Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2014 # of college graduates each year in Texas > 3x the number of college graduates each year n Minnysota. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted January 28, 2014 http://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/new-state-state-college-attainment-numbers-show-progress-toward-2020-goal SO, having a lot of college graduates indicates better school systems? Cool. Texas consistantly ranks #3 nationally in the number of college graduates each year. Texas ranks #3 in total graduates. They rank somewhere around 40 by overall percentage. The states with a lower percentage? Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas, New Mexico, Nevada, Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia.....you know, the states with really bad school systems. Rank State % H.S. Graduate 50. Texas. 79.9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted January 28, 2014 # of college graduates each year in Texas > 3x the number of college graduates each year n Minnysota. Not per capita, dummy. Can't believe you're touting something that is actually really embarrassing. Wait......yeah, I can. Rank State % H.S. Graduate 50. Texas. 79.9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2014 http://eddataexpress.ed.gov/state-report.cfm/tab/sd/state/MN/ Not sure where you are getting your hs grad rate since you give no link. I have one that shows Tx rate for 2011-2012 to be 88% Minny's for the same period is 78%. Oops! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,961 Posted January 28, 2014 bunny bastards, west virginia, new mexico, alaska and south dakota are some of the whitest states in the union. yet, you cannot blame their low rankings on blacks. how can you make the ridiculous comment that children in black schools in new orleans are demoted 2 grades when they enter atlanta schools. is there even a city blacker than atlanta??? the kids went from a black city to another black city. duh!! also, just because a lot of blacks live in these southern states does not mean that they are the reason for the failures of the school system. alabama is ranked low. yes, there are a lot of blacks that live there but 70% of the population is white. yes, poor black crime ridden neighborhoods are a damn horror. i'm a product of one. that does not mean that all black in these neighborhoods are dumb, are prone to crime and are naturally bound toward single parenthood or filling the jails. there are good and bad people in every economic strata of society. all white states aren't the best and all rich states aren't the best. try, try, try, please, not to be racist. i actually voted for you as geek of the year. you're making me regret that choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2014 Not per capita, dummy. Can't believe you're touting something that is actually really embarrassing. : I'm touting the criteria you laid out......"number of college graduates". Sorry you didn't like the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,961 Posted January 28, 2014 giving money to poor schools isn't the answer. there is so much corruption that the money isn't really going to the students. newark, nj schools get tons of money. i have no idea where the money went. certainly not going to things like computers or books or food or air conditioning. i think the money went to the mob. seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted January 28, 2014 http://eddataexpress.ed.gov/state-report.cfm/tab/sd/state/MN/ Not sure where you are getting your hs grad rate since you give no link. I have one that shows Tx rate for 2011-2012 to be 88% Minny's for the same period is 78%. Oops! Mine is from the wiki page I linked earlier.....percentage of the population with a HS diploma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2014 Mine is from the wiki page I linked earlier.....percentage of the population with a HS diploma. So once again you bring a number that doesn't indicate anything about the Texas education system. Newsflash: There are a lot of folks in Tx here illegally from Mexico. You number would include them. Minny doesn't have that issue. Silly me, I used graduation rates gathered br the Dept. Of Education. Texas >>>>>>> Minnysota. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted January 28, 2014 I'm touting the criteria you laid out......"number of college graduates". Sorry you didn't like the answer. Semantics. You didn't like any answer given as to why certain states' schools weren't making the grade. I'm not trying to prove anything, just showing that there is a correlation between the states with poor school systems, median income, and college graduates. For whatever reason you wanted to steer the discussion to private vs. public.....then to overall college attainment.....and in the midst wanted to take jabs about folks having difficulty with nuance. I assume you have nothing constructive to add to any of this.....and we all know why. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 28, 2014 giving money to poor schools isn't the answer. there is so much corruption that the money isn't really going to the students. newark, nj schools get tons of money. i have no idea where the money went. certainly not going to things like computers or books or food or air conditioning. i think the money went to the mob. seriously. union sleezebags hth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted January 28, 2014 So once again you bring a number that doesn't indicate anything about the Texas education system. Newsflash: There are a lot of folks in Tx here illegally from Mexico. You number would include them. Minny doesn't have that issue. Silly me, I used graduation rates gathered br the Dept. Of Education. Texas >>>>>>> Minnysota. Nobody cares about Texas. You're the one who brought it up. The question has been.....why do schools in Alabama, Mississippi, West Virgina suck while schools in New England don't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2014 Nobody cares about Texas. You're the one who brought it up. Nope. You brought up Texas with your misleading number from Wiki. I simply corrected your misinformation. I said nothing about Texas prior to you bringing it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2014 Semantics. : Nope. Nothing to do with semantics. Words mean things. I guess they didn't cover that in your Indiana education. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted January 28, 2014 Rank State % H.S. Graduate 50. Texas. 79.9 No wonder RP loves Texass so much--it's the only state where he's considered "smart" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,596 Posted January 28, 2014 bunny bastards, west virginia, new mexico, alaska and south dakota are some of the whitest states in the union. yet, you cannot blame their low rankings on blacks. how can you make the ridiculous comment that children in black schools in new orleans are demoted 2 grades when they enter atlanta schools. is there even a city blacker than atlanta??? the kids went from a black city to another black city. duh!! also, just because a lot of blacks live in these southern states does not mean that they are the reason for the failures of the school system. alabama is ranked low. yes, there are a lot of blacks that live there but 70% of the population is white. yes, poor black crime ridden neighborhoods are a damn horror. i'm a product of one. that does not mean that all black in these neighborhoods are dumb, are prone to crime and are naturally bound toward single parenthood or filling the jails. there are good and bad people in every economic strata of society. all white states aren't the best and all rich states aren't the best. try, try, try, please, not to be racist. i actually voted for you as geek of the year. you're making me regret that choice. The schools in Orleans parish are the worst I'm the country Peenie. That's a fact. I have black friends that evacuated from Nee Orleans to Atlanta. When they enrolled their kids in Atlanta public schools. Both if their kids had to drop down two grades. They were that far behind the kids in Atlanta schools. They had no idea their kids were that far behind. They eventually moved one grade up but they are still behind because of how bad New Orleans schools taught them. I am not a racists Peenie. I may at times try and stoke the fire, but a racists I am not. Would a racists move into an all black neighborhood? Work in a mostly black neighborhood when he didn't have to? Volunteer in his community to help the less fortunate? The older ladies on my block called me their white knight for helping them when no one else would. I've told the story about my dad being an MP in the Army during segregation. He protected the four black kids who went Alabama University. His job was to make sure they got to class and back in bed every night safe and sound. For that, he was spit on and called a N-lover and spit on. Every day! He taught me a lot. The most important thing was not to judge people by the color of their skin. Thanks dad. I teach my daughter the same. And she respects others because it. She's volunteering in the city to help those who can't help themselves. Worms likes to call me a racists. He thinks it's intimidating and will shame me into not having an opinion that's not PC and in line with the stud quo. I've earned my right to have an opinion and do. He on the other hand has no idea what he's talking about as he's been ffed a line of sh!t and lives in is ivory castle. Thanks for the vote Peenie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,596 Posted January 28, 2014 I hate smart phones! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted January 28, 2014 Bunny's the first guy you point to when people suggest there's no more racism in America. He doesn't even know he's a racist! Honestly bunny, I'm not trying to insult you. It's not your fault, this is really how people from the South think. Again it really all does seem to go back to slavery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted January 28, 2014 But I do live in an ivory tower, you got me there. Hasn't always been that way but I can't deny my present circumstances Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted January 28, 2014 No wonder RP loves Texass so much--it's the only state where he's considered "smart" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted January 28, 2014 Nope. You brought up Texas with your misleading number from Wiki. I simply corrected your misinformation. It wasn't misinformation. It was the percentage of the population with a HS diploma. You provided the graduation rate. Not surprised you don't understand the distinction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2014 No wonder RP loves Texass so much--it's the only state where he's considered "smart" No need for me to rely on BS numbers some clown pulled from Wiki to fool dumbasses like you to confirm I'm smart. I display my superior intelligence here on a daily basis. And for sh!ts and giggles, I often go to a low rent FFB messageboard and find some idiot who claims to be a lawyer, and then biotchslap him around on legal issues. It isn't very challenging, but it fills a few minutes of the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2014 It wasn't misinformation. It was the percentage of the population with a HS diploma. You provided the graduation rate. Not surprised you don't understand the distinction. When the discussion is about the education system of a state, that stat is misleading unless you break down how many people in the state without a HS diploma went thru that system, and how many came from outside the state. The graduation rate sheds more light on the subject than your Wiki number. Not surprised you don't understand the distinction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,596 Posted January 28, 2014 Bunny's the first guy you point to when people suggest there's no more racism in America. He doesn't even know he's a racist! Honestly bunny, I'm not trying to insult you. It's not your fault, this is really how people from the South think. Again it really all does seem to go back to slavery OK. I'll play. Does a racist do any of the things I mentioned above? Fawk no. A racists sits back and blames their problems on others. A racist HATES people not like them. A racist doesn't allow their children to play with kids not like theirs. A racists judges others by the color of their skin, not the content of their charcter. I am none of the above. So please tell me how I am a racists? Tomorrow when I'm sitting at the bar with my favorite bartender Michelle (36d) who is marrying a black guy this summer and I am good friends with, I am going to let her respond to your answer. Please go all out. I'm counting on you buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2014 OK. I'll play. Does a racist do any of the things I mentioned above? Fawk no. A racists sits back and blames their problems on others. A racist HATES people not like them. A racist doesn't allow their children to play with kids not like theirs. A racists judges others by the color of their skin, not the content of their charcter. I am none of the above. So please tell me how I am a racists? Tomorrow when I'm sitting at the bar with my favorite bartender Michelle (36d) who is marrying a black guy this summer and I am good friends with, I am going to let her respond to your answer. Please go all out. I'm counting on you buddy. Worms is a white version of Al Sharpton.........only dumber. You would be the last person here I would consider a racist. You are correct when you say laying out facts makes race baiters like Worms scream "RACIST!!!" cuz they want to stick their head in the sand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted January 28, 2014 OK. I'll play. Does a racist do any of the things I mentioned above? Fawk no. A racists sits back and blames their problems on others. A racist HATES people not like them. A racist doesn't allow their children to play with kids not like theirs. A racists judges others by the color of their skin, not the content of their charcter. I am none of the above. So please tell me how I am a racists? Tomorrow when I'm sitting at the bar with my favorite bartender Michelle (36d) who is marrying a black guy this summer and I am good friends with, I am going to let her respond to your answer. Please go all out. I'm counting on you buddy. You're referring to overt racism and that, fortunately, is not found very often anymore, even in the South. I do not think you are an overt racist and never meant to suggest that. What is racist is your view that blacks are somehow predisposed to failing in an education system. That you think because an area is black, it must have a sh!tty education system. It ain't about black or white. It's about economics, it's about culture (which can be an issue across all races), it's about proper parenting. You can't use "blacks" as a shorthand for people who fail at these things--that's racist! I have a hard time believing you really do have close black friends that have no problem with you talking this way. Try to look into it a little more next time. Is it possible that these folks are made quite uncomfortable when you suggest their entire race is inferior in certain ways? Is it possible they don't really say anything to you because they don't want to get into a knock-down-drag-out fight by calling you out as a bigot? No kidding, anywhere I've ever lived you would be vilified for saying the sort of off-hand comments on race you make here. But I've never lived in the South. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 29, 2014 ass clowns like worms are the problem with race in this country its a tip ass wad, blacks can't stand wind bags like you, they don't need or want some doofus like pathetically attempting to appear you have heir backs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted January 29, 2014 I can see I'm getting a little too close to some deep-seated insecurities here. Bigots hate being called bigots...but unfortunately they don't quite hate it enough to actually examine their views and change. I'm done here, I've said my bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 29, 2014 I think Al Sharpton said something very similar when the Tawana Brawley farce blew up in his face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,596 Posted January 29, 2014 You're referring to overt racism and that, fortunately, is not found very often anymore, even in the South. I do not think you are an overt racist and never meant to suggest that. What is racist is your view that blacks are somehow predisposed to failing in an education system. That you think because an area is black, it must have a sh!tty education system. It ain't about black or white. It's about economics, it's about culture (which can be an issue across all races), it's about proper parenting. You can't use "blacks" as a shorthand for people who fail at these things--that's racist! I have a hard time believing you really do have close black friends that have no problem with you talking this way. Try to look into it a little more next time. Is it possible that these folks are made quite uncomfortable when you suggest their entire race is inferior in certain ways? Is it possible they don't really say anything to you because they don't want to get into a knock-down-drag-out fight by calling you out as a bigot? No kidding, anywhere I've ever lived you would be vilified for saying the sort of off-hand comments on race you make here. But I've never lived in the South. I never once said "blacks are predisposed to failing" because they live in a black area. I said New Orleans public schools are bad. I know this because I am involved in my own community and see it first hand. I never once called out any other city. Only mine. And if you look back, I blamed parents as the key factor in the failures of the schools here. Try again. I just got a text from a friend. "What's up Bunny? This snow is crazy. This is the whitest the cities been in awhile. Stuck at the fire house till tomorrow. I'm ready for that moonshine you bought us but will wait to open it tomorrow at the bar. Keep safe brother." Is that racists? The snow comment? Would I be vilified in your circle jerk for saying it? If so, that was Jared that sent it. My brother who's a brother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,881 Posted January 29, 2014 ass clowns like worms are the problem with race in this country its a tip ass wad, blacks can't stand wind bags like you, they don't need or want some doofus like pathetically attempting to appear you have heir backs I bet they love having you as a spokesman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted January 29, 2014 ass clowns like worms are the problem with race in this country its a tip ass wad, blacks can't stand wind bags like you, they don't need or want some doofus like pathetically attempting to appear you have heir backs They love guys like Worms. They love to stab them, rob them and cuckold them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted January 29, 2014 When the discussion is about the education system of a state, that stat is misleading unless you break down how many people in the state without a HS diploma went thru that system, and how many came from outside the state. The graduation rate sheds more light on the subject than your Wiki number. Not surprised you don't understand the distinction. Never talked about the Texas education system. Simply quoted the stat because.....well, most of us know why. Maybe you can figure it out. Titans wanted to show a correlation between race and education. I showed median income. You balked at that because differences in cost of living....though you missed the point. Massachusetts simply doesn't have the level of poverty that Alabama does. I linked to a list of the states with the highest percentage of college graduates....and you wanted to know if they went to private or public high schools. I believe there are factors which impact brain development, which manifest themselves through education. If someone can show how race impacts brain development then that'd be a good discussion. Maybe you can show that? Maybe you'll just parse through this without actually addressing the topic. Maybe you are incapable of having any kind of real discussion on here.....and we know why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 29, 2014 Never talked about the Texas education system. Simply quoted the stat because.....well, most of us know why. Maybe you can figure it out. I showed median income. You balked at that because differences in cost of living....though you missed the point. Massachusetts simply doesn't have the level of poverty that Alabama does. I linked to a list of the states with the highest percentage of college graduates....and you wanted to know if they went to private or public high schools. You were the first to bring up anything related to the Tx education system, and then claimed I brought it up. Raw median income figures mean nothing if cost of living isn't factored in. Funny you still can't grasp that. You brought up the % of college grads as a way of showing the public education system in Mass is superior. Not knowing how many of those grads went through the Mass. public education system vs how many went through private schools means that number is as useful as your median income figures. For example, if 90% of the grads went to private high schools is doesn't say much for the public school system. See, you are pulling numbers out of your wiki ass and don't know what they mean. Must be that inferior Indiana education. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,783 Posted January 29, 2014 It ain't about black or white. It's about economics, it's about culture (which can be an issue across all races), it's about proper parenting. It ain't about black and white, except that it is. Brilliant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted January 29, 2014 You were the first to bring up anything related to the Tx education system, and then claimed I brought it up. Raw median income figures mean nothing if cost of living isn't factored in. Funny you still can't grasp that. You brought up the % of college grads as a way of showing the public education system in Mass is superior. Not knowing how many of those grads went through the Mass. public education system vs how many went through private schools means that number is as useful as your median income figures. For example, if 90% of the grads went to private high schools is doesn't say much for the public school system. See, you are pulling numbers out of your wiki ass and don't know what they mean. Must be that inferior Indiana education. Never said anything about the Texas education system. Quoted a stat that indicated there are 20.1% of Texans without a HS diploma. It was a dig at you for being dumb. Get it? Probably not. And you still don't get the % numbers. A certain percentage of the Minnesota population has a degree. It's not the same as the number of people going through the Minnesota system getting a degree. I have a degree from Indiana and live in Minnesota....so I am part of the population that has a degree. It has no bearing on the Minnesota system retroactively. It will when my sons go through the system. I explained why I think it is important to have educated parents in the home as there probably is a greater exposure to enrichment. That is why I linked those numbers and tried to tie it to education. Because...as others have pointed out....education takes place as much at home as it does at school. And when your parents are educated and have good stable jobs, kids might perform better in school. You don't get any of this because you're a twenty point one percenter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 29, 2014 Good to see you finally admit your % example has nothing to do with a state's education system. Glad I could educate you on that. Took a while due to how slow-witted you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted January 29, 2014 Good to see you finally admit your % example has nothing to do with a state's education system. Glad I could educate you on that. Took a while due to how slow-witted you are. Actually, the more educated people living in the state, the better that state tends to perform in education. There seems to be a correlation there. So you're wrong to say it has nothing to do with it. You're not making any sense in this thread. Most 20.1 percenters probably wouldn't. I said the same stuff in post #44. You missed it because you were talking about Texas. Bet you miss a lot of stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 29, 2014 You should search Wiki for the avg rainfall of each state and tell us how it influences education levels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted January 29, 2014 She found that the hippocampal region, which is important in learning and memory function, had a larger volume for subjects who were raised by parents with higher incomes. For education, the volume of a separate region, the amygdala that is involved in stress processing, showed the opposite effect. The higher the parental education level, the smaller the volume. “Certainly, income or education alone are not what causes the differences. Rather, it’s likely it the things that income and education are associated with have something to do with it. We know that providing children with cognitive stimulation and emotional warmth are important: talking to children, bringing them to the library, being warm and nurturing. You can provide cognitive stimulation in the absence of high income.” That said, the economic trap many families are in can inhibit such quality time. And, in fact, Noble’s working hypothesis is that parental stress is a crucial player in a child’s brain development. Other studies have shown that animals and humans who endure stress can have larger amygdala. One study Noble referenced followed children adopted from an orphanage abroad and found that the longer the child had spent in the orphanage, the larger his or her amygdala. Noble pointed out that her own study included a relatively small sample size, so she hopes the findings will encourage more examination in this area. In the meantime, I asked her what the results might mean for public policy. She said, “At a minimum, we want to encourage policies that would promote healthy child development by optimizing exposure to cognitive stimulation and emotional warmth.” “One possibility is that by promoting programs that would reduce poverty and increase parents’ educational opportunities, we might in turn promote childhood development.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-parenting/post/does-a-parents-education-and-income-affect-how-a-childs-brain-develops/2012/10/17/8715e348-187c-11e2-a55c-39408fbe6a4b_blog.html Took me like 20.1 seconds to find this article. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
