FlaHawker 24 Posted January 15, 2014 Hi chime. Sure...its more of a statement that I would about guarantee they would have been at least 11-5 with Rodgers. They were 5-2 when he got hurt. Barely lost a game at home to Chicago that even Seneca Wallace had a shot at winning (and Rodgers had gone right down the field on them). I think they would have dropped maybe 2 of the remaining games. The Detroit game I will just write off as a loss. But after that, what game did they lose where Rodgers wouldn't have made a difference? Not shocked you didn't get the point that nobody is going to "bet" on outcomes that can't be verified and it was more of a figure of speech. But glad you could try to call someone else dumb...high comedy coming from you. Fockin Dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted January 15, 2014 Anyone who doesn't think Rodgers doesn't win a couple extra games for GB is an ignorant moron. Oh wait...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted January 15, 2014 Anyone who doesn't think Rodgers doesn't win a couple extra games for GB is an ignorant moron. Oh wait...... Link to me saying that Rodgers doesn't win a couple of extra games? Damn Murf. Did you ever take reading comprehension? I said making a statement abut betting on something that can never be verified is dumb. Holy crap!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted January 15, 2014 End of Packers BS. This is a championship week thread. Take your Squealer and Fudgepacker talk to the off-season threads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 16, 2014 Fockin Dumb. In other words...you have nothing to add as usual. Thanks...but we already know that before you even hit reply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 16, 2014 Link to me saying that Rodgers doesn't win a couple of extra games? Damn Murf. Did you ever take reading comprehension? I said making a statement abut betting on something that can never be verified is dumb. Holy crap!! Its great that you keep talking about dumb...since you don't grasp the concept of what was actually being said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uwmalcolm 74 Posted January 16, 2014 Its great that you keep talking about dumb...since you don't grasp the concept of what was actually being said. I bet I could've thrown the ball a quarter mile when I was back in high school. Is it worth me trying to explain how convinced I am that I could done this? Who's dumb? This is obviously a pointless discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrG 103 Posted January 16, 2014 Again, the 49ers had a more difficult schedule .... Again .... Seattle is and deserves to be the favorite. SF is rolling and Seattle doesn't look as dominant as it did early. I think SF wins a close one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 16, 2014 I think it's silly to debate the strength of schedule between Seattle and San Francisco because that was decided a long time ago, before the season started. Look the only games uncommon were that San Fran played Green Bay and Washington while Seattle played NY Giants and Minnesota, and that is basically a wash. The key is that San Fran had to play a grand total of 2 games on the East Coast at 1:00 PM. Seattle has to play 5 of them. Considering that this particular cross country trip has proven to be a bugaboo historically for West Coast teams, Seattle's schedule was stacked against them, not to mention that the first half of the season was front loaded with more road games than home games, and a stretch where the Seahawks had to play 4 road games in 5 weeks. Clearly, Seattle's schedule was built to make them struggle early on. The fact that they responded by going 11-1 out of the blocks is simply amazing. Most pundits picked San Fran to win the division over Seattle preseason because the San Fran schedule was much easier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 16, 2014 Look the only games uncommon were that San Fran played Green Bay and Washington while Seattle played NY Giants and Minnesota, and that is basically a wash. Most pundits picked San Fran to win the division over Seattle preseason because the San Fran schedule was much easier. Are you saying that, preseason, the Packers and Redskins were supposed to be "much easier" than the Vikings and Giants? The teams the Niners had scheduled were both defending division champions. And pundits already knew that New Orleans is dominant only at home. Seems to me that the 49ers had the indisputable harder schedule going into the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 16, 2014 Are you saying that, preseason, the Packers and Redskins were supposed to be "much easier" than the Vikings and Giants? The teams the Niners had scheduled were both defending division champions. And pundits already knew that New Orleans is dominant only at home. Seems to me that the 49ers had the indisputable harder schedule going into the season. Well, let's see. The Saints led the NFL in road wins since 2009, so take that lousy road record nonsense and shove it up your ass as you spout microwavable media tidbits based on no research whatsoever. Seattle went 6-2 on the road this year and some idiots still think they can't win on the road. Everybody in the NFC East sucked the past few years and continue to suck through this year. The Giants were at least as highly regarded as the Redskins, especially considering that Griffin never played a down in preseason so nobody knew if he could even walk. The Vikings made the playoffs last year and had the league's MVP on their team in AP. Were they that much different than the Packers? And you continue to ignore the scheduling dichotomy. Come on, you can do better than this garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 16, 2014 Well, let's see. The Saints led the NFL in road wins since 2009, so take that lousy road record nonsense and shove it up your ass as you spout microwavable media tidbits based on no research whatsoever. Seattle went 6-2 on the road this year and some idiots still think they can't win on the road. Everybody in the NFC East sucked the past few years and continue to suck through this year. The Giants were at least as highly regarded as the Redskins, especially considering that Griffin never played a down in preseason so nobody knew if he could even walk. The Vikings made the playoffs last year and had the league's MVP on their team in AP. Were they that much different than the Packers? And you continue to ignore the scheduling dichotomy. Come on, you can do better than this garbage. I wasn't talking strength of schedule, you were, Moron. I don't think there were any 'pundits' who thought the Vikings were going to be better than the Packers this year. I'll give you the wash with Washington and the Giants. As for New Orleans, their home field advantage is equal to the Seahawks. You know enough about football to not even attempt to argue that point. The pundits didn't pick San Francisco because of some strength of schedule nonsense. It was because they won the NFC last year, were going to have Kaepernick for the whole season instead of a partial one, and because they are better at every position than Seattle except for running back and defensive secondary. Oh, and 12th man. Without that home field factor this weekend, Seattle would be 7 point dogs in San Fran and you know it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 16, 2014 I wasn't talking strength of schedule, you were, Moron. I don't think there were any 'pundits' who thought the Vikings were going to be better than the Packers this year. I'll give you the wash with Washington and the Giants. As for New Orleans, their home field advantage is equal to the Seahawks. You know enough about football to not even attempt to argue that point. The pundits didn't pick San Francisco because of some strength of schedule nonsense. It was because they won the NFC last year, were going to have Kaepernick for the whole season instead of a partial one, and because they are better at every position than Seattle except for running back and defensive secondary. Oh, and 12th man. Without that home field factor this weekend, Seattle would be 7 point dogs in San Fran and you know it. Let me address the most egregious of your statements. Nobody is the equal of the Seahawks home field advantage. They have been at a tier above everybody else and will likely continue to be in the near future. No. The consensus was that Seattle clearly had the much better off season than San Francisco and had decidedly a more talented overall team and incredible depth. Seattle lost nothing of importance, resigned everybody, then added Michael Bennett, Cliff Avril, Antonio Winfield, Tony McDaniel, Tarvaris Jackson, and traded for Percy Harvin. Of course, Winfield ended up retired, but overall, nobody acquired as much talent and added to an already loaded roster. Yet, people were taking San Fran to win the division. Why? The schedule was easier. 1:00 EST game differences between the two teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 16, 2014 Nobody is the equal of the Seahawks home field advantage. They have been at a tier above everybody else and will likely continue to be in the near future. I'll concede you this point. But New Orleans is #2. Also, in the future, new stadiums will follow Seattle's blueprint and build amphitheater-type stadiums to enhance sound. Home field, in general, will become a much bigger factor for all of these teams. Seattle will be considered the pioneers in that strategy, but it's a copy cat league. Other teams now realize what a huge advantage this gives them. That decibel record will start bouncing around from one new stadium to the next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 16, 2014 I'll concede you this point. But New Orleans is #2. Also, in the future, new stadiums will follow Seattle's blueprint and build amphitheater-type stadiums to enhance sound. Home field, in general, will become a much bigger factor for all of these teams. Seattle will be considered the pioneers in that strategy, but it's a copy cat league. Other teams now realize what a huge advantage this gives them. That decibel record will start bouncing around from one new stadium to the next. Hey, the Kingdome was louder than fock too, one of the loudest places to play in the NFL. You have to consider a fan base as well. Some fans are more sociopathic than others. In Indy, those people clap politely and you can hear a pin drop when their team is on offense. As we go forward, more and more stadiums will have a hard time even filling up. But don't kid yourself. Nearly every stadium will be built to specifications to maximize profits for the owner, not worry about construction to funnel sound into making noise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrG 103 Posted January 16, 2014 Saying Green Bay and Minn were equal is just laughable. The 49ers beat them at full strength and on the road. 49ers are 7-0 since Crabtree came back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 16, 2014 Hey, the Kingdome was louder than fock too, one of the loudest places to play in the NFL. You have to consider a fan base as well. Some fans are more sociopathic than others. In Indy, those people clap politely and you can hear a pin drop when their team is on offense. As we go forward, more and more stadiums will have a hard time even filling up. But don't kid yourself. Nearly every stadium will be built to specifications to maximize profits for the owner, not worry about construction to funnel sound into making noise. Agreed. But like I said, it's a copy cat league. Seattle's success and the noise in that stadium are becoming big news stories. Why wouldn't a team want to build a stadium to give their team the same advantage? And just to be clear so you don't think I'm baiting you, I realize that you couldn't put Tampa Bay's crowd in Seattle's stadium and it would be just as loud. I'm not downplaying the Seahawk's fans' excitement and loyalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Groundhog 24 Posted January 16, 2014 Looks like KJ Wright practiced on Wednesday. First time since he broke his foot about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I take this as a good sign because he is one of the few guys who can match up well with Vernon Davis on a seam route, and he was playing all three downs. Chancellor can too of course. Question for next year: if Michael Bowie has another good game at LG, do we cut bait on Carpenter? The guy did not create ANY separation from McQuistan this season, and McQuistan is a journeyman. Which is why, I think, Cable threw in the towel and went with Bowie. Pete always talks about 'always compete' - well here's a 1st round guy who quite honestly looks like a bust. He's been given enough time to figure things out. Didn't work out at RT. Didn't work out at LG. It's pretty amazing honestly that this team is as good as it is with three years of 1st round picks not matching the hype. 2013: no pick in the Harvin deal 2012: Bruce Irvin...career saved by move to weak-side LB, but dominating? No. 2011: Carpenter Obviously 2010 was a fantastic year, with Okung and Earl. Those were home runs. But the fact that we have really not added much in any of the last three years, and yet continue to flourish, points out how well JS and PC are doing towards the back of the draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkfin 32 Posted January 16, 2014 I'll concede you this point. But New Orleans is #2. Also, in the future, new stadiums will follow Seattle's blueprint and build amphitheater-type stadiums to enhance sound. Home field, in general, will become a much bigger factor for all of these teams. Seattle will be considered the pioneers in that strategy, but it's a copy cat league. Other teams now realize what a huge advantage this gives them. That decibel record will start bouncing around from one new stadium to the next. Serously? You think the stadium and enhanced sound is the effect on why were so loud here. BS We the fans are the sole reason for this. We yell like no other! I couldn't even imagine how loud it would be if we were still in the full dome. Every home team has an advantage at home and the respective fans get loud. But, we feel we make an "actual impact" on the game and rev it up to the extream level and above most others on a daily game basis. Our team supports and honors us for that. Maybe its a cry for a championship or winner - I don't know. But, it's not the fing accustics nor a blueprint stadium. It's all us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted January 16, 2014 Without that home field factor this weekend, Seattle would be 7 point dogs in San Fran and you know it. I don't think you can get any dumber and then you come up with gems like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted January 16, 2014 . 