IGotWorms 4,060 Posted July 25, 2016 What do you guys think about him? Coming off a bad injury, ain't getting any younger. But Rodgers loves him and that Green Bay offense just didn't work well without him. Does he return to his 2014 form (or at least 2013)? Was a monster then. I'm thinking he's a good value target Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted July 25, 2016 Wr1 whom you can get for cheap. I'm buying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwolf68 13 Posted July 25, 2016 He won't be cheap. Last I looked his ADP was 2-2 with a low of end of row 2. So he's not cheap and I argue quite expensive. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 476 Posted July 25, 2016 I'd rather draft Cobb or Lacy, both of whom will be discounted because of last season, yet get the effect of Jordy in the lineup. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted July 25, 2016 He won't be cheap. Last I looked his ADP was 2-2 with a low of end of row 2. So he's not cheap and I argue quite expensive. Huh, for some reason I thought he was going a bit later than that. Never mind then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace08 11 Posted July 25, 2016 In most of the mocks I've seen he goes at the end of the first round. In this range I'd rather take a chance on Dez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted July 25, 2016 Number three wr on my board , so in a ppr league worthy of a first round pick . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer 84 Posted July 26, 2016 The Vikings and Bears are both better on defense. His injury may have lasting effects that we aren't aware of yet. I can't recall a WR who had a bad injury and was 100% the following season. I like Jordy, but he's not on my list of guys to take in Round One. The last draft I was in, he went at the 1.10. That's just too rich for my blood. In that scenario, you are losing if he doesn't produce like a top 3/4 WR. As someone above said, Cobb has slipped a bit and he presents a better value this season. Jordy may have better numbers, but taking him in the late 1st gives you no room for error. You can get Cobb later and his numbers in PPR may be incredibly similar. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 480 Posted July 26, 2016 I have him as a low end WR1. He has top 5 potential but I expect that to be tapered down a little coming off the ACL injury. Many players struggle a bit the 1st season back, but not all. If he plays all 16 or close I still see him being a solid starter each week at worst and a strong WR1 at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphster 274 Posted July 26, 2016 As far as draft slot I'm suspect that he would have been 'ready for the superbowl' but starts on PUP. I think he's good this year, maybe WR 8-14 at the top end. But I'd peg his floor around 18-22. In the late first or early second I'm not taking him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace08 11 Posted July 26, 2016 Call it a gut feeling...but I'm not touching Jordy this year. It's not even the fact he's coming off the injury...nowadays ACL's aren't even that big a deal and guys usually come back with a stronger knee. I'm more worried about the fact he's 31 years old. Could he have one or two good seasons left? Sure. Am I willing to use a later first or early 2nd round pick to find out when that ADP range has other solid options? Hell no. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted July 26, 2016 Not me , if he is healthy I have him set as my third wr . Makes him a first rounder . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$epphori$ 118 Posted July 26, 2016 Over 30 and recent ACL injury = Washed up = Never return to form Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,783 Posted July 26, 2016 Someone give me some names of WRs who came back to be a WR1 after an ACL tear. Maclin (was 25) Welker (was 29) Anyone else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$epphori$ 118 Posted July 26, 2016 Someone give me some names of WRs who came back to be a WR1 after an ACL tear. Maclin (was 25) Welker (was 29) Anyone else? I would not put younger guys on the same list as guys 30+ That is the cutoff for me. But thats just my opinion man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,783 Posted July 26, 2016 I would not put younger guys on the same list as guys 30+ That is the cutoff for me. But thats just my opinion man Not a bad opinion, but Nelson doesn't have the typical wear on his legs like a 31 year old. Welker had more catches at a younger age, 1/2 the rehab period of Nelson, and still was a #1. Still, that is one example and only one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer 84 Posted July 26, 2016 Maclin actually came back from a couple knee operations. He was young though. Welker has always been just a slot guy, so he doesn't compare well with Nelson. Nelson has never been "fast", but more of the sneaky deep guy who runs great routes and doesn't give up on a play. That said, no way is he a 1st rounder in 2016 in my book. Way too many other guys available without the risk he comes with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted July 26, 2016 Rodgers just had his "worst season as a starter." 3800 31 8 92.7. LOL thats a pro bowl season right there and for Rodgers it was considered a letdown. Call that his rock ottom floor and add Jordy to the mix. He is a great wr1 choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 476 Posted July 26, 2016 Nelson had a "hiccup" with his other knee and doesn't know when he'll practice. https://twitter.com/RobDemovsky/status/757990291257249793 1st round WR... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted July 26, 2016 Will that's interesting news . But he is still my number three Wr he is still the main focus at the wr postion with Rodgers at Qb . It's all good , everyone just relax . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted July 26, 2016 Will that's interesting news . But he is still my number three Wr he is still the main focus at the wr postion with Rodgers at Qb . It's all good , everyone just relax . Who isnt relaxed? Did I say i wasnt relaxed? Im relaxed. When did I say I wasnt relaxed! Im relaxed dammit! YOU RELAX! NOT ME, YOU! Im relaxed! its fine, everything is fine!