New study: women initiate 2/3rds of divorces

[IGotWorms 4,060]

I found this surprising:

 

Women initiate two-thirds of divorces and far more of the separations, according to a nationally representative study by the American Association of Retired People (AARP). This study is based on surveys of more than a thousand divorced men and women, aged 40 to 79.

 

The most common reason the women gave for divorce was verbal, emotional and physical neglect. Many of their husbands had no idea what hit them.

 

"Men more often than women were caught off-guard by their divorce," reports the AARP study. More than a quarter of the men compared to just 14 percent of the women say "they never saw it coming."

 

...

 

Women who filed for divorce usually felt confident that they could keep their children.

 

"The question of custody swamps other variables," find professors Margaret Biring and Douglas Willen in their article, "These Boots are Made for Walking: Why Most Divorce Filers are Women."

 

"Our study found that children are the most important asset in a marriage and the partner who expects to get custody is by far the one most likely to file for divorce."

 

Divorced women are far more likely than divorced men to say they are happier than when they were married, find several studies, even though the women face more financial problems, lower chances of remarriage, more anxiety and depression, more stress and less sex.

 

Still, more women (76 percent) than men (64 percent) are confident that divorce was the right decision. If the men remain unmarried, only 57 percent are confident that divorce was a good thing to do.

 

http://www.adn.com/2012/06/24/2518581/most-of-the-time-wife-initiates.html

 

Thoughts?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Apparently, they polled Newbie's ex.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Apparently, they polled Newbie's ex.

 

I posted this study party for you RP. I wanted you to know that you are not alone. Apparently lots of men get left by their wives.

 

Stay strong, little buddy.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Still happily married.

 

You are still batting .1000 in the being wrong dept, Mr. Pretend Attorney.

[NewbieJr 541]

Apparently, they polled Newbie's ex.

I'm part of the third who left their wife. Now you, on the other hand, are in the majority. A sad sack piece of sh!t who's wife finally tired of his obsession with everything politics and him spending Friday and Saturday nights on messageboards.

 

What a focking loser.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

RP 1

Newbie 0

 

 

How's it feel to still be Worm's bored biotch?

[NewbieJr 541]

RP 1

Newbie 0

 

 

How's it feel to still be Worm's bored biotch?

If that was the case, wouldn't it be Worm 1, NewbieJr 0?

 

You're just totally losing it today. LOLOL What a focking toolbag.

 

 

And for the record, I'm just doing some good old-fashion messageboard ball busting. I never once wished divorce on you. You can go back and do a search. I may have called you a loser and an assdart, but I wouldn't wish that on anyone. It's unfortunate that you're all alone now, and maybe you can regroup and get your sh!t together and win her back. You have to admit, having a husband who spends all weekend trolling on messageboards is not an ideal life for a woman. Especially if what you say is true and she's a successful Pharma rep. How long did you really think she'd accept that life for herself?

[redtodd 7]

Makes sense. It is financially less crippling for them to walk than the man.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Makes sense. It is financially less crippling for them to walk than the man.

 

The study says women tend to face more financial problems after divorce, and I bet that's true. They usually win in the property settlement (especially when there are kids), but their future earning capacity is often much less than the husband's. That's because of the gender gap in wages and also because women lose some of their professional momentum if they take time off work to have/raise kids.

[penultimatestraw 473]

This doesn't surprise me, but my ex filing for divorce sure did.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

This doesn't surprise me, but my ex filing for divorce sure did.

 

What was her reasoning, if you don't mind me asking?

[penultimatestraw 473]

What was her reasoning, if you don't mind me asking?

She lost the "passion" in our relationship.

[Casual Observer 597]

The study says women tend to face more financial problems after divorce, and I bet that's true. They usually win in the property settlement (especially when there are kids), but their future earning capacity is often much less than the husband's. That's because of the gender gap in wages and also because women lose some of their professional momentum if they take time off work to have/raise kids.

 

The article says that women face more financial problems in conclusory fashion. I suspect that divorced men are pretty equally financially wrecked.

 

Speaking of the gender gap in wages, if it's true that there is a gap in wages solely based on gender, then wouldn't US businesses be hiring as many women as possible?

[Savage Beast 1]

She lost the "passion" in our relationship.

 

Did she nickname you Mike & Ike by chance?

