How badly will the Packers embarrass the Lions on Thanksgiving?

[Arsenal 3]

Carolina can score points. 23 against Green Bay. 29 against Chicago. 27 against New Orleans....no team other than Green Bay and Houston has put up that many points against the Saints.

 

Sorry, I am trying to adjust my mindset here because I have been watching the Packers play all season long and any score in the 20s seems really low.

 

Yesterday marked Carolina's season high in scoring. The week before that, the Bears hung 37 on them. People keep mentioning their defense as their strong point, so it just makes you wonder. I mean, I know they have a "reputation" and get a lot of penalties, but that doesn't seem to translate into actual production against halfway decent offenses.

[NE-TheGoodLife 0]

Sorry, I am trying to adjust my mindset here because I have been watching the Packers play all season long and any score in the 20s seems really low.

 

Yesterday marked Carolina's season high in scoring. The week before that, the Bears hung 37 on them. People keep mentioning their defense as their strong point, so it just makes you wonder. I mean, I know they have a "reputation" and get a lot of penalties, but that doesn't seem to translate into actual production against halfway decent offenses.

 

 

To me it appears their mindset is bend but don't break . They get pressure with their front four and have average to decent linebackers. Where they have problems is in the secondary. This is why you do not see very many blitz packages from Detroit. They play alot of base type defensive setups and try, and I mean try, to have as many people in the passing lanes as possible. This is compounded by the fact that the Def Coord likes to play zone coverage or man to man on the outsides with roll over coverage from the two safeties. When this happens you see alot of seam routes down the middle where the linebackers typically get exposed.

 

If this organization moves forward and brings in decent to very good cornerbacks and safeties, watch out. But for now they are pretty good when the front four gets good pressure or wreaks havoc. Otherwise they are, eh.

 

Just my take.

[SaintsInDome2006 441]

Is there some reason to expect something different than what we saw with San Diego and the Saints?

 

Biggest problem Detroit has is the lack of a pretense of a running game (and no the Kevin vs Carolina game does not count).

 

This should be a great game; since this is a lose-lose for the Saints I will be pulling for the Lions I think.

[Phurfur 70]

To me it appears their mindset is bend but don't break .

 

You break when you give up points. HTH

[Buttmonkey 8]

Seriously, there are people on this board that actually think the Lions will beat the Packers? Come on man! Packers 42, Lions 13

[IMMensaMind 462]

I think the Lions match up very well with Green Bay. I see a one point Green Bay victory: 35-34.

[roroco 75]

I think the Lions match up very well with Green Bay. I see a one point Green Bay victory: 35-34.

I am curious. Why do you say that? You have a great D-Line, but Rodgers won't give them time to get to him with his quick release. Do you think the Lions have enough depth in the secondary to match up with all the Packers offense? On the other side of the ball, the Packers are good at slowing down the run, and while they are not deep at the secondary, they play well against single or double threat receiver teams.

 

Why do you say they match up well?

[IMMensaMind 462]

I am curious. Why do you say that? You have a great D-Line, but Rodgers won't give them time to get to him with his quick release. Do you think the Lions have enough depth in the secondary to match up with all the Packers offense? On the other side of the ball, the Packers are good at slowing down the run, and while they are not deep at the secondary, they play well against single or double threat receiver teams.

 

Why do you say they match up well?

 

I'm a Green Bay fan btw.

 

They match up well because they can pressure the QB and they have a great offense. The only other team that matches that description gave Green Bay everything they could handle in week one.

[thePRO 78]

Pretty uneducated post but it's to be expected I guess when considering the source.

 

Bears and Lions can create problems for the Packers because they can get pressure on Rodgers from their front 4.

 

Packers D gives more than it takes away.

 

This should be a very close game. Green Bay can expect Detroit's very best shot. This is a huge game for Detroit and I'm assuming they've learned from losing their heads in the Chicago game. I think they'll be playing smarter.