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$epphori$ 118 Posted July 26, 2016 Nelson had a "hiccup" with his other knee and doesn't know when he'll practice. https://twitter.com/RobDemovsky/status/757990291257249793 1st round WR... Packers coach Mike McCarthy said Jordy Nelson is on the active/PUP list with a "hiccup" in his non-ACL knee, but that he should be ready for Week 1. "It's not the ACL," Nelson assured. "No one needs to freak out." Be that as it may, Nelson is without a return date for practice. Nelson should be ready for the opener, but this puts the injury risk for a 31-year-old player coming off a torn ACL in stark relief. It's possible Nelson is held out for the entire preseason. Nelson is currently the WR7 by ADP, ahead of the likes of Allen Robinson and Alshon Jeffery. That was ambitious even before Nelson's latest injury news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted July 26, 2016 Who isnt relaxed? Did I say i wasnt relaxed? Im relaxed. When did I say I wasnt relaxed! Im relaxed dammit! YOU RELAX! NOT ME, YOU! Im relaxed! its fine, everything is fine!! Yes Sir . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 147 Posted July 26, 2016 As far as draft slot I'm suspect that he would have been 'ready for the superbowl' but starts on PUP. I think he's good this year, maybe WR 8-14 at the top end. But I'd peg his floor around 18-22. In the late first or early second I'm not taking him. I concur. I think all the upside and none of the risk is being built into his ADP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 476 Posted July 26, 2016 There's a likely chance where he will have a total of two-three series of preseason action (a year ago) as the only NFL action he'll have in a total of 18 months. Being in shape and in game-shape are two entirely different things. For a 31 year old WR who has consistently been a deep threat, good luck with the conditioning aspect early in the season. And if you're selling after a potentially disappointing start, I'll buy. For a fraction of the cost you invested in during the draft. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted July 26, 2016 Isn't fantasy football all about upside and not based on risk . Everyone is a risk injury a bad season suspension . If you think about it more thought should be put into the risk factor but than I would be hitting for singles when I like to go for the home run . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted July 26, 2016 Yeah his ADP would have to drop a lot before I'm interested. I honestly just assumed he was going around round 3 or even 4 what with the knee injury plus age. Round one? Forget it. He has to live up to everything you could hope for otherwise it's a bad pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 476 Posted July 26, 2016 Isn't fantasy football all about upside and not based on risk . Everyone is a risk injury a bad season suspension . If you think about more thought should be put into the risk factor but than I would be hitting for singles when I like to go for the home run . Julio, AJG, Nuk, A-Rob all offer the exact same upside as Jordy Nelson. None of them are coming off a year and a half of no NFL action. How exactly is Julio Jones hitting for singles? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smash-a-mus 6 Posted July 26, 2016 Better value going with Cobb later rounds than go Nelson where he is at right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted July 26, 2016 Oh no , Jordy help makes Cobb better Jordy is the key . It's all good Jordy is the main focus . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted July 26, 2016 Yeah his ADP would have to drop a lot before I'm interested. I honestly just assumed he was going around round 3 or even 4 what with the knee injury plus age. Round one? Forget it. He has to live up to everything you could hope for otherwise it's a bad pick.That's where I have had him ranked in the first round . I have him ranked third on my wr list . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted July 26, 2016 Julio, AJG, Nuk, A-Rob all offer the exact same upside as Jordy Nelson. None of them are coming off a year and a half of no NFL action. How exactly is Julio Jones hitting for singles? I would like you to show me where I typed J Jones was hitting for singles ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 476 Posted July 27, 2016 Isn't fantasy football all about upside and not based on risk . Everyone is a risk injury a bad season suspension . If you think about it more thought should be put into the risk factor but than I would be hitting for singles when I like to go for the home run . I would like you to show me where I typed J Jones was hitting for singles ? Since he's your #3 ranked WR as you've clearly said over and over... I'll take a shot in the dark that Antonio Brown is your #1. I'd then speculate that Odell Beckham is #2. So...by process of elimination, if you put more thought into risk factor, you'd be taking a guy like Julio. Or Nuk. Or AJG. Or A-Rob. But, then you'd be hitting for singles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillygrrl08 139 Posted July 27, 2016 Problem with the other knee now? https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/packers-jordy-nelson-suffers-hiccup-in-other-knee-timetable-unknown-203436842.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted July 27, 2016 Since he's your #3 ranked WR as you've clearly said over and over... I'll take a shot in the dark that Antonio Brown is your #1. I'd then speculate that Odell Beckham is #2. So...by process of elimination, if you put more thought into risk factor, you'd be taking a guy like Julio. Or Nuk. Or AJG. Or A-Rob. But, then you'd be hitting for singles. So when did I say that J Jones his like hitting a single ? So what you are saying is that you assume how I look at things . But we've never answered my question that was ask to you , when did I say Jones is hitting a single ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphster 274 Posted July 27, 2016 Your post he quoted reads like 'everyone is a risk and Jordy is still #3 on my board, taking someone else is hitting singles' little paws. Personally I believe Jordy will be fine by game 1, and GB is going to play it safe with him. Still too much risk at his current ADP for me tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 476 Posted July 27, 2016 So when did I say that J Jones his like hitting a single ? So what you are saying is that you assume how I look at things . But we've never answered my question that was ask to you , when did I say Jones is hitting a single ? WPIAFP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted July 27, 2016 Will right now I don't feel like he is a risk and worth the ranking I've ranked him at . A month from now if Nelson is still having a problem and it's getting closer to my draft than I will change his ranking if need be . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer 84 Posted July 27, 2016 I don't like cats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