[DankNuggs 305]

Still happily married.

 

You are still batting .1000 in the being wrong dept, Mr. Pretend Attorney.

Batting 1000 = 1.000

 

Your quote infers newbie is 90% right

[NewbieJr 541]

Batting 1000 = 1.000

 

Your quote infers newbie is 90% right

:lol:

[IGotWorms 4,060]

The article says that women face more financial problems in conclusory fashion.

 

Do you have something that says otherwise? A link to another, more scientifically valid study, perhaps?

[jerryskids 6,926]

She lost the "passion" in our relationship.

 

I'm having beers with two buddies on Thursday, both of whom had their wives recently leave them for similar reasons. One has only been married a little over a year, the other maybe 3 years. The thing I don't get is: neither guy was very "passionate" going into the marriage; more stoic in nature. So the women knew what type of guy they were marrying.

[Casual Observer 597]

Do you have something that says otherwise? A link to another, more scientifically valid study, perhaps?

 

Here's a note from 101.5 The View out of Missoula, attributed to CBS news.

 

 

http://1015theview.com/women-bounce-back-better-than-men-after-divorce/

 

 

We can't assess the scientific validity of the studies because it is not shown to us in either article.

 

However, since you're not working again today, I'll leave the hunting to you.

[shovelheadt 71]

Not surprising at all to me.

 

- I can see men being the most unfaithful.

- I can also see men being more apt to be worthlessly content in their marriage.

- Women require more maintenance to keep them happy

- Women are easily manipulated by family, friends and other men looking for a nut

[DankNuggs 305]

Women have more financial incentive to initiate a divorce than men do... I don't think its any more complicated than that.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Here's a note from 101.5 The View out of Missoula, attributed to CBS news.

 

 

http://1015theview.com/women-bounce-back-better-than-men-after-divorce/

 

 

We can't assess the scientific validity of the studies because it is not shown to us in either article.

 

However, since you're not working again today, I'll leave the hunting to you.

 

Just as I thought: you don't have sh!t. So STFU.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

I'm having beers with two buddies on Thursday, both of whom had their wives recently leave them for similar reasons. One has only been married a little over a year, the other maybe 3 years. The thing I don't get is: neither guy was very "passionate" going into the marriage; more stoic in nature. So the women knew what type of guy they were marrying.

 

Sometimes I think many women don't know what marriage is all about. They want the relationship to remain as exciting as when you were first dating, when you were mysterious to each other and couldn't wait to learn more about each other. Well obviously it can't stay that way forever. And to even try to keep it exciting takes an enormous amount of energy - energy the husband may not have if he's out trying to build a career for the good of the family.

 

Women want to have their cake and eat it too. They want a good provider, an excellent father, a best friend, and yet somehow they also expect the man to keep them endlessly intrigued.

[Casual Observer 597]

Just as I thought: you don't have sh!t. So STFU.

 

Do you know how to read?

[NewbieJr 541]

Sometimes I think many women don't know what marriage is all about. They want the relationship to remain as exciting as when you were first dating, when you were mysterious to each other and couldn't wait to learn more about each other. Well obviously it can't stay that way forever. And to even try to keep it exciting takes an enormous amount of energy - energy the husband may not have if he's out trying to build a career for the good of the family.

 

Women want to have their cake and eat it too. They want a good provider, an excellent father, a best friend, and yet somehow they also expect the man to keep them endlessly intrigued.

I think women initiate more divorces because men are more inclined to just go out and grab some side pieces of ass if they aren't happy at home. Yes, finances have something to do with it, as well, but I think men will cheat more for sexual satisfaction while women who cheat do it more for emotional reasons. And yes, that ties in to what you said. They do it more for the feeling in their heart/brains. And if a hypothetical couple are both cheating on each other, the woman is more likely to want to leave to be with the guy she's having an emotional attachment with, than the man is for his sexual attachment.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,511]

I know a few guys who have told me the only reason they are'nt leaving their wives is because they can't afford too. Their lifestyle would change dramatically and any BS they have to deal with is worth it over the alternative.

[TD Ryan2 316]

a woman marries a man hoping to change him.

a man marries a woman hoping she'll never change.

Recipe for Disaster.

 

Sure, I'll agree that it's mainly a financial thing for the woman to initiate the divorce.

