obama - transgender bs

[Baker Boy 1,710]

 

The American people have abandoned the morals and values they once had, they have traded spirituality for sensuality, holiness for profanity, and righteousness for self-interest and they are offering their unborn children up as sacrifices. What was once thought of as immoral is now celebrated as sacred.

[parrot 789]

The American people have abandoned the morals and values they once had,

 

Morals and values like "plagiarism is bad"?

 

What does what bathroom a person uses have to do with morality? I don't think you even know what the word means.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

So. Just to be clear, most of you have no problem with a transgender who has a ###### sharing a locker room with the girls?

And of course, the lemmings standing in support of this go silent.

[Saint Elistan 106]

And of course, the lemmings standing in support of this go silent.

 

No problem here. There ya go.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

 

No problem here. There ya go.

So, in school, a 13 year old girl has to share a locker room with an 18 year old transgender and that's fine with you? What about the girl feeling uncomfortable?

[Frank M 181]

And of course, the lemmings standing in support of this go silent.

 

I couldn't care less, either.

 

HTH

 

[Saint Elistan 106]

So, in school, a 13 year old girl has to share a locker room with an 18 year old transgender and that's fine with you? What about the girl feeling uncomfortable?

 

Trick question - they're both girls.

[FeelingMN 273]

And of course, the lemmings standing in support of this go silent.

If kids are uncomfortable with the situation, maybe special arrangements could be made to give them more privacy.

 

[Saint Elistan 106]

If kids are uncomfortable with the situation, maybe special arrangements could be made to give them more privacy.

 

 

Don't mind him. He's living in some fantasy world where girls locker rooms consists of nothing but prancing about displaying their body parts for all to see.

[KSB2424 3,173]

If kids are uncomfortable with the situation, maybe special arrangements could be made to give them more privacy.

 

 

I agree. If a Transgender is uncomfortable using the locker room - shower - restroom that their genitals correspond to then special arrangements should be made. I would hope the school would let them use the "teachers restroom" or some other special arrangement for the Transgender student.

[Saint Elistan 106]

 

I agree. If a Transgender is uncomfortable using the locker room - shower - restroom that their genitals correspond to then special arrangements should be made. I would hope the school would let them use the "teachers restroom" or some other special arrangement for the Transgender student.

 

Ah, yes. Because it's appropriate that the student understand that they are the problem. Something is wrong with them.

 

You know what he was talking about - improving the existing facilities, not alienating the students by sending them somewhere else.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

 

Trick question - they're both girls.

Fact: one thinks they're a girl. But of course, the comfort of the real girl plays no part in this. What do you say to her when she says she's uncomfortable? Tough?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

 

Don't mind him. He's living in some fantasy world where girls locker rooms consists of nothing but prancing about displaying their body parts for all to see.

I live in the real world where people change in to and out of their clothes. That's why they go to a locker room.

[KSB2424 3,173]

Also, I think people need to be reminded of the time line of events that got us to this point where the issue of where one pee's is a National issue. This is merely a time line of events.

 

January 2016 - There was no "bathroom" policies in North Carolina. It was just inferred and people pee'd where they wanted and unless there was some big issue that arose, then it was just regulated by the people and wasn't all that big of a deal.

 

February 2016 - City of Charlotte (liberal) created a city ordinance mandating that both public and PRIVATE business must allow Transgenders to use the restroom-locker room-shower that they "identify with". Essentially a local privately owned gym was told how to run their shower and locker room facilitates. Also Charlotte school systems.

 

March 2016 - In response to this city ordinance and after a surge of push back at the state level, the State Legislature of NC convened and came up with House Bill II (HB2) which effectively overrode this City ordiance and said you cannot do that and also said that in gov't buildings they made their own bathroom rule that you go to based on what's under the hood. And private places (businesses) can make up their own bathroom policies (boys, girls, unisex, whatever) There were other things in this bill that have since been changed by executive order of the governor. But the privacy/restroom part remains.

 

May 2016 - The President and the Justice Department sent a letter to all states threatening to withhold Federal Fundingu nless they follow their directive (not a law or a court ruling just their own feeling or interpretation).

 

Yesterday 2016 - 11 States sued the Justice Department saying you can't do that and fock off.

[KSB2424 3,173]

 

Ah, yes. Because it's appropriate that the student understand that they are the problem. Something is wrong with them.

 

You know what he was talking about - improving the existing facilities, not alienating the students by sending them somewhere else.

 

I didn't say something was wrong with them. But they are unique are they not when it comes to gender? It's okay to be different, we are not all the same. Their uniqueness brings some challenges when it comes to showering together or even playing the same sports leagues (competitive sports). Things based on gender.

 

We're not talking about getting a job or applying for a loan or something. Of course those things sholdn't change. Those aren't based on Gender.

 

And I agree, maybe new schools (new construction) should put in a separate unisex restroom-shower. That'd be cool. I'm all for it.

[Saint Elistan 106]

I live in the real world where people change in to and out of their clothes. That's why they go to a locker room.

 

I somehow made it through all of middle and high school sports/gym without seeing another kids dong in the boys locker room.

 

On top of that, in Marching Band, the boys and girls all changed in the same room.

 

Apparently things were much different in your school? Was your coach a little more hands on? Where did he touch you?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

 

I somehow made it through all of middle and high school without seeing another kids dong in the boys locker room.

 

Apparently things were much different in your school? Was your coach a little more hands on? Where did he touch you?

I played sports. We took showers. But you're going to run out of guns to throw soon

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Don't mind him. He's living in some fantasy world where girls locker rooms consists of nothing but prancing about displaying their body parts for all to see.

And trans want to walk around whipping their cranks out.

[Saint Elistan 106]

It's time to face the reality that your children and hypothetical children are probably more mature on this topic than you are.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

It's time to face the reality that your children and hypothetical children are probably more mature on this topic than you are.

It's time you face reality and realize someone who can't yet vote or drive may not be mature enough yet to decide what sex they want to be.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

It's time to face the reality that your children and hypothetical children are probably more mature on this topic than you are.

Of course. I always consult with children when deciding things. Who doesn't? Am I Right?

[Saint Elistan 106]

It's time you face reality and realize someone who can't yet vote or drive may not be mature enough yet to decide what sex they want to be.

 

Haven't you been paying attention? That's decided at birth. You just haven't caught up with the science yet - to be fair, the science is just now becoming clear on the matter.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,543]

 

Haven't you been paying attention? That's decided at birth. You just haven't caught up with the science yet - to be fair, the science is just now becoming clear on the matter.

 

oh good, now that the leftist scientists determined its from birth, the right can figure out a way to fix it.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

 

Haven't you been paying attention? That's decided at birth. You just haven't caught up with the science yet - to be fair, the science is just now becoming clear on the matter.

Ok. We will adhere to a 14 year old deciding what sex they want to be. So since this 14 year old has decided, can they get a sex change operation? You know, science.

[Frank M 181]

 

oh good, now that the leftist scientists determined its from birth, the right can figure out a way to fix it.

 

I was unaware that political affiliation affected the science of gender. Science presents evidence. You can use your political affiliation as an excuse to reject it, like folks on the right generally do when evidence flies in the face of their beliefs.

 

HTH

[Frank M 181]

I played sports. We took showers. But you're going to run out of guns to throw soon

 

My kids have gone through high school without showering there one time, and they both played sports.

 

Times have changed in a lot of ways, Gramps.

[KSB2424 3,173]

 

Haven't you been paying attention? That's decided at birth. You just haven't caught up with the science yet - to be fair, the science is just now becoming clear on the matter.

You're giving this "science" or the ones you believe way to much credit. It's murky at best.

 

But it doesn't matter one way or another anyway. People are also 'born' with the propensity to be pedos. Or have genes that predispose them to mental disorders like bi polar.

 

Just because something happens "biologically" or "naturally" doesn't mean it should be celebrated or societies norms that make sense like having seperate restrooms or separate sports leagues wrong.

 

It means that .03 percent of people have to accept a few small challenges.

 

And screw the drobeski's of the world calling them Freaks. That wrong. They are people going through life the best they can. Acceptance and understanding is what should happen. But "celebrating it" and pretending certain things aren't supposed to be separated by gender is dumb. Sorry.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,543]

 

I was unaware that political affiliation affected the science of gender. Science presents evidence. You can use your political affiliation as an excuse to reject it, like folks on the right generally do when evidence flies in the face of their beliefs.

 

HTH

 

and your science comes from Bill Nye

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

 

My kids have gone through high school without showering there one time, and they both played sports.

 

Times have changed in a lot of ways, Gramps.

Good for your kids, that's settles it then, for them. I went to a job after practice. The restaurant insisted I didn't show up with dirt all over me. And my kids are younger than yours, so speak for yourself.

[Frank M 181]

 

and your science comes from Bill Nye

 

Bill Nye did gender research?

 

[Frank M 181]

Good for your kids, that's settles it then, for them. I went to a job after practice. The restaurant insisted I didn't show up with dirt all over me. And my kids are younger than yours, so speak for yourself.

 

So, your concern about girls feeling uncomfortable in the locker room comes from an opinion based on what you did 30 years ago, and as such, is completely uninformed based on what happens nowadays since you don't have kids in high school.

 

Shocking.

[FeelingMN 273]

I agree. If a Transgender is uncomfortable using the locker room - shower - restroom that their genitals correspond to then special arrangements should be made. I would hope the school would let them use the "teachers restroom" or some other special arrangement for the Transgender student.

Kinda rings like separate but equal. Maybe you can explain how it isn't?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

 

So, your concern about girls feeling uncomfortable in the locker room comes from an opinion based on what you did 30 years ago, and as such, is completely uninformed based on what happens nowadays since you don't have kids in high school.

 

Shocking.

Just dumb. You think everyone, even those the same age, have the same view on this issue?

[Frank M 181]

You're giving this "science" or the ones you believe way to much credit. It's murky at best.

 

But it doesn't matter one way or another anyway. People are also 'born' with the propensity to be pedos. Or have genes that predispose them to mental disorders like bi polar.

 

Just because something happens "biologically" or "naturally" doesn't mean it should be celebrated or societies norms that make sense like having seperate restrooms or separate sports leagues wrong.

 

It means that .03 percent of people have to accept a few small challenges.

 

And screw the drobeski's of the world calling them Freaks. That wrong. They are people going through life the best they can. Acceptance and understanding is what should happen. But "celebrating it" and pretending certain things aren't supposed to be separated by gender is dumb. Sorry.

 

Allowing transgenders into the bathroom of their choice doesn't mean "celebrating it", no matter how many times you guys say it.

[Frank M 181]

Just dumb.

 

 

Talk about throwing the gun!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Ok. We will adhere to a 14 year old deciding what sex they want to be. So since this 14 year old has decided, can they get a sex change operation? You know, science.

And the Lemmings retreat once more.

[Frank M 181]

And the Lemmings retreat once more.

 

No, we've been here kicking your ass the whole time.

 

[FeelingMN 273]

Also, I think people need to be reminded of the time line of events that got us to this point where the issue of where one pee's is a National issue. This is merely a time line of events.

 

January 2016 - There was not "bathroom" policies in North Carolina. It was just inferred and people pee'd where they wanted and unless there was some big issue that arose, then it was just regulated by the people and wasn't all that big of a deal.

 

February 2016 - City of Charlotte (liberal) created a city ordinance mandating that both public and PRIVATE business must allow Transgenders to use the restroom-locker room-shower that they "identify with". Essentially a local privately owned gym was told how to run their shower and locker room facilitates. Also Charlotte school systems.

 

March 2016 - In response to this city ordinance and after a surge of push back at the state level, the State Legislature of NC convened and came up with House Bill II (HB2) which effectively overrode this City ordiance and said you cannot do that and also said that in gov't buildings they made their own bathroom rule that you go to based on what's under the hood. There were other things in this bill that have since been changed by executive order of the governor. But the privacy/restroom part remains.

 

May 2016 - The President and the Justice Department sent a letter to all states threatening to withhold Federal Fundingu nless they follow their directive (not a law or a court ruling just their own feeling or interpretation).

 

Yesterday 2016 - 11 States sued the Justice Department saying you can't do that and fock off.

Since you don't believe in events occurring within a vacuum, I think it's important to note that several other state legislatures were drafting bathroom bills of their own. I think it was seven total but the only one I remember was SD who drafted legislation which was subsequently vetoed before HB2 made headlines. So there was debate about this issue before HB2. And it might explain why the city of Charlotte....just out of the blue decided to preempt such legislation in their community.

 

If there was no big deal, according to you, in Jan 2016 about who peed where.....Why were Republican state legislatures drafting bills to address it? Declining middle class....eroding infrastructure.....but we gotta make sure we keep the d!cks over here and the cvnts over there.

[Frank M 181]

Just dumb. You think everyone, even those the same age, have the same view on this issue?

 

No, you're entitled to your opinion. I said your opinion is uninformed.

 

HTH

[KSB2424 3,173]

 

Allowing transgenders into the bathroom of their choice doesn't mean "celebrating it", no matter how many times you guys say it.

 

I never said THAT was celebrating it per se. If you notice after that statement there was an "and". HTH

 

But "celebrating it" and pretending certain things aren't supposed to be separated by gender is dumb. Sorry.

 

Celebrating Transgender is holding parades and shiit.

 

Pretending Transgenders aren't unique and create issues when it comes to things like public bathrooms and showers as well as competive sports is lunacy.

 

Sorry Frank. People are different. And that's okay. Transgenders are different and have a unique situation that presents them certain challenges in small, and rather trivial, areas like where to pee in public. They need to deal with it.

 

There are people scared of heights in this country, it came natural to them. Should we A. Require all buildings not to be built over three stories to make those .03% of people feel okay? Or should B. Those people just have to deal with their unique situation and work around it?

 

I think B is most reasonable.