49ers are 7-0 since Crabtree came back. Perfect. Due for a loss. Did you guys hit two pages in your little Whiner thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Groundhog 24 Posted January 16, 2014 Serously? You think the stadium and enhanced sound is the effect on why were so loud here. BS We the fans are the sole reason for this. We yell like no other! I couldn't even imagine how loud it would be if we were still in the full dome. Every home team has an advantage at home and the respective fans get loud. But, we feel we make in "actual impact" on the game and rev it up to the extream level and above most others on a daily game basis. Our team supports and honors us for that. Maybe its a cry for a championship or winner - I don't know. But, it's not the fing accustics nor a blueprint stadium. It's all us. Here's what I believe about Seattle fans. If the worst should happen and we get a "it's not even close" loss, like the Pats losing 28-13 (at HOME!) to the Ravens in last year's AFC Championship game, the fans will stick around for the whole game and cheer their team anyway. They will not file for the exits early like the Pats fans did last year, in droves. To me, that is the litmus test. Show your team that you appreciate what they did for you over this long season. Applaud their efforts even if ends badly. Maybe the Pats fans got jaded after three championships, I don't know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted January 16, 2014 Here's what I believe about Seattle fans. If the worst should happen and we get a "it's not even close" loss, like the Pats losing 28-13 (at HOME!) to the Ravens in last year's AFC Championship game, the fans will stick around for the whole game and cheer their team anyway. They will not file for the exits early like the Pats fans did last year, in droves. To me, that is the litmus test. Show your team that you appreciate what they did for you over this long season. Applaud their efforts even if ends badly. Maybe the Pats fans got jaded after three championships, I don't know. Bingo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 16, 2014 Serously? You think the stadium and enhanced sound is the effect on why were so loud here. BS We the fans are the sole reason for this. We yell like no other! I couldn't even imagine how loud it would be if we were still in the full dome. Every home team has an advantage at home and the respective fans get loud. But, we feel we make an "actual impact" on the game and rev it up to the extream level and above most others on a daily game basis. Our team supports and honors us for that. Maybe its a cry for a championship or winner - I don't know. But, it's not the fing accustics nor a blueprint stadium. It's all us. I hate to burst your bubble, but ESPN just had an acoustics expert do a story on Century Link Stadium this Monday. It was designed like an amphitheater. Both sides are built to funnel noise back onto the field. Like two big clamshells. And the "Hawks' Nest" area behind the endzone that seats 3000 people is made with aluminum seats. Which absorbs sound 13 times less than traditional plastic seats. When sound isn't absorbed, it reflects. When those 3000 people are screaming and stomping their feet and using their noise makers, it's creating a tremendous amount of noise. This is scientific fact. Undisputable. Like I said, other teams are taking note. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 16, 2014 Looks like KJ Wright practiced on Wednesday. First time since he broke his foot about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I take this as a good sign because he is one of the few guys who can match up well with Vernon Davis on a seam route, and he was playing all three downs. Chancellor can too of course. Question for next year: if Michael Bowie has another good game at LG, do we cut bait on Carpenter? The guy did not create ANY separation from McQuistan this season, and McQuistan is a journeyman. Which is why, I think, Cable threw in the towel and went with Bowie. Pete always talks about 'always compete' - well here's a 1st round guy who quite honestly looks like a bust. He's been given enough time to figure things out. Didn't work out at RT. Didn't work out at LG. It's pretty amazing honestly that this team is as good as it is with three years of 1st round picks not matching the hype. 2013: no pick in the Harvin deal 2012: Bruce Irvin...career saved by move to weak-side LB, but dominating? No. 2011: Carpenter Obviously 2010 was a fantastic year, with Okung and Earl. Those were home runs. But the fact that we have really not added much in any of the last three years, and yet continue to flourish, points out how well JS and PC are doing towards the back of the draft. I'd say at this point EVERYBODY who reads this thread with any regularity knows where I stand. Carpenter. Goodbye. Never wanted ya. Irvin. I'd restructure his deal, maybe keep him around longer for smaller money. Still a project player with his speed, but having little to no impact at all. Harvin will be a huge impact player, but might not pay full dividends until next year. It's a wait and see. Of course, the last 1st rounder is not a huge deal to give up, and that 3rd rounder looks to be almost a 4th rounder at this point for where it's going to fall in the draft order. The 7th is a wash as we reclaimed Tarvaris Jackson as a free agent after getting a 7th for him in a trade. So, we traded a low first and a very low 3rd for Harvin. I'd still make the trade today. Bowie would have gone higher in the draft if he didn't get kicked off Oklahoma St's team his senior year. He always had the skill set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted January 16, 2014 Like I said, other teams are taking note. Link? Teams? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 570 Posted January 16, 2014 Looks like KJ Wright practiced on Wednesday. First time since he broke his foot about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I take this as a good sign because he is one of the few guys who can match up well with Vernon Davis on a seam route, and he was playing all three downs. Chancellor can too of course. Question for next year: if Michael Bowie has another good game at LG, do we cut bait on Carpenter? The guy did not create ANY separation from McQuistan this season, and McQuistan is a journeyman. Which is why, I think, Cable threw in the towel and went with Bowie. Pete always talks about 'always compete' - well here's a 1st round guy who quite honestly looks like a bust. He's been given enough time to figure things out. Didn't work out at RT. Didn't work out at LG. It's pretty amazing honestly that this team is as good as it is with three years of 1st round picks not matching the hype. 2013: no pick in the Harvin deal 2012: Bruce Irvin...career saved by move to weak-side LB, but dominating? No. 2011: Carpenter Obviously 2010 was a fantastic year, with Okung and Earl. Those were home runs. But the fact that we have really not added much in any of the last three years, and yet continue to flourish, points out how well JS and PC are doing towards the back of the draft. Funny you bring this up. I was just jumping foward in my head last night. The D and ST will be fine. And at this point, I think we can all agree to trust their judgement on the direction they want to go. The O looks like some tweeking is in the works. It's not out of the question we could release Carpenter, McQuistan, and Giacomini, and I still think we cut bait on Rice and Miller also. We can resign Tate and Baldwin. If Bevell is still the coordinator, I think he'd want T. Jackson back too. Maybe another 1 year deal. I don't expect any FA splashes, just taking care of our own. We'd be going into the draft looking at Oline, TE, FB. Maybe a QB and WR should someone fall or catch the offices eye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Groundhog 24 Posted January 16, 2014 Funny you bring this up. I was just jumping foward in my head last night. The D and ST will be fine. And at this point, I think we can all agree to trust their judgement on the direction they want to go. The O looks like some tweeking is in the works. It's not out of the question we could release Carpenter, McQuistan, and Giacomini, and I still think we cut bait on Rice and Miller also. We can resign Tate and Baldwin. If Bevell is still the coordinator, I think he'd want T. Jackson back too. Maybe another 1 year deal. I don't expect any FA splashes, just taking care of our own. We'd be going into the draft looking at Oline, TE, FB. Maybe a QB and WR should someone fall or catch the offices eye. I think we release both Carp and McQuistan, but keep Breno. I've come around on him a little. The penalties are less of an issue than they used to be, although his holding call on the Turbin run last week changed the game. Still, I am liking his moxie. I think the first priority needs to be a Marques Colston type of receiver. A possession guy with height and great hands. When we get down towards the goal line, we can't run a fade play because we no longer have a tall receiver. I'm assuming Rice is gone, he is making way too much money. Second priority to me would be O-line. Apparently this draft is rich in WRs and OL guys, which is a nice bit of happenstance. I would rather keep Miller but if we need some cap dollars to re-sign Michael Bennett or Cliff Avril, or maybe to get a longer-term deal for Sherman, I would part ways with him and move Luke Willson up to a featured role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkfin 32 Posted January 16, 2014 I hate to burst your bubble, but ESPN just had an acoustics expert do a story on Century Link Stadium this Monday. It was designed like an amphitheater. Both sides are built to funnel noise back onto the field. Like two big clamshells. And the "Hawks' Nest" area behind the endzone that seats 3000 people is made with aluminum seats. Which absorbs sound 13 times less than traditional plastic seats. When sound isn't absorbed, it reflects. When those 3000 people are screaming and stomping their feet and using their noise makers, it's creating a