***Official Seattle Seahawks Thread 2012***

[FlaHawker 24]

The Seattle Seahawks are dead last in the league, by a wide margin, in pass attempts per game at 25.0

 

The Seattle Seahawks are #22 in the league in completion percentage of passes.

 

The Seattle Seahawks are #22 in the league in pass yardage gained per pass.

 

Conclusion: Seattle never throws, but when they do, it's a short pass, that doesn't get completed.

 

Look, we all agree that WRs are lacking on this team. T.O. would have helped, in my opinion. But let's not forget Sidney Rice. He's an elite WR, or at least making elite money. Doug Baldwin led this team last year, right? Braylon Edwards is a veteran. Golden Tate is a 3 year WR, remember that old theory, that has been given a simplified playbook because he just couldn't figure things out. There are a couple of WRs on this team. There are supposed to be Tight Ends that can catch on this team too. And if you keep throwing short passes, don't tell me you need the TE to block on every play. I don't know, maybe cutting Kellen Winslow was a bad move because Evan Moore has done nothing too.

 

It's not like other young QBs have a talented cast around them either. We brought up Daulton. He has AJ Green and, well, Luck has Wayne, Griffin has nobody, Weeden has nobody, Tannehill has nobody, Ponder has Harvin, Gabbert has Blackmon, Newton has old Steve Smith...maybe I've overlooking some stuff, but none of these guys has more than one great WR around them. They make those players better, not depend on those guys to make themselves look better.

 

I'm the bad guy. I get it. I'm Mr Grumpypants. Maybe I'm loopy from this medicine I'm taking for the still lingering flu and upper respiratory infection. I told you guys that the Seahawks won't win a Superbowl until I die, so start a vigil now. I wish I saw more from Wilson. It seems like every other play he drops back, he rolls out of the pocket and throws the ball away to the sidelines. It's discouraging. If he strings a couple of decent games together, I'll shut up. I promise.

No you arent a bad guy. You just are beating a dead horse. My point in bringing up other QBs wasn't so much to compare to see who was better but just to show that these guys are in offenses that are allowing them to run and chuck (and that just because they are allowed to do more than Wilson and it appears that they have better stats, that the teams are not better off for that).

 

You guys can kill Wilson until the cows come home. He is the QB because he out worked Matt Flynn. PC is going to war with him and it is PC who has decided to limit what he can and cannot do. Because of the type of game PC wants to play, Wilson and the offense have the tiniest of margins for error. Thus, when Braylon Edwards drops two passes in the end zone against Zona, the Hawks lose; when Anthony McCoy falls down on a potential game winning TD drive, the Hawks lose; when Turbin drops a potential TD pass, when Evan Moore and Golden Tate drop 3rd down passes, potential scoring drives disappear and the Hawks lose. For all of the issues we have seen so far, the Hawks have lost three games by a total of 17 points. Pete Carroll a'int changing QBs any time soon so you might as well just buckle up and enjoy the ride; this team will play nail biters every week because that is what PC wants. Oh and the offense has 10 other guys. Outside of maybe Okung and Unger, the Hawks O-Line is below average at pass pro, and the WRs, as we have discussed, are terrible. You can't blame Wilson for all their shortcomings (no pun intended!).

[FlaHawker 24]

by the end of the season or we start Flynn for the last quarter of the season and see what we have there.

 

 

You're not paying attention.

[seadog54 20]

This whole Wilson beat out Flynn reasoning is total utter BS. It was freaking PRESEASON. Let's see what Flynn can do in regular season games before we can confidently declare that Wilson is better than Flynn.

 

All I have to say is that Wilson has shown no more talent than what Seneca Wallace or Tavaris Jackson can do.

[FlaHawker 24]

This whole Wilson beat out Flynn reasoning is total utter BS. It was freaking PRESEASON. Let's see what Flynn can do in regular season games before we can confidently declare that Wilson is better than Flynn.

 

All I have to say is that Wilson has shown no more talent than what Seneca Wallace or Tavaris Jackson can do.