But it's also this:

- a man just wants to be left alone. Eat. Work. Fock. Hobby. That's it. It's pretty simple. That's why a man doesn't file for divorce - and it's also why a woman wants to leave him.

 

I guess it just comes down to a man is too focking lazy to file for divorce - he just wants to be left alone, headache free.

[parrot 789]

Not surprising at all to me.

 

- I can see men being the most unfaithful.

 

 

Do we think this is true? In my circle I know way more guys who were cheated on than who did the cheating, to the best of my knowledge anyway.

[southcarolina 166]

a woman marries a man hoping to change him.

a man marries a woman hoping she'll never change.

Recipe for Disaster.

 

 

 

Chicken dinner.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

If that was the case, wouldn't it be Worm 1, NewbieJr 0?

 

You're just totally losing it today. LOLOL What a focking toolbag.

 

 

And for the record, I'm just doing some good old-fashion messageboard ball busting. I never once wished divorce on you. You can go back and do a search. I may have called you a loser and an assdart, but I wouldn't wish that on anyone. It's unfortunate that you're all alone now, and maybe you can regroup and get your sh!t together and win her back. You have to admit, having a husband who spends all weekend trolling on messageboards is not an ideal life for a woman. Especially if what you say is true and she's a successful Pharma rep. How long did you really think she'd accept that life for herself?

 

 

You continue with your "Dear Diary" fantasies about my life......yet claim I'm obseessed with yours.

 

Too funny.

[MDC 7,590]

Still happily married.

 

You are still batting .1000 in the being wrong dept, Mr. Pretend Attorney.

 

It's sort of weird how after what seems like 10 years of never once referring to a wife or family, this year you started mentioning them constantly.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

It's sort of weird how after what seems like 10 years of never once referring to a wife or family, this year you started mentioning them constantly.

 

Pull out that scapbook you have of my every post and do some homework.

[MDC 7,590]

 

Pull out that scapbook you have of my every post and do some homework.

 

Oh it's all in my head? Okay.

[penultimatestraw 473]

I'm having beers with two buddies on Thursday, both of whom had their wives recently leave them for similar reasons. One has only been married a little over a year, the other maybe 3 years. The thing I don't get is: neither guy was very "passionate" going into the marriage; more stoic in nature. So the women knew what type of guy they were marrying.

Pretty true in our relationship too. We were married for a couple years after dating for 3. She remarried a coworker within a year of our divorce, so perhaps "passion" equates to interested in someone else/cheating. To her credit she later apologized to me for being immature, adding she should have done more to salvage our marriage. Maybe her passion was fading for marriage #2 at the time?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Oh it's all in my head? Okay.

You have demonstrated to the bored very well there is nothing in your head.

[penultimatestraw 473]

Here's a note from 101.5 The View out of Missoula, attributed to CBS news.

 

 

http://1015theview.com/women-bounce-back-better-than-men-after-divorce/

 

 

We can't assess the scientific validity of the studies because it is not shown to us in either article.

 

However, since you're not working again today, I'll leave the hunting to you.

Since women make 75-80% of men from the get-go, the gender pay gap still hasn't closed post-divorce.

[penultimatestraw 473]

Women have more financial incentive to initiate a divorce than men do... I don't think its any more complicated than that.

I think financial incentive has little to do with it, as divorce is ultimately costly for both parties. Perhaps men have more disincentive. FWIW, finances had zero role in my divorce. Without a lawyer it didn't cost much either.

[Casual Observer 597]

Since women make 75-80% of men from the get go, the gender pay gap still hasn't closed post-divorce.

 

I wasn't trying to tie the two ideas together (gender-based pay gap on one hand and women v. men financially post-divorce on the other). I just asked out loud a question that occurred to me on a prior occasion: if there is a pay gap based solely on gender, wouldn't US businesses be the first to exploit that gap and overload on hiring toward females. No one noticed but you (a compliment). What I am driving at however, is the idea that a gap in pay rates between and women, as measured on a very broad average with multiple data points may not be so simply explained as what it is portrayed (a kind of gender discrimination).

[MDC 7,590]

You have demonstrated to the bored very well there is nothing in your head.

 

So you're really married and just never mentioned it for 10 years - no need to get all defensive.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

So you're really married and just never mentioned it for 10 years - no need to get all defensive.

Further confirmation of my last post.