Is Benghazi Obama's Waterloo?

[drobeski 3,061]

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They left them to die.

Impeach and imprison the criminals.

[NewbieJr 541]

I bet this ends up costing Obama his job in about three years. RP was right. This was his Waterloo.

[drobeski 3,061]

I bet this ends up costing Obama his job in about three years. RP was right. This was his Waterloo.

He lied and cheated to win the election.

 

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[NewbieJr 541]

He lied and cheated to win the election.

 

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I just checked. They still consider him the President. Sound familiar? ***

[drobeski 3,061]

I just checked. They still consider him the President. Sound familiar? ***

If the right thing is done, articles of impeachment soon to follow.

[NewbieJr 541]

If the right thing is done, articles of impeachment soon to follow.

Don't hold your breath. You know, liberal media and all.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Prolly too busy searching youtube for a video to blame to OK a rescue.

 

 

 

Special ops halted from responding to Benghazi attacks, U.S. diplomat says

 

 

 

As the weakly protected U.S. diplomatic compound in eastern Libya came under attack the night of Sept. 11, 2012, the deputy head of the embassy in Tripoli 600 miles away sought in vain to get the Pentagon to scramble fighter jets over Benghazi in a show of force that he said might have averted a second attack on a nearby CIA complex.

 

Hours later, according to excerpts of the account by the U.S. diplomat, Gregory Hicks, American officials in the Libyan capital sought permission to deploy four U.S. Special Operations troops to Benghazi aboard a Libyan military aircraft early the next morning. The troops were told to stand down.

 

Defense Department officials have said they had no units that could have responded in time to counter the attack in Benghazi, but Republicans on Capitol Hill have questioned whether the Obama administration could have saved lives with a nimbler, more assertive response. They say that the reluctance to send the Special Operations troops may have, at the very least, deprived wounded Americans in Benghazi of first aid.

 

Congressional investigators released a partial transcript of Hicks’s testimony Monday ahead of a hearing Wednesday at which he is scheduled to appear. His remarks are the first public account from a U.S. official who was in Libya at the time of the attacks about the options that were weighed as militants mobbed the American diplomatic outpost and CIA station in Ben­ghazi, killing U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other government employees.

 

The new details are certain to reignite a debate over whether the Obama administration has been sufficiently forthcoming in its public accounting of the events and missteps that resulted in the first death of a U.S. ambassador in the line of duty in a generation. If Republicans in Congress succeed in portraying the administration’s response as feckless, the episode could dog any future political aspirations of Hillary Rodham Clinton, who was secretary of state when the attacks happened.

 

After the attacks ended without planes being scrambled or special forces dispatched, the lieutenant colonel in Tripoli who commanded the Special Operations team told Hicks he was sorry that his men had been held back.

 

“I’ve never been so embarrassed in my life that a State Department officer has bigger balls than someone in the military,” the officer told Hicks, according to the diplomat’s account. Hicks called that “a nice compliment.”

 

Hicks may have been the last American official to speak with Stevens. After an embassy security official ran into his residence to tell him about the initial attack, Hicks managed to get Stevens on the phone. “Greg, we’re under attack,” Stevens blurted out, according to Hicks. “My response is ‘Okay,’ and I’m about to say something else and the line clicks.”

 

The administration has said the independent review of the Benghazi assault was exhaustive, and State Department officials have vowed to implement reforms to make U.S. missions abroad safer. Republicans, however, say Hicks’s account suggests the administration has not been entirely truthful.

 

“The White House and the Pentagon have allowed us to believe that there were no military options on the table,” Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) said in a phone interview. “The model of the military is to leave no person behind, and it’s stunning and unacceptable to think we had military willing and ready to go and the Pentagon told them to stand down. That’s just not the American way.”

 

Chaffetz said the troops who were not allowed to travel to Benghazi would have arrived after the attack on the CIA base but may have provided first aid to wounded personnel. He noted that the order to keep them from traveling was given before the second attack.

 

A Pentagon spokesman said he would review the Hicks testimony. “We have repeatedly stated that while Department officials started taking action immediately after learning that an attack was underway at the American facility there, our forces were unable to reach it in time to intervene to stop the attacks,” Pentagon spokesman George Little said in an e-mail Monday night.

