Executive Order

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

I'm just glad gun-wielding tough guys like you, MB, BLS and tubby are around to keep the rest of us safe.

h

 

Don't go lumping me in with them. I'm for the recent gun control. My guns aren't even in my house. Too many kids running around here.

[Djgb13 2,339]

Ok. You said a variety and can't name one. Why should I look it up when I think people on disability for mental health shouldn't have a gun? I'm not going to agree, so what's the point? Go away if you can't back up your statement.

Here's one for you MB I had already given you an example of a mental health issue. Shore gave one (anxiety). Yet you tried being a d1ck about. Unprovoked. I tried holding a rational conversation with you yet you go and act like a d1ck.

 

FYI this is the Executice Order thread HTH

[penultimatestraw 473]

I don't carry my gun around with me. It's at my house safe and sound. I don't feel the need to carry it. However, I will say that firing one is very fun unless, like I said, you're a complete poosie

Meh. I've fired a gun plenty of times. I prefer activities which require more athleticism than pulling a trigger. Like baking. Did you know there is a pound of butter in pound cake?!?

[Djgb13 2,339]

Meh. I've fired a gun plenty of times. I prefer activities which require more athleticism than pulling a trigger.

You sure don't act like it. And I'll admit I like using a bow a lot better than a gun since it does require more skill. Not as good with it as a friend of mine who started in bow competitions but I'm a decent shot with one

[penultimatestraw 473]

You sure don't act like it. And I'll admit I like using a bow a lot better than a gun since it does require more skill. Not as good with it as a friend of mine who started in bow competitions but I'm a decent shot with one

How does one act tough?

[Djgb13 2,339]

How does one act tough?

I don't know. You tell me

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Here's one for you MB I had already given you an example of a mental health issue. Shore gave one (anxiety). Yet you tried being a d1ck about. Unprovoked. I tried holding a rational conversation with you yet you go and act like a d1ck.

 

FYI this is the Executice Order thread HTH

I told strike he was right. What exactly did i say to you that bothered you? I did get impatient when you either couldn't understand it or were purposely being obtuse, and told you to go away. Sorry if that hurt your feelings

[Djgb13 2,339]

I told strike he was right. What exactly did unsay to you that bothered you? I did get impatient when you either couldn't understand it or were purposely being obtuse, and told you to go away. Sorry if that hurt your feelings

I understood completely yet when I GAVE you an example you ignored it. Then you kept asking so I said google them cause there's so many that I can't list them all. It's not that hard to comprehend.

[penultimatestraw 473]

I don't know. You tell me

One acts tough by calling others names and bragging about inconsequential things like drinking, lifting weights, and gun ownership. Being tough is defined by actually enduring hardship.

 

Strangely enough, most tough people don't act that way. And vice versa.

[Djgb13 2,339]

One acts tough by calling others names and bragging about inconsequential things like drinking, lifting weights, and gun ownership. Being tough is defined by actually enduring hardship.

So...are you saying you're tough then?

[penultimatestraw 473]

So...are you saying you're tough then?

I'm saying the nonsense being spewed by the folks calling names doesn't make them any tougher than those they insult.

[Djgb13 2,339]

I'm saying the nonsense being spewed by the folks calling names doesn't make them any tougher than those they insult.

I agree.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

I'm saying the nonsense being spewed by the folks calling names doesn't make them any tougher than those they insult.

I think you're an interesting guy and I'm glad you're around. I feel you hold back and have a lot to share. I wish you would not hold back.

[tubby_mcgee 701]

I'm just glad gun-wielding tough guys like you, MB, BLS and tubby are around to keep the rest of us safe.

 

 

My guns won't keep you safe. Me...yes. You...no.

 

What keeps the "president" safe?

 

I wonder if Obama wants to lead by example? Say...perhaps...all of his Secret Service should put down their guns. Just protect the president with a cell phone. Call the cops if things start going bad. Maybe a can of mace. LOL..

 

How would Obama answer that? "Would you like your Secret Service and anyone who protects you to get rid of their firearms?"

 

I can promise he'd stutter around like a fat lipped somalian retard if he weren't able to prepare for the question ahead of time. He'd be faced with either looking like the biggest retarded monkey's ass ever, and see his entire argument that he's been shedding tears over go down the tubes, or he'd know his his secret service was now useless, leaving him in a situation we all know he wouldn't want to be in.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

 

 

My guns won't keep you safe. Me...yes. You...no.

 

I wonder if Obama wants to lead by example? Say...perhaps...all of his Secret Service should put down their guns. Just protect the president with a cell phone. Call the cops if things start going bad. Maybe a can of mace. LOL..

 

How would Obama answer that? "Would you like your Secret Service and anyone who protects you to get rid of their firearms?"

 

I can promise he'd stutter around like a fat lipped somalian retard.

I dont see anything that is being done with this executive order that a law abiding citizen has to worry about as far as purchasing a gun. If you have a mental health issue you may be prohibited. Is there something else in this particular action that will infringe on U.S. citizens exercising their 2a rights?

[penultimatestraw 473]

 

 

My guns won't keep you safe. Me...yes. You...no.

 

What keeps the "president" safe?

 

I wonder if Obama wants to lead by example? Say...perhaps...all of his Secret Service should put down their guns. Just protect the president with a cell phone. Call the cops if things start going bad. Maybe a can of mace. LOL..

 

How would Obama answer that? "Would you like your Secret Service and anyone who protects you to get rid of their firearms?"

 

I can promise he'd stutter around like a fat lipped somalian retard if he weren't able to prepare for the question ahead of time. He'd be faced with either looking like the biggest retarded monkey's ass ever, and see his entire argument that he's been shedding tears over go down the tubes, or he'd know his his secret service was now useless, leaving him in a situation we all know he wouldn't want to be in.

Hate to burst your bubble, but threats to the President's safety are real - unlike those imagined by almost all of your gun-toting brethren. In fact, you are probably less safe because of your guns.

 

Personally I'm not worried about my safety, nor that of my loved ones. I don't live in fear. Doesn't mean I'm flippant about our wellbeing; on the contrary, I do just about everything I can to maximize living as long as possible. Guns don't add to that equation.

[penultimatestraw 473]

I agree.

Only poosays agree.

[penultimatestraw 473]

I think you're an interesting guy and I'm glad you're around. I feel you hold back and have a lot to share. I wish you would not hold back.

Sharing is for poosays too!

[BLS 314]

I dont see anything that is being done with this executive order that a law abiding citizen has to worry about as far as purchasing a gun. If you have a mental health issue you may be prohibited. Is there something else in this particular action that will infringe on U.S. citizens exercising their 2a rights?

 

Define mental health issue.

[MDC 7,888]

I doubt current gun owners/NRA would ever concede to such an invasion of privacy. Many of them don't even want to register their guns, for fear of confiscation. Why would they allow Big Brother access to all their medical records? Plus, if such a process were ever implemented , it would deter some people with mental illness from seeking help.

I know they wouldn't go for it. Just saying I'm not sure HIPAA would be the sticking point since a potential gun owner could voluntarily waive his HIPAA rights as a condition of ownership. My point is that people voluntarily waive their privacy rights all the time.

 

Anyway I agree that all gun purchases should go through a background check. I am not sure I agree executive order is the way to go about it.

[tubby_mcgee 701]

Hate to burst your bubble, but threats to the President's safety are real - unlike those imagined by almost all of your gun-toting brethren. In fact, you are probably less safe because of your guns.

 

Personally I'm not worried about my safety, or that of my loved ones. I don't live in fear. Doesn't mean I'm flippant about our wellbeing; on the contrary, I do just about everything I can to maximize living as long as possible. Guns don't add to that equation.

 

Threats are real? But why do they need guns?

 

I don't live in fear. I'm just not afraid of guns like the inner city folk. I wasn't raised like that.

 

And if, faced with someone blowing your wife and kids faces off and repainting your living room curtains pink, ya gonna call the cops?

 

Is it likely someone breaks in? Nope. But it's not a risk I'm willing to take. Just like with fire and fire alarms/fire extinguishers. Plus, I use my guns for hunting.

 

I think its funny we have people that will actually argue against one of the principals this country was founded on (2nd amendment).

 

[JTB 52]

Threats are real? But why do they need guns?

I don't live in fear. I'm just not afraid of guns like the inner city folk. I wasn't raised like that.

And if, faced with someone blowing your wife and kids faces off and repainting your living room curtains pink, ya gonna call the cops?

Is it likely someone breaks in? Nope. But it's not a risk I'm willing to take. Just like with fire and fire alarms/fire extinguishers. Plus, I use my guns for hunting.

 

I think its funny we have people that will actually argue against one of the principals this country was founded on (2nd amendment).

 

I'm sure Penn will argue, correctly I may add, owning a fire alarm does NOT increase the chance of having a fire. Where as, having a gun could incite a gun incident.

 

I am willing to live with the, the unlikely chance, "the gun could."

[MDC 7,888]

I'm sure Penn will argue, correctly I may add, owning a fire alarm does NOT increase the chance of having a fire. Where as, having a gun could incite a gun incident.

 

I am willing to live with the, the unlikely chance, "the gun could."

As somebody who lives in a big city I can tell you in the unlikely event that some crack head breaks into my house before I can call the cops he can take my laptop or whatever else of value he can find and leave.

 

My dog is almost certainly going to notify me before anyone who gets in. If somebody does get in I will almost certainly have called the cops. And even if not, the intruder will almost certainly be looking for money, not somebody to hurt.

 

Not knowing if the intruder is armed, why would I engage in a firefight in my own house with my family sleeping nearby? My laptop or whatever isn't worth the risk. Take it, my insurance will buy me a new one.

 

These scenarios about a crazed maniac breaking in just to murder your family are so rare even here in a big city, the risk of keeping a gun around with kids in the house to me just isn't worth it.

[Mungwater 601]

As somebody who lives in a big city I can tell you in the unlikely event that some crack head breaks into my house before I can call the cops he can take my laptop or whatever else of value he can find and leave.

 

My dog is almost certainly going to notify me before anyone who gets in. If somebody does get in I will almost certainly have called the cops. And even if not, the intruder will almost certainly be looking for money, not somebody to hurt.

 

Not knowing if the intruder is armed, why would I engage in a firefight in my own house with my family sleeping nearby? My laptop or whatever isn't worth the risk. Take it, my insurance will buy me a new one.

 

These scenarios about a crazed maniac breaking in just to murder your family are so rare even here in a big city, the risk of keeping a gun around with kids in the house to me just isn't worth it.

Like I said before, I have two shotguns that I use for duck hunting and shooting clay. My wife will sometimes keep one of the guns in the bedroom when I'm traveling, which I obviously am not particularly fond of. But I asked her if she does feel the need to keep it in the bedroom: I told her of a burglar/crackhead gets through the alarm, the dog, and is still coming into the bedroom (don't give a about my TVs and stuff). Blast one shell into the ceiling, if that door still opens after all that... Go for center mass.

[JTB 52]

As somebody who lives in a big city I can tell you in the unlikely event that some crack head breaks into my house before I can call the cops he can take my laptop or whatever else of value he can find and leave.

My dog is almost certainly going to notify me before anyone who gets in. If somebody does get in I will almost certainly have called the cops. And even if not, the intruder will almost certainly be looking for money, not somebody to hurt.

Not knowing if the intruder is armed, why would I engage in a firefight in my own house with my family sleeping nearby? My laptop or whatever isn't worth the risk. Take it, my insurance will buy me a new one.

These scenarios about a crazed maniac breaking in just to murder your family are so rare even here in a big city, the risk of keeping a gun around with kids in the house to me just isn't worth it.

I agree with you based on your situation.

 

I live in the middle of a 30 acre property. I have very different concerns. Wouldn't you agree?

[KSB2424 3,173]

One acts tough by calling others names and bragging about inconsequential things like drinking, lifting weights, and gun ownership. Being tough is defined by actually enduring hardship.

 

Strangely enough, most tough people don't act that way. And vice versa.

 

I couldn't let this go without a.....

 

[IGotWorms 4,063]

I don't think the crying was necessarily fake. This is a man who spent a lot of time with every family of the Sandy Hook victims. People who had very suddenly lost their precious little child, sister, brother to a horrible and senseless act of utter depravity. Can you imagine what that was like? The emotional toll it would take? Certainly on the victims first and foremost, but to actually come face to face with those people and attempt to offer them some measure of comfort and sympathy in such an awful time?

 

That said I do wish he would've held it back, because he is the leader of the free world and all.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

 

 

My guns won't keep you safe. Me...yes. You...no.

 

What keeps the "president" safe?

 

I wonder if Obama wants to lead by example? Say...perhaps...all of his Secret Service should put down their guns. Just protect the president with a cell phone. Call the cops if things start going bad. Maybe a can of mace. LOL..

 

How would Obama answer that? "Would you like your Secret Service and anyone who protects you to get rid of their firearms?"

 

I can promise he'd stutter around like a fat lipped somalian retard if he weren't able to prepare for the question ahead of time. He'd be faced with either looking like the biggest retarded monkey's ass ever, and see his entire argument that he's been shedding tears over go down the tubes, or he'd know his his secret service was now useless, leaving him in a situation we all know he wouldn't want to be in.

 

I hate to break it to you tubs, but you aren't the focking president.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

 

I don't live in fear.

 

 

You clearly do. Virtually every post you make drips with fear and irrational anger.

[Mungwater 601]

I don't think the crying was necessarily fake. This is a man who spent a lot of time with every family of the Sandy Hook victims. People that had lost their precious little child to a horrible and senseless act of utter depravity. Can you imagine what that was like? The emotional toll it would take? Certainly on the victims first and foremost, but to actually come face to face with those people and attempt to offer them some measure of comfort and sympathy in such an awful time?

 

That said I do wish he would've held it back, because he is the leader of the free world and all.

I'm pretty sure it was fake. It just looked incredibly forced.

 

If a shooting that happened over 1.5 years ago was the main driver, do it then. Don't go on bear grylls and comedians in car getting coffee with Jerry Seinfeld.

 

It was just a show.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

I'm pretty sure it was fake. It just looked incredibly forced.

 

If a shooting that happened over 1.5 years ago was the main driver, do it then. Don't go on bear grylls and comedians in car getting coffee with Jerry Seinfeld.

 

It was just a show.

 

Disagree. He did want to do it then but Congress would not act. So then he had to build support for an executive order. I think he's had his eye on the prize the whole time and it seems like Sandy Hook really had a huge personal effect on him. How could it not?

[Mungwater 601]

 

Disagree. He did want to do it then but Congress would not act. So then he had to build support for an executive order. I think he's had his eye on the prize the whole time and it seems like Sandy Hook really had a huge personal effect on him. How could it not?

That's why I think it's bullshit. It effected everyone with a pulse. Instead of demanding a solution then, he waited 1.5 years.

 

It was all a show.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

That's why I think it's bullshit. It effected everyone with a pulse. Instead of demanding a solution then, he waited 1.5 years.

 

It was all a show.

 

Were you there with the family's victims? I know it effected us all but I think you're really underselling what Obummer did here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/26/the-presidents-devotional_n_4158485.html

[Mungwater 601]

 

Were you there with the family's victims? I know it effected us all but I think you're really underselling what Obummer did here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/26/the-presidents-devotional_n_4158485.html

Tell you the truth, I don't put any stock into those, just like the stories of Bush in the hospital with all the soldiers in secret.

 

I guess the process is such a sham it made me question almost everything.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Yeah the crying was pretty dumb

Works just likes to argue. Probably because they won't let him at his lawyer job.

[GobbleDog 1,010]

Within a year or two after this amazing law, US gun violence rates will drop to first world country levels for the first time in history! Gun crime, gun accidents, gun suicides will all be reduced to nothing! It's gonna be great!

 

Oh wait.... it'll have no effect whatsoever. Maybe in 100+ years they'll finally ban commercial sales. Til then, enjoy the carnage.

[gocolts 300]

Now, for the truth. This is all for show, just as several have stated in this thread. This does not even address the real problem.

 

[JTB 52]

Now, for the truth. This is all for show, just as several have stated in this thread. This does not even address the real problem.

 

 

Not bad. I think all gun sales, weather to your friend or foe, should be done via a dealer who is required to administer a background check. Currently, there are WAY to many loopholes that wouldn't subject buyers to Wayne's proposed background check.

[Mike Honcho 5,435]

Now, for the truth. This is all for show, just as several have stated in this thread. This does not even address the real problem.

 

 

Yeah, Wayne LaPierre is just the guy you want for "the truth" about anything gun related.

[BLS 314]

As somebody who lives in a big city I can tell you in the unlikely event that some crack head breaks into my house before I can call the cops he can take my laptop or whatever else of value he can find and leave.

 

My dog is almost certainly going to notify me before anyone who gets in. If somebody does get in I will almost certainly have called the cops. And even if not, the intruder will almost certainly be looking for money, not somebody to hurt.

 

Not knowing if the intruder is armed, why would I engage in a firefight in my own house with my family sleeping nearby? My laptop or whatever isn't worth the risk. Take it, my insurance will buy me a new one.

 

These scenarios about a crazed maniac breaking in just to murder your family are so rare even here in a big city, the risk of keeping a gun around with kids in the house to me just isn't worth it.

 

 

See I think that's a horrible way of looking at things, but I agree you have that right to deal with that issue the way you want.

I'm just tried of having people try to tell me I have to jump through 100 hoops to exercise my choice.