What if it's found that Trump did help the Russians

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

4 minutes ago, The Observer said:

pizza gate

Seth Rich

 

Almost as tinfoil hatty as Russia hacking the DNC or Trump colluding with Russia.........

[The Observer 641]

1 minute ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Almost as tinfoil hatty as Russia hacking the DNC or Trump colluding with Russia.........

Don McGahn, Hope Hicks, William Barr, financial records, tax returns.......refuse, claim immunity, refuse, refuse, refuse

Yeah, no cover up here.  Nope.  None at all.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,460]

Any headway in that Seth Rich case? Been a while. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

1 minute ago, The Observer said:

Don McGahn, Hope Hicks, William Barr, financial records, tax returns.......refuse, claim immunity, refuse, refuse, refuse

Yeah, no cover up here.  Nope.  None at all.

On what basis does Congress need testimony from those folks and tax/financial records for Trump? Testimony from those people might actually be obstruction of the current DOJ investigation into the FBI/CIA. The financial records/tax returns aren't to be used in search of a crime. You must produce evidence of a crime to launch an investigation.

[The Observer 641]

2 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

On what basis does Congress need testimony from those folks and tax/financial records for Trump? Testimony from those people might actually be obstruction of the current DOJ investigation into the FBI/CIA. The financial records/tax returns aren't to be used in search of a crime. You must produce evidence of a crime to launch an investigation.

Wrong. Congress has a responsibility of performing oversight over the executive branch. Plus, there's a ton of 'evidence" (not proof) already. They have every right to ask for everything they've asked for. Trump refused to be interviewed by Mueller because he knew he was either telling the truth and proving collusion or lying and getting nailed with perjury.

Trump had his boy, Barr, lie about the report. And then waited almost three weeks to release the redacted report. That's three weeks where his false narrative was out there for the public. The 'no collusion, no obstruction' lie.   Trump doesn't want McGhan telling the country that Trump told him to fire Mueller. He doesn't want lawyers to question Barr. It will make the cover up explode in his face. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Faux Newbie just as retarded, I'll give him that much.

Barr didn't have to produce ANYTHING of the report. And waiting 3 weeks...........that was because it took that long to identify what was Grand Jury material that is prohibited by Law to be released. Had Mueller identified that material as requested by Barr, it would have been released immediately. Why would Mueller refuse to identify it? Simple; he wanted the AG to release Grand Jury info or create the delay for stooges to point at saying "LOOK! It's taking 3 weeks! COVER UP!!!!"  Trump's been under the false narrative for 3 focking years about Russian collusion. 

[The Observer 641]

7 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Faux Newbie just as retarded, I'll give him that much.

Barr didn't have to produce ANYTHING of the report. And waiting 3 weeks...........that was because it took that long to identify what was Grand Jury material that is prohibited by Law to be released. Had Mueller identified that material as requested by Barr, it would have been released immediately. Why would Mueller refuse to identify it? Simple; he wanted the AG to release Grand Jury info or create the delay for stooges to point at saying "LOOK! It's taking 3 weeks! COVER UP!!!!"  Trump's been under the false narrative for 3 focking years about Russian collusion. 

Again, zero legit explanation on why Trump is stonewalling and covering up everything that congress wants to look into. Although, we both know why you don't have an answer for that. Because it's the biggest cover up in our country's history.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,460]

1 minute ago, The Observer said:

Again, zero legit explanation on why Trump is stonewalling and covering up everything that congress wants to look into. Although, we both know why you don't have an answer for that. Because it's the biggest cover up in our country's history.

You're getting on people for not answering things? Yup, shameless. 

[sderk 1,040]

3 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Again, zero legit explanation on why Trump is stonewalling and covering up everything that congress wants to look into. Although, we both know why you don't have an answer for that. Because it's the biggest cover up in our country's history.

Like I mentioned earlier. It's hard to win an argument against a really smart person, it's impossible to win an argument against an idiot.

And you be the idiot. So why bother trying? 

[The Observer 641]

30 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You're getting on people for not answering things? Yup, shameless. 

Dance monkey dance

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

34 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Again, zero legit explanation on why Trump is stonewalling and covering up everything that congress wants to look into. Although, we both know why you don't have an answer for that. Because it's the biggest cover up in our country's history.

Because he's already been investigated by the FBI, Fusion GPS, CIA, foreign intel, DOJ, etc and they came up with nothing. Just rejoice that some of us voted for the squeekiest clean candidate for POTUS EVER!

 

[drobeski 3,061]

1 hour ago, The Observer said:

Again, zero legit explanation on why Trump is stonewalling and covering up everything that congress wants to look into. Although, we both know why you don't have an answer for that. Because it's the biggest cover up in our country's history.

Will you feel better if he just deletes everything, gets his co-conspirators immunity and doesn't have to be interviewed under oath and notes taken? Is that what you need to feel he was investigated thoroughly? 

[Casual Observer 597]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WILL SOMEBODY JUST TELL ME HOW TRUMP HELPED THE RUSSIANS?