 

State Department spokesman Patrick Ventrell told reporters that the Republican-led inquiry appears to be politicized, saying it was “not a collaborative process.”

 

He said, however, that the State Department is not seeking to suppress the accounts of whistleblowers. “We have always encouraged any State Department employee who wants to share their story and tell the truth,” he said.

 

Part of the Benghazi debate has focused on whether prompt action might have saved lives. In the initial attack, militants overran the compound where Stevens was staying and he and another State Department officer, Sean Smith, were killed. Others made their way to a nearby annex used by the CIA, where two Americans, former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, died in an attack several hours later.

 

Hicks, a veteran Foreign Service officer who is scheduled to testify before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Wednesday, told congressional staffers that he and others in Libya thought that flying U.S. military jets over Benghazi during the early hours of the attack could have had a deterrent effect.

 

“If we had been able to scramble a fighter or aircraft or two over Benghazi as quickly as possible after the attack commenced, I believe there would not have been a mortar attack on the [CIA] annex in the morning, because I believe the Libyans would have split,” Hicks said. “They would have been scared to death that we would have gotten a laser on them and killed them.”

 

Hicks said that late on the night of Sept. 11 he called the embassy’s defense attache, Lt. Col. Keith Phillips, and asked about the viability of sending jets.

 

“Is there anything coming?” Hicks said he asked Phillips.

 

Phillips told Hicks that the nearest planes were at Aviano Air Base in Italy and that it would take two to three hours to get them off the ground, the diplomat told congressional staffers. There also were no aircraft nearby that could have refueled airborne planes.

 

“The answer was, it’s too far away, there are no tankers, there is nothing, there is nothing that could respond,” he said.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-ops-halted-from-responding-to-benghazi-attacks-us-diplomat-says/2013/05/06/c3f311d4-b677-11e2-aa9e-a02b765ff0ea_print.html

[NewbieJr 541]

This is a top five all-time thread for me. Watching RP try desperately to make this a national scandal is simply a treat for me. Plus, he doesn't know what the term "Waterloo" means. That's icing on the cake.

[Phurfur 70]

This is a top five all-time thread for me. Watching RP try desperately to make this a national scandal is simply a treat for me. Plus, he doesn't know what the term "Waterloo" means. That's icing on the cake.

Our government left four Federal Employees in the desert to die while they watched live video feeds and then lied about it to the American people and you see nothing wrong with that.

 

Compared to Benghazi Watergate was a joke.

[NewbieJr 541]

Our government left four Federal Employees in the desert to die while they watched live video feeds and then lied about it to the American people and you see nothing wrong with that.

 

Compared to Benghazi Watergate was a joke.

"Ain't nothing gonna break my stride. Nobody gonna hold me down...no no, I got to keep on moving"

 

Matthew Wilder

[drobeski 3,061]

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[NewbieJr 541]

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[Recliner Pilot 61]

"What difference does it make?"---Hitlery.

[Phurfur 70]

The Ansar al Sharia Brigade, the Islamist terror group linked to the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, continues to operate freely in that Libyan city, according to U.S. military officials.

 

The group remains active in the Mediterranean port city, operating patrols and checkpoints, and earlier this year reached an agreement with other Islamist groups allowing it to operate openly, said military officials familiar with intelligence reports from North Africa.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/07/islamist-militia-linked-to-sept-11-benghazi-attack-operates-freely-in-city/?test=latestnews#ixzz2Sd03UcRU

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Bin Laden continued to operate for almost a decade after 9/11. Obama took care of that problem and I'm sure he'll take care of this guy too when the time is right

[drobeski 3,061]

Bin Laden continued to operate for almost a decade after 9/11. Obama took care of that problem and I'm sure he'll take care of this guy too when the time is right

Hey its captain fake outrage racist kid

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Hey its captain fake outrage racist kid

 

And you must be Dr. Fat Dumb Obeski

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Bin Laden continued to operate for almost a decade after 9/11. Obama took care of that problem and I'm sure he'll take care of this guy too when the time is right

Bin Laden?

 

"That happened a long time ago."---Jay Carney Barker.

