IGotWorms 4,060 Posted January 8, 2012 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/us/politics/pro-gingrich-pac-plans-tv-ads-against-romney.html?hp Pro-Gingrich PAC Details Ads Against Romney’s Bain RoleBy TRIP GABRIEL and NICHOLAS CONFESSORE MANCHESTER, N.H. — Thanks to a $5 million donation from a wealthy casino owner, a group supporting New Gingrich plans to place advertisements in South Carolina this week attacking Mitt Romney as a predatory capitalist who destroyed jobs and communities, adding a full-scale Republican dimension to an assault on Mr. Romney’s business background. The advertisements, a counterpunch to a campaign waged against Mr. Gingrich by a group backing Mr. Romney, will be built on excerpts from a scathing movie about Bain Capital, the private equity firm Mr. Romney once ran. The movie, financed by a Republican operative who wants to stop the party from nominating Mr. Romney, includes emotional interviews with people who lost jobs at companies that Bain bought and later sold. “We had to load up the U-Haul because we done lost our home,” one woman says. Democrats have signaled that they intend to make Mr. Romney’s history at Bain a key part of their case against him if he wins the Republican presidential nomination. But Bain has also emerged as an issue in the Republican primary, despite the party’s pro-free market stance and business-friendly policies, reflecting the depth of public anger about the economy. At an appearance here on Sunday, Mr. Gingrich suggested that Bain’s approach was to carry out “clever legal ways to loot a company.” ... The Bain-centered campaign strikes at the heart of Mr. Romney’s argument for his qualifications as president — that as a successful executive in the private sector, he learned how to create jobs — and advances an argument that President Obama’s re-election campaign has signaled it would employ aggressively against Mr. Romney. “His business success comes from raiding and destroy businesses — putting people out of work, stealing their health care,” said Rick Tyler, a senior adviser to the pro-Gingrich super PAC, Winning Our Future, which recently bought the film, “King of Bain: When Mitt Romney Came to Town,” after groups backing two other Republican candidates passed up opportunities to use it. I fully expected this to come up in the general election if Romney won the nomination, but I am a little surprised to see this coming up in the Republican primary. Is this really going to be an issue for Republican primary voters? I kinda thought their love for the free market would be such that nobody would really care what Bain Capital did under Romney's watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 9, 2012 Wow! Candidates trailing the leader in the polls going after him. Great find Worms. Gotta be the first time this has happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted January 9, 2012 Wow! Candidates trailing the leader in the polls going after him. Great find Worms. Gotta be the first time this has happened. Nope, quite the contrary. Obviously the other candidates are going to go after Romney, I was just surprised at the subject matter they chose. But since you don't have any constructive thoughts on that feel free to refrain from posting in this thread in the future. TIA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted January 9, 2012 Wow! Candidates trailing the leader in the polls going after him. Great find Worms. Gotta be the first time this has happened. Romney's a "system" candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 9, 2012 But since you don't have any constructive thoughts on that feel free to refrain from posting in this thread in the future. TIA. Constructive thoughts? How's this: You are a moron for being blindsided by candidates using any subject they can to make their opponents look bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted January 9, 2012 Constructive thoughts? How's this: You are a moron for being blindsided by candidates using any subject they can to make their opponents look bad. Thanks for your input. You can stop reposting the same thing now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 9, 2012 Let me help you out Worms, just so you don't get caught off guard and have a heart attack during the general election. Once a Rep nominee is set he will turn his ads toward Obama and his Obamacare debacle, lies, flip-flops, and train wreck of a record on the economy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 9, 2012 Maybe its just me, but i think this whole marketing campaign to demagogue business is going to blow up in people's faces... Holding it against someone successful for making the tough decisions that led to success i think is a failboat plan... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 9, 2012 Maybe its just me, but i think this whole marketing campaign to demagogue business is going to blow up in people's faces... Holding it against someone successful for making the tough decisions that led to success i think is a failboat plan... success and Jesus are Satan to libtard ears Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 9, 2012 “His business success comes from raiding and destroy businesses — putting people out of work, stealing their health care,” Pretty loaded statement there... What type of a clown would say that? Fascist statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedStudent 56 Posted January 9, 2012 "His business success comes from raiding and destroy businesses — putting people out of work, stealing their health care," Pretty loaded statement there... What type of a clown would say that? Fascist statement. Newt would: "They apparently looted the companies, left people unemployed and walked off with millions of dollars," Gingrich said on NBC's "Today." "Look, I'm for capitalism, I'm for people who go in to save a company. ... If somebody comes in, takes all the money out of your company, and then leaves you bankrupt while they go off with millions, that's not traditional capitalism." http://thehill.com/video/campaign/203047-gingrich-amps-up-criticism-of-romneys-bain-performance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,590 Posted January 9, 2012 Newt would: http://thehill.com/video/campaign/203047-gingrich-amps-up-criticism-of-romneys-bain-performance It's pretty funny to see a shill like Newt accuse Romney of unethical business practices. I also got a kick out of Newt waxing poetic about the sanctity of marriage. Next he'll start lecturing us on the benefits of diet and exercise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 9, 2012 Newt would: http://thehill.com/video/campaign/203047-gingrich-amps-up-criticism-of-romneys-bain-performance Just a spinjob... Libs hate the idea of unproductive people losing their jobs... Their favorite jobs are ones that contribute little to nothing to society... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,590 Posted January 9, 2012 Just a spinjob... Libs hate the idea of unproductive people losing their jobs... Their favorite jobs are ones that contribute little to nothing to society... Funny how guys like you and RP spend all workday lecturing others on productivity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 9, 2012 Funny how guys like you and RP spend all workday lecturing others on productivity. I don't recall doing this. Perhaps you have some posts of mine where I spend all day doing this. Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted January 9, 2012 Just a spinjob... Libs hate the idea of unproductive people losing their jobs... Their favorite jobs are ones that contribute little to nothing to society... So Newt is a "lib" now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 9, 2012 So Newt is a "lib" now? Maybe so. Apparently Medstoopid is a Newt believer these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedStudent 56 Posted January 9, 2012 Just a spinjob... Libs hate the idea of unproductive people losing their jobs... Their favorite jobs are ones that contribute little to nothing to society... Conservatives hate the idea of hard working productive workers. they would rather destroy a company than see a productive worker employed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 9, 2012 Conservatives hate the idea of hard working productive workers. they would rather destroy a company than see a productive worker employed. lol, i see what you are trying to do here, just makes no sense... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 9, 2012 So Newt is a "lib" now? No, he just doesn't have alot of angles to go after Romney... Apparently he is trying to paint Romney as a Gordon Gekko/face of wall st type... i just don't think people are going to buy that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,682 Posted January 9, 2012 That is why Obama got the D nomination. He had no record, as he has never done anything, ever. There were no negative ads to run against his past. When will the parties smarten up and stop running negative ads during the primaries and hurting their own side? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,145 Posted January 9, 2012 lol, i see what you are trying to do here, just makes no sense... Your comment made no sense, just more Repub propaganda. Meds comment actually relates to the story and this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted January 9, 2012 Just a spinjob... Libs hate the idea of unproductive people losing their jobs... Their favorite jobs are ones that contribute little to nothing to society... What about this thread has to do with liberals? Unless I forgot to take my crazy pills this morning, isn't this about a Newt PAC launching a campaign to demonize Mitt for putting a whole bunch of people out of work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 9, 2012 What about this thread has to do with liberals? Unless I forgot to take my crazy pills this morning, isn't this about a Newt PAC launching a campaign to demonize Mitt for putting a whole bunch of people out of work? It wasn't Mitt's fault..........it just happened to be at the end of the year when every company lays people off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 9, 2012 Your comment made no sense, just more Repub propaganda. Meds comment actually relates to the story and this thread. Meh, it makes no sense.. Only if you have a backwards view of how business works... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 9, 2012 What about this thread has to do with liberals? Unless I forgot to take my crazy pills this morning, isn't this about a Newt PAC launching a campaign to demonize Mitt for putting a whole bunch of people out of work? The angle is liberal... This whole forget the details/fact/reality, lets just get all emotionally uppity over over the circle of life... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 71 Posted January 9, 2012 I don't recall doing this. Perhaps you have some posts of mine where I spend all day doing this. Thanks in advance. You don't follow instruction well. You were asked nicely to stop posting in this thread. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted January 9, 2012 Look, I'm not really interested in the topic at hand, I'm here to cry about liberals and chew bubble gum AND I AM OUT OF BUBBLE GUM! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted January 9, 2012 The angle is liberal... This whole forget the details/fact/reality, lets just get all emotionally uppity over over the circle of life... OK. So if a politician does something that you do not agree with, you just call them a liberal. Even though they aren't a liberal. Got it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 9, 2012 That is why Obama got the D nomination. He had no record, as he has never done anything, ever. There were no negative ads to run against his past. When will the parties smarten up and stop running negative ads during the primaries and hurting their own side? The reverend wright stuff was pretty negative as was the paying millions to hide everything about his past. Unfortunately the MSM has an agenda and was more then willing to cooperate in squashing those negative stories. Obama wasn't vetted like a conservative is was and will be. Too many ass clowns with blinders on drinking the cool aid. Never mind the whole him giving blow jobs story no one ever heard about but if looked into is very credible. Kool aid ....drink it libtards, lap it up like the puppies you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 9, 2012 OK. So if a politician does something that you do not agree with, you just call them