HenryHill9323 65 Posted April 22, 2015 Two words should make any Philthy fan with a clue STFU, but since there is no such thing I'm sure they won't: Mike Vick. I would never defend what Hardy did, but I'm thinking two people hopped up on coke getting into an altercation is pretty common. Running a business that tortures puppies for profit on an ongoing basis isn't common. Philthy put the CEO of that "business" up front as the face of their organization. Paid him tens of millions of dollars. So, for any Philthy fan to ever look down on any other organization is comical. For these reasons, or for football reasons 0-Forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,898 Posted April 22, 2015 Speak for yourself there junior. disingenuous Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted April 22, 2015 Two words should make any Philthy fan with a clue STFU, but since there is no such thing I'm sure they won't: Mike Vick. I would never defend what Hardy did, but I'm thinking two people hopped up on coke getting into an altercation is pretty common. Running a business that tortures puppies for profit on an ongoing basis isn't common. Philthy put the CEO of that "business" up front as the face of their organization. Paid him tens of millions of dollars. So, for any Philthy fan to ever look down on any other organization is comical. For these reasons, or for football reasons 0-Forever. One guy, Who's not even with them anymore. Should we delve into the classy Cowboy's past? Nate Newton? Hollywood Henderson? Pacman Jones? Yeah, that's what I thought....better just keep to current players. Bwahahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,173 Posted April 22, 2015 Then it's a failure of the criminal justice system. It's not the NFL's job to determine if (and what) crimes its players have committed. Bingo Not only is it not the NFL's job to determine guilt and innocence, they are simply not equipped to do so in a fair and judicious manner. The NFL is a football league not a criminal justice department. I can get why they or a team suspends a player while player was in court or something....but once it's over, once the charges are dropped or the case dropped or found innocent etc. Then it's over. The Crinimal Justice System has spoken. Roger Goodell is a communist dictator. And it will come back to bite him soon, it almost did with the Ray Rice stuff, but it will soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted April 22, 2015 One guy, Who's not even with them anymore. Should we delve into the classy Cowboy's past? Nate Newton? Hollywood Henderson? Pacman Jones? Yeah, that's what I thought....better just keep to current players. Bwahahahaha I wasn't talking to you, Dummy. I said "Philthy fan with a clue", None exist............certainly not you, Ducky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted April 22, 2015 I wasn't talking to you, Dummy. I said "Philthy fan with a clue", None exist............certainly not you, Ducky. Hahaha Yeah, that's what I thought. Let's keep it current. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted April 22, 2015 You have no idea what I'm talking about? lol Holy fock dude.I've been in several threads today, no way of knowing which particular one you were referencing here. Sorry that is hard for you to understand. You should have stopped there but you decided to compare Dallas with Philly as far as low character players. Why would you ever go there? With any team? I mean, root for your team and all, but having low life thugs and criminals is not a topic you really want to visit. Ever.It was a comparison to point out that Dallas signed the same number of ex felons that your team had - just showing the hypocrisy. Again, sorry this was over your head. I brought up Cooper because it's the closest thing to a low character guy that the Eagles have. Unless someone kills someone with their car today. Or beats up and threatens to kill his girlfriend.The Eagles and their fans are classless on their own, Cooper had little to do with that brand. In case you think it's a secret, it's not - everyone already knows it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted April 22, 2015 I'll take that as a surrender. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted April 22, 2015 Hahaha Yeah, that's what I thought. Let's keep it current. I can see why you want to ignore the history of your shittastic organization. 0-49 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted April 22, 2015 I can see why you want to ignore the history of your shittastic organization. 0-49 And the number of low character/criminals on the two teams is 49-1. Conrats on being the league's least classy team. I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted April 22, 2015 it looks like the cowboys draft is all messed up now gonna be looking at drafting a DE early in the draft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted April 22, 2015 If the ten games stand, he'll miss both Giant games and both Eagles games. Another great signing by Jones. Can a Peterson trade be far off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted April 22, 2015 Jeez you guys say patriots fans are worse when it comes to defending their team when they are accused of wrong doing. Seems to me like this is just as bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted April 22, 2015 And nobody is saying Hardy isn't a bad guy. He clearly has issues if he's got coke and junkie ho's in his apartment... But I do appreciate and value the Constitution and Due Process - maybe you've heard of it. Not sure how suspending a player infringes upon Constitutional Rights or Due Process. I had no idea you could only get reprimanded in the workplace by committing crimes. Most companies in America haven't set the bar at that point. Why should the NFL be any different? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted April 22, 2015 Jeez you guys say patriots fans are worse when it comes to defending their team when they are accused of wrong doing. Seems to me like this is just as bad it's just a bunch of sh*ts and giggles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,765 Posted April 22, 2015 If the ten games stand, he'll miss both Giant games and both Eagles games. Another great signing by Jones. Can a Peterson trade be far off?Actually if the 10 games stand Jerry gets to keep most of that money and the D gets a nice addition late in the season when everybody is banged up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted April 22, 2015 Not sure how suspending a player infringes upon Constitutional Rights or Due Process.I don't think anyone has suggested it has... My point was that Due Process played out, and the very own district attorney didn't find enough to pursue charges - so that warrants 10 games? Seems a bit ass backwards. I had no idea you could only get reprimanded in the workplace by committing crimes. Most companies in America haven't set the bar at that point. Why should the NFL be any different?A suspension of this magnitude, one would think, would have some kind of hard core, bona fide, evidence to back it up. In this case the only evidence appears to be the testimony of a crack using junkie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted April 22, 2015 Actually if the 10 games stand Jerry gets to keep most of that money and the D gets a nice addition late in the season when everybody is banged up. What about the cap space? It's just tied up without any benefit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 568 Posted April 22, 2015 What about the cap space? It's just tied up without any benefit. As I recall, his contract is structured so that the majority of his salary is paid only when he's active for a game (ie not suspended). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted April 22, 2015 Dallas will receive cap space credit for each game Hardy misses due to suspension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 568 Posted April 22, 2015 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/22/hardy-likely-to-make-just-over-5-million-for-six-games/ The bulk of Hardy’s pay for 2015 comes in the form of per-game roster bonuses. He will get a bonus of $578,125 for each game he’s on the 53-man roster, which means if Hardy played all 16 games, he would make $9.25 million. But if Hardy is on the suspended list for 10 games and only on the 53-man roster for six, he would lose most of that per-game roster bonus, and would instead make $3.47 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,765 Posted April 22, 2015 What about the cap space? It's just tied up without any benefit.Good point, I'm not sure what he counts against the cap. I know that the contract was such that the more games he played in the more money he'd make. And it was heavily performance based. He had to reach certain milestones in order to get the full payout. This suspension pretty much guarantees he won't hit any of those marks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,881 Posted April 22, 2015 Scumbag woman beater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted April 22, 2015 Suspended? Looks like it's going around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted April 22, 2015 Dallas will receive cap space credit for each game Hardy misses due to suspension. more than enough to sign the kid beater Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted April 22, 2015 Not sure how suspending a player infringes upon Constitutional Rights or Due Process. I had no idea you could only get reprimanded in the workplace by committing crimes. Most companies in America haven't set the bar at that point. Why should the NFL be any different? The chick at ESPN just got suspended for saying some words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted April 22, 2015 does anyone know why ad block plus stops working for no good reason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,765 Posted April 22, 2015 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/22/hardy-likely-to-make-just-over-5-million-for-six-games/ There you go. Looks like Jerry got a pretty good deal. I'm sure he'd rather have Hardy healthy for all 16 games but he made sure he didn't get burned if he couldn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,432 Posted April 22, 2015 I don't think anyone has suggested it has... My point was that Due Process played out, and the very own district attorney didn't find enough to pursue charges - so that warrants 10 games? Seems a bit ass backwards. A suspension of this magnitude, one would think, would have some kind of hard core, bona fide, evidence to back it up. In this case the only evidence appears to be the testimony of a crack using junkie. You do know there was a trial by judge first and there was enough evidence for the judge to convict. Hardy then appealed for a jury trial and the woman wouldn't cooperate after settling her civil suit against Hardy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted April 22, 2015 You do know there was a trial by judge first and there was enough evidence for the judge to convict. Hardy then appealed for a jury trial and the wouldn't cooperate after settling her civil suit against Hardy. No, he didn't know that. He only sees what he wants to see. You have to understand, most of these Cowboy fans are out of their minds because of all the losing. When they sold out years ago to root for the Cowboys instead of the home team, they did it with the expectation that they would always be on top. But now after years of being laughed at. They think they're on the brink of something. So they are delusional. This Cruzer guy is probably from Connecticut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted April 22, 2015 No, he didn't know that. He only sees what he wants to see. You have to understand, most of these Cowboy fans are out of their minds because of all the losing. When they sold out years ago to root for the Cowboys instead of the home team, they did it with the expectation that they would always be on top. But now after years of being laughed at. They think they're on the brink of something. So they are delusional. This Cruzer guy is probably from Connecticut. hahahahaha, they ejaculate blue, white and silver all over their blow up dollies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,881 Posted April 22, 2015 Cruzer is a cockroach? Ugh, I thought he was at least from Dallas. Only reason somebody from the Northeast roots for the Cowboys is cause they hate their dad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 827 Posted April 22, 2015 I am a Cowboy fan, but I would be saying this with any player on any team... Didn't this incident happen before Goodell changed the rules? So he can go back into the past and punish people for things they did before the rules changed? How far back in time can he go? Can he make drugs a mandatory 2 year suspension, and then suspend guys that failed a pisss test in 2011 for 2 years? And if he can apply new harsher punishments to guys that broke rules before they were rules, why can't he also clear Josh Gordon of smoking pot when he wouldn't have failed a test according to the new rules? Roger Goodell is the Rick Perry of commissioners. If the cost to kill 5 guilty dudes is also killing 5 innocent ones, then it was worth it, as his sole focus is appeasing the "tough on crime" crowd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted April 22, 2015 I am a Cowboy fan, but I would be saying this with any player on any team... Didn't this incident happen before Goodell changed the rules? So he can go back into the past and punish people for things they did before the rules changed? How far back in time can he go? Can he make drugs a mandatory 2 year suspension, and then suspend guys that failed a pisss test in 2011 for 2 years? And if he can apply new harsher punishments to guys that broke rules before they were rules, why can't he also clear Josh Gordon of smoking pot when he wouldn't have failed a test according to the new rules? Roger Goodell is the Rick Perry of commissioners. If the cost to kill 5 guilty dudes is also killing 5 innocent ones, then it was worth it, as his sole focus is appeasing the "tough on crime" crowd. Where are you from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,083 Posted April 23, 2015 Not sure how suspending a player infringes upon Constitutional Rights or Due Process. I had no idea you could only get reprimanded in the workplace by committing crimes. Most companies in America haven't set the bar at that point. Why should the NFL be any different? This could be so easy for Goodell - the policy should be that if a guy is exonerated legally there is no penalty. Period. To do otherwise is to say the American system doesn't work. And I don't like the Cowboys. A lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,173 Posted April 23, 2015 This could be so easy for Goodell - the policy should be that if a guy is exonerated legally there is no penalty. Period. To do otherwise is to say the American system doesn't work. And I don't like the Cowboys. A lot. Seems so simple doesn't it? He missed a full season already. Does time served for a crime you were exonerated for not count in the NFL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,173 Posted April 23, 2015 The chick at ESPN just got suspended for saying some words. And if the Cowboys suspended Hardy you'd have a good point. But they didn't, the governing body did. It'd be like the FCC or the Justice Dept. telling ESPN they have to suspend that chick. That to would've out of bounds imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted April 23, 2015 This could be so easy for Goodell - the policy should be that if a guy is exonerated legally there is no penalty. Period. To do otherwise is to say the American system doesn't work. And I don't like the Cowboys. A lot. Greg Hardy is a rich dude with a lot of resources. Same thing happens to some scrub and that guy is doing time. Justice works differently for the rich. If Greg Hardy was some factory worker from Gary, dude is in prison. He's not....he's suspended with an opportunity to make tens of millions.....if he can stay out of trouble. Really a pretty decent deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,173 Posted April 23, 2015 Greg Hardy is a rich dude with a lot of resources. Same thing happens to some scrub and that guy is doing time. Justice works differently for the rich. If Greg Hardy was some factory worker from Gary, dude is in prison. He's not....he's suspended with an opportunity to make tens of millions.....if he can stay out of trouble. Really a pretty decent deal. You don't know that. If Greg Hardy was a factory worker he wouldn't have crazy money hungry gold digging women after him who know one 911 phone call can be a pay day either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites