Now that the transcripts have been released for deflategate.....

[Herbivore 1,134]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201411300gnb.htm

 

Anyone who watched that game saw them pick NE apart and keep Tom from doing much all game.

 

Green Bay outplayed the Pats, but Drobs is right, you're a clown.

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201411300gnb.htm

 

Anyone who watched that game saw them pick NE apart and keep Tom from doing much all game.

And the Packers beat, no blew out the Giants in Giants stadium in 2007 and 2011. You're not doing this very good.

[mighty_thor 115]

 

So Im supposed to be jealous of that?

Nope...still not.

Back to back HOF caliber QBs....pretty much happy with who has been QBing the Packers for the last 23 years or so.

You should be happy but it's natural to be a little envious of a QB who is 21-8 in the playoffs and has won 4 Super Bowls when your two great qbs combined are 18-15 in the playoffs with 2 rings. You are looking backwards at 23 years and no matter who you think was the greatest QB of all time, there is no doubt that Tom Brady is the most accomplished QB ever.

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

You should be happy but it's natural to be a little envious of a QB who is 21-8 in the playoffs and has won 4 Super Bowls when your two great qbs combined are 18-15 in the playoffs with 2 rings. You are looking backwards at 23 years and no matter who you think was the greatest QB of all time, there is no doubt that Tom Brady is the most accomplished QB ever.

I would agree with all of that. But slow was walking around thinking he was in the midst of a dynasty when in actuality it's been a series of under achievements and choke jobs. Thought his team was elite but it ain't.

[parrot 789]

Someone should have been shoving lumps of coal up McCarthy's ass during the 4th qtr of last year's NFCCG. After the game you'd have had diamonds.

[Sho Nuff 720]

you're a clown

Thanks for the analysis.

So glad you came back to offer nothing at all other than trolling.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Green Bay outplayed the Pats, but Drobs is right, you're a clown.

Dribs is never right about anything.

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Dribs is never right about anything.

the standards for "destroyed" are evidently much higher in new England than green bay, idiot

[Sho Nuff 720]

the standards for "destroyed" are evidently much higher in new England than green bay, idiot

NE was never in the game. They were beaten badly. Sorry you can't accept that

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NE was never in the game. They were beaten badly. Sorry you can't accept that

I'll take "what are things an idiot would say" for 3 billion Alex

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

NE was never in the game. They were beaten badly. Sorry you can't accept that

And it was meaningful as a pre-season victory. Pats got home field and a ring. The Pack got to go on the road and choke instead of at the frozen tundra, like before.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I'll take "what are things an idiot would say" for 3 billion Alex

 

Nah...similar to how they beat up the Chiefs this past week.

A late score to make it look close does not mean the game was ever close.

 

Anyone who watched that game knew it wasn't close.

But you can keep trying to pretend.

[Sho Nuff 720]

And it was meaningful as a pre-season victory. Pats got home field and a ring. The Pack got to go on the road and choke instead of at the frozen tundra, like before.

 

Which has nothing to do with the point I made...but glad you could chime in.

[parrot 789]

NE was never in the game. They were beaten badly. Sorry you can't accept that

 

Lead never got past 9 and it was a 2 point game in the 4th qtr. Ended up 5.

[Kanil 520]

 

they don't go .500 or under 4 times in 12 years.

 

Giants fans were calling for his head at least 2 seasons out of those 12

 

even McCarthy has only had 2 such seasons

Good coaches cant go .500 or less 4 times in 12 years? Your words, not mine.

 

So what if a coach went say 6-10 (.375), 7-9 (.438), 7-9 (.438), 11-5 (.688), 5-11 (.313), 5-11 (.313) in a 6 year stretch?

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

Ok, so no excuses this year. The division stinks, they have a 3 game lead on Seattle, nothing coming out of the NFC east to be concerned about. So right now it's the Cardinals and the Panthers/Falcons. GB should beat any of them at home. They have the best QB and the best coach according to Slow Nuff. And seeing as they beat the Pats last year, a championship shouldn't be a problem. Get er done. Or Mc Carthy should go.

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

Good coaches cant go .500 or less 4 times in 12 years? Your words, not mine.

 

So what if a coach went say 6-10 (.375), 7-9 (.438), 7-9 (.438), 11-5 (.688), 5-11 (.313), 5-11 (.313) in a 6 year stretch?

Do tell.......

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

 

Which has nothing to do with the point I made...but glad you could chime in.

Sure it does. There was no big time pressure in that game. And the Pack rolled. Way to go.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Lead never got past 9 and it was a 2 point game in the 4th qtr. Ended up 5.

 

Looking at stats only is fun.

As I said when I posted the link...anyone who watched the game saw what happened.

HTH

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

Why the Fock would anyone bring up a non conference regular season game that had zero impact on anyone's season? Oh, because the thought about what happened in the playoffs is sad. Is it dawning on Slow yet that the football team he roots for isn't what he thought it was?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Ok, so no excuses this year. The division stinks, they have a 3 game lead on Seattle, nothing coming out of the NFC east to be concerned about. So right now it's the Cardinals and the Panthers/Falcons. GB should beat any of them at home. They have the best QB and the best coach according to Slow Nuff. And seeing as they beat the Pats last year, a championship shouldn't be a problem. Get er done. Or Mc Carthy should go.

 

Best coach? Among that group yes.

Outside of BB, he is up there with every other coach.

QB...yes, the best right now.

Nice parsing and spin of what I actually said Recliner Bastard.

 

Shouldn't be a problem? Not quite. Injuries have already been happening and can happen more.

Any more injuries on the Oline, to Cobb or Lacy, or to Rodgers would make it hard.

Same on D...injuries to a key guy like Matthews and its nearly over.

And the D is not great, can be good, but they are not great and could make it hard even for someone as good as Rodgers.

 

Should they be considered a top contender? Yes, as long as #12 is under center and healthy, they will be considered so.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Why the Fock would anyone bring up a non conference regular season game that had zero impact on anyone's season? Oh, because the thought what happened in the playoffs is sad. Is it dawning on Slow yet that the football team he roots for isn't what he thought it was?

 

Because we were talking about how they might fare against NE (or i mentioned as much) and that is all we had to go on.

 

Football team I root for is what I think it is/was.

A contender with possibly the best QB in the game right now as long as he is healthy.

A team that is one of the most successful over the last 20+ years.

 

pretty much a team and fans that have nothing to be jealous of the Patriots....nor the focking Giants.

 

HTH

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

 

Best coach? Among that group yes.

Outside of BB, he is up there with every other coach.

QB...yes, the best right now.

Nice parsing and spin of what I actually said Recliner Bastard.

 

Shouldn't be a problem? Not quite. Injuries have already been happening and can happen more.

Any more injuries on the Oline, to Cobb or Lacy, or to Rodgers would make it hard.

Same on D...injuries to a key guy like Matthews and its nearly over.

And the D is not great, can be good, but they are not great and could make it hard even for someone as good as Rodgers.

 

Should they be considered a top contender? Yes, as long as #12 is under center and healthy, they will be considered so.

Hate to bring it up but....I remember a team that lost its pro bowl QB and leading Rusher one

Year. All they did was go in to dethrone the two time defending super bowl champions and then win the Super Bowl. If MCCarthy is so great he will overcome injuries. It's been done before. And it will be done again

[parrot 789]

 

Looking at stats only is fun.

As I said when I posted the link...anyone who watched the game saw what happened.

HTH

 

I watched and saw exactly what happened; the Pack outplayed the Pats all game long but allowed them to hang around, to where it could have gone either way at the end. Sounds kinda like the Seahawks game, don't it?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Hate to bring it up but....I remember a team that lost its pro bowl QB and leading Rusher one

Year. All they did was go in to dethrone the two time defending super bowl champions and then win the Super Bowl. If MCCarthy is so great he will overcome injuries. It's been done before. And it will be done again

 

yada yada yada...you keep acting like I think McCarthy is some all time great.

Just because I said he is a damn good coach and up there with what is in the league right now.

In this era, with what they have invested in Rodgers...you can't lose such a thing and expect to win.

With what % they have of their cap in Rodgers, the Oline, and mostly on O...they can't afford to lose their big weapon on D in Matthews.

Can they survive without Bulaga like they have? Sure.

If Linsley goes out at C..they may be ok with Tretter. But lose another tackle or Lang or Sitton...would be hard if its for long.

 

Similar on D.

Lose another backup LB or Perry or Neal...maybe they handle that.

Lose Peppers...even then they may be ok.

Lose Raji right now or Shields or Matthews...its over on D. Makes Rodgers and the O have to do too much to just think they will win.

Still can? Sure...but percentages obviously go down significantly with those types of hits.

 

They have already lost the starting RT for a few more weeks and their #1 WR.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

I watched and saw exactly what happened; the Pack outplayed the Pats all game long but allowed them to hang around, to where it could have gone either way at the end. Sounds kinda like the Seahawks game, don't it?

 

True...and that is something they have done is let teams hang around at times. Part of that is that the D can be very good at times, but overall is not great.

Seahawks game was a combo of ridiculous things having to happen. Odds are, we don't ever see that again.

You have a limited mobility at QB, bonehead play by Bostick, bonehead play by HaHa...along with some questionable other plays during the game (and yes, some of that is on McCarty as well as other coaches).

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True...and that is something they have done is let teams hang around at times. Part of that is that the D can be very good at times, but overall is not great.

Seahawks game was a combo of ridiculous things having to happen. Odds are, we don't ever see that again.

You have a limited mobility at QB, bonehead play by Bostick, bonehead play by HaHa...along with some questionable other plays during the game (and yes, some of that is on McCarty as well as other coaches).

and that defines "destroyed" to green bay fans ? Or just the mentally retarded ones like you ?

[TD Ryan2 316]

I remember when beating the Yankees was a huge deal for Sox fans.

It's like that now for Packer and Giants fans with the Patriots.

 

NE sets the standard for excellence. Everyone measures themselves by how they fare vs. NE and when they win, even in pre-season, it's a memorable accomplishment.

 

Same for Brady - he is the standard of excellence by which all his contemporaries are measured.

Brady vs Manning

Brady vs Brees

Brady vs Roethlisburger

Brady vs Rodgers

Brady vs Luck

 

... and on and on. The constant measure of greatness is Brady and The New England Patriots

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

I remember when beating the Yankees was a huge deal for Sox fans.

It's like that now for Packer and Giants fans with the Patriots.

 

NE sets the standard for excellence. Everyone measures themselves by how they fare vs. NE and when they win, even in pre-season, it's a memorable accomplishment.

 

Same for Brady - he is the standard of excellence by which all his contemporaries are measured.

Brady vs Manning

Brady vs Brees

Brady vs Roethlisburger

Brady vs Rodgers

Brady vs Luck

 

... and on and on. The constant measure of greatness is Brady and The New England Patriots

The Giants are 3-0 in their last 3 VS NE. Old hat

[Sho Nuff 720]

Packers are 1-0 vs the pats in the Super Bowl...zero comparison to Sox and Yankees.

[Djgb13 2,339]

Even if you don't like Brady you gotta admit the time from when he gets the ball to the time he throws it is impressive. Accurate, quick throws that are almost impossible to defend

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

Even if you don't like Brady you gotta admit the time from when he gets the ball to the time he throws it is impressive. Accurate, quick throws that are almost impossible to defend

He has made stars out of two small fast white boys, so I give him props on that.

[Djgb13 2,339]

He has made stars out of two small fast white boys, so I give him props on that.

NE's secret weapon. Small, fast white boys who are possession receivers

[edjr 6,580]

He has made stars out of two small fast white boys, so I give him props on that.

 

One who never played WR until he showed up to training camp his 1st year for the NFL

[NewbieJr 541]

Good coaches cant go .500 or less 4 times in 12 years? Your words, not mine.

 

So what if a coach went say 6-10 (.375), 7-9 (.438), 7-9 (.438), 11-5 (.688), 5-11 (.313), 5-11 (.313) in a 6 year stretch?

yuck. Horrible coach, horrible record. I imagine that guy is coaching some high school JV team now.

[Herbivore 1,134]

Its funny that people look at Belichicks time with the Browns negatively.

 

granted this is from the Pats website.

Prior to joining the Patriots as an assistant, Belichick spent five seasons (1991-95) rebuilding the Cleveland Browns, whose 3-13 finish the year prior to his arrival was, up until that point, the worst in the history of the franchise. By 1994, the Browns were again one of NFL's best teams, boasting the second-best record in the AFC. Belichick's first head coaching opportunity came following the 1990 season, when his defensive efforts with the New York Giants helped claim a second Super Bowl title in five years. At the age of 38, he became the NFL's youngest head coach. In his first season, Belichick began the rebuilding process by restoring the foundation of the aging squad he inherited. In 1991, the Browns improved to 6-10 and played in 11 games that were decided by a touchdown or less.

Following back-to-back 7-9 campaigns in 1992 and 1993, the Browns improved to 11-5 in 1994, a mark that is still tied for the second highest victory total in the 61-year history of the Browns franchise. The 1994 squad was defined by its defense, which allowed a league-low 204 points. In their return to the playoffs, the Browns defeated the Patriots, 20-13, in a first-round Wild Card game on New Year's Day 1995.

The 1995 season was disrupted by the mid-season announcement that the Cleveland Browns franchise would be moved to Baltimore at the conclusion of the campaign. The announcement caused an undeniable mid-season distraction contributing to a 5-11 finish. Belichick did not accompany the franchise's move to Baltimore after the 1995 season.

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

 

One who never played WR until he showed up to training camp his 1st year for the NFL

He didn't do much for Chad Johnson though.

[edjr 6,580]

He didn't do much for Chad Johnson though.

 

Other than Moss and Lafell, there aren't many established WRs that did much with New England

[mighty_thor 115]

 

Other than Moss and Lafell, there aren't many established WRs that did much with New England

Yeah, Joey Galloway and Brandon Lloyd were a couple of other busts. It takes a certain amount of smarts to play receiver with the patriots and Brady won't throw to you unless he trusts that you will run the routes correctly. Johnson, Galloway and Lloyd were on the tail end of their careers as well. Moss by the way was called the "smartest receiver he has ever been around" by Belichick.

[edjr 6,580]

I had Brady to Moss in 2007, I remember every one of these.