KSB2424 3,173 Posted April 27, 2015 Only a Crackboys fan would say it's okay for a guy to hit a woman if she was coked up or didn't get beaten up enough. Stay classy, Dall-Ass. Who said that? You don't think it's wholly possible this woman who was drunk and geeked out wasn't going apeshit on this dude and he was yes holding her down, push her away, etc. And her story is way over the top hyperbole meant at either getting back at a him or trying to get a pay day after he broke up with her? I think that's just as probable as him deciding he'll beat the crap out of an ex GF in the manner she stated. Luckily for all the justice system weeds all of that out for the most part. Unluckily Roger flips coins. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted April 27, 2015 Only a Crackboys fan would say it's okay for a guy to hit a woman if she was coked up or didn't get beaten up enough. Stay classy, Dall-Ass. In other words, Hardy fits right in on their roster with the rest of the low character asses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,430 Posted April 27, 2015 Who said that? You don't think it's wholly possible this woman who was drunk and geeked out wasn't going apeshit on this dude and he was yes holding her down, push her away, etc. And her story is way over the top hyperbole meant at either getting back at a him or trying to get a pay day after he broke up with her? I think that's just as probable as him deciding he'll beat the crap out of an ex GF in the manner she stated. Luckily for all the justice system weeds all of that out for the most part. Unluckily Roger flips coins. Yeah, the Justice system is infallible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 27, 2015 Who said that? You don't think it's wholly possible this woman who was drunk and geeked out wasn't going apeshit on this dude and he was yes holding her down, push her away, etc. And her story is way over the top hyperbole meant at either getting back at a him or trying to get a pay day after he broke up with her? I think that's just as probable as him deciding he'll beat the crap out of an ex GF in the manner she stated. Luckily for all the justice system weeds all of that out for the most part. Unluckily Roger flips coins. I think its highly unlikely. I think its much more probable that he did get pissed and hit and hold her down forcefully enough to leave marks. As did a judge who convicted him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,430 Posted April 27, 2015 I think its highly unlikely. I think its much more probable that he did get pissed and hit and hold her down forcefully enough to leave marks. As did a judge who convicted him. Cmon now, a couple of local sports reporters said it was "shocking" he was convicted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,430 Posted April 28, 2015 Again, we don't' know - neither do you. It's called speculation, and that's all you have. I already pointed out that maybe he settled to avoid gun charges or drug charges. Maybe he settled to avoid a costly trial - who knows. There was so much damaging evidence, so much violence proven in the pics that the DA decided not to pursue Hardy on his own? What a horrible, horrible failure then on the DA to executed the job of the office. With such damaging, non deniable picture proof of an attack he chose to let a violent offender walk. Wow. Because without the accuser cooperating, all you have are pictures, and nobody but Hardy to say how they happened. Not a horrible failure by the DA, he in no way could win a case like that nothing he could do. Also there is the issue of the 6th amendment and the right to face an accuser, though there are work-arounds with an uncooperative witness, it's a huge uphill battle in a case like this "Wow" give me a break, this happens in our justice system, bad people get to go free. Hardy's lucky to have the privilege of getting to come back to the NFL at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted April 28, 2015 Mike Honcho, on 28 Apr 2015 - 09:14 AM, said: Because without the accuser cooperating, all you have are pictures, and nobody but Hardy to say how they happened. Not a horrible failure by the DA, he in no way could win a case like that nothing he could do. "Wow" give me a break, this happens in our justice system, bad people get to go free. Hardy's lucky to have the privilege of getting to come back to the NFL at all. Still seems weak. There were police officers on the scene, investigators in the process and no telling what else to verify the validity of any pictures. Like I said, any small woman beat to hell like alleged is going to look like hell - be pretty obvious. It's possible the bad "guy" here said the rich football player (with no history of abuse) hit me, got paid and is living and laughing it up all the way to the bank... As noted sports columnist (and attorney) Mike Florio said, even after the settlement N. Holder could of sued Hardy in Civil court - she chose not to, why? Why would a woman who was violently and viciously beat and disrespected not get what she could have coming to her? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,430 Posted April 28, 2015 Still seems weak. There were police officers on the scene, investigators in the process and no telling what else to verify the validity of any pictures. Like I said, any small woman beat to hell like alleged is going to look like hell - be pretty obvious. It's possible the bad "guy" here said the rich football player (with no history of abuse) hit me, got paid and is living and laughing it up all the way to the bank... As noted sports columnist (and attorney) Mike Florio said, even after the settlement N. Holder could of sued Hardy in Civil court - she chose not to, why? Why would a woman who was violently and viciously beat and disrespected not get what she could have coming to her? She also testified that Hardy threw her in the bathroom and later on to a futon filled with guns. She also said he placed his hands on her throat and threatened to kill her. That's not beat to hell, you are spinning the facts of the case. Police could testify to what they know, not what they were told...ie the evidence suggest DV, this is the state of the room. Medical Examiner could describe the injuries, and say they were consistent with DV, but couldn't say it was. And since we haven't seen the pictures, it's impossible to know how bad they were. So again, with the accuser, a huge longshot to get a conviction...or we could go with your theory that the DA lets violent offenders walk the street because's he a "horrible failure". You don't know what the settlement said...like, part of the settlement was that she couldn't sue. You're reaching man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted April 28, 2015 Mike Honcho, on 28 Apr 2015 - 09:48 AM, said: That's not beat to hell, you are spinning the facts of the case. Police could testify to what they know, not what they were told...ie the evidence suggest DV, this is the state of the room. Medical Examiner could describe the injuries, and say they were consistent with DV, but couldn't say it was. And since we haven't seen the pictures, it's impossible to know how bad they were. So again, with the accuser, a huge longshot to get a conviction...or we could go with your theory that the DA lets violent offenders walk the street because's he a "horrible failure". You don't know what the settlement said...like, part of the settlement was that she couldn't sue. You're reaching man. The State does not need the testimony of the accuser to pursue domestic abuse charges. It helps certainly, but not a requirement. The comment I made about letting a violent offender walk either went over your head or you mistook its meaning. I said it in sarcasm - clearly the DA's office did not do that. Which goes to the speculation that 2 + 2 didn't add up to 4 with Ms. Holder's claims. The reach here is the continuous insistence on several to believe the word of a crack head junkie who skipped town as soon as the green landed in her account. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted April 28, 2015 Cowboy running back Joeseph Randle finds out the status of his DV charge soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted April 28, 2015 Cowboy running back Joeseph Randle finds out the status of his DV charge soonis this the dude that was stealing panties Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted April 28, 2015 Magnificent Bastard, on 28 Apr 2015 - 09:53 AM, said: Cowboy running back Joeseph Randle finds out the status of his DV charge soon Now this guy I could do without. I believe in finding out the truth and I believe in 2nd chances - but this clown has failed over and over again. We need him, but I'd still cut his ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted April 28, 2015 is this the dude that was stealing panties No, this genius stole men's underwear. That was his other criminal case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,881 Posted May 2, 2015 Woman beater Greg Hardy tweets out 9/11 joke: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/01/cowboys-de-greg-hardy-makes-a-joke-out-of-september-11/ Stay classy Cowboys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 2, 2015 KSB and Cruzer dont think he did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted May 2, 2015 Lol. He's a perfect fit for the Cowboys. Along with the new junkie they just drafted. Lol. What a team. They simply don't care what you're like as a person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted May 2, 2015 Classless white trash- the jones family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,430 Posted May 28, 2015 Any word on when negotiations with Ray McDonald will start? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted May 28, 2015 Any word on when negotiations with Ray McDonald will start? Not yet.... Stupid to take this long... I think most here have reserved themselves to the fact the suspension is going to stick and he will miss the full 10 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted May 28, 2015 Any word on when negotiations with Ray McDonald will start? As for who will sign him, I heard it's between the Cowboys and Dallas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted July 10, 2015 NFL has reduced Hardy's suspension to 4 games... Seeing how the original statute stated a maximum penalty of 2 games, I bet his camp still files suit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 827 Posted July 10, 2015 Dallas is an Adrian Peterson trade away from having the greatest talent acquisition off season in sports history. 