No Muslim Refugee has ever committed an act of terror in the U.S.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

So how come you don't point out any of that?

Because the democrats are not in power? Because it's not the central theme of anything the democrats are doing right now?

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Same with the illegals and why the Democrats don't want them gone; VOTES.

Yet you keep getting smacked down when talking about illegals voting

[Sho Nuff 720]

Trump ran on promises. But never a clue how he was going to accomplish them.

 

Let's check his scorecard

Repeal and replace Obamacare within first 100 days.- Uhh, now they're saying MAYBE by 2018.

Build a wall and have Mexico pay for it.- Mexico said Fock you Trump, so now we're footing the bill

Destroy ISIS- Instead, let's just be scared of Muslims and keep them all out (In which he was bitchslapped hard)

The wall which is now estimated at over 20billion and take up to three years.

They probably won't tackle ACA (after attempt after attempt to repeal during Obamas term...nothing now despite the promises...still no plan for a replacement)

 

He did say radical Islam though. Woohoo

 

All talk...

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Because the democrats are not in power? Because it's not the central theme of anything the democrats are doing right now?

 

They're demonizing EVERY Presidential pick by fear mongering and hate. Democrats should be considered a Hate Group now.

 

Yet you keep getting smacked down when talking about illegals voting

 

Sure I am. 'Study after study shows there's no significant illegal voting'. I bet they find in bars where they don't check I.D. they'll find no underage drinking either.

[NewbieJr 541]

The wall which is now estimated at over 20billion and take up to three years.

They probably won't tackle ACA (after attempt after attempt to repeal during Obamas term...nothing now despite the promises...still no plan for a replacement)

 

He did say radical Islam though. Woohoo

 

All talk...

And flexed his muscles to Mexico, Australia, and Chicago. The new enemies.

[drobeski 3,061]

Yet you keep getting smacked down when talking about illegals voting

a woman in Texas just got sentenced for doing just that.

[FeelingMN 273]

 

Exactly. The U.S. Constitution should apply to it's citizens.

 

It also applies to the President as well. And he can't unilaterally exclude a group entrance to the US based on religion. Now I know you'll say that this EO doesn't explicitly do that. But that's essentially what's at issue here.

 

Because if it truly didn't matter, Trump wouldn't have had to contort his words so much the past year and a half. His initial idea was to ban Muslims. Very few, irrespective of party affiliation, thought that was constitutional....including the VP.

 

IF....if this EO explicitly banned Muslims.....would you be more likely to question the constitutionality of it? Even though the Muslims in question are not US citizens?

[cyclone24 1,935]

Part of me hopes he just carpet bombs those 7 countries in response....just to go "There....can't get in now can they? Hard for Snackbar over there to get on a plane while he's looking for his foot over in the sand or up that camels ass isn't it?"

 

 

 

 

 

Like 25% serious....maybe 40.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

a woman in Texas just got sentenced for doing just that.

8 years! Texas don't play.

[drobeski 3,061]

8 years! Texas don't play.

impossible...it never happens

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Yeah so, That Somalian guy who stabbed 8 people at the mall in Minnesota in the name of Isis, anybody hear about that?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

It also applies to the President as well. And he can't unilaterally exclude a group entrance to the US based on religion. Now I know you'll say that this EO doesn't explicitly do that. But that's essentially what's at issue here.

 

Stop.............Deal with the issue in black and white. What does the E.O. say?

 

I'm not P.C. so since 90+ percent of attacks committed worldwide are Muslims, no I wouldn't question the constitutionality of it more. I'm more concerned with American lives than the feelings of a group of individuals whose religion has been shown to spawn terrorists. Period.

[drobeski 3,061]

Yeah so, That Somalian guy who stabbed 8 people at the mall in Minnesota in the name of Isis, anybody hear about that?

evidently not the activist judge

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

evidently not the activist judge

He must have been pissed about one of Obamas executive orders. According to Newbie, the EO's is what sets them off.

[FeelingMN 273]

 

Stop.............Deal with the issue in black and white. What does the E.O. say?

 

I'm not P.C. so since 90+ percent of attacks committed worldwide are Muslims, no I wouldn't question the constitutionality of it more. I'm more concerned with American lives than the feelings of a group of individuals whose religion has been shown to spawn terrorists. Period.