You're not paying attention.

[seadog54 20]

You're not paying attention.

 

i've been to every home game so far and watched every snap. All these excuses of PC holding him back is bs. There were so many bad throws and bad decisions that Wilson made, I don't know why PC should be held accountable for the mistakes that is made on the field. When the QB completes just 1 pass in an entire second half, let's blame the play calling.

 

bottom line is I think Wilson sucks. My opinion not yours. thank you.

[Hawkfin 32]

This whole Wilson beat out Flynn reasoning is total utter BS. It was freaking PRESEASON. Let's see what Flynn can do in regular season games before we can confidently declare that Wilson is better than Flynn.

 

All I have to say is that Wilson has shown no more talent than what Seneca Wallace or Tavaris Jackson can do.

Flynn couldn't get it done in preseason, what makes you think he will in the regular season. YES Wilson did beat him out there!

By far! And I'm sure it showed in camp also. They see more then you or I do.

 

If stats are thrown out on Wilson of how bad he is now - Then stats will show how he easily beat out Flynn in the preseason.

 

I agree with FlaHawker 100% on his post above and others on the Wilson debate. Other QB's are being asked for more and stats might look better.

But, Wilson is guiding us to a winning record. It can't be JUST the defense. There's more to it. In fact, our Def has not even scored yet, and most turnovers are at our own goal line after they gave up a long drive.

 

Fantasy Noob - I won't even go there. I think that entire post was completely the opposite. I think Wilson is very accurate and his deep ball is great. He has some ducks sometimes, but overall it's always on point and never over thrown, under thrown, or out of bounds.

Give me AJ Green, and those are all catches. Dalton is the biggest duck thrower out there.

 

He's a rookie for crying out loud. You think P. Manning's grow on trees? Wilson has shown flashes of pure brilliance. And of course rookie mistakes. But, a TON of dropped balls and wides not getting open.

 

B. Edwards didn't see S.F. starters. He's been done.

G. Tate has NEVER done anything. Wilson making him look better

S. Rice - Over rated - And while good, has always disappeard. Never a true stud. He had 1 good year. That's it! Always hurt

Baldwin - He's been hurt all year - But, he's also regressing as far as I can tell. Not due to Wilson. He played over his head in my view. He was undrafted for a reason probably. Maybe he'll get back when healthy. But, he's been hurt.

Miller - I'm not sure here? Probably was never that good. He didn't do anything last year.

 

I'll take D. Bess and that White dude over any two of ours. Put it that way.

[Hawkfin 32]

i've been to every home game so far and watched every snap. All these excuses of PC holding him back is bs. There were so many bad throws and bad decisions that Wilson made, I don't know why PC should be held accountable for the mistakes that is made on the field. When the QB completes just 1 pass in an entire second half, let's blame the play calling.

 

bottom line is I think Wilson sucks. My opinion not yours. thank you.

 

Maybe your too drunk at the games to pay attention?

 

I think we are ALL watching the games. Your not special there. We all have different views and thats cool.

 

But ours are right. PC agrees, and he's built this team from complete garbage mess in just over 2 years.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Watching the Monday night game, I think we match up pretty god-damn well with the Lions. Other then Suh, they don't have anybody on their defense that can focking tackle.

 

Their o-line, especially Rob Simms suck. Mebane and Jones should have all kinds of fun. Clemons and Irvin should be able to abuse 45 year old Backus and the other @sshole tackle.

 

Megatron is due, so I expect him to have a good game, but Stafford should be ripe for at least two INT's. The dude has regressed badly this year.

 

After losing a hard fought fist-fight down in the bay the Hawks should be able cruise up into Michigan and give the good people of Detroit something else to be depressed over. Our defense will do their part, just as they have all year. If Seattle loses, Bevell, Carroll and Wilson are going to have a whole mess of questions to answer.

 

They HAVE to win this game!! I don't care who's behind center.

[phillybear 366]

Flynn couldn't get it done in preseason, what makes you think he will in the regular season. YES Wilson did beat him out there!

