LOL @ "contact with the neck of the QB"

[dreen626 17]

Football is becoming a JOKE these days.

 

BS call may decide a game, late in the 4th qtr.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

The fix is in dude. That was a legal hit and they're handing this game to the Saints or trying to.

[Reality 3,121]

Terrible call, listening to the idiots announcers is just making it worse.

 

What a fukin joke.

[heffley 12]

I'm trying to decide my favorite AFL team I think I'll go hometown Columbus Destroyers... Do they have AFL FF? Lol the NFL is a joke.

[phillybear 366]

I hate to say it, but it's a screw job. The 49ers got worked.

[highsider5 36]

what was the penalty? I saw the replay but missed how it was construed as a penalty... seemed like a great play by SF and they got fawked on the call.

 

was that the call, the thread title?!?! is that an actual rule or did they make it up..

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Terrible call, listening to the idiots announcers is just making it worse.

 

What a fukin joke.

 

Is that Joe Buck saying it was the right call? What a focking dbag, pantywaste.

 

Isn't having a set of balls a pre-requisite for being an NFL announcer?

[jerryskids 6,836]

I've got Hartley and as a Cards fan I'd be happy if the Niners lose so... great call.

[dreen626 17]

what was the penalty? I saw the replay but missed how it was construed as a penalty... seemed like a great play by SF and they got fawked on the call.

 

was that the call, the thread title?!?! is that an actual rule or did they make it up..

 

 

yes...thats what the ref said.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

what was the penalty? I saw the replay but missed how it was construed as a penalty... seemed like a great play by SF and they got fawked on the call.

 

was that the call, the thread title?!?! is that an actual rule or did they make it up..

 

Unnecessary roughness; going at the QB's neck. Made up call for a made up win.

[phillybear 366]

And now the Saints got worked on a non safety call on intentional grounding. Brutal game.

[swirvenirvin 25]

Sean Payton get's it. Great use of timeouts. Hardly see a coach do this. Idiots like Trestman and what he did at the of the game is mind blowing

[highsider5 36]

so.. illegal contact to the neck???? that's extremely ghey and made up

 

 

the intentional grounding was very close, I thought there would be a little more review to at least see if he was outside the tackles

[p00h 85]

his mouth was bleeding from that hit. By definition, I believe it was a personal foul. What you might think of the rules is irrelevant. They did sound like asses with the hit above the neck and what not, but it was a personal foul...

[Reality 3,121]

This game should be over, what an absolute joke.

[murf74 461]

Harbaugh wish you had Smith yet?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

To be clear, he hit Brees around the chest with momentum, causing his arm to slide up to Brees' neck. It was incidental and AFTER the ball was fumbled.

 

One of the worst calls of the year and that's saying A LOT.

[BigMilk 40]

Top 5 worst call. Laughable. The league continues to embarrass itself.

[highsider5 36]

oh boy.. saints win, refs get the assist.. the league will not last unless crap like this is fixed somehow, there needs to be a better way for the refs to not screw up, maybe they should have a three man reality check crew up in a luxury box with big screens and high def like the rest of us... seems to me if I can see something clearly from 15ft away, a professional crew should be able to do a way better job with way more expensive looks.

[Sho Nuff 720]

By the rule, it was the right call.

 

And it wasnt grounding in the endzone.

phillybear all sorts of wrong in here.

[Sho Nuff 720]

And people quit with the nfl wont last hyperbole. its more popular than its ever been...just printing money right now.

Calls like that are not stopping this machine.

[Saint Elistan 106]

http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/DrewBreesNeckSuperSloMo.gif

 

Complete ineptitude. Looks to me like the "foul" came when Brooks tried to coddle Brees on the way down.

 

The neck growth is hilarious though.

 

Should have been 49ers ball. Not entirely sure the Niners could have mustered running out the clock, but yeah...appears to be a game-changing blown call.

[p00h 85]

And people quit with the nfl wont last hyperbole. its more popular than its ever been...just printing money right now.

Calls like that are not stopping this machine.

Exactly. A thousand of those calls will not deter a 1000 fans. That call will be forgotten by the time the games kick off next week. I do believe the rules are diluting the game, but we all will keep watching, spending money, rooting for out teams...

[murf74 461]

It was a shot to the chest. Bree's is protected

[phillybear 366]

By the rule, it was the right call.

 

And it wasnt grounding in the endzone.

phillybear all sorts of wrong in here.

 

Did the pass go past the line of scrimmage? I mean, with a call so critical, there wasn't a plethora of replays.

 

And the refs have some leeway with the intentional grounding call, even if the QB is outside the tackle box and tosses it past the line of scrimmage. By the by, I recall last year, when Tom Brady got flagged for intentional grounding when he was in the red zone at Seattle and threw it right up the middle out of the endzone. Since when do you see a QB flagged for that when he throws it out the end zone? That particular call is dubious. In the Seahawks game today, they called a pass interference on a pass about 20 yards uncatchable by a Minnesota WR. The refs can do whatever the fock they want to do.

[Sho Nuff 720]

yes...it did

and no...he was not in the endzone when he threw it anyway.

[rallo 136]

By the rule, it was the right call.

 

And it wasnt grounding in the endzone.

phillybear all sorts of wrong in here.

 

if contact had been initiated to the neck I would agree with you... on the slow-mo instant replay it would appear that the contact was with the chest and shoulder pad of brees... that said, I don't think I would have been able to make that call in real time.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

if contact had been initiated to the neck I would agree with you... on the slow-mo instant replay it would appear that the contact was with the chest and shoulder pad of brees... that said, I don't think I would have been able to make that call in real time.

 

Refs don't see plays in slow-mo replay.

As you said...they saw his head snap sideways and an arm up by a neck.

 

I hate the rule...it sucks...but by the letter of the rule, it was the call that was going to be made.

Especially in the dome with Brees taking that hit.

[giraldi02 474]

Straight from the NFL Rulebook Link provided

 

UNNECESSARY ACTS AGAINST PASSER

(2)

A rushing defender is prohibited from committing such intimidating and punishing acts as “stuffing” a

passer into the ground or unnecessarily wrestling or driving him down after the passer has thrown the ball, even if the rusher makes his initial contact with the passer within the one-step limitation provided for in (1) above. When tackling a passer who is in a defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down and land on top of him with all or most of the defender’s weight. Instead, the defensive player must strive to wrap up or cradle the passer with the defensive player’s arms

.

HITS TO PASSER’S HEAD AND USE OF HELMET AND FACEMASK

(3)

In covering the passer position, Referees will be particularly alert to fouls in which defenders impermissibly use the helmet and/or facemask to hit he passer, or use hands, arms, or other parts of

the body to hit the passer forcibly in the head or neck area (see also the other unnecessary-roughness rules covering these subjects). A defensive player must not use his helmet against a passer who is in a defenseless posture for example, (a) forcibly hitting the passer’s head or neck area with the helmet or facemask, regardless of whether the defensive player

also uses his arms to tackle the passer by encircling or grasping him, or ( lowering the head and making forcible contact with the top/crown or

forehead/”hairline” parts of the helmet against any part of the passer’s body.

 

[Reality 3,121]

It was a bad call, Brooks hit Brees in the chest. The referee falsely reacted to the movement of his head. It looked bad but simply wasn't illegal. if you can't hit the QB in the chest you basically can't hit him at all.

[highsider5 36]

yeah thing is, the hit looked like what is described in the rules, but it wasn't... that is the bad part of the call, somehow the refs need a chance to see it in super slo-mo from 11ty angles, just like they do for every replay... heck, the booth already reviews anything under 2:00 anyways, the remedy is to simply let them speak on the matter and fix a screw up when one comes up... they could have cleared up that sack and the near safety easily

 

even I have enough DVR controls to look at things twice, they should have no problem here.

[Showboat 256]

It was a bad call, Brooks hit Brees in the chest. The referee falsely reacted to the movement of his head. It looked bad but simply wasn't illegal. if you can't hit the QB in the chest you basically can't hit him at all.

We have a winner. In the Skins-Eagles game RGIII got a call when he was hit while going out of bounds. It's total BS because a little while later RGIII was running toward the sidelines and all the defenders let up - instead of stepping out, he turned it up field for an extra 4-5 yards before his natural momentum took him out of bounds.