[drobeski 3,061]

The truth is finally coming out about this "non story"

 

The low information hacks eat crow again

[Recliner Pilot 61]

The truth is finally coming out about this "non story"

 

The low information hacks eat crow again

Not a single piece of evidence that has come out since the day of the attack has supported the administration's narrative, which works out great for MDC and the rest of the Obama cacksuckers who don't care about the truth.

[MDC 7,461]

Not a single piece of evidence that has come out since the day of the attack has supported the administration's narrative, which works out great for MDC and the rest of the Obama cacksuckers who don't care about the truth.

 

Reminds me of Iraq, only with 4 dead instead of thousands and this time you're crying like a little b1tch.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Reminds me of Iraq, only with 4 dead instead of thousands and this time you're crying like a little b1tch.

Bush!

 

 

"That was a long time ago"--Jay Carney Barker.

[rholio 339]

Not a single piece of evidence that has come out since the day of the attack has supported the administration's narrative, which works out great for MDC and the rest of the Obama cacksuckers who don't care about the truth.

 

Hopefully you're as concerned about the truth when the next Repubtard scandal hits.

[MDC 7,461]

Hopefully you're as concerned about the truth when the next Repubtard scandal hits.

 

He never was before why start now?

[drobeski 3,061]

Hopefully you're as concerned about the truth when the next Repubtard scandal hits.

Is that your way of excusing your boys incompetent and criminal behavior ?

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Reminds me of Iraq, only with 4 dead instead of thousands and this time you're crying like a little b1tch.

 

RP was horribly upset when Colin Powell lied to the UN and when D!ck Cheney and Condoleeza Rice were scaring folk into war with talk about mushroom clouds.

 

Don't you remember him posting threads about it every day? Calling for Congressional investigations? Demanding accountability from George W himself?

[rholio 339]

Is that your way of excusing your boys incompetent and criminal behavior ?

 

Not mine. Just thinking how upset all of you guys get when it's a Republican scandal instead of a Democrat one.

[Phurfur 70]

Not mine. Just thinking how upset all of you guys get when it's a Republican scandal instead of a Democrat one.

We are talking about four murdered people not a scandal. Your lefty Reductio ad absurdum is pathetic.

 

Revelations from State Department "whistle-blowers" on the Benghazi terror attack allege that requests for military rescue were turned down and that the White House was immediately aware that the CIA concluded the Libyan attackers were linked to al-Qaeda.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/05/07/bengahzi-revelations/2141413/

This is not a scandal. it is criminal.

[rholio 339]

We are talking about four murdered people not a scandal. Your lefty Reductio ad absurdum is pathetic.

 

 

This is not a scandal. it is criminal.

 

Right.

 

Iran-Contra was illegal, and a scandal. See how that works? It's not exclusive to one or the other dumbfock. Your righty Reducto ad absurdum is pathetic.

All I said was that I hope all of you partisan hacks are as concerned when it's your party with its nuts in the ringer. Past experience says that won't happen though.

[BudBro 183]

none of the questions that need answered have even been asked yet. why was the ambassador flown in there on short notice for a nighttime meeting without proper security and alone? who authorized that and who called that meeting? and what was it to accomplish? why were there mall cops from another country "protecting" him? what weapons were those seals chasing? who had them and why did they have them? why was the ambassador recruiting al-qaeda fighters and who authorized that? was it a kidnapping attempt that got double-crossed? who did the double-cross on obama and why? what did he say or do to make them change the plan? if there really were drones watching, why were they not armed to do something? why no communication from or with obama during the fight? where was he and why does nobody care about his deriliction of duty? why were the other people at the other cia compound told to stand down? when the fight moved to the other compound, help could have already been there, why wasn't it? how many prisoners were being held in that cia compound? who was in charge of those prisoners? why were the being held? who authorized their capture and why? where are those prisoners now and why have nobody questioned them? where are the cia compound people and why have they not been questioned? what was being negotiated with egypt and who was negotiating it? why haven't the people that have personal relationships with the ambassador been interviewed? what was the relationship between the ambassador and the president? was their relationship strained? then, all the lying about the stupid muslim youtube video. how dumb are obama voters that they believe that story? hilary and obama and rice and all the generals involved should be sent to fort leavenworth for the rest of their existence.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

"Death is a part of life."-Dem. Rep. Elijah Cummings.

 

I guess that means we can move on.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

RP was horribly upset when Colin Powell lied to the UN and when D!ck Cheney and Condoleeza Rice were scaring folk into war with talk about mushroom clouds.

 

Don't you remember him posting threads about it every day? Calling for Congressional investigations? Demanding accountability from George W himself?

I was not a member here prior to the start of the Iraq war, but don't let facts get in the way of your obsession with me.

[The Moz 69]

RP was horribly upset when Colin Powell lied to the UN and when D!ck Cheney and Condoleeza Rice were scaring folk into war with talk about mushroom clouds.

 

Don't you remember him posting threads about it every day? Calling for Congressional investigations? Demanding accountability from George W himself?

Worms so you don't think what the Obama administration did coverign this up - was pretty focked up? I am pretty sure everyone knows how shitty W was as a POTUS - hence the reason why we voted for a wacko in Obama in the first place. Just becasue W sucked ass doesn't mean Obama should get a free pass

[IGotWorms 4,058]

I gotta admit that testimony was somewhat damning. Obviously it's clear that the Youtube video was total BS designed to protect Obama from charges that a terrorist attack happened on his watch right before the election.

 

Thing is it seemed to trace to Clinton and she has already taken responsibility and also is no longer in the Administration. Rice is also already gone too. So I don't know where the Republicans' probe goes from here unless they want to veer into BudBro's wild conspiracy theory territory.

[The Moz 69]

I gotta admit that testimony was somewhat damning. Obviously it's clear that the Youtube video was total BS designed to protect Obama from charges that a terrorist attack happened on his watch right before the election.

 

Thing is it seemed to trace to Clinton and she has already taken responsibility and also is no longer in the Administration. Rice is also already gone too. So I don't know where the Republicans' probe goes from here unless they want to veer into BudBro's wild conspiracy theory territory.

So you really don't think Obama (who is a control freak anyway) didn't know everything maybe not as it happened but close to it? Yeah HRC basically fessing up gave him denability but anyone that actually thinks he didn't know what was happening is deluded.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I gotta admit that testimony was somewhat damning. Obviously it's clear that the Youtube video was total BS designed to protect Obama from charges that a terrorist attack happened on his watch right before the election.

Thing is it seemed to trace to Clinton and she has already taken responsibility and also is no longer in the Administration. Rice is also already gone too. So I don't know where the Republicans' probe goes from here unless they want to veer into BudBro's wild conspiracy theory territory.

Testimony revealed there were Special Ops getting on a plane in Tripoli to help, but were ordered to stand down. That is not Hitlery's call. That is Commander In Chief decisions.

 

You can continue to push the narrative that Obama was an out of the loop rube if you want, but the facts say otherwise.

[vuduchile 1,945]

I know it's asking too much for some of you to look at this situation objectively, without your party affiliation clouding your judgement, but you really should try.

 

 

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Man, The Carney Barker is getting skewered in a hastily called presser to try to cover the Admin's ass.

[BudBro 183]

these f&*king pages won't load unless you allow facebook and a couple of google sites to track you. the new format includes a bunch of new sites that track with lso cookies. please scrap this new forum system and go back to the old, please.

 

Elements of the February 17 Martyrs Brigade, the Libyan militia hired by the U.S. State Department to station members as residents inside the U.S. compound in Benghazi and to protect the U.S. diplomats there, were “complicit” in the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attack that killed Amb. Chris Stevens and three other Americans, according to the testimony of Greg Hicks, who was the department's second-ranking diplomat in Libya at the time of the attack.

 

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/testimony-elements-militia-state-dept-hired-station-members-inside-benghazi-compound

 

this whole play was an inside job by obama and hilary, which i still think is odd that she'd ever help his sorry a$$ after he stole the primary for her election bid and cost the chance to beat mccain and then he stole hilarycare as a f&*k you. nobody with any real sense can believe this anything but a cover-up with criminal implications.

[pussycat 0]

All that stuff about Whitewater and Bill gets re-elected. And not one iota of any charges sticking. It actually turned my mom from republican to independent. And you know what, Hillary will still get elected in 2016. And my mom will vote for her. Republicans should quit being so mean and angry. Jmho.