tremendous amount of noise. This is scientific fact. Undisputable. Like I said, other teams are taking note. So what exactly did you give me here? It's a clamshell and funnel's noise when the fans bang there seats and use noisemakers? Yeah, I would say when noise is created it must funnel somewhere. The point being - We make major noise. Ok, I'm sure the stadium is built to help. Not saying there are no advantages. But, I'm sure it's not rocket science. And if a team is going to the trouble of building a brand new stadium, then I'm sure they know what to do already. We were not the last stadium built. This sounds like more of a "discredit" to us fans done by ESPN, and show case some great miracle that we came up with in our stadium. That whole garbage about us pumping noise in was also someone discredit to us too. You still need the crazy rowdy and excited fans who make that noise. Anyway, saw your other post. I think you get the fans excitement part of it. I get that there are advantages in a "new stadium". I would still take a dome any day though for trapping that noise within. Probably why N.O. is so much better at home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 16, 2014 Link? Teams? Sorry, they refuse to give me access to their private notes. I've asked them nicely, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 16, 2014 Do some of you fans really think the reason your stadium is loud is because you yell and stomp louder than other people? Hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkfin 32 Posted January 16, 2014 I think we release both Carp and McQuistan, but keep Breno. I've come around on him a little. The penalties are less of an issue than they used to be, although his holding call on the Turbin run last week changed the game. Still, I am liking his moxie. I think the first priority needs to be a Marques Colston type of receiver. A possession guy with height and great hands. When we get down towards the goal line, we can't run a fade play because we no longer have a tall receiver. I'm assuming Rice is gone, he is making way too much money. Second priority to me would be O-line. Apparently this draft is rich in WRs and OL guys, which is a nice bit of happenstance. I would rather keep Miller but if we need some cap dollars to re-sign Michael Bennett or Cliff Avril, or maybe to get a longer-term deal for Sherman, I would part ways with him and move Luke Willson up to a featured role. Kind of early for this still... But, I'm on board with letting S. Rice and Carp go for sure. I really think Tate should be a priority to keep now. I'd like to keep Miller though, but I do see a need for bringing in a great rookie TE. I think WR, Oline, LB, TE are the needs. (I'd bump TE to #1 if Miller is gone) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkfin 32 Posted January 16, 2014 Do some of you fans really think the reason your stadium is loud is because you yell and stomp louder than other people? Hilarious. I'm not sure if your kidding or what? But how then does one get louder then the next? Does the sound just magically appear out of nowhere. Have you even been in our stadium and sat with us. Unlikely. You have no clue dude. If you fold your hands in the feetal position, Yeah, you would be pretty quiet when i'm stomping louder then you when my team crushes yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 570 Posted January 16, 2014 I think we release both Carp and McQuistan, but keep Breno. I've come around on him a little. The penalties are less of an issue than they used to be, although his holding call on the Turbin run last week changed the game. Still, I am liking his moxie. I think the first priority needs to be a Marques Colston type of receiver. A possession guy with height and great hands. When we get down towards the goal line, we can't run a fade play because we no longer have a tall receiver. I'm assuming Rice is gone, he is making way too much money. Second priority to me would be O-line. Apparently this draft is rich in WRs and OL guys, which is a nice bit of happenstance. I would rather keep Miller but if we need some cap dollars to re-sign Michael Bennett or Cliff Avril, or maybe to get a longer-term deal for Sherman, I would part ways with him and move Luke Willson up to a featured role. Could Kearse fill that Colston roll? Also, if I remember correctly. Avril was a 2 year deal. Bennett and Thurmond are going to be the only 2 FA's that mean anything I believe.. I'd be all for a Bennett 3 year deal, and maybe a cap friendly Thurmond 2 year deal and extending Shurman to avoid his status later on. My question on Breno is his money. I think he's a 3 mil guy. That seems to be an awful lotwhen we got a guy like Cable running things. My point being, if we didn't have him, yes keep him. But having Cable running things. I have full confidence he can find someone at a third of the price to do just as good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 16, 2014 I'm not sure if your kidding or what? But how then does one get louder then the next? Does the sound just magically appear out of nowhere. Have you even been in our stadium and sat with us. Unlikely. You have no clue dude. If you fold your hands in the feetal position, Yeah, you would be pretty quiet when i'm stomping louder then you when my team crushes yours. Obviously people yelling and stomping their feet are louder than people sitting motionless and quietly. That's not what he, or anyone else, is saying. Yes, everyone realizes that Seahawk fans are a boisterous group. Loyal, rowdy, and loud. But they don't have magically stronger vocal chords or better shoes for stomping. Plenty of stadiums have crazy fans who scream and carry on. And scoreboard operators that put up graphics saying "Make Some Noise!!!" Yet none of them can reach the decibel levels that the seattle fans make. Kansas City and New Orleans fans come close. The acoustics of their stadium is what puts them over the top. If you put those crazy Seahawk fans in an open stadium without decks that totally overhang the crowds and all plastic seats, and those same fans wouldn't come close to touching their decibel record. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 570 Posted January 16, 2014 Obviously people yelling and stomping their feet are louder than people sitting motionless and quietly. That's not what he, or anyone else, is saying. Yes, everyone realizes that Seahawk fans are a boisterous group. Loyal, rowdy, and loud. But they don't have magically stronger vocal chords or better shoes for stomping. Plenty of stadiums have crazy fans who scream and carry on. And scoreboard operators that put up graphics saying "Make Some Noise!!!" Yet none of them can reach the decibel levels that the seattle fans make. Kansas City and New Orleans fans come close. The acoustics of their stadium is what puts them over the top. If you put those crazy Seahawk fans in an open stadium without decks that totally overhang the crowds and all plastic seats, and those same fans wouldn't come close to touching their decibel record. If we had this team in the Kingdome. That place would've crumbled. The faithful made some pretty serious noise for only a handful of good teams. Outside of Kansas City, I have yet to see 1 fan base as good as ours. College maybe, but not in the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkfin 32 Posted January 16, 2014 YEP - THIS Denver rocked it pretty loud against SD in that playoff game though. And KC did break our record until we over took it back. What's Dallas reason for not being #1 with there brand new state of the art stadium? KC fans are of a similar beast to us. They want to win bad and have not had the success of the NE's of the world. That's why they rocked it this year, cause there team was good and had a real shot. But, your going to think what you think so it's senseless to keep hashing it out. We rock it the entire game. Everybody does. Not just a few thousand rowdy fans. The entire Hawk fan base does. You almost feel embarrassed to not yell if your a quiet person in general. If you have not been to our stadium you just wouldn't know, so until you honestly have I won't listen too your views. I can't even hear the person next to me it's so loud from fans screaming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted January 16, 2014 If we had this team in the Kingdome. That place would've crumbled. The faithful made some pretty serious noise for only a handful of good teams. Outside of Kansas City, I have yet to see 1 fan base as good as ours. College maybe, but not in the NFL. That's just silly. I bet the fanbases of at least a dozen teams would make this same claim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 570 Posted January 16, 2014 That's just silly. I bet the fanbases of at least a dozen teams would make this same claim. I think you should do a little research on fan support thoughout the NFL. If you want to talk about throwing snowballs at santa clause or booing nfl drafts, those are extra ciricular activities. If your looking at pure fan bases, Seattle is clearly #1 followed by a close second in K.C. for the last 30 years. Don't instigate just to be on the other side of a subject. That's the silly part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 16, 2014 That's just silly. I bet the fanbases of at least a dozen teams would make this same claim. The troubling trendy of many owners and the NFL in general is creation of the family friendly faggity fans that will behave themselves, banning all tailgaiting, and selling all the best seats in the stadium to corporate sales people who want to entertain clients and hock their wares instead of making fun of the other team's QB's wife who just had a miscarriage. So then you get the milquetoast wishy washy distracted fans that populate many stadiums instead of the blood thirsty drunken savages that used to be the norm. It's what the UFC is building, and what the NFL is dismantling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites