Is Benghazi Obama's Waterloo?

[DankNuggs 305]

Uh, you speak for the party that gave Bush the world's biggest mulligan on 9/11 and the Iraq War but you keep insisting that Youtube-gate is the biggest political scandal of the century.

 

But I'm the partisan one.

I look at it like this:

 

Bush reacted to intelligence he felt was correct and turned out to be incorrect. No reports ever came out that said he knew going in that WMDs were a ruse. Hell, there are probably a plethora of unaccounted for WMDs hanging around the globe... His intelligence proved to be wrong, and shame on him. He wiped out an evil dictator but spent too much time, money, and soldiers trying to put humpty dumpty back together again when the directions were in arabic and said clearly on page 1 "We will ever be barbarians"

 

Obama we have learned had intimate knowledge of the truth, and then ran a giant lie through the state department/susan rice BS...

 

 

I get the whole hating republicans on social stances because they are ridiculous, I tend to ignore the issues that don't seem relevant rather than rage against them because fiscal issues trump social by huge factors. If i could choose a democrat with a semblance of fiscal acuity i'd look hard into voting that direction. But that isn't an option. Its either fiscal wackjob and reasonable socially, or reasonable fiscally and wackjob socially... being i put fiscal over social, thats how i tend to fall on things...

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I'm not the one who's posted 10 solid pages of Obummer! threads in the past couple years. I'm also not the guy who's convinced an fbi surveillance van is watching my every move.

Oooh.....major backlash on that cast.

 

Please try again.

[NewbieJr 541]

I think the fact they were telling the White House Al Qeuda was training in the area and they requested on several occasions that more security be sent. These requests were denied.....people died.

 

We might also be angry for the White House watching it live for 7 hours and refusing to send help. Those requests were denied.....people died.

 

We might also be angry because the French and the Red Cross took heed of the warning and got their people out. The White House left our people in there with little security......and people died.

 

The cover up is just one of many reasons.

 

HTH

I guess the GOP didn't get your thread out to the masses. This is a WAAAAYYYYY bigger story on Fox News and in your head than it is anywhere else.

[TheBlade 3]

OK clearly you didn't read the part I wrote about the biggest fock up being people died. Whatever. Your 2nd grade literary skills are something I need to deal with when I post here.

 

But where did everyone else go? 'skids? 'nuggs? I mean I usually view those guys as fairly reasonable people that I like to go back and forth with because they are clearly not partisan hacks. But this thread got super quiet all of a sudden. Jerryskids... do you not feel the need to concede that I was right? I mean WTF???? I've been wrong in my initial reaction to shiit that has happened and I always acknowledge I was wrong. You guys just abandoned me?

 

I'm losing respect for you two. Jus' sayin'

You're right. I thought Benghazi was a bigger issue than it actually was. Clearly I was wrong.

 

The whole thing still bothers me, and it's not because I'm anit-Obama. But, clearly the rest of America sees it as a non-issue, so it is what it is. I just hope they get some things figured out in the hearings coming up.

[BudBro 183]

I guess the GOP didn't get your thread out to the masses. This is a WAAAAYYYYY bigger story on Fox News and in your head than it is anywhere else.

passing out "made in the usa" stinger missiles to terrorists and recruiting al qaeda freaks to kill qadaffi and assad (eventually) in order to install muslim brotherhood leadership into the region is kind of a big deal. see, there's some concern that those missiles might be used against airplanes that transport civilians to and from places. i realize sacrificing a gay ambassador and a couple of seals is nothing to us democrats, as long as the bigger picture gets accomplished of building up islam to confront israel. some people don't like it though.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

passing out "made in the usa" stinger missiles to terrorists and recruiting al qaeda freaks to kill qadaffi and assad (eventually) in order to install muslim brotherhood leadership into the region is kind of a big deal. see, there's some concern that those missiles might be used against airplanes that transport civilians to and from places. i realize sacrificing a gay ambassador and a couple of seals is nothing to us democrats, as long as the bigger picture gets accomplished of building up islam to confront israel. some people don't like it though.

 

You are trying to debate with a moron who thinks whether or not Rick Astley will release another CD is more important then events in the Middle East......and someone who knows more about the former than he does about the latter.

[Voltaire 5,317]

Haters were desperate. Complete ass of rat. Last post/time opening thread.

[NewbieJr 541]

You are trying to debate with a moron who thinks whether or not Rick Astley will release another CD is more important then events in the Middle East......and someone who knows more about the former than he does about the latter.

You started a thread thinking this was going to be Obama's downfall. He ended up destroying your boy. I wouldn't be throwing the word 'moron' around, Hair Lip. :lol:

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Haters were desperate. Complete ass of rat. Last post/time opening thread.

You shoulda never opened it. It exposes your hero as an inept, narcissistic ass who was more concerned with his political career than the lives of an Ambassador and Navy SEALs.

 

It also exposes him, once again, as a lying sack after the fact.

 

I never had any illusion the media would actually do it's job, but the fact remains he sat around watching American's die after they asked him to send help.

 

You clowns can spin it all you want, but those facts can't be spun away.

[BudBro 183]

TEL AVIV – Did Paula Broadwell, the alleged mistress of ex-CIA Director David Petraeus, reveal a secret CIA detention center in Benghazi during a public speech she gave last month?

 

Broadwell, a former counterterror operative, co-authored a bestselling biography of Petraeus, titled “All In.” She discussed the book during a keynote speech on Oct. 26 at a University of Denver alumni symposium. The speech is available in full on YouTube.

 

During a question-and-answer session, Broadwell was asked about this year’s Sept. 11 attacks against the U.S. mission in Benghazi.

 

She stated: “Now I don’t know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually had taken a couple of Libya militia members prisoner. And they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that’s still being vetted.”

 

The existence of a U.S. prison or CIA detention center in Benghazi would be a new development in the debate surrounding the attacks there. The information does not appear to be publicly known.

 

An extensive WND search of news media coverage of the Benghazi attacks could find no mention of prisoners being held at the CIA annex.

 

Yesterday, the New York Times reported that House Majority Leader Eric Cantor spoke to an FBI whistleblower two weeks ago who accused Petraeus of not only having an extramarital affair, but potentially jeopardizing the security of classified information.

 

During the same university speech, Broadwell may have also divulged information that Petraeus knew “within 24 hours” of CIA annex’s request for reinforcements, reported Israel National News.

 

“The challenging thing for Gen. Petraeus,” she stated, “is that in his new position, he’s not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of this – they had correspondence with the CIA station chief in Libya, within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening.”

 

Earlier she had said the military could have sent reinforcements.

 

“They were requesting the – it’s called the C-in-C’s In Extremis Force – a group of Delta Force operators, our very, most talented guys we have in the military. They could have come and reinforced the consulate and the CIA annex.”

paula broadwell video

[MDC 7,444]

UPDATE 11/12: Obummer won.

[BudBro 183]

UPDATE 11/12: Obummer won.

oh yeah, sorry. i think that victory is a tremendous bend-over-forward for america. spectacular time in history and what-not.

 

maybe then, the title of this thread could be changed to "Is Benghazi Obama's Exile to Saint Helena?"

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

oh yeah, sorry. i think that victory is a tremendous bend-over-forward for america. spectacular time in history and what-not.

 

maybe then, the title of this thread could be changed to "Is Benghazi Obama's Exile to Saint Helena?"

 

No, but last Tuesday did resemble Austerlitz.

[BudBro 183]

No, but last Tuesday did resemble Austerlitz.

i agree. a proverbial arse-whooping for us good guys (i switched parties...bandwagon jumper). the Weimer Republic is set up.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Petraeus confirms the White House is full of lying sacks.

 

 

 

 

In Benghazi testimony, Petraeus says al Qaeda role known early

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former CIA Director David Petraeus told Congress on Friday that he and the spy agency had sought to make clear from the outset that September's deadly attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, involved an al Qaeda affiliate, lawmakers said.

 

Petraeus told lawmakers "there were extremists in the group" that launched the attack on the diplomatic mission, describing them as affiliates of al Qaeda and other groups, said Representative C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger, the top Democrat on the House of Representatives intelligence committee.

 

"The fact is that he clarified it," Ruppersberger said.

 

Petraeus appeared behind closed doors before the House and Senate intelligence panels the week after quitting his CIA post because of an extramarital affair. He made no public remarks.

 

Another lawmaker, Republican Representative Peter King, said Petraeus' account in the closed-door session differed from the assessment the CIA chief gave to Congress two months ago, just days after the September 11 attack that killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans

 

http://news.yahoo.com/intelligence-committees-see-film-benghazi-attack-014842991.html

[BudBro 183]

Petraeus confirms the White House is full of lying sacks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://news.yahoo.com/intelligence-committees-see-film-benghazi-attack-014842991.html

he will have to produce the original conclusion he wrote and congress will have to see where the changes got made and by whom. if it was done by the "campaign" (whomever that might be...axelrod, jarrett,?) then we have a president that isn't tending to business. if the president knew about the attack at 1 hour and 18 minutes into it, as has been stated, then he also knew what patraeus knows and allowed the story to be changed. repubs don't have the nuts to pursue charges of this magnitude against a black dude. hillary needs to be brought up on charges also. fort leavenworth, ks, could be getting some VIPs.

[Gepetto 1,368]

Until Friday, there were two possible explanations for why the White House failed to immediately call the Benghazi attack an act of terrorism. One was incompetence, the other was worse.

 

Now there is only one, and it is the worse one. Based on the persuasive testimony of ex-CIA boss David Petraeus, it is clear the Obama administration made a deliberate decision to mislead Congress and the American people.

 

The repeated claim that the attack was spontaneous and grew out of a demonstration against an anti-Islam video — a claim made by the president and secretary of State as they stood next to the bodies of four dead Americans — was a monstrous lie. It was vile and done for the basest of reasons.

 

Because we now know the truth of what happened — CIA reports were edited to remove the names of al Qaeda groups involved in the attack, Petraeus said under oath — we also know the motive. It was political self-preservation, meaning the president and his team put politics first.

 

 

 

Based on the persuasive testimony of ex-CIA boss David Petraeus, it is clear the Obama administration made a deliberate decision to mislead Congress and the American people.

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The timing helps tell the tale. Just days removed from his Charlotte convention, where he danced on the grave of Osama bin Laden and boasted that al Qaeda was decimated, Obama couldn’t bear to admit that affiliated groups were thriving in North Africa. And he certainly couldn’t admit they had carried out a murderous attack on our consulate on the 11th anniversary of the most awful day in American history.

 

To do so would be to acknowledge the failure of his decision to ignore hard-line Islamists and that his team had erred egregiously in rejecting pleas for more security from Libya Ambassador Chris Stevens.

 

So the president lied, including in a speech to the United Nations, where he cited the video as the reason for the attack. He sent out reams of flunkies to do the same, including his snide press secretary, Jay Carney.

 

Most notably, UN Ambassador Susan Rice went on five Sunday television shows to spin the nonsense about the hijacking of a demonstration — a demonstration that never existed. Rice made a fool of herself, and now, she, too is damaged goods.

 

Oddly, Petraeus, brought down by the reckless affair with his biographer, nonetheless looks like the only honest man in the drama.

 

A briefing he gave soon after the attack is now more suspect because it adhered to the party line, despite his belief that it was always a terrorist attack.

 

But Friday in his testimony behind closed doors, Petraeus told the truth as he knew it, even though the administration announced the day before that it was investigating his conduct at the CIA.

 

If that was meant to pressure him to protect the president, it failed spectacularly. Whatever his personal failings, Petraeus reinforced his reputation for professional integrity.

 

The next move is up to Congress. While Democrats are predictably and shamefully trying to deny the significance of Petraeus’ revelation, Republicans say they are determined to get the full truth, wherever the hunt takes them.

 

Especially as the president begins a new term, and huge economic and tax difference must be resolved, the country would be better served if the administration co-operates. But their behavior up to now does not make that seem likely. Having built their web of lies, it would be hard to suddenly come clean.

 

The first tests will come with the next round of hearings. Any attempt by the White House to block the appearance of any official who played a role in shaping the false narrative should be seen as proof that the stonewalling continues.

 

In that case, the full power of the constitution must be brought to bear. Nobody is above the law, even the president.

 

 

 

By Michael Goodwin

 

Published November 19, 2012

 

New York Post

 

 

[MDC 7,444]

Obummer will never get a 3rd term now.

 

Obummer!

[Phurfur 70]

At least four career officials at the State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency have retained lawyers or are in the process of doing so, as they prepare to provide sensitive information about the Benghazi attacks to Congress, Fox News has learned.

 

Victoria Toensing, a former Justice Department official and Republican counsel to the Senate Intelligence Committee, is now representing one of the State Department employees. She told Fox News her client and some of the others, who consider themselves whistle-blowers, have been threatened by unnamed Obama administration officials.

 

“I'm not talking generally, I'm talking specifically about Benghazi – that people have been threatened,” Toensing said in an interview Monday. “And not just the State Department. People have been threatened at the CIA.”

 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/29/obama-administration-officials-have-threatened-whistle-blowers-on-benghazi/#ixzz2RtwKHm41

 

Obama lied, Americans continue to die.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I guess Obama doesn't want anyone talking about that mean ol' Youtube video.

[The Moz 69]

Impeachment in the house?

[DankNuggs 305]

With all these attacks Obama is getting much better at spitting out the word 'terrorism'. Only took his a few days after the Boston bombing to spit it out...

[MDC 7,444]

Did Napoleon win re-election in a landslide and spend the next 4 years laughing at his whiny loser critics?

[drobeski 3,061]

The media and voter fraud made sure it was not his waterloo.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Obama lied, Americans continue to die.

 

Were these real threats or were they "Bob Woodward sh!tting his pants over a politely worded email" threats?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Most transparent administration in history!!!!!

[Phurfur 70]

Most transparent administration in history!!!!!

Remember this guy?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72g7qmeP1dE

 

[The Moz 69]

Of course the truth didn't come out till well after the election - when no one would really care.

[MDC 7,444]

Of course the truth didn't come out till well after the election - when no one would really care.

 

Most people didn't care before the election either.

[NewbieJr 541]

You Republitards should organize a Geek meet and play Yanni records and just huddle together and cry in each others' arms.

[MDC 7,444]

You Republitards should organize a Geek meet and play Yanni records and just huddle together and cry in each others' arms.

 

Will there be time for a DVD viewing of Beaches and Hagen Daas straight from the carton?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Most people didn't care before the election either.

You Obama cacksuckers are the only ones who didn't care that Obama did nothing while 4 Americans died.

[MDC 7,444]

You Obama cacksuckers are the only ones who didn't care that Obama did nothing while 4 Americans died.

 

Scoreboard?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Scoreboard?

4 dead Americans.

 

Countless lies by Obama and Hitlery.

[NewbieJr 541]

4 dead Americans.

 

Countless lies by Obama and Hitlery.

Left Romney in his path, B!tch.

[DankNuggs 305]

Left Romney in his path, B!tch.

Obama left prosperity in his path... Can't ignore reality forever. Fighting against gravity.

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

Is Benghazi Obama's Waterloo?

 

I'd say it's more like his Dancing Queen, maybe Take a Chance on Me.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Obama left prosperity in his path... Can't ignore reality forever. Fighting against gravity.

He also left 4 Americans to die.

 

But he won an election, so clowns like Ducky and MDC don't care about the truth.

[BudBro 183]

the obama administration was recruiting and paying the same al-qaida terrorists that our soldiers are fighting in various other parts of the world...and likely paying them more than we're paying our own soldiers.

[Phurfur 70]

Left Romney in his path, B!tch.

 

It is really pathetic when someone identifies himself by who he voted for.