 

Sounds to me like you're the uninformed one!! Have you even seen the Lions defense lately? How about more like LACK of pressure. Suh has been near invisible all year and aside from the Broncos game, this Lions d-line hasn't lived up to expectations.

 

Green Bay's O line is improved from last year....Packers got this one! Lions should play extra tough for that 1st half, maybe even have a 3 pt lead, but Rodgers will tear em' up in the 2nd half.

 

38-24 Packers (wanted to say 45-31 but hmmm) Lions up at half 21-17! Then Rodgers tears em up!

[roroco 75]

I'm a Green Bay fan btw.

 

They match up well because they can pressure the QB and they have a great offense. The only other team that matches that description gave Green Bay everything they could handle in week one.

Their offense and defensive lines might give the pack some fits, but the Lions are going to have issues when the Pack go 5 wide (actually all teams will). And on offense, I believe it has been a while since Stafford played against the packers. Let see how he handles Capers blitzes. His best games seem to have been when he has had tome to get the ball deep to Megatron.

[swamp dog 0]

Sorry, I am trying to adjust my mindset here because I have been watching the Packers play all season long and any score in the 20s seems really low.

 

Yesterday marked Carolina's season high in scoring. The week before that, the Bears hung 37 on them. People keep mentioning their defense as their strong point, so it just makes you wonder. I mean, I know they have a "reputation" and get a lot of penalties, but that doesn't seem to translate into actual production against halfway decent offenses.

 

wow. where to start.

 

the bears "hung 37" on the lions defense? really?

 

2 bear interceptions returned for tds (14 points). hester returned a punt for a td. subtract those 21 points and put in cutler's stats of 9/19 for 123 yards and forte's 18 rushes for 64 yards.

 

i'm not claiming the lions defense is all-world, but at least be living in the general zip code of the "ball park of reality" when discussing this issue.

 

thanks in advance.

[swamp dog 0]

Sounds to me like you're the uninformed one!! Have you even seen the Lions defense lately? How about more like LACK of pressure. Suh has been near invisible all year and aside from the Broncos game, this Lions d-line hasn't lived up to expectations.

 

Green Bay's O line is improved from last year....Packers got this one! Lions should play extra tough for that 1st half, maybe even have a 3 pt lead, but Rodgers will tear em' up in the 2nd half.

 

38-24 Packers (wanted to say 45-31 but hmmm) Lions up at half 21-17! Then Rodgers tears em up!

 

the lions are around #8 in sacks in the nfl. #9 in total defense, #5 against the pass.

 

you also apparently missed the 2 interceptions suh caused sunday--including the game clincher when he pushed both the center and the guard into newton's ribs. ah, of course you missed that--you just check the box scores every sunday evening and label yourself a genius.

 

well, i won't rain on your little fantasy. you go, genius

[NE-TheGoodLife 0]

You break when you give up points. HTH

 

 

I get the whole when you break you give up points. My point was to convey what I see how the Lions approach their defense. Whether or not I am right, I am just giving my opinion. I am assuming you disagree.

[thePRO 78]

the lions are around #8 in sacks in the nfl. #9 in total defense, #5 against the pass.

 

you also apparently missed the 2 interceptions suh caused sunday--including the game clincher when he pushed both the center and the guard into newton's ribs. ah, of course you missed that--you just check the box scores every sunday evening and label yourself a genius.

 

well, i won't rain on your little fantasy. you go, genius

 

Lol and what's your source? Nfl.com/stats?

 

GTFO here with that B.S. They haven't been playing close to as good as they were earlier in the season. And maybe part of the problem is that Stafford seems to F up and put them in a bad position, but they've played well 4 out of their last 5 games! So stick your stats you know where.

 

Green Bay will be the best offense they've played all year, so cheers back to you Mr. Let's just look at stats and not games!

 

[swamp dog 0]

Lol and what's your source? Nfl.com/stats?

 

GTFO here with that B.S. They haven't been playing close to as good as they were earlier in the season. And maybe part of the problem is that Stafford seems to F up and put them in a bad position, but they've played well 4 out of their last 5 games! So stick your stats you know where.