By far! And I'm sure it showed in camp also. They see more then you or I do.

 

If stats are thrown out on Wilson of how bad he is now - Then stats will show how he easily beat out Flynn in the preseason.

 

Very, very, very strongly disagree. Flynn had an excellent preseason and training camp. You could argue that Wilson played as well as Flynn, but did not outplay him in games or in camp. Flynn had a lot of passes dropped on him in games, but also had games where he completed 90% of his pass attempts. The sole reason we were given at the time for Wilson winning the starting job was his better mobility than Flynn's. In camp, it was widely reported that Wilson was throwing a lot of picks. Flynn was much sharper in drills and held the #1 spot in camp due to achievement. Wilson winning the job was a shock at the time and continues to be a mystery for all intents and purposes. I'm not saying Flynn would have been better. But we can't spin it to smear the guy either. Flynn played great.

[phillybear 366]

They HAVE to win this game!! I don't care who's behind center.

 

Dallas was a must win. Green Bay was a must win. Carolina was a must win. How many must wins can we bear in just the first half of a season. This is getting insane. My ulcer has hemorrhoids.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Flynn did look pretty sharp in the preseason. Not a lot of flash, but that beautiful dropped rainbow to TO would have looked pretty nice in his overall stats.

 

Also, while not nearly the athlete Wilson is, he's still pretty quick to get away from the pass rush. He moved around well in every bit of tape I've seen.

 

Again, I'm tired of the QB debate. The offense flat out needs to play better no matter who's taking snaps. I'm no fan of Bevell. I think we can confidently let Tate walk at the end of the season too. What the hell happened to McCoy? Is he hurt. It looked like him and Wilson were developing a little chemistry weeks ago. Moore has done absolutely nothing. Where was all the run after catch ability Miller showed in Oakland? If Obomanu wasn't a special teams standout he wouldn't be on the team. Braylon Edwards still flashes some first round talent once in a while. Baldwin is healthy, but still just a crafty slot guy. Rice will never be the guy he looked to be in Minnesota a few years ago (though he's still pretty good).

 

Kopy and I have been screaming for a studly young WR up in here for a while. Torrey Smith could have been ours!!! Why did the team let TO go? Sure he brings a circus type atmosphere, though it seems Carroll kind of digs that sort of thing. He also fits the hard-work mantra.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Dallas was a must win. Green Bay was a must win. Carolina was a must win. How many must wins can we bear in just the first half of a season. This is getting insane. My ulcer has hemorrhoids.

 

The division is basically San Francisco's. Best we can hope for is 3-3 (and there's a good chance at that with the remaining 3 games in Seattle). To me that means we can afford 2 more losses if we want to surely lock up a Wild Card slot. 10-6 might not do it, and not to get all f@ggot hocus-pocusy, but we have some bad karma there from 2010 anyways.

 

So from here on out, every game is a must win. No more excuses about a rookie QB, or playing on the road or whatever. We blew our tough loss load in Arizona and St. Louis.

 

Playing in Chicago and Miami worry me. The Niners are far from a gimme gain too, even in Seattle.

 

It's actually pretty fun. The valleys will bitterly low but the peaks Sooooo sugary sweet!!!

[Groundhog 24]

This week's game is a litmus test for me to see where we stand. Detroit is a decent team, and if we can't beat a decent team on the road, we're not going to sneak into the playoffs. Especially with the NFC as strong as it is this year. So far we are 3-0 at home and 1-3 on the road, only beating Carolina.

 

The 2nd half is going to be easier. Five home games, including all three division games. Plus a bye in week 11. But if we somehow go 8-0 at home and regress to 1-7 on the road, a final record of 9-7 won't be good enough.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

This week's game is a litmus test for me to see where we stand. Detroit is a decent team, and if we can't beat a decent team on the road, we're not going to sneak into the playoffs. Especially with the NFC as strong as it is this year. So far we are 3-0 at home and 1-3 on the road, only beating Carolina.

 

The 2nd half is going to be easier. Five home games, including all three division games. Plus a bye in week 11. But if we somehow go 8-0 at home and regress to 1-7 on the road, a final record of 9-7 won't be good enough.

 

10-6 might not be good enough. The team needs to aim for 11-5.

[FlaHawker 24]

i've been to every home game so far and watched every snap. All these excuses of PC holding him back is bs. There were so many bad throws and bad decisions that Wilson made, I don't know why PC should be held accountable for the mistakes that is made on the field. When the QB completes just 1 pass in an entire second half, let's blame the play calling.

 

bottom line is I think Wilson sucks. My opinion not yours. thank you.

You're not paying attention. This is not about whether Wilson can play or not. Pete Carroll is playing him REGARDLESS. If you think anything else you are not paying attention. Get over it.

[FlaHawker 24]

This week's game is a litmus test for me to see where we stand. Detroit is a decent team, and if we can't beat a decent team on the road, we're not going to sneak into the playoffs. Especially with the NFC as strong as it is this year. So far we are 3-0 at home and 1-3 on the road, only beating Carolina.

 

The 2nd half is going to be easier. Five home games, including all three division games. Plus a bye in week 11. But if we somehow go 8-0 at home and regress to 1-7 on the road, a final record of 9-7 won't be good enough.

I don't think DET will be able to run. But Calvin and Stafford are way overdo. I expect another nail biter. 17-13 Detroit.

[Groundhog 24]

Here's a thought: is PC starting Wilson because (a) Wilson and Flynn more or less played to a dead heat in preseason, but ( Wilson gets the nod because he has better mobility and PC is concerned about the O-Line?

 

You could argue that the only reason we were able to keep things close in the Arizona game was because Wilson was keeping plays alive with his feet. The fact that Edwards dropped the 4th down throw in the end zone doesn't negate how we got there.

 

I don't feel like the line is as solid as one normally thinks of playoff-caliber teams.

[FlaHawker 24]

 

I don't feel like the line is as solid as one normally thinks of playoff-caliber teams.

You are correct. We have a below average pass blocking O line.

[Kopy 559]

Dallas was a must win. Green Bay was a must win. Carolina was a must win. How many must wins can we bear in just the first half of a season. This is getting insane. My ulcer has hemorrhoids.

 

I think it's the other way around.

It's gonna be a must win for Detroit.

If they lose, their season will be over, and the Swartz finger pointing will start to get real loud.

Their at home, and need to win, even if it's just to be able to breath for another week.

 

I wanna see Seattle step on their throat and finish'em in a big game on the road.

 

It's not a must win for us. But it'll be a telling game to see if we got what it takes to take someone out and are tough enough to go for a playoff run this season.

[Hawkfin 32]

Very, very, very strongly disagree. Flynn had an excellent preseason and training camp. You could argue that Wilson played as well as Flynn, but did not outplay him in games or in camp. Flynn had a lot of passes dropped on him in games, but also had games where he completed 90% of his pass attempts. The sole reason we were given at the time for Wilson winning the starting job was his better mobility than Flynn's. In camp, it was widely reported that Wilson was throwing a lot of picks. Flynn was much sharper in drills and held the #1 spot in camp due to achievement. Wilson winning the job was a shock at the time and continues to be a mystery for all intents and purposes. I'm not saying Flynn would have been better. But we can't spin it to smear the guy either. Flynn played great.

 

You can disagree, but your wrong. I'll break the numbers down for you. Man, I'm not sure we are watching the same games?

This is why Wilson completely BLEW Flynn away all preseason by far.

 

Preseason Game 1 (Week 2)

Flynn: 11-13 71 yards, 2 sacks, 1 Int. 0 TD's - 57.4 rating

This was for an entire first half. Offense scored 3 points. The defense scored 7 on Int.

 

Wilson: 12-16 124 yards, 1 Int. 2 TD's - 91.7 rating

Plus 3 rushes for 59 yards. This was huge.

Wilson lead 2 TD drives and FG. Won the game. 2nd half stats I know, but he was clearly better

 

 

Preseason Game 2 (Week 3)

Flynn: 6-13 31 yards, 1 sack, 0 Int. 0 TD's - 53.0 rating

Flynn again had no TD's in first half of football. He had 9 points by FG's, but some of those were setup by Def.

 

Wilson: 10-17 155 yards, 1 sack, 0 Int., 2 TD's - 128.3 rating

Also 5 rushes for 33 yards. Again lead scoring drives and won the game. He was clearly better by the numbers once again.

 

 

Preseason Game 3 (Week 4) - Wilson earned the right to start - Flynn didn't play. Wilson TOOK the job Easily with this.

 

Wilson:

Put together about 8 straight scoring drives. Seahawks scored an amazing 44 points. (Some by Def & ST)

13-19 185 yards, 2 TD's, 0 Int., 2 sacks - Another 100+ rating

2 rushes for 58 big yards

This one was against first team, and he looked great all game. They could not stop him.

 

 

So to me it was NOT close. (I was a huge Flynn supporter also. Wilson flat out beat him)

Wilson 6 Td's vs Flynn 0 TD's

Wilson 80-100 QB Rating vs Flynn 50's

 

Also, I heard Wilson was great in camp and because of that he entered the 3 man race for QB. And he worked hard with his study.

[phillybear 366]

You can disagree, but your wrong. I'll break the numbers down for you. Man, I'm not sure we are watching the same games?

This is why Wilson completely BLEW Flynn away all preseason by far.

 

Preseason Game 1 (Week 2)

Flynn: 11-13 71 yards, 2 sacks, 1 Int. 0 TD's - 57.4 rating

This was for an entire first half. Offense scored 3 points. The defense scored 7 on Int.

 

Wilson: 12-16 124 yards, 1 Int. 2 TD's - 91.7 rating

Plus 3 rushes for 59 yards. This was huge.

Wilson lead 2 TD drives and FG. Won the game. 2nd half stats I know, but he was clearly better

 

 

Preseason Game 2 (Week 3)

Flynn: 6-13 31 yards, 1 sack, 0 Int. 0 TD's - 53.0 rating

Flynn again had no TD's in first half of football. He had 9 points by FG's, but some of those were setup by Def.

 

Wilson: 10-17 155 yards, 1 sack, 0 Int., 2 TD's - 128.3 rating

Also 5 rushes for 33 yards. Again lead scoring drives and won the game. He was clearly better by the numbers once again.

 

 

Preseason Game 3 (Week 4) - Wilson earned the right to start - Flynn didn't play. Wilson TOOK the job Easily with this.

 

Wilson:

Put together about 8 straight scoring drives. Seahawks scored an amazing 44 points. (Some by Def & ST)

13-19 185 yards, 2 TD's, 0 Int., 2 sacks - Another 100+ rating

2 rushes for 58 big yards

This one was against first team, and he looked great all game. They could not stop him.

 

 

So to me it was NOT close. (I was a huge Flynn supporter also. Wilson flat out beat him)

Wilson 6 Td's vs Flynn 0 TD's

Wilson 80-100 QB Rating vs Flynn 50's

 

Also, I heard Wilson was great in camp and because of that he entered the 3 man race for QB. And he worked hard with his study.

 

Malarkey.

 

Flynn was 11 for 13 in the first game, with one dead duck drop by a WR killing a drive, so he should have been 12 for 13. No matter how you slice it, that is impressive. Flynn was decisive, threw the ball before WRs came out of breaks, and was everything we wanted in a QB: killer accuracy. Wilson threw a jump ball up to Braylon Edwards that should have been picked off, but Edwards pushed off to create separation and came up with a fluky TD. Flynn beat up on first stringers.

 

Game Two. The WRs dropped everything in sight. The T.O. bomb dropped pass was replayed on Sportscenter for weeks. Flynn kept avoiding throwing to his checkdowns which were wide open because the coaching staff ordered him to go deep early and often to offset his perceived short tossing the week before. Flynn made accurate throws, but T.O. dropped a TD, Tate dropped a TD, and Tate failed to keep his feet inbounds on another TD toss. T.O. caught one of the 5 passes Flynn threw to him, but to be fair, T.O. was still learning the playbook and Flynn hadn't had time to develop a rhythm with him. Wilson beat up on second stringers.

 

Game Three. Wilson played against a very hurt and depleted through injury KC defense. We all knew this headed into that game. Wilson looked good, of course. The eyeball test told me Flynn played better than Wilson in the overall preseason, but I can see how people could think Wilson may have come out a tiny bit ahead in the competition. You have to look at the context and who they were playing against. Wilson was told to go out there and wing it. Flynn had specific orders, followed them, and got penalized for it.

 

Wilson never faced any credible defenses. The QB raced was rigged from the start. It's like Carroll was trying to teach Flynn some kind of lesson at the expense of what might have been best for the team. The whole situation stinks. I get it, we won't see Flynn short of injury, which stinks. Because Carroll preaches competition, but Flynn didn't seem to get an even shot.

 

Again, if Wilson is some kind of genius in studying, working hard, saying his prayers, and eating his vitamins, why does he suck so much, hasn't shown improvement, and why isn't the playbook more open? It's all bullsh!t to justify a questionable decision to start Wilson at the start of the season. That's just the way I see it.

[Fantasy Noob 10]

Being 0-3 in the division means we will have to make it in based on our record, I think we need 2 of the next 3 games. We really need this win against a tottering Lions team, that Minnesota game could be sneaky tough on us. The bye and end third of the season all shape in our favor but we need to get hot sooner rather than later and string some wins together.

[Hawkfin 32]

Malarkey.

 

Flynn was 11 for 13 in the first game, with one dead duck drop by a WR killing a drive, so he should have been 12 for 13. No matter how you slice it, that is impressive. Flynn was decisive, threw the ball before WRs came out of breaks, and was everything we wanted in a QB: killer accuracy. Wilson threw a jump ball up to Braylon Edwards that should have been picked off, but Edwards pushed off to create separation and came up with a fluky TD. Flynn beat up on first stringers.

 

Game Two. The WRs dropped everything in sight. The T.O. bomb dropped pass was replayed on Sportscenter for weeks. Flynn kept avoiding throwing to his checkdowns which were wide open because the coaching staff ordered him to go deep early and often to offset his perceived short tossing the week before. Flynn made accurate throws, but T.O. dropped a TD, Tate dropped a TD, and Tate failed to keep his feet inbounds on another TD toss. T.O. caught one of the 5 passes Flynn threw to him, but to be fair, T.O. was still learning the playbook and Flynn hadn't had time to develop a rhythm with him. Wilson beat up on second stringers.

 

Game Three. Wilson played against a very hurt and depleted through injury KC defense. We all knew this headed into that game. Wilson looked good, of course. The eyeball test told me Flynn played better than Wilson in the overall preseason, but I can see how people could think Wilson may have come out a tiny bit ahead in the competition. You have to look at the context and who they were playing against. Wilson was told to go out there and wing it. Flynn had specific orders, followed them, and got penalized for it.

 

Wilson never faced any credible defenses. The QB raced was rigged from the start. It's like Carroll was trying to teach Flynn some kind of lesson at the expense of what might have been best for the team. The whole situation stinks. I get it, we won't see Flynn short of injury, which stinks. Because Carroll preaches competition, but Flynn didn't seem to get an even shot.

 

Again, if Wilson is some kind of genius in studying, working hard, saying his prayers, and eating his vitamins, why does he suck so much, hasn't shown improvement, and why isn't the playbook more open? It's all bullsh!t to justify a questionable decision to start Wilson at the start of the season. That's just the way I see it.

 

I don't remember all these great deep passes you say Flynn threw. He did one to Owens, bad drop.

The one to Tate was way over his head high, and far out of bounds. And that was only like a 20 yard pass.

 

Regardless, your entire post was talking about "dropped passes" - The same thing is happening to Wilson NOW, yet you put most of the blame on him. There has been way more dropped balls this year, then the few drops Flynn had. Wilson has had at least 6-8 drops and some of those have lost us a game or two. Don't blame drops on Flynn, and then not give credit to Wilson for the drops he's had to go through.

Wilson's stats would look much more impressive this year if not for so many also.

 

Flynn, was captain check down. Especially game 1 that you seem to love so much. Those yards were puke. Game 2 he only threw 30. Puke. NO TD's - Bottom line. Then hurt. Or at least that's what was said.

 

I guess we'll disagree. All good

 

I think the right decision has been made. Flynn did not do enough to win it.

[phillybear 366]

I don't remember all these great deep passes you say Flynn threw. He did one to Owens, bad drop.

The one to Tate was way over his head high, and far out of bounds. And that was only like a 20 yard pass.

 

Regardless, your entire post was talking about "dropped passes" - The same thing is happening to Wilson NOW, yet you put most of the blame on him. There has been way more dropped balls this year, then the few drops Flynn had. Wilson has had at least 6-8 drops and some of those have lost us a game or two. Don't blame drops on Flynn, and then not give credit to Wilson for the drops he's had to go through.

Wilson's stats would look much more impressive this year if not for so many also.

 

Flynn, was captain check down. Especially game 1 that you seem to love so much. Those yards were puke. Game 2 he only threw 30. Puke. NO TD's - Bottom line. Then hurt. Or at least that's what was said.

 

I guess we'll disagree. All good

 

I think the right decision has been made. Flynn did not do enough to win it.

 

No worries. As Seahawk fans, we can certainly have robust disagreements, and save our venom for the Sweetness34's of the world.

 

Drops are drops. Still, it bothers me when for example the Arizona game. I hear chatter about how Edwards missed two catches in the end zone and Baldwin dropped one as well on the potential game winning drive. I will give credit to Wilson for completing a couple of passed to move the team downfield and also the refs for a couple of flags to help out. But once in the redzone, Wilson never threw a catchable ball the rest of the game. He threw terrible fade routes to the corners. Baldwin got his hands outstretched and lost teeth trying to control it. Hell, the last pass zipped by Edwards by the time he turned his head. During that game, Rice made at least 4 acrobatic catches. I'm seeing as many circus catches from our WRs as drops. I don't think Flynn lost the job, but he didn't win it either. I don't even know what my point is anymore. Words, words, words. Eh, I think I'll ease up on the medicine and get back to alcohol. My first vacation week in 7 years, and I've been battling the flu and might have whooping cough. Blech.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Brutal loss, but you can't put it on Wilson. The defense is the heart of the team. I suppose Stafford was due.

 

Sherman did an excellent job on Megatron, which killed me fantasy-wise. Nice nut-kick game for Joey Gladstone.

[phillybear 366]

No doubt, the loss to Detroit was the defense's fault. Carroll had some questionable time issue decisions, not calling time outs in the end, but the defense got their pants pulled down. Wilson played OK. Lynch was good. Rice was good. Miller finally got a TD. Defense stunk.

 

Wave goodbye to the playoffs. It's not happening. We have a talented roster with a playoff caliber team that is not going to make the playoffs. Start pointing fingers, as there are plenty of targets to go around right now. A playoff team would not have blown a double digit lead and would have stepped on a wounded team's throat.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

No doubt, the loss to Detroit was the defense's fault. Carroll had some questionable time issue decisions, not calling time outs in the end, but the defense got their pants pulled down. Wilson played OK. Lynch was good. Rice was good. Miller finally got a TD. Defense stunk.

 

Wave goodbye to the playoffs. It's not happening. We have a talented roster with a playoff caliber team that is not going to make the playoffs. Start pointing fingers, as there are plenty of targets to go around right now. A playoff team would not have blown a double digit lead and would have stepped on a wounded team's throat.

 

I'm stinging from it too, but I'm not willing to write this season off yet. We play Frisco and the rest of our division in Seattle. Two scariest remaining games are in Chicago and Miami.

 

We can lose one more game and still be in control of a Wild Card spot. Two more losses and we'll need a little help getting in at 10-6.

 

There is still hope.

[phillybear 366]

I'm stinging from it too, but I'm not willing to write this season off yet. We play Frisco and the rest of our division in Seattle. Two scariest remaining games are in Chicago and Miami.

 

We can lose one more game and still be in control of a Wild Card spot. Two more losses and we'll need a little help getting in at 10-6.

 

There is still hope.

 

The Seahawks offense is not good enough to score enough points to blow anybody out. The defense can't get off the field. What was Detroit on 3rd down conversions today, 12 for 16? That's beyond ridiculous. It's impossible. Every game is close. How many close games can your realistically hope will break in your favor. The odds are very much against it, as in the long term, those results return to the mean. Eight games, only one blowout, Dallas. Seven close games. 3 wins, 4 losses. How many close games can be expected to be won the rest of the way. I'd say 50%. 8-8 or 9-7, and a lot of gnashing of teeth.

[Kopy 559]

Sometimes I'm not even sure why we play the games.

Just put us at 8-8. 8 wins at home and 8 on the road and call it a year.

 

This isn't even a east coast, west coast rant like alot of teams have.

It goes back to the Holmgren days. We win at home and lose on the road.

Why can't we win on the road!!!

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Sometimes I'm not even sure why we play the games.

Just put us at 8-8. 8 wins at home and 8 on the road and call it a year.

 

This isn't even a east coast, west coast rant like alot of teams have.

It goes back to the Holmgren days. We win at home and lose on the road.

Why can't we win on the road!!!

 

 

That and blowing it on 3rd downs have been happening as long as I can remember, dating back to the Erickson days. Probably before that too, I'm a little too young to remember.

[FlaHawker 24]

We are what we are: a .500 team. Maybe the defense isn't as good as we thought.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Legion of Boom.

 

D!ck Sherman just can't help but open his yap. Great teammate!

[FlaHawker 24]

Legion of Boom.

 

D!ck Sherman just can't help but open his yap. Great teammate!

Fock you.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Legion of Boom.

 

D!ck Sherman just can't help but open his yap. Great teammate!

 

What were Megatron's stats?

 

Still bitter. Dude it was like week 3! Get over it!

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

What were Megatron's stats?

 

Still bitter. Dude it was like week 3! Get over it!

 

Sherm did his job, and let everyone know about it. Too bad football is a team sport....Sherm would be super good in a 1 on 1 football league.

 

Your weak week 3 attempt is for someone else, not me. I admitted the Packers didn't deserve to win.

 

D!ck Sherman is a good representative of your team and it's fans. Good for you and good luck.

[FlaHawker 24]

Sherm did his job, and let everyone know about it. Too bad football is a team sport....Sherm would be super good in a 1 on 1 football league.

 

Your weak week 3 attempt is for someone else, not me. I admitted the Packers didn't deserve to win.

 

D!ck Sherman is a good representative of your team and it's fans. Good for you and good luck.

Fock you.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

 

 

D!ck Sherman is a good representative of your team and it's fans. Good for you and good luck.

 

A Stanford graduate and one of the best young defenders in the game. Thanks man

[donhaas 18]

Sherm did his job, and let everyone know about it. Too bad football is a team sport....Sherm would be super good in a 1 on 1 football league.

 

Your weak week 3 attempt is for someone else, not me. I admitted the Packers didn't deserve to win.

 

D!ck Sherman is a good representative of your team and it's fans. Good for you and good luck.

 

 

I didn't see the game.... did he follow SwampDog off the field and scream "HEY, BRO! U MAD???" at him? :lol:

[FlaHawker 24]

I didn't see the game.... did he follow SwampDog off the field and scream "HEY, BRO! U MAD???" at him? :lol:

Wow, funny. Don't quit your union job.

[donhaas 18]

Wow, funny. Don't quit your union job.

 

Don't get bitter, sir....

 

 

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