TennisMenace 156 Posted September 17, 2017 A battle of the rookie RBs: Which would you rather have in a STANDARD league and why so? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,461 Posted September 17, 2017 Cohen. I think the messy Rb situation with the Hawks won't work itself out. I think Cohen simply will get more touches. Now in a non ppr it's a little closer because of tds, Howard will probably still get those touches. I like Carson I saw in the preseason what everyone else did, I just think that Carrol thinks he is the smartest man on earth and will make this situation a tough one for us in ff. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted September 17, 2017 Cohen. I think the messy Rb situation with the Hawks won't work itself out. I think Cohen simply will get more touches. Now in a non ppr it's a little closer because of tds, Howard will probably still get those touches. I like Carson I saw in the preseason what everyone else did, I just think that Carrol thinks he is the smartest man on earth and will make this situation a tough one for us in ff. I agree but I think it's very close. When Rawls gets injured I think Lacy is the odd man out. He's too slow to create behind that bad line. Carson will be the guy. Point being, I don't think the backfield is actually too messy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobjay00 22 Posted September 17, 2017 It seems simple to me... Carson in Standard Cohen in all PPR formats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 17, 2017 If you enjoy 5 carries, go Carson. He's a stash and wait, Cohen is a flex starter right now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbyn2022 53 Posted September 17, 2017 It seems simple to me... Carson in Standard Cohen in all PPR formats This for sure but I think Carson upside could be insane. Cohen to me can't be a bellcow but I think Carson can. Cohen will have some big games but some busy ones as well. When's the last time someone as small as him been a fantasy stud? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Challenger 72 Posted September 17, 2017 Wow, you guys have short memory. Carson is Rawl 2.0 Rawl had better showing, was in better situation and couldn't done anything. Give me Cohen all day any day. Howard replaced Langford once he showed he is the better back in Chicago. We didn't need to wait years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcgruber 17 Posted September 17, 2017 Even if rawls gets hurt again and carson has the backfield to himself with prosise handling 3rd down work, i'd still rather start cohen in either format. I guess I just don't see the love for carson. he's an average talent running behind a below average O-line. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donkey 34 Posted September 17, 2017 Gimme Cohen. I'd rather have a hand in the bush than two somewhere else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted September 17, 2017 Even if rawls gets hurt again and carson has the backfield to himself with prosise handling 3rd down work, i'd still rather start cohen in either format. I guess I just don't see the love for carson. he's an average talent running behind a below average O-line. I've never seen him run but apparently he has run well in preseason and the only guy to have success behind that lousy OL. So why can he be successful behind that lousy OL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcgruber 17 Posted September 17, 2017 I've never seen him run but apparently he has run well in preseason and the only guy to have success behind that lousy OL. So why can he be successful behind that lousy OL? He did have a good preseason and combine, but he was mediocre in college (i watch a lot of big12) and I wouldn't really call one run of 30 yards success behind that line. The rest were duds. Basically I'm judging the guy off one small NFL sample size and some college games. Probably not the best call, but hey that's how I see it. I also think Jamaal Charles could have over 1500 yards if CJ Anderson gets hurt, so taking advice from me probably isn't the best! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoOnAtIk 75 Posted September 17, 2017 If you enjoy 5 carries, go Carson. He's a stash and wait, Cohen is a flex starter right now. Lol Carson was on the field way more than any other RB for Hawks week 1. Rawls is already with the same foot issues that have troubled him his entire career. Cohen is listed at 5'6" so idk see any scenario where he can be anything more than a scatback, regardless of how Howard plays. Give me Carson in both formats. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gpann101 32 Posted September 18, 2017 Don't think Cohen could hold his own if he had Hawks o-line to work with. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Challenger 72 Posted September 18, 2017 Don't think Cohen could hold his own if he had Hawks o-line to work with. If I had Mark Cuban's luck, I wouldn't be posting here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted September 18, 2017 Lol Carson was on the field way more than any other RB for Hawks week 1. Rawls is already with the same foot issues that have troubled him his entire career. Cohen is listed at 5'6" so idk see any scenario where he can be anything more than a scatback, regardless of how Howard plays. Give me Carson in both formats. I wish I had listened to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 18, 2017 Lol Carson was on the field way more than any other RB for Hawks week 1. Rawls is already with the same foot issues that have troubled him his entire career. Cohen is listed at 5'6" so idk see any scenario where he can be anything more than a scatback, regardless of how Howard plays. Give me Carson in both formats. Yep, Carson is completely the guy there now, I was dead wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted September 18, 2017 Carson wins? Jordan Howard was in a sling after the game. Cohen is the guy behind an infinitely better line. He's also going to lead the team in receptions. But I guess that's not worth anything suddenly? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted September 18, 2017 Carson wins? Jordan Howard was in a sling after the game. Cohen is the guy behind an infinitely better line. He's also going to lead the team in receptions. But I guess that's not worth anything suddenly? The big problem with Cohen is if you play in a standard league. Those 8 dumpoffs get you zilch, as it should be. So basically he is a 5-8 guy most games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 19, 2017 After one game everyone is giving up on Cohenamo <-- just made that chit up...short for Cohen & Dynamo.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[echo] 72 Posted September 19, 2017 just made that chit up... stop doing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erock216 5 Posted September 19, 2017 I got Carson and Buck Allen last week! Jah bless my league! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Challenger 72 Posted September 19, 2017 Well, good luck guys, I hope Carson is not Rawl 2.0. I remember the excitement in the exact same situation. I still rather have Cohen. He is a better back in a better situation. I don't know why people keep brining up he is tiny. He is small, but he is awesome because he is small. If that's the only thing you can list as his weakness, you know he is the running back to pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted September 19, 2017 Well, good luck guys, I hope Carson is not Rawl 2.0. I remember the excitement in the exact same situation. I still rather have Cohen. He is a better back in a better situation. I don't know why people keep brining up he is tiny. He is small, but he is awesome because he is small. If that's the only thing you can list as his weakness, you know he is the running back to pick. Agreed. He's short but weighs 190. All muscle. Meaning, dude is a mini tank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 19, 2017 I'm starting him over White this week. Expecting a dynamite performance from Cohenamite... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted September 19, 2017 Agreed. He's short but weighs 190. All muscle. Meaning, dude is a mini tank.Not to be a di ck but several sources I inquired had him at 180 give or take a few. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/12322/tarik-cohen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted September 19, 2017 Not to be a di ck but several sources I inquired had him at 180 give or take a few. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/12322/tarik-cohen Fake news. He's 189. Honestly, doesn't matter. Dude is thick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[echo] 72 Posted September 19, 2017 Fake news. He's 189. Honestly, doesn't matter. Dude is thick. umm.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoOnAtIk 75 Posted September 19, 2017 Carson wins? Jordan Howard was in a sling after the game. Cohen is the guy behind an infinitely better line. He's also going to lead the team in receptions. But I guess that's not worth anything suddenly? Cohen had a great game but to my point last week, even with opportunity rearing its head like now with Howard hurt, I don't think Cohen can be the guy to tote the rock he's too small. I think 15 touches per game is his ceiling with or without Howard. And to play devils advocate to myself, Chris Carson has had injury issues all through out his college career and if you watch his running style, it's only a matter of time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 19, 2017 Cohen had a great game but to my point last week, even with opportunity rearing its head like now with Howard hurt, I don't think Cohen can be the guy to tote the rock he's too small. I think 15 touches per game is his ceiling with or without Howard. And to play devils advocate to myself, Chris Carson has had injury issues all through out his college career and if you watch his running style, it's only a matter of time 15 touches comes out to 240 for the year. That's plenty...the average RB2 backs average about 200-280 touches. So about 80-100 yards, 6-7 reception and sprinkle in a TD here and there...and BAM! That's RB2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoOnAtIk 75 Posted September 19, 2017 15 touches comes out to 240 for the year. That's plenty...the average RB2 backs average about 200-280 touches. So about 80-100 yards, 6-7 reception and sprinkle in a TD here and there...and BAM! That's RB2. I think you skipped over the word "CEILING" He's not going to get 15 per game. That's best case scenario in my opinion from week to week. That makes him Theo Riddick and Chris Thompson. AKA a headache. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hotgumbo1 12 Posted September 19, 2017 I got Carson and Buck Allen last week! Jah bless my league! Happens in 4 team leagues. Must be nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted September 19, 2017 So, here I am again........and the same question presents itself.....who is more valuable (can get me more points)....Cohen or Carson? It seems to me there is no one right answer......you just take a chance and hope for the best. I could draft Carson but if I do, I have to let Cohen go. I can't own them both. So, I have one more night to ponder this all, just as I did last Tuesday night. Yes, I do love this stuff....as I know you do as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,461 Posted September 20, 2017 Ppr league I really like Cohen more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 20, 2017 So, here I am again........and the same question presents itself.....who is more valuable (can get me more points)....Cohen or Carson? It seems to me there is no one right answer......you just take a chance and hope for the best. I could draft Carson but if I do, I have to let Cohen go. I can't own them both. So, I have one more night to ponder this all, just as I did last Tuesday night. Yes, I do love this stuff....as I know you do as well. The right answer will be revealed at the end of the year when the numbers are in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 20, 2017 I think you skipped over the word "CEILING" He's not going to get 15 per game. That's best case scenario in my opinion from week to week. That makes him Theo Riddick and Chris Thompson. AKA a headache. Got 13 in week one Got 15 in week two I say he gets 20 in week three *Howard is hurt* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites