Executive Order

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Like I said before, I have two shotguns that I use for duck hunting and shooting clay. My wife will sometimes keep one of the guns in the bedroom when I'm traveling, which I obviously am not particularly fond of. But I asked her if she does feel the need to keep it in the bedroom: I told her of a burglar/crackhead gets through the alarm, the dog, and is still coming into the bedroom (don't give a ###### about my TVs and stuff). Blast one shell into the ceiling, if that door still opens after all that... Go for center mass.

 

Sounds like something Joe Biden would advise.

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I know they wouldn't go for it. Just saying I'm not sure HIPAA would be the sticking point since a potential gun owner could voluntarily waive his HIPAA rights as a condition of ownership. My point is that people voluntarily waive their privacy rights all the time.

 

Anyway I agree that all gun purchases should go through a background check. I am not sure I agree executive order is the way to go about it.

You can designate anyone to access your medical records, but I am unaware of carte blanche access for reasons other than treatment, payment or law enforcement purposes. The latter is the closest to what you describe, but deals primarily with crime investigation, not prevention. Can't imagine the courts waiving the law to allow exercise of a constitutional right, as it seems pretty coercive.

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You clearly do. Virtually every post you make drips with fear and irrational anger.

And denial, like the rest of the the most vocal gun proponents.

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Like I said before, I have two shotguns that I use for duck hunting and shooting clay. My wife will sometimes keep one of the guns in the bedroom when I'm traveling, which I obviously am not particularly fond of. But I asked her if she does feel the need to keep it in the bedroom: I told her of a burglar/crackhead gets through the alarm, the dog, and is still coming into the bedroom (don't give a ###### about my TVs and stuff). Blast one shell into the ceiling, if that door still opens after all that... Go for center mass.

Why aren't you fond of your wife snuggling up to a shotgun in your absence? If she knows how to use it, shouldn't it make her safer?

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You can designate anyone to access your medical records, but I am unaware of carte blanche access for reasons other than treatment, payment or law enforcement purposes. The latter is the closest to what you describe, but deals primarily with crime investigation, not prevention. Can't imagine the courts waiving the law to allow exercise of a constitutional right, as it seems pretty coercive.

 

I'm really not advocating establishment of some kind of database for this purpose, but I don't see how waiving your 4th amendment rights as a condition of say riding Amtrak is any more intrusive than waiving your HIPAA rights as a condition of buying a gun. I guess you could argue that gun ownership unlike travel is a constitutional right, but I'd argue that a "well-regulated" militia consist only of persons who meet some minimum threshold of mental health.

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I agree with you based on your situation.

 

I live in the middle of a 30 acre property. I have very different concerns. Wouldn't you agree?

So are you more or less likely to be a victim of a crime necessitating a gun for defense?

 

I'll concede country folk are more likely to enjoy killing animals with weapons, but the safety angle is probably more inane the further you get from humanity.

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Why aren't you fond of your wife snuggling up to a shotgun in your absence? If she knows how to use it, shouldn't it make her safer?

Cause we already have safeguards on the house, if it makes her feel safer, it's okay.

 

I'm really Indifferent about guns, I don't particularly care for them, but if you want hem, go ahead

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See I think that's a horrible way of looking at things, but I agree you have that right to deal with that issue the way you want.

I'm just tried of having people try to tell me I have to jump through 100 hoops to exercise my choice.

Why is it horrible? Seems pretty realistic to me.

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So are you more or less likely to be a victim of a crime necessitating a gun for defense?

 

I'll concede country folk are more likely to enjoy killing animals with weapons, but the safety angle is probably more inane the further you get from humanity.

I don't expect to ever be robbed. But, just in case, I am prepared. Also, I've mentioned before most of my arsenal is for investment purpose and hunting.

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Cause we already have safeguards on the house, if it makes her feel safer, it's okay.

 

I'm really Indifferent about guns, I don't particularly care for them, but if you want hem, go ahead

It's not OK if her perception of safety actually creates more of a threat to her wellbeing.

 

I actually share your overall feeling about guns, but find the pro-gun rhetoric ridiculous.

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I don't expect to ever be robbed. But, just in case, I am prepared. Also, I've mentioned before most of my arsenal is for investment purpose and hunting.

How good are guns as an investment?

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Yeah, Wayne LaPierre is just the guy you want for "the truth" about anything gun related.

What part did he lie about???

 

He is certainly MUCH more trustworthy than the President. Then again, that is not saying much since Obama seems allergic to the truth.

 

So tell me which part is untrue, THANKS.

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How good are guns as an investment?

Very. As an alternative to traditional investment, I'd say guns hold their value very well. And often appreciate in value like any other item where their is a limited supply.

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Very. As an alternative to traditional investment, I'd say guns hold their value very well. And often appreciate in value like any other item where their is a limited supply.

They are certainly a better investment than cars

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They are certainly a better investment than cars

Maybe, the right classic can appreciate in value similarly or better than a gun. Similarly a base midel gun which us used may depreciate in value.

 

I do get your point though. I'm surprises me Penn was unaware of gun collecting as a form of investment.

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Maybe, the right classic can appreciate in value similarly or better than a gun. Similarly a base midel gun which us used may depreciate in value.

 

I do get your point though. I'm surprises me Penn was unaware of gun collecting as a form of investment.

Of course classic cars are the exception. However going to the lot right now and buying a car the depreciation value is ridiculous

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Of course classic cars are the exception. However going to the lot right now and buying a car the depreciation value is ridiculous

Do you spend a lot of money storing your cars?

[Djgb13 2,339]

Do you spend a lot of money storing your cars?

Please let me know how the whole being a fake cop and a fake marine thing is going. Valor stealing POS

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Of course classic cars are the exception. However going to the lot right now and buying a car the depreciation value is ridiculous

Depending on the car

In 2005-6 you could get a Ford GT40 brand new for approx. $150,000 or less. Depending on which model you bought and how well taken care of it currently is, they are going for $300-500K +

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Maybe, the right classic can appreciate in value similarly or better than a gun. Similarly a base midel gun which us used may depreciate in value.

 

I do get your point though. I'm surprises me Penn was unaware of gun collecting as a form of investment.

I know people collect all sorts of things. I was just wondering what kind of return one would expect from such an investment?

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Depending on the car

There's always exceptions but in general a car depreciates in value and isn't necessarily a good investment.

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Very. As an alternative to traditional investment, I'd say guns hold their value very well. And often appreciate in value like any other item where their is a limited supply.

So gun control would be favorable for investors?

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There's always exceptions but in general a car depreciates in value and isn't necessarily a good investment.

Acreed. 100%

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Please let me know how the whole being a fake cop and a fake marine thing is going. Valor stealing POS

Capitalize Marine when you write it, boy.

[Djgb13 2,339]

Capitalize Marine when you write it, boy.

When talking with you there's no reason to capitalize anything since its stolen valor.

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When talking with you there's no reason to capitalize anything since its stolen valor.

Disrespectful

[Djgb13 2,339]

Disrespectful

Fake marine valor stealing POS

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Fake marine valor stealing POS

Sorry Devin

[Djgb13 2,339]

Sorry Devin

Don't pull sorry when you don't mean it. Valor stealers are scum. So go crawl in a hole

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Don't pull sorry when you don't mean it. Valor stealers are scum. So go crawl in a hole

You're right Devin

[Djgb13 2,339]

You're right Devin

Leave MB. Don't return here. Valor stealers are the worst and you are by far the worst scum here

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Parts of stolen valor is you have to prove how they benefited from the lie, like a free meal or whatever, freedom of speech protects that.

 

Since he has no qualities or hasn't benefited anyone by being here, it can't be stolen valor.

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Parts of stolen valor is you have to prove how they benefited from the lie, like a free meal or whatever, freedom of speech protects that.

 

Since he has no qualities or hasn't benefited anyone by being here, it can't be stolen valor.

Anyone who lies about being in the service is stealing the valor. It may not be tangible because respect isn't something tangible. So the respect coming from serving when he didn't is stolen valor. Which he is scum for

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Parts of stolen valor is you have to prove how they benefited from the lie, like a free meal or whatever, freedom of speech protects that.

 

Since he has no qualities or hasn't benefited anyone by being here, it can't be stolen valor.

Plus I never claimed I was in combat.

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Anyone who lies about being in the service is stealing the valor. It may not be tangible because respect isn't something tangible. So the respect coming from serving when he didn't is stolen valor. Which he is scum for

And what do you base you accusations on?

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Plus I never claimed I was in combat.

Now you're full of , it isn't a combat issue, it's if you served issue.

 

You are a fake

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Now you're full of ######, it isn't a combat issue, it's if you served issue.

 

You are a fake

It wasn't really an issue when I was in, so forgive me for not knowing the ins and outs. It became an issue post 9/11

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Now you're full of ######, it isn't a combat issue, it's if you served issue.

 

You are a fake

Haha busted!!!! It's not a combat issue of stealing valor d1ckhead. It's stealing valor when serving. This man has no DD214 because he has never been in!!!

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Leave MB. Don't return here. Valor stealers are the worst and you are by far the worst scum here

 

Funny coming from a fake doctor. Just saying.