IGotWorms 4,060 Posted January 21, 2012 Memo to Republican Establishment: I would send this memo to each of you individually, but I'm not sure exactly who you are. I've been told that you exist and that people like my colleagues Bill Bennett, Karl Rove, and Bill Kristol are charter members of it. I am assuming you are out there and I assume there are more than three of you. At any rate, I thought I'd take a moment to catch up with you and make some observations on how things are going for your party. Let me break it to you gently -- you've got a first-class disaster on your hands. I know you boys thought this thing would work out and you would be able to whip the Republicans in line to fall in behind Mitt (I assume you are all males but if there is a female in the establishment, I apologize.) Not going too good, is it fellows? It's been a terrible time to be a Republican. There have been many moments during this process that have caused me great joy. Certainly the events of Thursday, ending with the CNN debate, and even the Fox debate Monday night, have helped ease the pain of my beloved Tigers' and Saints' recent defeats. I mean, most people thought it was kind of a watermark when your Tea Party gang booed the golden rule. You know, I've spent some time in Philly and they have always thought they were pretty radical because they actually booed Santa Claus and Willie Mays. Philly, I've got news for you -- you ain't got nothing on South Carolina Republicans. They just aren't buying any of that do-unto-others garbage. ... At any rate, let's talk a minute about Mitt. He was your guy -- he was methodical, meticulous, married once. He has completely blown himself up over an issue that everyone knew was coming. Have you had a chance to look at John McCain's research operation on Mitt? Wow. And let me assure you, that thing has been supplemented, expanded, and annotated. God only knows about the Obama people -- they've got a billion dollars! And how about my friends over at American Bridge (the Democrat-leaning political action committee)? Clearly Mitt is merely in the beginning of this tax-return, financial-disclosure, Cayman Island (and God only knows what else) fiasco. Your new front-runner is one of your old front runners, Newt Gingrich. I would like to take a moment to revel: I cannot personally tell you how pleased I am to see old Newt rise to the top after listening to all of your nauseating, sickening lectures on the evils of government and the importance of family values. http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/21/opinion/carville-republican-disaster/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 I don't usually care for Carville, but this piece was Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedStudent 56 Posted January 22, 2012 This guy is honest and tells it like it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 22, 2012 This guy is honest and tells it like it is. This guy would have a problem with anyone who isn't liberal. Content is just reinforcing the same dem angle of shooting the moon with Obama. Paint every character as unelectable. Elect Obama by default. I think well see once a general election comes that this strategy is going to face some serious heat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted January 22, 2012 This guy would have a problem with anyone who isn't liberal. Also I hate liberals!!!! It's been a terrible time to be a Republican. There have been many moments during this process that have caused me great joy. Certainly the events of Thursday, ending with the CNN debate, and even the Fox debate Monday night, have helped ease the pain of my beloved Tigers' and Saints' recent defeats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 22, 2012 This clown lost a debate to Will Ferrell. He's as sharp as a sock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,332 Posted January 22, 2012 Carville No kidding. IGotWorms needs to find people who actually know what they are talking about...like Adam Corolla. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 22, 2012 No kidding. IGotWorms needs to find people who actually know what they are talking about...like Adam Corolla. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted January 22, 2012 I wonder what Chuck Woollery thinks about this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 22, 2012 I wonder what Chuck Woollery thinks about this. When asked to rate it, Chuck gave it 4 :sleep: :sleep: out of 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,590 Posted January 22, 2012 Carville, this guy gets it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,565 Posted January 22, 2012 Carville, this guy gets it. Carville: "The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you’re smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That’s why I’m a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to http://itmakessenseblog.com/2011/09/17/democrat-james-carville-says-80-of-democrats-dont-have-a-clue-as-to-political-reality/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted January 22, 2012 Carville: http://itmakessenseblog.com/2011/09/17/democrat-james-carville-says-80-of-democrats-dont-have-a-clue-as-to-political-reality/ That is a very credible source you've linked to. I am sure it is 100% accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,565 Posted January 22, 2012 That is a very credible source you've linked to. I am sure it is 100% accurate. http://voices.yahoo.com/democrat-james-carville-says-80-democrats-dont-5311113.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,590 Posted January 22, 2012 Carville: http://itmakessenseblog.com/2011/09/17/democrat-james-carville-says-80-of-democrats-dont-have-a-clue-as-to-political-reality/ I know, right? That's why I became a Republican. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted January 22, 2012 http://voices.yahoo.com/democrat-james-carville-says-80-democrats-dont-5311113.html That is a blog. And their "source" is a quote website. I'm not saying he didn't say that, it would just be more believable to know where/when he said that. Just like I've seen "quotes" from people like Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin posted here that they never said but they are quoted all over the interwebs. If he said that it shouldn't be hard to find the source. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flashover 0 Posted January 22, 2012 This guy would have a problem with anyone who isn't liberal. Like his wife, Mary Matalin, a republican political consultant, assistant to George W. Bush and counselor to D!ck Cheney? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 22, 2012 Like his wife, Mary Matalin, a republican political consultant, assistant to George W. Bush and counselor to D!ck Cheney? I'm sure he meant every other Republican had a disaster on their hands except her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 22, 2012 Carville: http://itmakessenseblog.com/2011/09/17/democrat-james-carville-says-80-of-democrats-dont-have-a-clue-as-to-political-reality/ Did Carville just call Dems Lemmings? Mebbe he does get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted January 22, 2012 Yeah. He sure "nailed" it. This guy speaks like a grade school kid. Honestly, I have no problem with people who want to write well formulated opinions, etc. but I would be ashamed if this guy wrote this for my party. Yikes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 22, 2012 Did Carville just call Dems Lemmings? Mebbe he does get it. He gets that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 22, 2012 This guy speaks like a grade school kid. That's the genius that is Carville. If he spoke with intelligence he would go right over the heads of Demwit lemmings. Gotta get on their level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted January 22, 2012 That's the genius that is Carville. If he spoke with intelligence he would go right over the heads of Demwit lemmings. Gotta get on their level. Please don't help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 22, 2012 Please don't help. If I was trying to help, I would tell you to shoot your fatass, no-talent, big-mouthed coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted January 22, 2012 If I was trying to help, I would tell you to shoot your fatass, no-talent, big-mouthed coach. Said the Cowboys fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 22, 2012 Said the Cowboys fan. The Toe Sucker can't back up his regular season boasts............and he is no better at his post season predictions. Rex Ryan can no longer predict that his team will make the Super Bowl. So he may as well predict what’s going to happen to the teams that actually made the playoffs. “First off, the Ravens are going to win this game,” Ryan said Friday on WFAN when asked for his general thoughts on the AFC title game. “I think Terrell Suggs might be the difference in this game. . . . Let’s face it: I’m cheering for the Ravens.” Ryan has spoken endlessly about “owning” New York, but he now seems to be on the Big Blue bandwagon. Ryan also predicted the Giants would win. So, essentially the Patriots and 49ers should feel pretty good about themselves. Get back to me when Garret runs his mouth like the Toe Sucker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 183 Posted January 23, 2012 i like it that carville is the mouthpiece of the liberals and that crazy blonde chick is their poster girl. add in zero's ineptness and his band of criminals and union goons and you've got a party platform to be proud of...in moscow or venezuela. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted January 23, 2012 Carville is the left's Glenn Beck - both Zeros. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 23, 2012 http://m.cnn.com/primary/wk_article?articleId=urn:newsml:CNN.com:20120123:fleischer-democrats-gingrich:1&category=cnnd_latest#page2 What James Carville doesn't get about Republicans By Ari Fleischer, CNN Contributor (CNN) - Anytime James Carville, Paul Begala and David Axelrod hold hands and jump for joy, it's worth pondering how to turn their joy into tears. They're jubilant -- just ecstatic -- about Newt Gingrich's South Carolina victory. On the eve of the South Carolina primary, Carville opined in a CNN.com column addressed to GOP leaders, "Let me break it to you gently -- you've got a first-class disaster on your hands." Not to be outdone, Begala blustered in the Daily Beast, "Above it all we can hear the weeping, the wailing, the gnashing of teeth of the Republican establishment as Gingrich's victory sends them into full-blown panic." You know what? If Newt becomes the GOP nominee, they might be right. But they also might be wrong. Very wrong. I get a kick out of Democrats thinking they know how handicap a GOP race. If Democrats were good at thinking like Republicans, they would see the light and stop being Democrats. But instead, Democrats are so bent on seeing Republicans as a bunch of angry, right wing, intolerant, unreliable extremists that they have a track record of missing the mood of the country, especially the sentiment of people who don't wake up to The New York Times. Here's what Democratic National Committee Chair Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Florida, said just three months before the November 2010 elections: "Really it's hard to know where the Republican Party ends and the tea party begins. ... So it has really caused, I think, a pretty difficult problem for them going into the November elections because they have candidates ... on the extreme right-wing fringe who want to end Medicare as we know it, yank the rug --the safety net out from under our senior citizens. I mean, Americans really are going to have a very clear choice set up in November between moderate Democrats who are centrists, where the country is, and Republicans who are really off on the right-wing fringe." Three months later, the tea party led Republicans to their biggest mid-term election victory in 72 years, winning a remarkable 63 seats in the House,along with six in the Senate. And don't forget in 1980, Democrats were cheering for Ronald Reagan to win the GOP presidential nomination, thinking he was too conservative and too much of a cowboy to appeal to mainstream voters. Of course, Reagan went on to a 44-state, 10-point thumping of incumbent Jimmy Carter. Leading Democrats, and the most of the media, similarly dismissed the Contract With America and the possibility that voters could elect the first Republican House in 40 years when that took place in 1994, led by their favorite right wing, unsteady extremist, Newt Gingrich. Given President Barack Obama's significant problem winning the support of working class, blue collar Americans, I wouldn't be so jubilant if I were on the other side. Not only is America being led by a president who thinks blue collar Americans cling to their religion and guns, or that the Cambridge police were "stupid" when they did their job, but the economy is bad, unemployment is high and the debt is out of sight. This president, who was elected essentially having the experience of a state senator, is in over his head and is vulnerable to defeat both substantively and personally. As anyone who knows Newt knows, he indeed could blow himself up and the dancing Democrats may have reason for joy. But I wouldn't be too quick to discount Newt's ability to strike a chord with working class, upset with Washington, ready-for-change voters who will overlook Newt's personal problems because they're drawn to his blunt, direct, tough talk. I also wouldn't so easily discount the possibility that the anti-Obama sentiment and the desire for deep and meaningful change in Washington might propel Newt to a position none of us, myself included, could have imagined two days ago. Follow CNN Opinion on Twitter Join the conversation on Facebook Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,590 Posted January 23, 2012 Three months later, the tea party led Republicans to their biggest mid-term election victory in 72 years, winning a remarkable 63 seats in the House,along with six in the Senate. FWIW, the Tea Party arguably lost the GOP seats that it rightfully should have won in that election by insisting on fringe weirdos like Christine O'Donnell and Sharon Angle. You know, the kind of extremist freaks that only a guy who cheers on troops deaths and the attempted murder of Congressmen could support. The GOP easily might have won even bigger if they hadn't botched 2-3 seats by nominating unacceptable candidates to appease the Teabaggers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 23, 2012 Carville thought Kerry was a shoe in in 2004. "If we can't win this damn election," he said, "with a Democratic Party more unified than ever before, with us having raised as much money as the Republicans, with 55% of the country believing we're heading in the wrong direction, with our candidate having won all three debates, and with our side being more passionate about the outcome than theirs -- if we can't win this one, then we can't win ######! And we need to completely rethink the Democratic Party." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 23, 2012 Carville had a few predictions on the 2008 race as well. Didn't quite "nail it". But with the 2008 presidential election already on the front burner, the crowd came to hear what Matalin and Carville would say about the contest that will dominate the headlines for the next year and a half. Carville, 64, a humorist himself, offered a few predictions, including: Al Gore, former vice president and the Democratic presidential nominee in 2000, will get in the race. He explained it this way: "Running for president is like having sex. You didn't do it once and forget about it." A major third-party candidate will emerge; there could be a major fourth-party candidate. The Republican nominee will be someone other than Giuliani or John McCain. And he said there's a chance the Republicans could go to their convention without a nominee, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted January 23, 2012 All jokes aside, the repubs can't seriously be excited about the candidates they've drummed up for 2012? Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney? All of the tax stuff aside (every body knows most rich people are crooks), you think the bible belt will get behind a non-protestant? Sure, they'd probably vote for him over Obama, but most of them won't even bother voting. And do you non-religious conservatives really want to see a Mormon president? Protestants are wacko enough, but at least they're not at cult status. These Mormon idiots wear magic underwear, for Christ's sake (no pun). MAGIC FOCKING UNDERWEAR@!#@!#@#! Then you got Newt? Come on guys... Newt basketball head Gingrich! LOL. The same Newt who supported a bill that MANDATED all people buy health insurance (sound familiar)? The same Newt who tried to get Clinton impeached, while he himself was banging some other broad (who is now his 3RD WIFE)! Solid conservative values there! Just give up now. Neither of them have a SHOT IN HELL in 2012. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 23, 2012 Carville on the 2010 mid-terms: "Republicans have no hope of making serious inroads into democratic advantages in 2010 or likely 2012 or 2014 and so on. It's time to call T.O.D., time of death, on the GOP." This guys is giving Nostradamus a run for his money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 23, 2012 All jokes aside, the repubs can't seriously be excited about the candidates they've drummed up for 2012? Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney? All of the tax stuff aside (every body knows most rich people are crooks), you think the bible belt will get behind a non-protestant? Sure, they'd probably vote for him over Obama, but most of them won't even bother voting. And do you non-religious conservatives really want to see a Mormon president? Protestants are wacko enough, but these idiots wear magic underwear for Christ's sake (no pun). MAGIC FOCKING UNDERWEAR@!#@!#@#! Then you got Newt? Comes on guys... Newt focking Gingrich! LOL. The same Newt who supported a bill that MANDATED all people buy health insurance (sound familiar)? The same Newt who tried to get Clinton impeached, while he himself was banging some other broad (who is now his 3RD WIFE)! Solid conservative values there! Just give up now. Neither of them have a SHOT IN HELL in 2012. Worst troll ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted January 23, 2012 I read the quoted portion of the article. Without attacking Carville personally, I'm trying to take what he said on face value, but I'm not following what he's trying to say exactly. Is he saying that because there is no clear front runner winner of the GOP nomination yet, because three different people have won three different states, that somehow means the GOP is in 'trouble'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted January 23, 2012 Worst troll ever. Have fun with 4 more years of Obama, you focking donkey. On the bright side, that gives you 4 more years to make the 2 or 3 people who don't hate you on the forum, realize why everyone else here hates you. Seriously, you spend hour upon hour on a forum where pretty much EVERY SINGLE PERSON can't stand you. Even people with the same political leanings can't stand you, because you're such a gigantic f'ing twat. You're pretty much GFIAFP without the funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites