I find it hard to not see trans as mental illness...

[The Real timschochet 6,015]

2 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

What would a DNA test on a sample from a trans person tell you about their sex?  
 

We both know the answer but that’s the point. You’re asking me to believe an opinion and I’m choosing to believe what science tells us. I used the chromosome argument, I can use DNA as a substantive case, there is nothing other than someone’s feeling to counter it. 

We’re not getting anywhere. You’re attempting to use layman’s logic to explain mental conditions and what is or is not an illness. I reject your entire premise. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,702]

Remember they used to give lobotomies to mentally ill people? How did that work out? Cue stupid response in 3, 2……

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MAGAS love the little trannies
All the trannies of the world
Luscious lips and creamy thights
They are precious in their eyes
MAGAs love the little trannies of the world

[KSB2424 3,141]

2 hours ago, Beaker15 said:

It is not surprising that the folks in here who aren't very bright don’t believe that trans is a mental illness.

What a thought provoking and informative post!  You really changed my mind.  You must be really smart. 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m not a scientist or a doctor but I’m referring you to them. They almost unanimously agree this is not a mental illness. I don’t think they’re relying on feelings. 

Alright.  Can you answer this question for me?  Do you think pedophiles are mentally ill?

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45 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Two things:

1. I respect the attempt, not the best, but it's much better than most responses. 

2. It's funny, just today at my company we had to take an HR e-learning module.  1 out of every 3 "scenarios" where they were talking about at work discrimination, bullying, things you should go to HR, etc.  there was a Trans person as the main character.  It's been the trendy, new and cool "marginalized" group the past few years and thus.....everywhere.  No one is obsessed, they are just commenting on what's out there in the mainstream.  Duh.

With my company we have to do the good ol' harassment training course annually, and it's the scenarios they set up in there that are comical, particularly the gay and trans ones.

The all-American men-harassing-women scenarios go something like this:

John: Damn, Tanya, your teets look magnificant today, and you're ass is rocking like a Metallica concert.

Tanya: Um, uh, thanks, I guess.

John: Tanya, you wanna come over to my apartment tonight for some whiskey, fentanyl and butt sex? Man, I'll plow you old school like an 1800s farmer with a mule and a hoe.

QUIZ

WHAT SHOULD TANYA DO HERE?

A.) Just chalk it up to John being John but politely decline.

B.) Go over to John's apartment, because, hell, she hasn't been laid in years.

C.) Do nothing.

D.) Go rub the kitty in the women's restroom for some relief.

E.) Report him to human resources immediately.

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11 minutes ago, Beaker15 said:

Alright.  Can you answer this question for me?  Do you think pedophiles are mentally ill?

They're seriously sick and criminal.

Trans people are committing no crime by being trans.

This trans-pedophile comparison is stupid.

What one identifies with sexually isn't the same thing as being a kid toucher.

[KSB2424 3,141]

16 minutes ago, Beaker15 said:

Alright.  Can you answer this question for me?  Do you think pedophiles are mentally ill?

I just got off the shitter whilst posting.  To my dismay I read your original post wrong and retract my statement.  I thought you were on the other side of said issue.  We are in agreement.

Mental illness is a broad term (spectrum) of all sorts of disorders.  Some fairly minute while others deadly.  From OCD, Anxiety, Bi-Polar, Eating disorders, Phobias, schizophrenia and on.  For some reason "feeling or believing" that your body/gender is of another biological body/gender than you are actually in somehow doesn't fall in this category is frankly incredible.  

Again, that doesn't mean said person with any of these afflictions aren't human and deserve to be respected.  However we normally don't throw parades for dudes with OCD or chicks with Anorexia.  

[iam90sbaby 2,370]

38 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

What would a DNA test on a sample from a trans person tell you about their sex?  
 

We both know the answer but that’s the point. You’re asking me to believe an opinion and I’m choosing to believe what science tells us. I used the chromosome argument, I can use DNA as a substantive case, there is nothing other than someone’s feeling to counter it. 

Tim said on this bored about 6-7 months ago that he would fock a tranny, he’s mentally ill himself, no point in arguing with him. Just sh!t on him and move on 

[KSB2424 3,141]

31 minutes ago, Tebok said:

They're seriously sick and criminal.

Trans people are committing no crime by being trans.

This trans-pedophile comparison is stupid.

What one identifies with sexually isn't the same thing as being a kid toucher.

100% agreed.  When your mental illness affects only yourself, cool, but when it affects others in a harmful way that is bad.  Pedo's who sit at home and daydream of touching kids while jerking off is frankly okay in a society, as soon as they try to groom, influence, or actually touch a kid.  All bets are off, hang em'.

And this may make you uncomfortable in the analogy but most folks don't really care if some person born a man, turns into a woman by the way they dress, talk, act and by way of surgery.  To each their own, live your life and be happy. 

But when they try to affect others, the moms and dads perk up.  Why is there a Transgender reads to elementary students day at the local school?  Let's write how cool Trans people are in books and put them in elementary school libraries. Let's fly the Tans Flag high and we have to be normalized!@#!

That stuff doesn't fly Holmes. Moms and Dad's aren't having it.

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1 minute ago, KSB2424 said:

100% agreed.  When your mental illness affects only yourself, cool, but when it affects others in a harmful way that is bad.  Pedo's who sit at home and daydream of touching kids while jerking off is frankly okay in a society, as soon as they try to groom or influence or actually touch a kid.  All bets are off, hang em'.

And this may make you uncomfortable in the analogy but most folks don't really care if some person born a man, turns into a woman by the way they dress, talk, act and by way of surgery.  To each their own, live your life and be happy.  But when they try to affect others, the moms and dads perk up.  Why is there a Trans reads to elementary students day at the local school?  Let's write how cool Trans people are in books and put them in elementary school libraries. Let fly the flags and push it down throats.

That stuff doesn't fly Holmes. 

Let's not dismiss all trans people just because a tiny fraction of them read books in libraries.

More MAGA baby-with-the-bathwater mindset.

Would love to see them apply that same mentality to all Republicans just because Matt Gaetz is a kid diddler.

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1 minute ago, Tebok said:

Let's not dismiss all trans people just because a tiny fraction of them read books in libraries.

More MAGA baby-with-the-bathwater mindset.

Would love to see them apply that same mentality to all Republicans just because Matt Gaetz is a kid diddler.

Oh yeah. Biden is a baby diddler. 

But then again, so are all libs. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,712]

6 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

100% agreed.  When your mental illness affects only yourself, cool, but when it affects others in a harmful way that is bad.  Pedo's who sit at home and daydream of touching kids while jerking off is frankly okay in a society, as soon as they try to groom, influence, or actually touch a kid.  All bets are off, hang em'.

And this may make you uncomfortable in the analogy but most folks don't really care if some person born a man, turns into a woman by the way they dress, talk, act and by way of surgery.  To each their own, live your life and be happy. 

But when they try to affect others, the moms and dads perk up.  Why is there a Transgender reads to elementary students day at the local school?  Let's write how cool Trans people are in books and put them in elementary school libraries. Let's fly the Tans Flag high and we have to be normalized!@#!

That stuff doesn't fly Holmes. Moms and Dad's aren't having it.

 Yep, let's rewrite history too to make it look like trans people have always been around in large numbers since the caveman times and it was "perfectly normal" back then too boot.

[Fireballer 2,634]

1 hour ago, Tebok said:

MAGAS love the little trannies
All the trannies of the world
Luscious lips and creamy thights
They are precious in their eyes
MAGAs love the little trannies of the world

The Dems are so obsessed with trannies that Joe had to sign an EO his 2nd day in office to lock them into accessing women’s sports and bathrooms.  But, it is kinda cute that you’re trying to deflect the obsession on MAGA.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,712]

Just now, Fireballer said:

The Dems are so obsessed with trannies that Joe had to sign an EO his 2nd day in office to lock them into women’s sports and bathrooms.  But, it is kinda cute that you’re trying to deflect the obsession on MAGA.

Imagine being a grown man and reciting what he did?  He literally sounds like he's deflecting and trying not to make it look like he's the one that really wants them.  Yeesh.  Gross. 

What a f'n retard.

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1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

The Dems are so obsessed with trannies that Joe had to sign an EO his 2nd day in office to lock them into accessing women’s sports and bathrooms.  But, it is kinda cute that you’re trying to deflect the obsession on MAGA.

Any how many tranny threads have the MAGA mooks created on this message board?

[Fireballer 2,634]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

They didn’t convince me with any argument. They don’t need to. All they have to do is say that the science points in that direction, and I accept their word for it.

Well, at least it’s out there now… you have no ability to critically analyze issues, no matter what’s placed in front of you.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,702]

That actress Cynthia Nixon is proof that much of this is a social contagion.  Like Grunge or Disco. 

[KSB2424 3,141]

28 minutes ago, Tebok said:

Let's not dismiss all trans people just because a tiny fraction of them read books in libraries.

More MAGA baby-with-the-bathwater mindset.

Would love to see them apply that same mentality to all Republicans just because Matt Gaetz is a kid diddler.

1. You gotta stop with the instant "MAGA" reaction. It just reeks of TDS, most people just live their life through values and vote however that turns out.

2. Here's la ittle hint. I'm going to speak for myself but I do believe others feel the same. I'm not "dismissing" Trans people.  They are who they are and I hope they find peace and happiness.  My angst is more to the woke school board members, the woke white women and beta males who create spaces for mentally ill people to engage with kids.  I don't hate the pit bull, he is who he is, I hate the pit bull owner who brings him to the 6 year old birthday party. 

[shorepatrol 1,863]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

 I reject reality and believe what msm tells me. I am a basement dweller with no life 

Finally you admit it. 

[WhiteWonder 2,634]

24 minutes ago, Tebok said:

Let's not dismiss all trans people just because a tiny fraction of them read books in libraries.

More MAGA baby-with-the-bathwater mindset.

Would love to see them apply that same mentality to all Republicans just because Matt Gaetz is a kid diddler.

The guy you quoted for this post repeatedly said he doesn’t dismiss trans people. Said they are people deserving of respect like any other person with a mental disorder. 
it’s more than just reading books to kids in libraries but again, a lot of people in this thread are not dismissing trans people 

[Fireballer 2,634]

19 minutes ago, Tebok said:

Any how many tranny threads have the MAGA mooks created on this message board?

Tebok:  Youre making too many threads about how stupid we are!

I’ll tell you a secret, as soon as the Left decides to stop its assault on sensibility and objective truth, these threads will die a quick death.  Just stop giving us material.

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26 minutes ago, Tebok said:

Any how many tranny threads have the MAGA mooks created on this message board?

Poor Rusty. 

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1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

Tebok:  Youre making too many threads about how stupid we are!

I’ll tell you a secret, as soon as the Left decides to stop its assault on sensibility and objective truth, these threads will die a quick death.  Just stop giving us material.

The only thread I've ever started here in 20 years is the 2025 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame thread I posted the other day.

I don't consider that "making too many threads about how stupid we are!"

So, I have conclusively proven you to be a liar, unless you can find another thread I started.

Quit lying!

See this is how you prove someone is lying.

 

[Tebok 168]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

Poor Rusty. 

There's that RDS again!

Four years after his last post, and he still has you triggered.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,702]

1 minute ago, Tebok said:

There's that RDS again!

Four years after his last post, and he still has you triggered.

Unoriginal. Just like Rusty was.  

[Tebok 168]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Unoriginal. Just like Rusty was.  

[jbycho 431]

3 minutes ago, Tebok said:

There's that RDS again!

Four years after his last post, and he still has you triggered.

Ok Rusty. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,702]

2 minutes ago, Tebok said:

Have you spoken to him? 

[Fireballer 2,634]

10 minutes ago, Tebok said:

The only thread I've ever started here in 20 years is the 2025 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame thread I posted the other day.

I don't consider that "making too many threads about how stupid we are!"

So, I have conclusively proven you to be a liar, unless you can find another thread I started.

Quit lying!

See this is how you prove someone is lying.

 

You’re obviously not a MAGA mook, so you are hitched to the lefty idiots.  Nothing personal.  

[KSB2424 3,141]

Speaking of mental illness.  Taking the time out of your human existence to make multiple alias on a fantasy football message bored is some sort of "Hysteria"  This is not normal behavior and my advice is to seek professional help.  

[Fireballer 2,634]

7 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Ok Rusty. 

Tebok is another Rusty alias?

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3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Have you spoken to him? 

I vaguely remember him posting back in the day while I mainly lurked. He had some funny stuff about people who called him at work, and he sent out CDs of supposedly really bad music, but after all the comments about him here, I clicked on his profile to find that he hasn't been around since early 2021, so I don't get all the attention, but he must have really stirred the pot and gotten under your skins prior to his disappearance.

I don't get it, but it's one of the more amusing forum storylines.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,702]

1 minute ago, KSB2424 said:

Speaking of mental illness.  Taking the time out of your human existence to make multiple alias on a fantasy football message bored is some sort of "Hysteria"  This is not normal behavior and my advice is to seek professional help.  

It’s these sanctuary clowns.  They don’t seem to understand that maybe the guy that started this website with these message boards didn’t appreciate those idiots trying to get people to go elsewhere? 

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2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

You’re obviously not a MAGA mook, so you are hitched to the lefty idiots.  Nothing personal.  

I voted for Trump two times and disliked the Biden administration so much that I cautiously voted for him again, but holy schmoly has he thrown the whole world for a loop.

I'm partial to true leadership and unity, not this dangerous noise.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,702]

1 minute ago, Tebok said:

I vaguely remember him posting back in the day while I mainly lurked. He had some funny stuff about people who called him at work, and he sent out CDs of supposedly really bad music, but after all the comments about him here, I clicked on his profile to find that he hasn't been around since early 2021, so I don't get all the attention, but he must have really stirred the pot and gotten under your skins prior to his disappearance.

I don't get it, but it's one of the more amusing forum storylines.

He was also pimpadeux and Francie football. Amongst others. 

[Tebok 168]

4 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Speaking of mental illness.  Taking the time out of your human existence to make multiple alias on a fantasy football message bored is some sort of "Hysteria"  This is not normal behavior and my advice is to seek professional help.  

Agreed.

[Tebok 168]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

He was also pimpadeux and Francie football. Amongst others. 

OK. 

[League Champion 1,895]

8 hours ago, Tebok said:

They're seriously sick and criminal.

Trans people are committing no crime by being trans.

This trans-pedophile comparison is stupid.

What one identifies with sexually isn't the same thing as being a kid toucher.

Are you an expert on Cross Dressers? 

[jbycho 431]

9 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Tebok is another Rusty alias?

Yes.