[drobeski 3,061]

2 hours ago, Casual Observer said:

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WILL SOMEBODY JUST TELL ME HOW TRUMP HELPED THE RUSSIANS?

thread winner

[sderk 1,040]

16 hours ago, Casual Observer said:

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WILL SOMEBODY JUST TELL ME HOW TRUMP HELPED THE RUSSIANS?

Let's wait for newbie to get out of his million dollar sales meeting, and after his standing ovation, and then after he checks himself in the mirror for about an hour or two, then he can tell us the truth about this. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

12 hours ago, sderk said:

Let's wait for newbie to get out of his million dollar sales meeting, and after his standing ovation, and then after he checks himself in the mirror for about and hour or two, then he can tell us the truth about this. 

Where does he work in the spray tan and frosted tips?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Quite obvious that Filthy has spurred newbie to read something on the subject rather than be spoonfed by cable TV. His ignorance is much better informed.

[sderk 1,040]

2 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Where does he work in the spray tan and frosted tips?

I hear they have a wicked juice bar right next door. And if you know the right people you can get 2% discount on all fruity juice drinks. Code word 'newbie'. 

[The Observer 641]

And Trump aid Felix Sater doesn't show up to testify.  Two days after Hope Hicks refuses to answer 150 questions. 

Nah. No cover up at all. Nothing to hide.

[drobeski 3,061]

5 minutes ago, The Observer said:

And Trump aid Felix Sater doesn't show up to testify.  Two days after Hope Hicks refuses to answer 150 questions. 

Nah. No cover up at all. Nothing to hide.

No do overs for sore losers 

[drobeski 3,061]

19 hours ago, drobeski said:

Will you feel better if he just deletes everything, gets his co-conspirators immunity and doesn't have to be interviewed under oath and notes taken? Is that what you need to feel he was investigated thoroughly? 

Bump..

[The Observer 641]

10 minutes ago, drobeski said:

No do overs for sore losers 

Like Benghazi and Hillary's emails? 

[drobeski 3,061]

Just now, The Observer said:

Like Benghazi and Hillary's emails? 

Never had a special counsel for those...it was almost like the justice department didnt care. 

Totally shocking....

[Baker Boy 1,699]

Nine Obama administration officials also invoked the Fifth Amendment. Here’s a list in case you forgot:

 

Who can forget about IRS Director, Lois Lerner who pled the Fifth Amendment twiceover allegations that the IRS had “targeted conservative nonprofit groups for additional scrutiny of their applications for tax-exempt status.”

 

The first time Lerner plead the Fifth Amendment was in May 2013, while appearing before the Senate Finance Committee. The second time Lerner pled the Fifth Amendment was in March 2014while appearing before the House Oversight Committee.

 

In April 2012, General Services Administration (GSA)’s Jeffrey Neelyinvoked his Fifth Amendment right when the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee called Neely to testify about improper spending.

 

Neely also invoked his Fifth Amendment right after photos emerged of Neely sitting in a bathtub with wine at GSA’s Western Regions Conference in 2010 in Las Vegas, which spent $822,000 in taxpayer money.

 

Patrick Cunningham, chief of the criminal division of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona, invoked his Fifth Amendment in January 2012in connection with the Fast and Furious scandal.

 

Deputy Director of the IRS Greg Roseman pled the Fifth in January 2013, after Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) started asking Roseman about “panel findings that he helped a friend procure potentially $500 million worth of IRS contracts.”

 

Then there is the formerState Department Employee Bryan Pagliano, who famously invoked his Fifth Amendment right over his involvement in setting up Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private email server in September 2015.

 

Former Department of Veterans Affairs officials John Sepulveda,Diana Rubens, and Kimberly Graves, as well as former Environmental Protection Agency official John Beale, all invoked their Fifth Amendment rights as well.

https://ntknetwork.com/flashback-nine-obama-administration-officials-who-pled-the-fifth-to-congress/

[drobeski 3,061]

2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Nine Obama administration officials also invoked the Fifth Amendment. Here’s a list in case you forgot:

 

Who can forget about IRS Director, Lois Lerner who pled the Fifth Amendment twiceover allegations that the IRS had “targeted conservative nonprofit groups for additional scrutiny of their applications for tax-exempt status.”

 

The first time Lerner plead the Fifth Amendment was in May 2013, while appearing before the Senate Finance Committee. The second time Lerner pled the Fifth Amendment was in March 2014while appearing before the House Oversight Committee.

 

In April 2012, General Services Administration (GSA)’s Jeffrey Neelyinvoked his Fifth Amendment right when the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee called Neely to testify about improper spending.

 

Neely also invoked his Fifth Amendment right after photos emerged of Neely sitting in a bathtub with wine at GSA’s Western Regions Conference in 2010 in Las Vegas, which spent $822,000 in taxpayer money.

 

Patrick Cunningham, chief of the criminal division of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona, invoked his Fifth Amendment in January 2012in connection with the Fast and Furious scandal.

 

Deputy Director of the IRS Greg Roseman pled the Fifth in January 2013, after Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) started asking Roseman about “panel findings that he helped a friend procure potentially $500 million worth of IRS contracts.”

 

Then there is the formerState Department Employee Bryan Pagliano, who famously invoked his Fifth Amendment right over his involvement in setting up Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private email server in September 2015.

 

Former Department of Veterans Affairs officials John Sepulveda,Diana Rubens, and Kimberly Graves, as well as former Environmental Protection Agency official John Beale, all invoked their Fifth Amendment rights as well.

https://ntknetwork.com/flashback-nine-obama-administration-officials-who-pled-the-fifth-to-congress/

Ouch

[The Observer 641]

Nope. Nothing to hide at all 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

22 minutes ago, The Observer said:

And Trump aid Felix Sater doesn't show up to testify.  Two days after Hope Hicks refuses to answer 150 questions. 

Nah. No cover up at all. Nothing to hide.

Felix Sater...........the FBI/CIA asset? Yeah, that guy should avoid testifying lest he expose anything the Obama admin was doing.

5 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Like Benghazi and Hillary's emails? 

Link to where there was an actual investigation? We've got evidence pointing towards the DOJ/FBI covering those crimes up but nothing indicating an actual investigation. In fact, they were 'Matters' according to Loretta Lynch.

[Baker Boy 1,699]

1 minute ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Felix Sater...........the FBI/CIA asset? Yeah, that guy should avoid testifying lest he expose anything the Obama admin was doing.

Link to where there was an actual investigation? We've got evidence pointing towards the DOJ/FBI covering those crimes up but nothing indicating an actual investigation. In fact, they were 'Matters' according to Loretta Lynch.

What difference at this point does it make? Hillary Clinton 2013

[The Observer 641]

Hillary. Obama. Hillary. Obama. Hillary. Obama.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

5 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Hillary. Obama. Hillary. Obama. Hillary. Obama.

"Who are the greatest criminals of this era?"

Alex Tribeck "Correct!"

[The Observer 641]

3 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

"Who are the greatest criminals of this era?"

Alex Tribeck "Correct!"

Nah. I'd say it's the one leading the biggest cover-up in u.s. political history at this very moment.

[Baker Boy 1,699]

Does anyone believe The Meat Head is really this stupid?

I guess this is the perfect marriage, Newbie loves riling up the board with outrageous stupid comments and the board loves arguing with a lightweight opponent who is rarely correct and always inaccurate. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

4 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

the board loves curb stomping retards. 

[The Observer 641]

37 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Does anyone believe The Meat Head is really this stupid?

I guess this is the perfect marriage, Newbie loves riling up the board with outrageous stupid comments and the board loves arguing with a lightweight opponent who is rarely correct and always inaccurate. 

So you're amongst the crowd who thinks that Trump refused to be interviewed by Mueller, and the White House is refusing to release tax returns, financial records, and not allowing Don mcgahn and William Barr to testify in front of Congress, and having hope Hicks claim absolute immunity so she doesn't have to answer questions, but they have nothing to hide?

And you're calling someone else stupid  Do I have that right?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

7 minutes ago, The Observer said:

So you're amongst the crowd who thinks that Trump refused to be interviewed by Mueller (even Mueller admits he got the information required in other ways), and the White House is refusing to release tax returns (for the purpose of finding what crime that Mueller didn't find?), financial records (for the purpose of finding what crime that Mueller didn't find?), and not allowing Don mcgahn (McGahn stated Trump didn't obstruct yet Mueller omitted that from his report.........why?) and William Barr (Barr did testify willingly. He balked at answering to staffers i.e. lawyers for Congress) to testify in front of Congress, and having hope Hicks claim absolute immunity so she doesn't have to answer questions, but they have nothing to hide? (What criminal activity would deem it necessary for Hicks to testify?)

Each point refuted.

You never did answer why Congress tried provoking Barr into breaking the law by releasing Grand Jury information. Why would Nadler and Pelosi demand he break the law?

[drobeski 3,061]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

Does anyone believe The Meat Head is really this stupid?

 

If he was given a second brain it would only make him twice as stupid.

[The Observer 641]

7 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Each point refuted.

You never did answer why Congress tried provoking Barr into breaking the law by releasing Grand Jury information. Why would Nadler and Pelosi demand he break the law?

Refuted horribly weakly.  Just admit that it's the biggest cover-up in US history and move on. The way it looks, he got away with everything. Take it as a win and talk about something else.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

3 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Refuted horribly weakly. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/felix-sater-on-trump-russia-and-being-a-spy-1188122691890

Felix's MSNBC's interview.

[The Observer 641]

37 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/felix-sater-on-trump-russia-and-being-a-spy-1188122691890

Felix's MSNBC's interview.

Trump had a lot to say about Russia too.  It's funny how people have a lot to say until they know that they'll go to jail if they lie. Suddenly they get very shy