[MrDooDooMan 3]

Refs owed us one from the patriots game. Call was for sure questionable but it happens.

[Love My Lions 1]

If Ndamukong Suh made that same hit, most of you would be calling it dirty and demanding he be tossed for the rest of the season.

[Captain Shortbus 0]

objective, former head of officials:

 

 

Mike Pereira: "Clearly a foul in New Orleans...that was a blow to the neck"

 

The reality is that even if the play was not a called personal foul, the Niners would have had the ball on their own 40 with 3:12 left. Saints would have had 3 time outs and the 2 minute warning. The Saints gave up 190 total yards. The Niner offense is freaking inept...do you honestly think the 49ers were somehow going to transform into a team that could run out the clock? They had negative 8 yards combined on their last two drives. Saints were going to win that game regardless of that call.

[highsider5 36]

objective, former head of officials:

 

 

Mike Pereira: "Clearly a foul in New Orleans...that was a blow to the neck"

 

The reality is that even if the play was not a called personal foul, the Niners would have had the ball on their own 40 with 3:12 left. Saints would have had 3 time outs and the 2 minute warning. The Saints gave up 190 total yards. The Niner offense is freaking inept...do you honestly think the 49ers were somehow going to transform into a team that could run out the clock? They had negative 8 yards combined on their last two drives. Saints were going to win that game regardless of that call.

no, the only 'clearly' here is... mike clearly didn't see the play, the replay, the other replay, the GIF, and must have had his eyes closed... sure it was a hard hit, but I thought we were talking about national league football, not shipping gifts from pottery barn

 

if this needs to be dissected, then the initial contact was arm to chest/shoulder, and not a blow to the neck and barely close, watch the replay yourself, the reason his neck was all stretched out like that is because he WASN'T hit in the neck... from a physics standpoint, you can't achieve that look by accelerating the neck, you have to impart force away from the mass to cause that... I.E. a blow to the chest... ugh... whatever... the only thing worse than the skirt pulling penalty is now the appearance of skirt pulling, even if the skirt wasn't actually pulled... I swear, its like the league is being run by a woman.

[Captain Shortbus 0]

highsider - you don't understand the rule. Period. It's like a safety who tatoos a guy across the middle...hits him in the chest first but the force/angle lead to the helmets hitting. That's a penalty, too. It's just the rule. The fact that Brooks hit him first in the chest does not mean that the hit didn't result in a blow to the neck. It did. No one disputes that. Rather, you simply believe because the hit started in the chest that it negates a penalty. Sadly, it does not.

 

I personally disagree with the rule. You do, too. But, it doesn't mean that hit was not a violation of the rule. It was.

[highsider5 36]

highsider - you don't understand the rule. Period. It's like a safety who tatoos a guy across the middle...hits him in the chest first but the force/angle lead to the helmets hitting. That's a penalty, too. It's just the rule. The fact that Brooks hit him first in the chest does not mean that the hit didn't result in a blow to the neck. It did. No one disputes that. Rather, you simply believe because the hit started in the chest that it negates a penalty. Sadly, it does not.

 

I personally disagree with the rule. You do, too. But, it doesn't mean that hit was not a violation of the rule. It was.

 

umm no, I get it and get the whole deal.. I don't agree with it and offer that visual evidence agrees with me. the slow motion clarity of the SF arm hitting the QB shoulder pads is ridiculously clear to me, so I'll stand by my opinion. you don't have to agree or care... so go period that.

 

the concept of the indefensible hit via a safety doesn't remotely apply here either.. what, quarterbacks are now defenseless and should assume that they can't be hit or sacked or touched in case they get a boo-boo??? how about the QB gets a red penny to wear like in practice, so he is clearly off limits to touching.

 

the next step will be to eliminate the Superbowl because there is only one winner, and instead of playoffs and championships, we will just have every team attent a pizza party where they can play skee ball, get free pizza if they arrive in their jersey, and pickup a medal and the trophy for playing hard all year.... works for AYSO...

[Captain Shortbus 0]

Does his arm his Brees' neck at any point in the tackle? (hint: we both know the answer is yes) If so, it's a penalty. Again, you are pissed at the rule...not the application.

[snatchit 108]

Ya that was BS, Was it gay ass Aikman that was saying it was the right call ?