 

The EO doesn't say it will ban Muslims. Why? Clearly they are responsible for most terror attacks. So why not issue a worldwide Muslim Ban? Is Trump being PC? Or does it have to do with the constitutionality of banning people based on religion regardless of their citizenship? Catch my drift?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/did-an-msnbc-reporter-just-suggest-trump-would-have-reporters-assassinated/article/2614072

 

MSNBC reporter suggesting Trump might have reporters killed.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

They're demonizing EVERY Presidential pick by fear mongering and hate. Democrats should be considered a Hate Group now.

 

 

Sure I am. 'Study after study shows there's no significant illegal voting'. I bet they find in bars where they don't check I.D. they'll find no underage drinking either.

Not every pick.

Devos should have been destroyed...awful pick.

Sessions past led him to that questioning.

Flynn and Mattis seemed to go prett smooth

 

Your voter fraud obsession is just hilarious though. I'll give you credit for continuing to stumble back to your feet so many times and still trying the same tired ass arguments.

[Baker Boy 1,710]

It also applies to the President as well. And he can't unilaterally exclude a group entrance to the US based on religion. Now I know you'll say that this EO doesn't explicitly do that. But that's essentially what's at issue here.

 

No what is at issue is the safety of the American people, maybe you should listen to Trump speak rather than have some anarchist interpret it for you. The Muslin ban is a made up issue by the hateful lying left and there are plenty of sheep ready to buy in.

 

How is this different from Obama Visa ban on Iraqi Refugees in 2011? Why weren't you up in arms then? Is Obama anti Muslim?

 

Four legs good, two legs bad!

[Sho Nuff 720]

a woman in Texas just got sentenced for doing just that.

A woman...woohoo. No go take a course on statistics and get back to us on the effect of one person.

Nobody is saying there is zero fraud...got it yet?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Part of me hopes he just carpet bombs those 7 countries in response....just to go "There....can't get in now can they? Hard for Snackbar over there to get on a plane while he's looking for his foot over in the sand or up that camels ass isn't it?"

 

 

 

 

 

Like 25% serious....maybe 40.

Yay...death to innocent people.

What a focking jackass.

 

I have no doubt Trump supporters out there hope there is a terrorist attack from one of those 7 countries.

[Sho Nuff 720]

No what is at issue is the safety of the American people, maybe you should listen to Trump speak rather than have some anarchist interpret it for you. The Muslin ban is a made up issue by the hateful lying left and there are plenty of sheep ready to buy in.

 

How is this different from Obama Visa ban on Iraqi Refugees in 2011? Why weren't you up in arms then? Is Obama anti Muslim?

 

Four legs good, two legs bad!

Because that's not whatObama did.

And it's already been discussed

[Sho Nuff 720]

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/234422246-story

 

Don't worry...administration has already been working to not count such acts as terrorism unless it's by muslims.

[drobeski 3,061]

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/234422246-story

 

Don't worry...administration has already been working to not count such acts as terrorism unless it's by muslims.

cool a complete 180 degree reversal of the ignorant last administration

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/234422246-story

 

Don't worry...administration has already been working to not count such acts as terrorism unless it's by muslims.

 

 

Come on.......what a stretch there. Some punk little white kid has a hazardous substance and NOT caught trying to spread it, reports himself and THAT'S an act of terrorism?

 

FULL FOCKING RETARD

[Sho Nuff 720]

cool a complete 180 degree reversal of the ignorant last administration

What's good about it?

These are the types most likely to cause death to Americans in US soil. And we are deciding to not pay attention to them?

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

 

Come on.......what a stretch there. Some punk little white kid has a hazardous substance and NOT caught trying to spread it, reports himself and THAT'S an act of terrorism?

 

FULL FOCKING RETARD

No...the point that orders have gone they to barely even look for this type of thing unless it's from muslims.

That went thru pretty quietly last week.

It wasn't just about this guy...but gave me the opportunity to bring it up.

 

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15G5VO

 

Plenty of concerns with such a shift

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

"To target a large population would also necessitate a quantity of powder in excess of several metric tons. The technical and logistical skills required to formulate such a mass of powder to the required size is beyond the ability of terrorists who typically operate out of a kitchen in a small urban dwelling or in a small ill-equipped laboratory. Ricin as a toxin is deadly but as an agent of bioterror it is unsuitable and therefore does not deserve the press attention and subsequent public alarm that has been created."

 

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/06/ricin_as_a_terr.html

 

Focking grasping at straws for ANY fodder against Trump admin.

[drobeski 3,061]

"To target a large population would also necessitate a quantity of powder in excess of several metric tons. The technical and logistical skills required to formulate such a mass of powder to the required size is beyond the ability of terrorists who typically operate out of a kitchen in a small urban dwelling or in a small ill-equipped laboratory. Ricin as a toxin is deadly but as an agent of bioterror it is unsuitable and therefore does not deserve the press attention and subsequent public alarm that has been created."

 

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/06/ricin_as_a_terr.html

 

Focking grasping at straws for ANY fodder against Trump admin.

TDS....bad

[Sho Nuff 720]

"To target a large population would also necessitate a quantity of powder in excess of several metric tons. The technical and logistical skills required to formulate such a mass of powder to the required size is beyond the ability of terrorists who typically operate out of a kitchen in a small urban dwelling or in a small ill-equipped laboratory. Ricin as a toxin is deadly but as an agent of bioterror it is unsuitable and therefore does not deserve the press attention and subsequent public alarm that has been created."

 

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/06/ricin_as_a_terr.html

 

Focking grasping at straws for ANY fodder against Trump admin.

I wasn't attributing this kid to Trump...there is a larger point that is likely to go way over your head

[Baker Boy 1,710]

At least 72 convicted terrorists since 9/11 have come from the seven countries affected by the Trump administration’s travel ban, according to a new study by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), which reviewed information compiled by a Senate subcommittee in 2016.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/11/study-proves-judges-wrong-72-convicted-terrorists-have-come-from-travel-ban-countries/

[Sho Nuff 720]

At least 72 convicted terrorists since 9/11 have come from the seven countries affected by the Trump administration’s travel ban, according to a new study by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), which reviewed information compiled by a Senate subcommittee in 2016.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/11/study-proves-judges-wrong-72-convicted-terrorists-have-come-from-travel-ban-countries/

 

I knew this would come up when this was bumped. Thank you. Also...thank you for posting a link to the focking Daily Caller...to a study by the CIS. You all whine about fake news and biased sources and you post two of the more known biased places you could possibly find. So focking funny.

 

This is the type of misinformation BS that leads ignorant fools to support someone like Trump.

Did you read that even? Look at the actual list?

Notice it cuts off pretty much about 2011 as far as when people were caught (when some more vetting actually started happening).

Notice also how many of those are for incidents that have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism.

They pretty much listed crimes for people from those nations rather than actually terrorist crimes.

 

http://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/Copy-of-terrorists-from-7-danger-countries-charges-added-2.xls

 

Look for the actual spreadsheet...not CISs BS pdf that doesn't list the charge.

Look at the charges..the worst are material to support terrorist organizations or money laundering to such groups. (about 20 of the 72 are that...the rest?)

Many things like attempt or conspiracy to violate federal narcotics law (not a terroist crime), fraud and other charges. False statements...and so on

Most of that spreadsheet...are like that...not terrorist things.

 

But thats not how you play it right? Not how CIS and FOX and the DailyCaller report it either.

[Baker Boy 1,710]

So now Mr. Mom is arguing with the US Senate on what a Terroist act is. Priceless!

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

I knew this would come up when this was bumped. Thank you. Also...thank you for posting a link to the focking Daily Caller...to a study by the CIS. You all whine about fake news and biased sources and you post two of the more known biased places you could possibly find. So focking funny.

 

This is the type of misinformation BS that leads ignorant fools to support someone like Trump.

Did you read that even? Look at the actual list?

Notice it cuts off pretty much about 2011 as far as when people were caught (when some more vetting actually started happening).

Notice also how many of those are for incidents that have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism.

They pretty much listed crimes for people from those nations rather than actually terrorist crimes.

 

http://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/Copy-of-terrorists-from-7-danger-countries-charges-added-2.xls

 

Look for the actual spreadsheet...not CISs BS pdf that doesn't list the charge.

Look at the charges..the worst are material to support terrorist organizations or money laundering to such groups. (about 20 of the 72 are that...the rest?)

Many things like attempt or conspiracy to violate federal narcotics law (not a terroist crime), fraud and other charges. False statements...and so on

Most of that spreadsheet...are like that...not terrorist things.

 

But thats not how you play it right? Not how CIS and FOX and the DailyCaller report it either.

 

I guess your view (THE LEFT) of criminal activity POSSIBLY related to terrorism and conservatives are quite different. Looking through the spreadsheet list of charges shows quite the spectrum of POSSIBLE terror activity. Other than the 20 you admit have terror charges:

 

10 individuals with (fraud/theft of identity documents) - Forging papers for terrorists? Quite possible.

1 (makes or possesses counterfeited financial securities/notes/stocks/certificates) - Counterfeiting supporting terror? Quite possible.

 

All but a couple of those can and probably do tie back to terrorism. But then again, you support a 'wait and see' approach to the Syrian immigrants.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

 

I guess your view (THE LEFT) of criminal activity POSSIBLY related to terrorism and conservatives are quite different. Looking through the spreadsheet list of charges shows quite the spectrum of POSSIBLE terror activity. Other than the 20 you admit have terror charges:

 

10 individuals with (fraud/theft of identity documents) - Forging papers for terrorists? Quite possible.

1 (makes or possesses counterfeited financial securities/notes/stocks/certificates) - Counterfeiting supporting terror? Quite possible.

 

All but a couple of those can and probably do tie back to terrorism. But then again, you support a 'wait and see' approach to the Syrian immigrants.

And that's only the ones who have been caught.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

And that's only the ones who have been caught.

 

Exactly. But Sho, et al want to adopt a wait and see attitude for illegals/immigrants. Better to let them stay and commit crimes than kick their a$$ out preemptively. I wonder if he does that with termites at the house?

[Sho Nuff 720]

So now Mr. Mom is arguing with the US Senate on what a Terroist act is. Priceless!

 

No...the Senate didn't designate those things terrorist acts. CIS and your crappy sources spun their report into what was terrorist act vs other crimes.

[Baker Boy 1,710]

Over 1,000 refugees from these 7 countries have entered the US since a Stay was ordered on Trump's EO.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

I guess your view (THE LEFT) of criminal activity POSSIBLY related to terrorism and conservatives are quite different. Looking through the spreadsheet list of charges shows quite the spectrum of POSSIBLE terror activity. Other than the 20 you admit have terror charges:

 

10 individuals with (fraud/theft of identity documents) - Forging papers for terrorists? Quite possible.

1 (makes or possesses counterfeited financial securities/notes/stocks/certificates) - Counterfeiting supporting terror? Quite possible.

 

All but a couple of those can and probably do tie back to terrorism. But then again, you support a 'wait and see' approach to the Syrian immigrants.

 

They have terror charges of provding information to terrorists. Also vague. This could easily be as much as communicating with people suspected of terrorism.

You say quite possible...but it does not say that they were doing so for terrorists or providing to terrorists...it would mention that if that was the charge. But it wasn't.

You spin it to quite possible to make it sound as bad as possible...as the articles did with the actual report. Its hilarious watching the spin.

 

Can you just admit that list of 74 was spun by two highly biased sources? Or you think CIS and the Daily Caller are legit? Take your pick.

 

I support the vetting that has changed since many of those were even caught (as I said...notice the last date of charge is 2011). I support initiatives to strengthen our vetting. I don't support half assed plans to ban immigration without having any actual reason to do so (which is what Trump tried to do).

[Sho Nuff 720]

Over 1,000 refugees from these 7 countries have entered the US since a Stay was ordered on Trump's EO.

 

Yes...people already vetted and who were already approved prior to the ban.

Good job.

Its ok to admit you follow crappy sources and buy their spin because you are a focking far right hack who pretended to be a libertarian for years despite not knowing a damn thing about the libertarian platform.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

 

1. They have terror charges of provding information to terrorists. Also vague. This could easily be as much as communicating with people suspected of terrorism.
You say quite possible...but it does not say that they were doing so for terrorists or providing to terrorists...it would mention that if that was the charge. But it wasn't.
You spin it to quite possible to make it sound as bad as possible...as the articles did with the actual report. Its hilarious watching the spin.

2. Can you just admit that list of 74 was spun by two highly biased sources? Or you think CIS and the Daily Caller are legit? Take your pick.

I support the vetting that has changed since many of those were even caught (as I said...notice the last date of charge is 2011). I support initiatives to strengthen our vetting. I don't support half assed plans to ban immigration without having any actual reason to do so (which is what Trump tried to do).

1. And?!!!!!!! I don't care if it's vague or not. You're an immigrant (green card or not) who is associating with possible terrorists, then I'd rather the government look out for the rest of us and get that person the fock out.
2. Biased.......sure.