TD.

 

Crowd will be deafening... hope GB knows their counts. False start... Offense 5 yard penalty... repeat first down ... we will be gettin a lot of this!

 

And I did spit on the 50yd line so if Aaron Rodgers slips on the 50 for no aparent reason... that was me!

 

The Capn'

 

Detroit has not stopped the run effectively this year.

[Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50]

Detroit has not stopped the run effectively this year.

 

 

Won't have to with Grant as the lead back.

[swamp dog 0]

See my prediction in post #46, you brain donor.

 

 

see that? you point out where i was wrong. oops! my bad. you are correct. i missed that.

 

for your other brethren: see? that didn't hurt at all. you too can stick your neck out. dare to...well, dare

[IMMensaMind 462]

see that? you point out where i was wrong. oops! my bad. you are correct. i missed that.

 

for your other brethren: see? that didn't hurt at all. you too can stick your neck out. dare to...well, dare

 

[swamp dog 0]

Detroit has not stopped the run effectively this year.

 

true to a certain extent. they've actually been much better as of late (even the most recent chi game, believe it or not). the overall problem has been that they have been effective at stopping the run about 80 percent of the time--but there's about 3 plays a game where they've been gashed and a majority of the fat yardage total has come from those small handful of plays.

 

i would say it's misrepresentation to say that teams have been lining up against them and just running the ball down their throats play after play.

[Sho Nuff 720]

so you're predicting a packer win. it's a rather circular way to it--but baby steps

 

yes, i've been wrong before. know the difference between me and you? i don't give a fock what you or others think about me or about me when i've been wrong. it's an internet message board. grow a focking pair, you thin-skinned coward.

 

Yes, Im predicting the Packers win in a good game.

My point was that you are wrong all the focking time.

 

BTW...if you think I give a fock what you think about me...you are dumber than I think (and right now I have you pegged pretty focking low).

 

 

Grow a pair is funny...as if guessing on a game to complete strangers anonymously is a sign that anyone is a manly man (and we already know you are not).

That your biggest macho thing you can come up with is predicting a game on the internet says a lot about you.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I also love how a good game against Carolina means that Kevin Smith is the savior of the Detroit running game.

[swamp dog 0]

Yes, Im predicting the Packers win in a good game.

My point was that you are wrong all the focking time.

 

BTW...if you think I give a fock what you think about me...you are dumber than I think (and right now I have you pegged pretty focking low).

 

 

Grow a pair is funny...as if guessing on a game to complete strangers anonymously is a sign that anyone is a manly man (and we already know you are not).

That your biggest macho thing you can come up with is predicting a game on the internet says a lot about you.

 

another baby step for sho

 

we've had this conversation before: you admit that it's no biggie...yet you and your ilk won't stick your neck out to make any substantive or concrete predictions. it's not hard, you admit. but obviously too hard and too scary for you most days.

 

and, yes, you most certainly are afraid of being wrong. that's why you and don post here mere seconds after a game in which you like the outcome--and take days to slink in here through the backdoor when it's not an outcome you like

[swamp dog 0]

I also love how a good game against Carolina means that Kevin Smith is the savior of the Detroit running game.

 

why is a good bible-loving christian man such as yourself so dour all the time? come, now. just as a feel-good story alone, kevin's story this thankful holiday season should be inspiring and fill your heart with good cheer...right?

 

you sure do have a bah-humbug attitude for having all the answers. why is it that religious conservatives like you are always so dang unhappy?

 

kevin smith is no savior, let alone a savior for a running game. baby jesus is our savior. rejoice and be glad in it.