 

Green Bay will be the best offense they've played all year, so cheers back to you Mr. Let's just look at stats and not games!

 

 

espn. and nfl.

 

so i guess instead of that we should just take wholesale your sublime generalizations and blind conjectures. okay then

[thePRO 78]

espn. and nfl.

 

so i guess instead of that we should just take wholesale your sublime generalizations and blind conjectures. okay then

 

Stats can always be misleading! They started bad against the Panthers, got it going, and then let a few big drives to let the Panthers back in the game! I think instead of looking at stats...etc...maybe you should just watch the games instead?

 

They've haven't come up big when it's needed and I don't expect to see it in the 2nd half against the Packers! Facts buddy.

 

[swamp dog 0]

Stats can always be misleading! They started bad against the Panthers, got it going, and then let a few big drives to let the Panthers back in the game! I think instead of looking at stats...etc...maybe you should just watch the games instead?

 

They've haven't come up big when it's needed and I don't expect to see it in the 2nd half against the Packers! Facts buddy.

 

 

i'm not arguing who will and won't win the game. you can think the packers will win, that's fine. just don't use stupidity to make your decision.

 

go the rick perry route and keep it simple. you can say the packers are going to crush the lions and leave it at that. but when you start giving your "reasons," you start making people go about your knowledge.

 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Normally I would say there is real upset potential with this game. But Stafford has been having some huge accuracy issues lately. Not good when you are going against an opportunistic defense. Say what you want about the Packers D this year but they have been generating turnovers.

 

If Stafford has a great game then I like the Lions to keep it close and maybe even pull it out. Otherwise I see the Packers running away with it.

[swamp dog 0]

Normally I would say there is real upset potential with this game. But Stafford has been having some huge accuracy issues lately. Not good when you are going against an opportunistic defense. Say what you want about the Packers D this year but they have been generating turnovers.

 

If Stafford has a great game then I like the Lions to keep it close and maybe even pull it out. Otherwise I see the Packers running away with it.

 

he's completed 62 percent of his passes this year. he had a bad game in chi, yes. we all agree on that. he certainly had no accuracy issues sunday the biggest problem with most of you? you still can't get the stink of the millen era out of your nostrils. it taints everything now set in front of you and makes you think everything is spoiled. brees, for example, has 23 tds and 11 interceptions. stafford is 25 and 10. yet most of you idiots seem perplexed on whether you should own rex grossman or stafford--or leinart and stafford--moving forward.

 

millen is gone. get the fock over it. lion fans have. you should too.

 

the lions need to take 1 of the next 2 games (this one or the one at the saints) to keep their "good" chance of the playoffs intact. a difficult challenge, yes. impossible? no.

 

i get this is a tough game for the lions. on the other hand, no one is mentioning too much that this potentially going to be a tough game for the packers. go back and look at their gaudy record. who have they beaten of note? it's not like they've been knocking off world-class teams week after week. get real.

[Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50]

Lions will bring it on Thanksgiving Day

 

Defense Defense

 

GB Defense will give up points to Calvin

 

 

It is going to be bloody... I want to see Aaron Rodgers running for his life... and throwing pics on the run.

 

 

Staffard needs to stay calm and not throw stupid pics. Just get it down the field 10-20 yards at a time.

Get a lead and eat the clock... Keep Rodgers off the field is our only shot!

 

Kevin Smith will add a wrinkle for the home slice Lions... he WILL be able to run on the Pack.

Pound Smith a few times and its off to the races with Calvin, Young, and Pettigrew.

 

 

Lions 38 Packers 24

 

 

The Capn' (will be celebrating Thursday night)

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Seriously, there are people on this board that actually think the Lions will beat the Packers?

 

It's possible just not probable.

 

I'm just looking at a Green Bay defense that made Freeman and the Bucs look good plus the game is in Detroit. It'll be a good game though......

[swamp dog 0]

It's possible just not probable.

