***American History Draft***

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,307]

Better get a ruling on Sonny & Cher now.

 

 

Right after Salt & Peppa.

 

no it specifically says band/singer

 

band would qualify singing duos

[Hardcore troubadour 15,223]

 

 

 

no it specifically says band/singer

 

band would qualify singing duos

So you can't take Simon and Garfunkel? Just Simon or the other guy?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,307]

So you can't take Simon and Garfunkel? Just Simon or the other guy?

 

no they are a "band" imo

[Voltaire 5,280]

American History Draft

 

1.1 Volty Thomas Edison - Inventor

1.2 RHR George Washington - Wildcard

1.3 shotsup Abraham Lincoln - President

1.4 TBBOM Thomas Jefferson - President

1.5 90sbaby Henry Ford - Businessman

1.6 ZeroT Benjamin Franklin - Wildcard

1.7 vudu Albert Einstein - Physics

1.8 5Points John Adams - Thinker/Philosopher

2.1 5Points The Wright Brothers - Inventor

2.2 vudu Dwight D Eisenhower - General

2.3 ZeroT Franklin D Roosevelt - President

2.4 90sbaby John D. Rockefeller - Wildcard

2.5 TBBOM James Madison - thinker/philosopher

2.6 shotsup George Patton - General

2.7 RHR Martin Luther King Jr. - African American

2.8 Volty Mark Twain - Fiction Writer

3.1 Volty Merriweather Lewis and William Clark - Explorer

3.2 RHR Walt Disney - Business

3.3 shotsup Theodore Roosevelt - Wildcard

3.4 TBBOM J. Robert Oppenheimer - Physics

3.5 90sbaby Steve Wozniak - Inventor

3.6 ZeroT Alexander Hamilton - Cabinet

3.7 vudu Muhammad Ali - African American

3.8 5Points Andrew Carnegie - Businessman

4.1 5Points Al Capone - Criminal

4.2 vudu George Eastman - Inventor

4.3 ZeroT J.P. Morgan - Businessman

4.4 90sbaby Nikola Tesla - Engineer

4.5 TBBOM Chester Nimitz - Admiral

4.6 shotsup John Gotti - Criminal

4.7 RHR John Marshall - SCOTUS

4.8 Volty Henry Clay Sr. - Congressman

5.1 Volty Jonas Salk - Scientist (Other)

5.2 RHR Ulysses S. Grant - General

5.3 shotsup Andy Warhol - Visual Artist

5.4 TBBOM Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin - Explorers

5.5 90sbaby Donald Trump - Wildcard

5.6 ZeroT Alexander Graham Bell - Inventor

5.7 vudu Babe Ruth - Baseball

5.8 5Points Daniel Boone - Pioneer

6.1 5Points Ansel Adams - Visual Artist

6.2 vudu Michael Jordan Basketball

6.3 ZeroT Elvis Presley - Singer

6.4 90sbaby Barrack Obama - Fail

6.5 TBBOM Marilyn Monroe - Seductress

6.6 shotsup Michael Jackson. Singer

6.7 RHR Jackie Robinson (Reformer)

6.8 Volty Jim Thorpe - Athlete (Other)

7.1 Volty New York Yankees - Sports Team

7.2 RHR Gregory Pincus (Science)

7.3 shotsup Buzz Aldrin - Explorer

7.4 TBBOM Harry Houdini - Other performing Artist

7.5 90sbaby Tubgirl -Performing Artist (Other)

7.6 ZeroT Ernest Hemingway - Fiction Writer

7.7 vudu

7.8 5Points

8.1 5Points

8.2 vudu

8.3 ZeroT

8.4 90sbaby

8.5 TBBOM

8.6 shotsup

8.7 RHR

8.8 Volty

[Voltaire 5,280]

vudu up, then 5 Points.

 

90sbaby graciously requested we skip him rather than allow him to hold up the draft and gets his makeup picks whenever.

[Voltaire 5,280]

not doing a full update right now, on the weekends are when I'm most busy with work and you guys need more patience and have to work a bit harder to find stuff.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

vudu up, then 5 Points.

 

90sbaby graciously requested we skip him rather than allow him to hold up the draft and gets his makeup picks whenever.

Apply the same to me. Just skip me, Ill pick when I wake up.

[Voltaire 5,280]

TBBOM contacted me about the "Colonial Era" category. We'll need to flesh that one out. What I was thinking was looking for settlers/colonists mostly, TBBOM wasked about esxplorers that were of other nationalities and I wasn't terribly excited by the notion. I'm thinking if they settled in the New World somewhere in what became the US for five years or if they died here, we could accept that.

Anyway, that was my thinking when I made the category.

I was hoping to find some way to have it not overrun with founding fathers but on the other, don't know how to word that and frankly, don't even know if I should.

Another note, people that died before the Constition were not US citizens (well, maybe they were under the Articles of Confederation too dunno). Anyway the point is that colonists (and the Native Americanss) of that time can be drafted in their special set adise category or other categories as well.

[vuduchile 1,945]

7.7 John Smith Explorer

[shotsup 832]

 

What is weak is threatening to quit unless you get your way and then turning around and stealing half my pick.

The way that went down was this. I actually picked John Wilkes Booth as criminal. Joked that my criminal killed my President.

Someone JOKED that I should not get both (3 names). I JOKED back fine I'll take Buzz Aldrin as he became available- I guess Volty didn't take it as a JOKE - I didn't complain since I said it and since I made the big deal.

[5-Points 3,462]

7.8 Samuel Colt - Businessman

 

 

Colt's U.S. revolver patent gave him a monopoly on revolver manufacture until 1857.^[15] His was the first practical revolver and the first practical repeating firearm, thanks to progress made in percussion technology. No longer a mere novelty arm, the revolver became an industrial and cultural legacy as well as a contribution to the development of war technology, ironically personified in the name of one of his company's later innovations, the "Peacemaker".

 

 

 

8.1 Dallas Cowboys - Sports Team

 

America's Team

[vuduchile 1,945]

7.8 Samuel Colt - Businessman

 

 

 

8.1 Dallas Cowboys - Sports Team

 

America's Team

Damn you!

[vuduchile 1,945]

8.2 Sitting Bull - Native American

 

Helped lead the natives to defeat Custer and was otherwise a fascinating man and leader.

 

Worth reading up on if youre so inclined.

[iam90sbaby 2,559]

7.5 - Wayne Gretzky - Hockey/Sports

[ZeroTolerance 584]

8.3 - Thomas Paine - Thinker/Philosopher

[Voltaire 5,280]

8.3 - Thomas Paine - Thinker/Philosopher

Nice!

[Voltaire 5,280]

7.5 - Wayne Gretzky - Hockey/Sports

Gretzky is Canadian

 

So are Gordie Howe, Bobby Orr, and many others.

 

Be careful with hockey players.

[5-Points 3,462]

8.3 - Thomas Paine - Thinker/Philosopher

Good, common sense pick.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,307]

Gretzky is Canadian

 

So are Gordie Howe, Bobby Orr, and many others.

 

Be careful with hockey players.

 

I personally think anyone that played in the NBA/NFL/MLB/NHL should be considered in sports players category

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,307]

Shots is up

[Voltaire 5,280]

 

I personally think anyone that played in the NBA/NFL/MLB/NHL should be considered in sports players category

Does anybody agree? Clearly 90sbaby. That would completely overhaul my hockey list for sure.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,307]

Does anybody agree? Clearly 90sbaby. That would completely overhaul my hockey list for sure.

 

I understand the citizen thing, but an American History draft should also be able to have the guy "who founded America" even though he didn't isn't eligible

[ZeroTolerance 584]

I thought we were going with American citizenship = ok. Gretzky has dual citizenship.

[5-Points 3,462]

I thought we were going with American citizenship = ok. Gretzky has dual citizenship.

That's what I thought. Anybody who, at any time, became an American. Dual citizenship counts.

[shotsup 832]

08.06 Secretariat Athlete (Other)

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,307]

8.07 PT Barnum - Performance Artist

[Voltaire 5,280]

I thought we were going with American citizenship = ok. Gretzky has dual citizenship.

I didn't know that, I had to look it up just now. He 's from Canada and never played on the US team, on;y Canada at the Olympics, so having not know that he got duel citizenship... I bet there's a few others like this.

[Voltaire 5,280]

We just had a horse drafted. Another one to throw to the fellas.

[ZeroTolerance 584]

It amused me, therefore I'll allow it.

[iam90sbaby 2,559]

We just had a horse drafted. Another one to throw to the fellas.

As long as it was bred in America and trained it should definitely count.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,307]

We just had a horse drafted. Another one to throw to the fellas.

 

I agree with Secretariat completely, hes always listed in top 100 athlete lists

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,307]

pick Volty I have to leave in about 30 mins for the day

[iam90sbaby 2,559]

8.4 - Alfred Hitchcock - Director

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,307]

Steal of the Draft right there 90's if you didn't pander with the garbage earlier, you would be killing it

[iam90sbaby 2,559]

Steal of the Draft right there 90's if you didn't pander with the garbage earlier, you would be killing it

 

It's not an American history draft without a little pandering.

[5-Points 3,462]

 

 

TBBOM contacted me about the "Colonial Era" category. We'll need to flesh that one out. What I was thinking was looking for settlers/colonists mostly, TBBOM wasked about esxplorers that were of other nationalities and I wasn't terribly excited by the notion. I'm thinking if they settled in the New World somewhere in what became the US for five years or if they died here, we could accept that.

Anyway, that was my thinking when I made the category.

I was hoping to find some way to have it not overrun with founding fathers but on the other, don't know how to word that and frankly, don't even know if I should.

Another note, people that died before the Constition were not US citizens (well, maybe they were under the Articles of Confederation too dunno). Anyway the point is that colonists (and the Native Americanss) of that time can be drafted in their special set adise category or other categories as well.

I guess I'll chime in here. The colonial era category should be limited to colonial era Americans in my opinion. There are plenty to choose from without including foreign explorers who didn't settle here. I know the title is "American History Draft" but it's really a "U.S. History Draft" at heart.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,223]

If a horse counts, do the Harlem Globetrotters count too?

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

8.5 - Francis Scott Key - composer

[Voltaire 5,280]

8.8 Horace Mann - Educator

 

 

wikipedia cut and paste

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Horace Mann (May 4, 1796 – August 2, 1859) was an American educational reformer and Whigpolitician dedicated to promoting public education. A central theme of his life was that "it is the law of our nature to desire happiness. This law is not local, but universal; not temporary, but eternal. It is not a law to be proved by exceptions, for it knows no exception."^[1] He served in the Massachusetts State legislature (1827–1837). In 1848, after public service as Secretary of the Massachusetts State Board of Education, Mann was elected to the United States House of Representatives (1848–1853). From September 1852 to his death, he served as President of Antioch College.

About Mann's intellectual progressivism, the historian Ellwood P. Cubberley said:

No one did more than he to establish in the minds of the American people the conception that education should be universal, non-sectarian, free, and that its aims should be social efficiency, civic virtue, and character, rather than mere learning or the advancement of education ends.^[2]

Arguing that universal public education was the best way to turn unruly American children into disciplined, judicious republican citizens, Mann won widespread approval from modernizers, especially in the Whig Party, for building public schools. Most states adopted a version of the system Mann established in Massachusetts, especially the program for normal schools to train professional teachers.^[3] Educational historians credit Horace Mann as father of the Common School Movement.^[4]

[Voltaire 5,280]

gimme a second on the next one, weekends set back my research. I was going to go with a hockey player but I don't right now know if Canadians are allowed or if there are more duel citizens like Gretzky that'll screw me over.