14-2 or bust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,430 Posted July 10, 2015 NFL has reduced Hardy's suspension to 4 games... Seeing how the original statute stated a maximum penalty of 2 games, I bet his camp still files suit. I don't think there was an "original statute", more of this is the one size fits all penalty we had out for DV, and it was mostly just arbitrary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 10, 2015 Dallas is an Adrian Peterson trade away from having the greatest talent acquisition off season in sports history. 14-2 or bust. They also have a disgruntled Dez Bryant holding out and Rolando McLain and Greg Hardy suspended four games. They signed a lot of talent that no one else wanted because of character issues. It's a risky endeavor. Could pay off, could be a disaster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted July 10, 2015 Look at that, the Patriots and Brady are going to be saved because Hardy is a POS. no way that Brady can get 4 now. You have to laugh sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted July 13, 2015 I don't think there was an "original statute", more of this is the one size fits all penalty we had out for DV, and it was mostly just arbitrary. Actually there was. And it was a 2 game penalty maximum - as outlined in the Personal Conduct Policy (at the time). Hardy's team is still considering taking the NFL to court on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 13, 2015 Actually there was. And it was a 2 game penalty maximum - as outlined in the Personal Conduct Policy (at the time). Hardy's team is still considering taking the NFL to court on this. My God, they dodged a huge bullet. He's lucky he's not in jail. They'd be out of their minds to push this. It went from 10 to 4. They should be thanking their lucky stars Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted July 13, 2015 My God, they dodged a huge bullet. He's lucky he's not in jail. They'd be out of their minds to push this. It went from 10 to 4. They should be thanking their lucky stars I really don't think they did. The NFL had a house of cards, and they knew it. Heck even the DA of Mecklenburg County saw this case for what it was - that's why they knew pursuing it was futile... But I do think Hardy's team just needs to let this go and focus on his future from game 5 and on. Saves us a bit of cap space too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,898 Posted July 13, 2015 Went from 10 to 4. Brady from 4 to 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted July 13, 2015 I really don't think they did. The NFL had a house of cards, and they knew it. Heck even the DA of Mecklenburg County saw this case for what it was - that's why they knew pursuing it was futile... But I do think Hardy's team just needs to let this go and focus on his future from game 5 and on. Saves us a bit of cap space too. Stop it. The DA didn't re-try him because his victim/witness got paid. Can't you just admit he's a total scumbag? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 13, 2015 Went from 10 to 4. Brady from 4 to 0 I'm guessing Brady goes to 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted July 13, 2015 I wish goddell would take Brady's from 4 to six for him being a whiny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,430 Posted July 13, 2015 I really don't think they did. The NFL had a house of cards, and they knew it. Heck even the DA of Mecklenburg County saw this case for what it was - that's why they knew pursuing it was futile... But I do think Hardy's team just needs to let this go and focus on his future from game 5 and on. Saves us a bit of cap space too. That's so not the case, witness didn't show(speculation was paid off), had she shown he had a case and that's why they were pursuing it. You're wearing Cowboy blinders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted July 13, 2015 Went from 10 to 4. Brady from 4 to 0 There is now way in hell the NFL can justify 4 for Brady now. Patriots saved by a scumbag. Nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,430 Posted July 13, 2015 I wish goddell would take Brady's from 4 to six for him being a whiny ###### Make it 8...add two more for the entire Pats base being whiny biatches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 13, 2015 I really don't think they did. The NFL had a house of cards, and they knew it. Heck even the DA of Mecklenburg County saw this case for what it was - that's why they knew pursuing it was futile... But I do think Hardy's team just needs to let this go and focus on his future from game 5 and on. Saves us a bit of cap space too. Come on Dude. I know you're a Cowboy fan, but the guy beat the crap out of her and threatened to kill her. You know the circumstances of the trial. Stop pretending the guy is innocent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,898 Posted July 13, 2015 There is now way in hell the NFL can justify 4 for Brady now. Patriots saved by a scumbag. Nice. It will be 1, I am near certain. Which is still too many. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 13, 2015 It will be 1, I am near certain. Which is still too many. Cruzer is blind towards Hardy and you're blind towards Brady. Gotta love homers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
