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I think a lot Generation Xers's just have built up animosity towards Millennials because deep down your angry because you just BARLEY missed growing up with computers. You went threw all of HS, and all of college and then all of a sudden computers took over. Not to long after that computers were in every business in the country. Then these kids start graduating that have grown up with computers and know them like second nature and they are better at your job then you. Fock seniority. Seniority is an excuse for older people to be lazy. Its bitterness. It makes you angry while your pecking away at your keyboard one key at a time, theres a 22 year old kid sitting next to you thats already started working on what you normally start at the end of the day.

 

X = Under-qualified/Overpaid

Millennials = Over-qualified/Underpaid

This could not be further from the truth. I have more resourcefulness in my pinky than your average millennial (at least that I've worked with). I didn't grow up with computers, but I taught myself how to use them really well. Millennials grew up with them and suck at using them, or at least sit there until someone shows them how to do something they don't know. So I'm all like, Let Me Google That For You :thumbsdown:

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This could not be further from the truth. I have more resourcefulness in my pinky than your average millennial (at least that I've worked with). I didn't grow up with computers, but I taught myself how to use them really well. Millennials grew up with them and suck at using them, or at least sit there until someone shows them how to do something they don't know. So I'm all like, Let Me Google That For You :thumbsdown:

 

 

 

You may want to review who you have as your hiring manager. Maybe they are the problem... Nah can't be, must be an entire generation of people.

 

What gets me working is the sense of I don't want to let someone down, that authoritarian BS doesn't work on most Millennials.

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You may want to review who you have as your hiring manager. Maybe they are the problem... Nah can't be, must be an entire generation of people.

 

What gets me working is the sense of I don't want to let someone down, that authoritarian BS doesn't work on most Millennials.

Oh the hiring manager sucks asss. For sure.

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What gets me working is the sense of I don't want to let someone down, that authoritarian BS doesn't work on most Millennials.

:thumbsup:

 

don't let someone down... it's a powerful, motivating force, IF.... IF.... there's mutual respect and trust.... IF, you feel that you are part of the larger picture, part of the "tribe".

 

The "old" way was to turn everyone into replaceable cogs.... and keep everything very sterile, impersonal, "it's just business". Do your job, follow directions, and you will be taken care of.

 

And it doesn't work anymore. The Millenial wants to belong, be relevant, be heard, and be respected for their ideas and uniqueness. Motivation through fear is being rejected... motivation through shared purpose and success is being embraced... this is a big part of the CEO pay-gap resentment.

 

Simon Sinek explains this a bit in his "Leaders Eat Last" presentation. It's long but worth watching.

Some great quotes to think about....

 

Why did you risk it all for him? Because he would have done it for me"

 

"In the military, we give medals to those who sacrifice themselves so that others may gain... In business, we give bonuses to those who sacrifice others so that we may gain..."

 

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don't let someone down... it's a powerful, motivating force, IF.... IF.... there's mutual respect and trust.... IF, you feel that you are part of the larger picture, part of the "tribe".

 

The "old" way was to turn everyone into replaceable cogs.... and keep everything very sterile, impersonal, "it's just business". Do your job, follow directions, and you will be taken care of.

 

And it doesn't work anymore. The Millenial wants to belong, be relevant, be heard, and be respected for their ideas and uniqueness. Motivation through fear is being rejected... motivation through shared purpose and success is being embraced... this is a big part of the CEO pay-gap resentment.

 

Simon Sinek explains this a bit in his "Leaders Eat Last" presentation. It's long but worth watching.

Some great quotes to think about....

 

Why did you risk it all for him? Because he would have done it for me"

 

"In the military, we give medals to those who sacrifice themselves so that others may gain... In business, we give bonuses to those who sacrifice others so that we may gain..."

 

:first:

 

You are definitely getting the most out of your employees, and probably learning little things yourself along the way. Thats how companies grow, when you take an authoritarian approach your company is limited to one persons capabilities.

 

Going to check this video out when I get home.

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:thumbsup:

 

don't let someone down... it's a powerful, motivating force, IF.... IF.... there's mutual respect and trust.... IF, you feel that you are part of the larger picture, part of the "tribe".

 

The "old" way was to turn everyone into replaceable cogs.... and keep everything very sterile, impersonal, "it's just business". Do your job, follow directions, and you will be taken care of.

 

And it doesn't work anymore. The Millenial wants to belong, be relevant, be heard, and be respected for their ideas and uniqueness. Motivation through fear is being rejected... motivation through shared purpose and success is being embraced... this is a big part of the CEO pay-gap resentment.

 

Simon Sinek explains this a bit in his "Leaders Eat Last" presentation. It's long but worth watching.

Some great quotes to think about....

 

Why did you risk it all for him? Because he would have done it for me"

 

"In the military, we give medals to those who sacrifice themselves so that others may gain... In business, we give bonuses to those who sacrifice others so that we may gain..."

 

This old way is very much the baby boomer way.

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This old way is very much the baby boomer way.

 

yes. and it's the GenX ers that are lost a bit and paying for it.

At least the baby boomers got their part of "the deal"... they worked 20+ years at one company and got a retirement, pension, social security, etc.

 

The GenX ers are the ones who are focked. We are the ones mid career, with families, mortgages, etc stuck hanging onto the old way, for better or worse, hoping it holds together just long enough for us to "get out".

Some GenXers will wise up, and see the new connection economy and try to build something for themselves... but it's hard b/c risk is a big part of doing that... and we have too much responsibility (family, mortgage, etc) to absorb any risk / failure.

 

The young guy, just getting going... is already broke and living in his mom's basement. He has nothing to lose. Just put down the X-Box and get going... start your business, write your book, shoot your movie, make your recording, promote your consulting, landscaping, cooking, etc.

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that right there is why jerry fockin' hates you and will take great pleasure in attacking you... his defense of, "B... B.... but he started it" would be valid in this thread.

 

Some of us are doing OK toeing the line of the old way... the old, industrial economy... we got an education, worked hard, followed the rules and did as we were told, and now have a position in management or are at/above the top 3rd of a company. Like nobody said, "now all those young guys are managers and know how productive people should be".

 

And as much as jerry's "special snowflake" comment is hilarious (I laughed), it's interesting that those who succeeded (and still defend) the old way are enraged by "special snowflake" syndrome. Listen, I'm not defending anyone being a self-centered, ignorant, silver-spoon momma's boy - so let's not debate that - but I am suggesting that "special snowflake" is what everyone is looking for in a product or service today.

You wanna' be a "special snowflake" and sell your "special snowflake" product or service? It's gonna' take some knowledge, expertise, and hard work.... but selling "special snowflakes" as a micro-entrepreneur is where it's at today and where it's going in the future.

The Millenials have the unique spot where they are in between... in between the industrial revolution's end and the connection economy's beginning.

20 years ago, if your kid told you she wanted to teach ethnic hungarian dance... as a profession... as a career... you'd have lost your mind. Today, there may be a market for it... there may be a niche for it... and that same kid may make a better life and wage for herself being that "special snowflake".

So, it's a fine line between letting kids be dreaming, no-substance, no-accountability idiots and letting them actually pursue their passion/talent without the fear that they'll never get a "real" job.

Interesting way to turn "special snowflake" into a positive. :D I agree with your post btw.

 

My daughter is about to start college for mechanical engineering. Her real passion however is theater. She saw Newsies this past weekend and commented on the complexity of the set. I said she should work on set design. Her eyes lit up but then she said that there probably aren't that many jobs. I responded that she had obvious passion for the industry which would show when she spoke to companies. I could see here finding a niche there. :thumbsup:

 

Also Worms is a dope.

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The young guy, just getting going... is already broke and living in his mom's basement. He has nothing to lose. Just put down the X-Box and get going... start your business, write your book, shoot your movie, make your recording, promote your consulting, landscaping, cooking, etc.

The problem is that starting your own business etc takes way more work and discipline than working for an established company; traits we old fogies don't see in abundance in the millenials. :dunno:

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Interesting way to turn "special snowflake" into a positive. :D I agree with your post btw.

 

My daughter is about to start college for mechanical engineering. Her real passion however is theater. She saw Newsies this past weekend and commented on the complexity of the set. I said she should work on set design. Her eyes lit up but then she said that there probably aren't that many jobs. I responded that she had obvious passion for the industry which would show when she spoke to companies. I could see here finding a niche there. :thumbsup:

 

Also Worms is a dope.

this is theoretical jerry... but go along with it for a minute...

 

set design... don't know much about that industry... who are the big players? but I'm guessing there are very few... and they are very expensive... if you have big production dollars, you can get the elite set design companies... but today, more than ever, people and companies are self-producing video - sets, lighting, etc may be more in demand than ever and those who want/need it cant afford the big players but they'd love a more local, cost-effective expert to help/consult/etc.

 

point is, set designers were once only needed in Hollywood or Broadway... I'm guessing there's more opportunity than ever for them with the amount of video production that's taking over - and the video production is taking over for the same reason - you no longer need Hollywood, huge crews, and expensive grear - you can do it yourself (nearly) just a well.

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The problem is that starting your own business etc takes way more work and discipline than working for an established company; traits we old fogies don't see in abundance in the millenials. :dunno:

typically... yes.

 

but the opportunity to do it is greater than ever.

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this is theoretical jerry... but go along with it for a minute...

 

set design... don't know much about that industry... who are the big players? but I'm guessing there are very few... and they are very expensive... if you have big production dollars, you can get the elite set design companies... but today, more than ever, people and companies are self-producing video - sets, lighting, etc may be more in demand than ever and those who want/need it cant afford the big players but they'd love a more local, cost-effective expert to help/consult/etc.

 

point is, set designers were once only needed in Hollywood or Broadway... I'm guessing there's more opportunity than ever for them with the amount of video production that's taking over - and the video production is taking over for the same reason - you no longer need Hollywood, huge crews, and expensive grear - you can do it yourself (nearly) just a well.

 

 

To add to your point, and this kind of ties into what you were saying a bit, Hollywood is having its worst year financially since 1972.

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To add to your point, and this kind of ties into what you were saying a bit, Hollywood is having its worst year financially since 1972.

the movie industry, publishing industry, the music industry, the news industry... competition is all around them now... great content (movies, books, music, articles) are created everyday by people who don't need 'The Industry" to pick them, choose them, anoint them... and it is still spreading... maybe as far as "set designers" (for jerry's daughter) but I'm not sure....

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To add to your point, and this kind of ties into what you were saying a bit, Hollywood is having its worst year financially since 1972.

15 dollars a ticket doesn't help.

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Going to check this video out when I get home.

:thumbsup:

I think you'll really like this... it's pretty profound stuff.

I've watched it many times (listened in the car, etc) just to absorb it all.

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15 dollars a ticket doesn't help.

 

No it doesn't, especially when you can find equally good content for free online.

 

 

Jerry: I would encourage her to do what she loves, there are many ways she can make money doing set design, even without working for a company.. She's 19, buy her a URL for a website right now, and suggest to her to start writing blogs or even making quick 5 minute videos on youtube, she's 19 she knows how to do all this stuff.. Eventually that will evolve and she will figure out a way to make money with it. And she would have a blast doing it.

 

 

:thumbsup:

I think you'll really like this... it's pretty profound stuff.

I've watched it many times (listened in the car, etc) just to absorb it all.

 

 

I'm certain I will enjoy it. There was a documentary I watched a few months ago on the Evolution of Marketing and it was incredibly interesting, I'll try to dig it up for you.

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No it doesn't, especially when you can find equally good content for free online.

 

 

Jerry: I would encourage her to do what she loves, there are many ways she can make money doing set design, even without working for a company.. She's 19, buy her a URL for a website right now, and suggest to her to start writing blogs or even making quick 5 minute videos on youtube, she's 19 she knows how to do all this stuff.. Eventually that will evolve and she will figure out a way to make money with it. And she would have a blast doing it.

 

 

 

 

I'm certain I will enjoy it. There was a documentary I watched a few months ago on the Evolution of Marketing and it was incredibly interesting, I'll try to dig it up for you.

post it if you find it.

 

If you want something more marketing specific, the same guy (Simon Sinek) also has this one, "Start With Why"... another profound and interesting talk:

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Spoiled College Grad Demands New Dress Code at Job, Gets the Boot

 

College kids have a pretty easy time getting their way on campus. Just make enough of a stink and the universities cave.

 

Unfortunately, these students eventually reach a little place called the real world, where things aren't so forgiving. One recently wrote in to an advice columnist because the antics he'd gotten away with elsewhere suddenly didn't work.

You see, Junior was at his internship, and he wanted the company to have a more lax dress code. Plus, they noticed one of the regular staff wearing shoes that weren't in line with the standard dress code, and that just wasn't right. So, this individual got together with his fellow interns and wrote up a proposal for an alternate dress code (hmm ... ) accompanied with a petition (whoops!) and sent it on.

Hilarity ensued:

 

The next day, all of us who signed the petition were called into a meeting where we thought our proposal would be discussed. Instead, we were informed that due to our “unprofessional” behavior, we were being let go from our internships. We were told to hand in our ID badges and to gather our things and leave the property ASAP.

 

We were shocked. The proposal was written professionally like examples I have learned about in school, and our arguments were thought out and well-reasoned. We weren’t even given a chance to discuss it. The worst part is that just before the meeting ended, one of the managers told us that the worker who was allowed to disobey the dress code was a former soldier who lost her leg and was therefore given permission to wear whatever kind of shoes she could walk in. You can’t even tell, and if we had known about this we would have factored it into our argument.

 

The reality is that colleges -- the educational institutions that are theoretically supposed to prepare these kids for the real world -- did these students a disservice by treating every petition or pet cause as valid, allowing the inmates to run the asylum. When the students hit the real world, WHAM!

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/06/29/spoiled-college-grad-demands-new-dress-code-at-job-gets-the-boot/

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The young people I've worked with are great.

They're super smart and polite.

They don't work as hard as the older people, but...they're not perfect.

Some are dingbats, but overall they are a wonderful group.

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To be clear these are not some kind of special kids. The next tastemakers or what have you. They're your basic 24 year olds who have never really had a real job before. and instead of learning the ropes they're all Work should be fun ! And I'm just going to spew ideas all over the place without thinking them through or considering that someone else may already have a stake in the ground on the matter. Focking A

What is it that you and these kids do for the university?

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worthless without pics

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