Charleston SC Church Shooting

[Flyfreak 84]

Notice how there are no riots or looting going on in SC. Just prayer vigils and a memorial fund being set up to remember the victims. Al Sharpton saying he is going down there and a lot of the AA community speaking out saying they don't want him there because he stirs up trouble.

so much hatred in the world today

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Really?

 

What fer regulation would you adopt right now that would have kept is feller from obtaining a handgun? I mean right now at 4:24 pm est. What regulation? I don't know much about this murderer so I'm waiting to be enlightened.

Every situation is different. I stand by my statement that guns are too easy to get in many parts of our country. They may also be too hard to get in some other parts, but the current system isn't working.

[5-Points 3,751]

I disagree. The people who were slaughtered weren't the problem. Gun regulations are.

His dad bought the gun and gave it to him even though he wasn't legally supposed to have one. That is against the law in S.C. D!ckhead was a felon, so his possession of a firearm was against the law everywhere. Carrying a concealed weapon without permit is against the law in S.C. Carrying a gun into a church is against the law in S.C.

 

There were several gun laws that were broken in this instance but more laws will solve the problem.

 

Gun laws only work on law abiding people like Carol Bowne.

[Flyfreak 84]

Every situation is different. I stand by my statement that guns are too easy to get in many parts of our country. They may also be too hard to get in some other parts, but the current system isn't working.

the gun control issue will never go away until there is a major sweeping reform in this country starting with the repealing of the 2nd amendment

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

His dad bought the gun and gave it to him even though he wasn't legally supposed to have one. That is against the law in S.C. D!ckhead was a felon, so his possession of a firearm was against the law everywhere. Carrying a concealed weapon without permit is against the law in S.C. Carrying a gun into a church is against the law in S.C.

 

There were several gun laws that were broken in this instance but more laws will solve the problem.

 

Gun laws only work on law abiding people like Carol Bowne.

Everything you say is probably true. I still say our current system is not working.

[5-Points 3,751]

Everything you say is probably true. I still say our current system is not working.

There are 300 million or so guns in private hands in this country. An astronomically small percentage are used to commit crimes. I'd say the system works well.

 

There's definitely a problem with sick/evil individuals committing barbaric acts of violence, it's just not a gun problem.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

There are 300 million or so guns in private hands in this country. An astronomically small percentage are used to commit crimes. I'd say the system works well.

 

There's definitely a problem with sick/evil individuals committing barbaric acts of violence, it's just not a gun problem.

We would never tolerate a product from any other industry that culminated in as much death that comes from this product.

[JTB 52]

Every situation is different. I stand by my statement that guns are too easy to get in many parts of our country. They may also be too hard to get in some other parts, but the current system isn't working.

I agree.

 

To use a gun regulation mishap as to why those in Charleston were murdered is not true. I got your point, but I felt you were way to early to blame regulations as to why the folks were murdered.

[naomi 360]

Charleston shooter Dylann Storm Roof was reportedly taking a drug that has been linked with sudden outbursts of violence, fitting the pattern of innumerable other mass shooters who were on or had recently come off pharmaceutical drugs linked to aggression.

 

According to a CBS News report, earlier this year when cops searched Roof after he was acting suspiciously inside a Bath and Body Works store, they found “orange strips” that Roof told officers was suboxone, a narcotic that is used to treat opiate addiction.

 

According to a Courier-Journal report, suboxone “is increasingly being abused, sold on the streets and inappropriately prescribed” by doctors. For users, it is even more addictive than the drugs it’s supposed to help them quit. As we previously highlighted, virtually every major mass shooter was taking some form of SSRI or other pharmaceutical drug at the time of their attack, including Columbine killer Eric Harris, ‘Batman’ shooter James Holmes and Sandy Hook gunman Adam Lanza.

[5-Points 3,751]

We would never tolerate a product from any other industry that culminated in as much death that comes from this product.

But we do.

[JTB 52]

 

No excuse.

[JTB 52]

But we do.

I'll play. Do tell.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

But we do.

I stand corrected. Pharmaceuticals as well.

[Djgb13 2,339]

We would never tolerate a product from any other industry that culminated in as much death that comes from this product.

As long as there are humans there will be violence. In early times it was rocks and clubs. Then bows and arrows along with knives. Then swords. Now guns and explosives. Even if more restrictions are put on gun regulations humans will still find a way to kill someone if they want. Personally I don't care if they make it a little harder to get guns (longer process or more extensive background checks) as long as I can still legally own a firearm such as a handgun, rifle, shotgun, ect.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

As long as there are humans there will be violence. In early times it was rocks and clubs. Then bows and arrows along with knives. Then swords. Now guns and explosives. Even if more restrictions are put on gun regulations humans will still find a way to kill someone if they want. Personally I don't care if they make it a little harder to get guns (longer process or more extensive background checks) as long as I can still legally own a firearm such as a handgun, rifle, shotgun, ect.

I doubt this freak could have taken out 9 people with a knife.

[5-Points 3,751]

I'll play. Do tell.

There are plenty. Swimming pools for one.

[naomi 360]

No excuse.

 

I don't see it as an excuse but something that plays into inherent potential.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

There are plenty. Swimming pools for one.

Swimming pools purpose is not to kill. A guns is. It's why it's made.

[5-Points 3,751]

Swimming pools purpose is not to kill. A guns is. It's why it's made.

And yet every year more people die in pools than by getting shot.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

And yet every year more people die in pools than by getting shot.

For your correlation to fit you would have to divide the amount of people who died while using a pool versus the amount that died when a gun was used for its intended purpose.

 

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[tanatastic 2,062]

And yet every year more people die in pools than by getting shot.

Id need a stat to back this up.

[5-Points 3,751]

For your correlation to fit you would have to divide the amount of people who died while using a pool versus the amount that died when a gun was used for its intended purpose.

 

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You said we wouldn't tolerate a product that culminated in as many deaths as guns produce. Far more deaths are caused by pools than guns.

[parrot 789]

Id need a stat to back this up.

 

Do you need to see stats for alcohol and tobacco too?

[5-Points 3,751]

Id need a stat to back this up.

I'd provide one if I weren't on my phone. I'm sure its googleable.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

You said we wouldn't tolerate a product that culminated in as many deaths as guns produce. Far more deaths are caused by pools than guns.

Ok. A product used for its intended purpose is what I should have said.

[5-Points 3,751]

Ok. A product used for its intended purpose is what I should have said.

Intended purpose is relative to the person holding the gun. A gun's intended purpose could be to save a life. If we compare the number of defensive use instances to the number of illegal use instances I'm sure the defensive use would dwarf illegal use.

[Djgb13 2,339]

I doubt this freak could have taken out 9 people with a knife.

Not saying that. Having a gun definitely helps create more bodies. But he could have definitely still killed people regardless. I don't care if there are stricter gun laws I just don't want the government to take away my right to own a gun. They say assault rifles are the worst but like in this situation a handgun is the most commonly used weapon in a shooting because it can be concealed.

[frank 2,338]

 

Less G's then usual

That's pretty good.

[jerryskids 7,062]

5-points won this thread.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

5-points won this thread.

So you conclude a pool is more dangerous than a gun?

[JTB 52]

So you conclude a pool is more dangerous than a gun?

Maybe.

 

My guns haven't harmed anyone. My pool caused me to stub my toe.

[jerryskids 7,062]

So you conclude a pool is more dangerous than a gun?

Overall, no. For young children, probably. Why do you hate kids?

 

I was including alcohol and tobacco, which in hindsight was brought up by parrot, not 5-points. So I amend my statement to... you lost this thread.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Overall, no. For young children, probably. Why do you hate kids?

 

I was including alcohol and tobacco, which in hindsight was brought up by parrot, not 5-points. So I amend my statement to... you lost this thread.

Aw shucks. If I wasn't on the Newbie spice watch list I would respond with my usual wit that I am renowned for, but she says its bullying. Carry on without me.

[jerryskids 7,062]

Aw shucks. If I wasn't on the Newbie spice watch list I would respond with my usual wit that I am renowned for, but she says its bullying. Carry on without me.

 

I'm a big boy who has never considered reporting anyone or flexing my internet muscles that I can rally a group of people to get somebody banned, so go for it.

[5-Points 3,751]

So you conclude a pool is more dangerous than a gun?

 

Overall, no. For young children, probably. Why do you hate kids?

 

I was including alcohol and tobacco, which in hindsight was brought up by parrot, not 5-points. So I amend my statement to... you lost this thread.

Yeah, I've found Parrot to be on point most of the time. I didn't want to go with alcohol, tobacco or automobiles. I tried to dig a little deeper and after further review, I think I may have come up short on the pool thing. You get my point though, I hope. We do, in fact, tolerate a lot of behavior that is far more dangerous, percentage wise, than gun ownership.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

 

I'm a big boy who has never considered reporting anyone or flexing my internet muscles that I can rally a group of people to get somebody banned, so go for it.

Huh?

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Huh?

Jerry's still being a butthurt little biatch over RP's permabannoration

[jerryskids 7,062]

Huh?

 

 

Jerry's still being a butthurt little biatch over RP's permabannoration

 

Actually my response was describing Newbie's behavior today. Not surprised it was lost on you two.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

 

 

 

Actually my response was describing Newbie's behavior today. Not surprised it was lost on you two.

Oh, my mistake. Haven't been here hardly at all today

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Oh, my mistake. Haven't been here hardly at all today

I was notified by Newbie that I'm on his watch list and that I may face banishment. He says I'm a board bully and you're one of my victims.