a liberal. Even though they aren't a liberal. Got it. If a conservative republican changes course and starts hamming up to the occupy crowd to gain lost ground to his more moderate competitor, I see it as a sign of desperation... His poll numbers in NH/SC confirm this theory... The angle itself is ludacrious and completely non sensical to any who operate in reality... Those who don't operate in the businessworld apparently lap this ###### up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted January 9, 2012 If a conservative republican changes course and starts hamming up to the occupy crowd to gain lost ground to his more moderate competitor, I see it as a sign of desperation... His poll numbers in NH/SC confirm this theory... The angle itself is ludacrious and completely non sensical to any who operate in reality... Those who don't operate in the businessworld apparently lap this ###### up... I honestly have no idea who you are talking about lapping something up. I really don't. Do you mean Newt? His PAC? Who? That being said, you are pretty much agreeing with IGW's whole point about how this campaign strategy didn't make a whole lot of sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 9, 2012 I honestly have no idea who you are talking about lapping something up. I really don't. Do you mean Newt? His PAC? Who? That being said, you are pretty much agreeing with IGW's whole point about how this campaign strategy didn't make a whole lot of sense. The people who are lapping it up don't understand venture capitalism, don't understand what Bain Capital does, doesn't understand how business decisions are made and what influences them... People who lap it up are people must jsut be people driven on emotion, light on logic... It makes sense only in the fact he is desperate and he non seeing much resonance from his standard message... Newt wants to be part of the 99%, lol... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 9, 2012 You don't follow instruction well. You were asked nicely to stop posting in this thread. Thanks. I follow instruction just fine. I ignore morons on message boards who think they can tell me what I can do. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted January 9, 2012 The people who are lapping it up don't understand venture capitalism, don't understand what Bain Capital does, doesn't understand how business decisions are made and what influences them... People who lap it up are people must jsut be people driven on emotion, light on logic... It makes sense only in the fact he is desperate and he non seeing much resonance from his standard message... Newt wants to be part of the 99%, lol... here's teh thing Dank - Mitt doesn't do anything differently than any venture capitalist: he makes companies run more efficiently and more profitably. The problem is that being a good venture capitalist rarely means being a "good" or "patriotic" citizen - his loyalty isn't to the citizens of the US or to the US government. He will do everything required to make money for shareholders, that includes off shoring jobs, slashing payroll/benefits/finding tax loopholes/etc. Companies used to be more civic minded - they needed the US to stay strong with its roads, infrastructure, and laws - the doesn't exist anymore with a global ecomony. Find me a Venture Capitalist who hasn't dodged taxes, offshored workers, consolidated companies and laid of many - and I'll show you a very Patriotic, albeit POOR venture capitalist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,145 Posted January 9, 2012 The reverend wright stuff was pretty negative as was the paying millions to hide everything about his past. Unfortunately the MSM has an agenda and was more then willing to cooperate in squashing those negative stories. Obama wasn't vetted like a conservative is was and will be. Too many ass clowns with blinders on drinking the cool aid. Never mind the whole him giving blow jobs story no one ever heard about but if looked into is very credible. Kool aid ....drink it libtards, lap it up like the puppies you are. What a whining pooooosay you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 727 Posted January 9, 2012 This was all just Mitt's attempt to get in the new Batman movie. Nothing more, nothing less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 9, 2012 here's teh thing Dank - Mitt doesn't do anything differently than any venture capitalist: he makes companies run more efficiently and more profitably. The problem is that being a good venture capitalist rarely means being a "good" or "patriotic" citizen - his loyalty isn't to the citizens of the US or to the US government. He will do everything required to make money for shareholders, that includes off shoring jobs, slashing payroll/benefits/finding tax loopholes/etc. Companies used to be more civic minded - they needed the US to stay strong with its roads, infrastructure, and laws - the doesn't exist anymore with a global ecomony. Find me a Venture Capitalist who hasn't dodged taxes, offshored workers, consolidated companies and laid of many - and I'll show you a very Patriotic, albeit POOR venture capitalist. That is a businessman in general... Who goes out looking to pay extra taxes? Who hasn't looked to operate more efficiently... A failed company lets go of all its employees, and a retooled, more efficient company protect the jobs of the workers they have through their competitiveness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 9, 2012 What a whining pooooosay you are. He was ? keep drinking the cool aid ..and when it warms up maybe you and your poooosay buddies can leave moms house for a few head back out to whine about successful people some more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 9, 2012 http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2012/01/mitt-romney-says-like-being-able-fire-people-new-hampshire-event/DSLNx9xGGR7KhEiyXEHVJI/index.html?p1=News_links Here is the Boston Globe (liberal shrill paper) "Romney says LOVES to fire people" He was making a point that compeitition is good and gets people better goods and services... This is the lib playbook... Obviously a nonstory like this is top of the fold banner headlines... That was my point, nice that the Globe made it for me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites