FFer 11 Posted September 25, 2019 Who are you dropping to get him? Is he better than Kyler? Was thinking of dropping Kyler for Jones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted September 25, 2019 I wouldn't go THAT far, but if you're currently sporting a non-top-10 QB and you have someone you can drop relatively painlessly, he seems like someone to take a shot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 25, 2019 I’m looking to pick him up as backup to Goff. But I have to drop nothing of value to get him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil Simms 11 said: I’m looking to pick him up as backup to Goff. But I have to drop nothing of value to get him in that scenario, you have nothing to lose. go get him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zftcg 84 Posted September 25, 2019 He's a lottery ticket. Don't assume anything -- odds are he won't be a consistent fantasy producer, since rookie QBs rarely are. But he definitely has upside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi Sensei 17 Posted September 25, 2019 I think he's a good, young QB that helps the Giants win more games this year. For fantasy?? Above Cousins below Goff -- maybe on par. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted September 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, Jedi Sensei said: For fantasy?? Above Cousins below Goff -- maybe on par. That's kind of a narrow window, with Goff at QB20 and Cousins at QB24. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted September 25, 2019 His value is already higher then the Qb that mocked the Gmen for drafting him. That would be Mayfield. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vino 21 Posted September 25, 2019 6 hours ago, FFer said: Who are you dropping to get him? Is he better than Kyler? Was thinking of dropping Kyler for Jones. I'm dropping Garoppolo for him. Not a big stretch, Garoppolo is on a bye. Is he better than Kyler, who knows, Daniel's ran one game? They run two different offenses. I think if they switched offenses, neither would be good. But after one week, who the heck knows. It's all about taking a chance at this point. You have an idea of 3 games with Kyler and one with Jones. Flip your coin. Same with with Jones vs Allen atm. Both of them have made their TE and WR look better after one game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 25, 2019 5 hours ago, weepaws said: His value is already higher then the Qb that mocked the Gmen for drafting him. That would be Mayfield. Perceived value? Or he is actually better? I will say that Jones may out score Mayfield this year due to schedule and Kitchens having the offense out of sorts. Long term though, if anyone wants to bet on Jones over Mayfield, you will lose that bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 25, 2019 He went for 18%, 13% and 12% in my leagues. I got him with the 12% in league where I have Goff, I was the only bid though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mgs316 14 Posted September 25, 2019 Terrible defense and always playing catch-up, garbage time stats! Decent/good skill position guys. Just grabbed him, dropped the artist formally known as Darwin Thompson. Rodgers gets one more week to prove he isn't complete trash, then it's the DJ show for my squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer 84 Posted September 25, 2019 I drafted him in the second round of my Dynasty Rookie Drafts and promptly put him on my Taxi Squad. Now I can't use him until next season. In one of them, I could seriously use him as a QB. As for the competition between he and Mayfield: I wouldn't discount Jones as being the better long term QB. His pedigree is pretty awesome. He didn't have the WR's, line or Head Coach that Baker did, which hurt his numbers in college. He doesn't throw as hard as Mayfield and he's certainly not as cocky. All that said, his scouting report states he does something Baker has NEVER done, he will go through his reads. He will look over the defense and look off his primary target. Baker, while a great young QB, still locks onto his primary target and will stare them down. I think that is as much of his issue as his Head Coach. Hopefully both are great as the NFL is much more fun with great QB's and qb rivalries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted September 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Baker, while a great young QB, still locks onto his primary target and will stare them down. I think that is as much of his issue as his Head Coach. Hopefully both are great as the NFL is much more fun with great QB's and qb rivalries. yeah, this is a problem. another Cleveland QB who did this: Couch. Remember him? after about a year, defenses had him figured out and his career went nowhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer 84 Posted September 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, Ray_T said: yeah, this is a problem. another Cleveland QB who did this: Couch. Remember him? after about a year, defenses had him figured out and his career went nowhere. I was a fan of Tim Couch. He did have the same issue. Very similar issues otherwise too. Both had bad offensive lines and Couch became gun-shy. He looked great until their was some tape on him, then he struggled mightily, especially once teams realized he would lock onto one player. Double cover that guy and blitz. His career was over before it got started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted September 25, 2019 I'd argue that Baker has a bit more talent (and running ability) but yeah, my concern is the same issue. you can draw a lot of similarities between the two situations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
