Ted Wells Presents DeflateGate Report To NFL, Patriots; No Discipline Decided Yet

[edjr 6,899]

 

To no surprise, the 274-page report generated by Ted Wells contains plenty of information. And that information includes some bad information that initially was given to the Patriots.

At page 100 of the report, Wells explains that the January 19 letter from NFL senior V.P. David Gardi to Patriots owner Robert Kraft provided two inaccurate facts to the Patriots.

“The inspection, which involved each ball being inspected twice with different gauges, revealed that none of the Patriots’ game balls were inflated to the specifications required under Rule 2, Section 1,”Gardi wrote. “In fact, one of the game balls was inflated to 10.1 psi, far below the requirement of 12-1/2 to 13-1’2 psi. In contrast, each of the Colts’ game balls that was inspected met the requirements set forth above.”

The Wells report notes that not a single measurement of any of the New England footballs reflected a PSI reading of 10.1. In fact, only one measurement of one football was as low as 10.5 PSI.

The Wells report also points out that Gardi’s comments about the Colts’ game balls was not accurate. On one of the two gauges used to test the footballs, THREE of the four Colts balls tested were UNDER the limit of 12.5 PSI.

The Wells report essentially shrugs at these arguably significant misstatements of fact, pointing out that Gardi wasn’t personally at the game (they why did he write the letter?) and that the mistakes were “inadvertent.”

But the errors speak to a potential degree of zeal and desire by some in the league office to catch the Patriots in the act. … [and] should at least spark healthy curiosity that someone was out to get the Patriots.

Far be it for me to cast doubt on the NFL or the Wells Report. After all, I don’t want to come off like a homer, taking the side of a franchise that’s set the gold standard of success in a league that constantly passes rules designed specifically to stop them (Illegal contact in 2005, ineligible receiver in 2015). It wouldn’t be fair of me to suggest that the fact someone from NFL headquarters who wasn’t at the game sent the team a completely erroneous email filled with misinformation speaks to someone “out to get the Patriots.” After all, I don’t have proof.

Nor can I state that just because Wells dismisses these lies as “mistakes” – make that “inadvertent mistakes” – simply made by one man, not part of any larger bias against the Pats and not worthy of looking into any further proves the report isn’t on the level. Because I don’t have any facts to back that up.

However, after a comprehensive investigation, I have concluded that it is more probable than not that National Football League personnel participated in a deliberate effort to deceive the Patriots. In particular, I have concluded that it is more probable than not that Roger Goodell and David Gardi participated in a deliberate effort to make it look like the Patriots footballs were severely under-inflated and the Colts’ were not.

Based on the evidence it is also my view that it is more probable than not that Ted Wells was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of Goodell and Gardi.

So there. Based on the new standard of guilt in football, which is to say the old standard of guilt in all witch hunts, despite and sort of proof I find the league, Goodell, Gardi and Wells all guilty of cheating, lying and covering up and deserve to be suspended and disgraced.

See how fun that was? It’s easy to come to a conclusion when you know what it’s going to be ahead of time. And it didn’t take me 100 days.

 

 

 

http://thornography.weei.com/sports/boston/2015/05/07/wells-report-ignores-nfl-lying-to-patriots/

 

written by the #1 patriots rumpswab, but does bring up some good points.

[Djgb13 2,339]

From what I was reading Ted Wells report left out a good bit of testimony and crucial information. Also read that it had holes in the story as well. At work so all I saw on the news pages were the headlines so I can't quite go into detail.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

As long as he's back for the Giants game. I don't want him messing with kharma. 2007, 2011, 2015?

[Mike Honcho 5,439]

 

Lifetime ban and a lifetime ban on his children.

 

This guy gets it.

[parrot 789]

I don't see any way that Brady would get more than the max for a PED/masking infraction which is 6 games. I doubt he gets suspended at all based on how flimsy and circumstantial their evidence is. Sherman got a PED suspension reversed on appeal because his sample cup leaked and had to be transferred to another cup, thus the sample collection process was compromised. In Brady's case there wasn't even really a process to compromise. And the league's attempt to fabricate a protocol on the fly was a joke. From the second Walt Anderson brought two gauges into the locker room that varied by almost .5 psi, the whole thing has been a big clusterfock.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Circumstantial evidence isn't bad evidence. It still counts.

[parrot 789]

Circumstantial evidence isn't bad evidence. It still counts.

 

It's counts based on how strong it is, and in this case it's not very strong. I think they could safely hand down a fine based on what they have, but if they try to give a major suspension my guess is it will be challenged and probably reversed. The Wells report says in effect; we aren't certain that anything happened, and even if it did, we aren't certain Tom Brady had anything to do with it. If the league tries to hand down a major suspension based on that, that's a joke. Maybe he gets a couple games but nothing like the 8 games, or a season being bandied about.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

 

It's counts based on how strong it is, and in this case it's not very strong. I think they could safely hand down a fine based on what they have, but if they try to give a major suspension my guess is it will be challenged and probably reversed. The Wells report says in effect; we aren't certain that anything happened, and even if it did, we aren't certain Tom Brady had anything to do with it. If the league tries to hand down a major suspension based on that, that's a joke. Maybe he gets a couple games but nothing like the 8 games, or a season being bandied about.

 

I don't read it that way at all. I think it says something definetly happened and Brady was probably involved.

[NewbieJr 541]

I don't see any way that Brady would get more than the max for a PED/masking infraction which is 6 games. I doubt he gets suspended at all based on how flimsy and circumstantial their evidence is. Sherman got a PED suspension reversed on appeal because his sample cup leaked and had to be transferred to another cup, thus the sample collection process was compromised. In Brady's case there wasn't even really a process to compromise. And the league's attempt to fabricate a protocol on the fly was a joke. From the second Walt Anderson brought two gauges into the locker room that varied by almost .5 psi, the whole thing has been a big clusterfock.

You're3 conveniently overlooking Brady's refusal to let the league see his incoming/outgoing texts, phone calls, and email, as well as the fact that the one ball boy's phone log shows a one hour phone conversation with Brady the night this all came out. And the text exchange between the two ball boys regarding Brady. True, there wasn't a video camera videotaping the guys actually letting the air out with Brady standing over them shouting instructions. And to Patriot fans, that's what it would take for them to admit they were cheating again. But you and I both know they purposely let air out. And you know that Brady instructed them to. And if he didn't think it gives him an advantage, then why the hell would he risk cheating to begin with? Or vehemently deny it when he got caught?

[parrot 789]

I don't read it that way at all. I think it says something definetly happened and Brady was probably involved.

 

If you want to paste anything that suggest something "definitely" happened, I'd love to see it. And "probably" is just another way of saying they aren't certain.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

If you want to paste anything that suggest something "definitely" happened, I'd love to see it. And "probably" is just another way of saying they aren't certain.

 

Probably is a way of saying they are pretty damn sure (more than 50% sure) but not beyond a reasonable doubt.

Certainly enough to convict even if it were a civil case.

[parrot 789]

You're3 conveniently overlooking Brady's refusal to let the league see his incoming/outgoing texts, phone calls, and email, as well as the fact that the one ball boy's phone log shows a one hour phone conversation with Brady the night this all came out. And the text exchange between the two ball boys regarding Brady. True, there wasn't a video camera videotaping the guys actually letting the air out with Brady standing over them shouting instructions. And to Patriot fans, that's what it would take for them to admit they were cheating again. But you and I both know they purposely let air out. And you know that Brady instructed them to. And if he didn't think it gives him an advantage, then why the hell would he risk cheating to begin with? Or vehemently deny it when he got caught?

 

I'm not overlooking any of those things. The phone calls, texts, and Brady not giving up info is part of the circumstantial case against him. And I don't "know" anything that you suggest we both know. I agree there is a case for the more likely than not conclusion, but that's not "know"ing. People ignore the parts of the texts where Brady tells Jastremski "you didn't do anything wrong" and where Jastremski tells McNally "He (Brady) never gives you anything". But of course those items don't fit the narrative this report aimed to establish.

[Eaglesin14 12]

Pats fans are still twisting themselves into pretzels trying to deny the obvious.

 

Fun stuff to watch.

[parrot 789]

 

Probably is a way of saying they are pretty damn sure (more than 50% sure) but not beyond a reasonable doubt.

Certainly enough to convict even if it were a civil case.

 

So pretty much exactly what I just said?

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

So pretty much exactly what I just said?

 

But who needs to be certain.

The NFL certainly does not.

[Djgb13 2,339]

 

But who needs to be certain.

The NFL certainly does not.

Fact

[parrot 789]

 

But who needs to be certain.

The NFL certainly does not.

 

For a major suspension of a marquee player? They better be pretty focking certain.

[Flyfreak 84]

hahahahaha, focking gronk: there's only one thing you can deflate, THESE NUTS!

 

http://tv.bamargera.com/rob-gronkowski-tells-the-world-to-deflate-deez-nuts-in-response-to-deflategate-scandal/?utm_content=bufferc0cfd&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

[IGotWorms 4,063]

It would've been nice if they'd at least used a clearly and convincing evidence stabdard. That's lower than beyond a reasonable doubt but higher than simple preponderance of the evidence.

[Eaglesin14 12]

For a major suspension of a marquee player? They better be pretty focking certain.

 

Tell that to Greg Hardy. His case didn't have any charges.......and he is looking at almost 2 years of lost time.

 

Not sure why a "marquee player" should get a different standard than anyone else when it comes to cheating.

[Djgb13 2,339]

Tell that to Greg Hardy. His case didn't have any charges.......and he is looking at almost 2 years of lost time.

 

Not sure why a "marquee player" should get a different standard than anyone else when it comes to cheating.

It's the cowboys. So no one really cares

[KSB2424 3,174]

Half of you Patriot fans think a man not even convicted of a crime where its only "he said / she said", should be suspended more than 10 games this year after sitting out a full year last year (Hardy). Goodell simply "thinks" Hardy is guilty, and most Patriot fans were okay with that.

 

Now you want undisputed, unequivocal, smoking gun evidence for Brady though!@#!.

 

At least Newbie and Shonuff are consistent. The rest of you are just homers.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

 

For a major suspension of a marquee player? They better be pretty focking certain.

 

Make sure you're certain next time you punish your kids. This isn't a criminal proceeding. The NFL is a private club, and we have no say.

[Flyfreak 84]

jim gray pretty much thinks tom brady is stupid for not being up to speed on the deflategate report (msnbc interview)

[IGotWorms 4,063]

jim gray pretty much thinks tom brady is stupid for not being up to speed on the deflategate report (msnbc interview)

Of course he could talk about it. But they're probably waiting to see where the league is going with this before commenting. No sense pouring gasoline on the fire

[Sho Nuff 720]

Half of you Patriot fans think a man not even convicted of a crime where its only "he said / she said", should be suspended more than 10 games this year after sitting out a full year last year (Hardy). Goodell simply "thinks" Hardy is guilty, and most Patriot fans were okay with that.

 

Now you want undisputed, unequivocal, smoking gun evidence for Brady though!@#!.

 

At least Newbie and Shonuff are consistent. The rest of you are just homers.

 

He was actually convicted though...conviction was overturned on appeal...but he was actually convicted.

[jerryskids 7,091]

There is a fine line between gamesmanship and cheating. The difference with deflategate and Rice using stickum is that the Patriots doctored the balls after the refs had inspected them. That's more egregious IMO. Had they submitted them underinflated because, say, they knew that the officials didn't always check them and if they did they would inflate them to the minimum, that's nothing.

 

Also the lack of cooperation adds to the penalty.

 

Falcons got a $350K fine and lost a 5th for soundgate. So a fine and a pick are a given. I think it will be more -- $500K and a 3rd. Plus Brady gets suspended two games, appeals, and it is reduced to one. I just don't see how Brady can play that first game given that Bell is missing it for smoking a doob. Seems almost equalizing.

[jerryskids 7,091]

I don't see any way that Brady would get more than the max for a PED/masking infraction which is 6 games. I doubt he gets suspended at all based on how flimsy and circumstantial their evidence is. Sherman got a PED suspension reversed on appeal because his sample cup leaked and had to be transferred to another cup, thus the sample collection process was compromised. In Brady's case there wasn't even really a process to compromise. And the league's attempt to fabricate a protocol on the fly was a joke. From the second Walt Anderson brought two gauges into the locker room that varied by almost .5 psi, the whole thing has been a big clusterfock.

I find the .5 psi difference disturbing. That's a very high variation for something the league is claiming to be important.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

I find the .5 psi difference disturbing. That's a very high variation for something the league is claiming to be important.

You could look at it like 14 of the 15 balls measured at halftime flunked the test according to at least one measurement

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Why didn't Mike suspend wiffle ball on his own? Why did it have to be pointed out to him?

Maybe Mike has better things to do than Obsessively comb through this squalid corner of his website.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Maybe Mike has better things to do than Obsessively comb through this squalid corner of his website.

 

Exactly my point. Maybe the NFL had better things to do than worry about balls being properly inflated

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

Seems Brady and the ball boy became best buds as soon as this came out. Texting and calling each other constantly.

 

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/suspicious-texts-between-tom-brady-151219208.html

 

 

The only way Brady could be more guilty is if this all went on with an NFL Films crew recording it. They really ought to stop spinning and denying. They're looking as foolish as ARod when he kept denying.

[edjr 6,899]

I am eagerly awaiting for the release of the rest of the report and data they collected and other witness statements. (say like Brady himself)

 

I'm tired of reading all the stuff they cherry picked.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

I am eagerly awaiting for the release of the rest of the report and data they collected and other witness statements. (say like Brady himself)

 

I'm tired of reading all the stuff they cherry picked.

Yes, I'm sure proof of his innocence lay within.

[edjr 6,899]

 

This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by Magnificent Bastard. View it anyway?

 

 

 

I can only assume you have replied to me, because that is why you are ignored.

 

stop replying to me troll.

[NewbieJr 541]

I am eagerly awaiting for the release of the rest of the report and data they collected and other witness statements. (say like Brady himself)

 

I'm tired of reading all the stuff they cherry picked.

The investigators begged Brady to cooperate. He refused. No different than refusing a breathalyzer. It's admitting guilt

[edjr 6,899]

The investigators begged Brady to cooperate. He refused. No different than refusing a breathalyzer. It's admitting guilt

 

huh?

 

you don't think he spoke with them?

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

 

huh?

 

you don't think he spoke with them?

 

If what he said the to them is the same as what he said to the press then he lied to them. They needed verification that we was telling you the truth and he refused to provide it. He lost the presumption of innocence after they read the equipment guys texts.

[RLLD 4,275]

If what he said the to them is the same as what he said to the press then he lied to them. They needed verification that we was telling you the truth and he refused to provide it. He lost the presumption of innocence after they read the equipment guys texts.

 

I believe he did cooperate to a point, but did decline to provide certain things when asked, such as his phone to review texts etc....in order to maintain an element of deniability he had to draw lines for sure.

[DankNuggs 305]

If what he said the to them is the same as what he said to the press then he lied to them. They needed verification that we was telling you the truth and he refused to provide it. He lost the presumption of innocence after they read the equipment guys texts.

Those investigators were just trying to unleash the gisele fappening