 

I'm just looking at a Green Bay defense that made Freeman and the Bucs look good plus the game is in Detroit. It'll be a good game though......

 

it is certainly luke vs. the death star. the packers are the greatest team in the history of the known universe, after all.

 

anything less than a blowout and the cheesed!cks will be spilling turkey grease all over their keyboards typing "wtf is wrong with our packers, the greatest team in the history of the known universe?!!!"

[Sho Nuff 720]

he's completed 62 percent of his passes this year. he had a bad game in chi, yes. we all agree on that. he certainly had no accuracy issues sunday the biggest problem with most of you? you still can't get the stink of the millen era out of your nostrils. it taints everything now set in front of you and makes you think everything is spoiled. brees, for example, has 23 tds and 11 interceptions. stafford is 25 and 10. yet most of you idiots seem perplexed on whether you should own rex grossman or stafford--or leinart and stafford--moving forward.

 

millen is gone. get the fock over it. lion fans have. you should too.

 

the lions need to take 1 of the next 2 games (this one or the one at the saints) to keep their "good" chance of the playoffs intact. a difficult challenge, yes. impossible? no.

 

i get this is a tough game for the lions. on the other hand, no one is mentioning too much that this potentially going to be a tough game for the packers. go back and look at their gaudy record. who have they beaten of note? it's not like they've been knocking off world-class teams week after week. get real.

 

Whats great is you consistently make up reasons why people might criticize the Lions.

Nobody mentioned Millen...just as no Packer fans mentioned the press earlier in the year and there are years of examples of you doing this.

 

He mentioned accuracy because the guy has thrown 6 INTs in the last 2 games and is now going up against a team that leads the league in INTs on defense.

[Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50]

The long line to slob Rodgers' knob:

 

 

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[Sho Nuff 720]

it is certainly luke vs. the death star. the packers are the greatest team in the history of the known universe, after all.

 

anything less than a blowout and the cheesed!cks will be spilling turkey grease all over their keyboards typing "wtf is wrong with our packers, the greatest team in the history of the known universe?!!!"

 

We will?

Wow...you really do live in your own little world of delusion don't you?

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Sounds to me like you're the uninformed one!! Have you even seen the Lions defense lately? How about more like LACK of pressure. Suh has been near invisible all year and aside from the Broncos game, this Lions d-line hasn't lived up to expectations.

 

Green Bay's O line is improved from last year....Packers got this one! Lions should play extra tough for that 1st half, maybe even have a 3 pt lead, but Rodgers will tear em' up in the 2nd half.

 

38-24 Packers (wanted to say 45-31 but hmmm) Lions up at half 21-17! Then Rodgers tears em up!

I live in Michigan so I see them every week. The Packers have been getting by without Clifton at LT for awhile but Sherrod will have his hands full this week. Trust me when I tell you that the Lions will get plenty of pressure on Rodgers Thursday. Ford Field will be deafening and the Packers are about to get Detroit's best shot.

 

Green Bay has given up 25 sacks, or 2.5 per game so far this year. Last year they gave up a total of 38 sacks, under 2.4 sacks per game. The stats don't tell me that Green Bay's OL is all that improved over last year. Rodgers may have improved since last year but I don't know that I'd say the OL has.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

it is certainly luke vs. the death star. the packers are the greatest team in the history of the known universe, after all.

Is this the bedtime story you tell your kid when you're tucking him in night-night?

[Ryedog 0]

Lions- 38

 

Discount Double Check- 23

[donhaas 18]

Is this the bedtime story you tell your kid when you're tucking him in night-night?

 

:pointstosky:

[Sho Nuff 720]

I live in Michigan so I see them every week. The Packers have been getting by without Clifton at LT for awhile but Sherrod will have his hands full this week. Trust me when I tell you that the Lions will get plenty of pressure on Rodgers Thursday. Ford Field will be deafening and the Packers are about to get Detroit's best shot.

 

Green Bay has given up 25 sacks, or 2.5 per game so far this year. Last year they gave up a total of 38 sacks, under 2.4 sacks per game. The stats don't tell me that Green Bay's OL is all that improved over last year. Rodgers may have improved since last year but I don't know that I'd say the OL has.

 

Sherrod? Something happen to Newhouse?

The OL has...watch how many of those sacks is Rodgers trying to let things develop and not getting rid of the ball.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Sherrod? Something happen to Newhouse?

The OL has...watch how many of those sacks is Rodgers trying to let things develop and not getting rid of the ball.

Sorry, wrong LT.

 

Okay, the OL is better in your opinion. So then are you or are you not concerned about the front four of Detroit in this game? About how Newhouse will perform?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Sorry, wrong LT.

 

Okay, the OL is better in your opinion. So then are you or are you not concerned about the front four of Detroit in this game? About how Newhouse will perform?

 

Sure it is a concern.

Newhouse has been decent except when facing a big time speed rusher (see Jared Allen).

 

Rodgers needs to be sure to get the ball out quick and not keep waiting for big plays to develop at times.

Id say a good 1/3 of the sacks could have been avoided this year. However...he makes up for that by not forcing the ball and throwing INTs. So as long as he is not getting hit too hard and getting hurt...the sack is better than one of the big bad alternatives.

[Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50]

Lions- 38

 

Discount Double Check- 23

 

Love that commercial - ha ha

 

Thats my touchdown dance

Ha Ha so you're a dancer

No I'm a quarterback

Ohhhhh quarterback

Rrrrrrrrrr

I'm a robot

ROOOOODGAAAAS!... discount double-check

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Rv7czl9cU

[Ryedog 0]

Love that commercial - ha ha

 

Thats my touchdown dance

Ha Ha so you're a dancer

No I'm a quarterback

Ohhhhh quarterback

Rrrrrrrrrr

I'm a robot

ROOOOODGAAAAS!... discount double-check

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Rv7czl9cU

 

At least we know that Rodgers has a career in the commercial business after we end his career this Thursday!

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

At least we know that Rodgers has a career in the commercial business after we end his career this Thursday!

Who is we? You, Gillooly, Eckhardt, and Harding?

[swamp dog 0]

We will?

Wow...you really do live in your own little world of delusion don't you?

 

unlike you, i live in cheesed!ck land. i see them and converse with them everywhere: work, play, bars, restaurants, standing in lines at the checkout. by and large they're all wound pretty tight about the perfect record and rodgers playing other-worldly and any time there is a *hint* of a chink in the armor they're freaking out and over-analyzing why. probably the most dour group of fans of an undefeated team i've ever seen. you should have seen the wailing and gnashing of teeth around here on monday after the packers "only" won by 9 points. lol

 

there's a group of people i work with who wear packer gear every day (pretty much). in the break rooms they're all moaning every day about "rodgers can't keep this up!" and "they're peaking too soon!!!" it's hilarious.

 

where the fock are you? oh, that's right: in the hills of tennessee.

 

please don't tell me what the cheesed!ck nation is thinking, feeling, or saying.

 

thanks in advance, champ.

[Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50]

Who is we? You, Gillooly, Eckhardt, and Harding?

 

 

Hey Man whatever it takes... ha ha

[swamp dog 0]

Love that commercial - ha ha

 

Thats my touchdown dance

Ha Ha so you're a dancer

No I'm a quarterback

Ohhhhh quarterback

Rrrrrrrrrr

I'm a robot

ROOOOODGAAAAS!... discount double-check

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Rv7czl9cU

 

this reminds me of rick perry trying to make fun of himself for being a forgetful douche. this is why i call rodgers "shooter mcgavin."

 

how weenie-esque and self-important is that little title-belt shiat he does after each touchdown? at least favre just waved his "we're #1" finger.

 

rodgers needs to relax and stop acting so affected.

[Laurence Maroney's Nuts 2]

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Also Hill > Stafford (who I am starting this week)

 

Wow.

 

Just wow.

[donhaas 18]

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