Big Guy Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 doesn't believe that he's a deep state tool? Do you really think he's on the up & up? He took a dive against Obama, that's when many of us realized this.
bandrus1 Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 what did the "deep state" gain by having their "tool" vote for removal today?
Big Guy Posted February 5, 2020 Author Posted February 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, bandrus1 said: what did the "deep state" gain by having their "tool" vote for removal today? I don't know right now
OldMaid Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Big Guy said: I don't know right now You know I you... but you’re absolutely barking mad. 2
Thornton Melon Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 Typical moderate, milquetoast, Massachusetts Republican
shorepatrol Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Mittens focking loathes Trump, always has. It was guaranteed he was gonna be a yes vote on this.
Intense Observer Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, bandrus1 said: what did the "deep state" gain by having their "tool" vote for removal today? So now retards like newbie can claim "bipartisan support" for impeachment. And MSM can trot him out for the next week and again in November to fire up the cucks like Joe Bryant not to vote for Trump. Everything is calculated. The entire impeachment was for show from day one, everyone knew there was zero chance of 67 no's yet they went forward, without a real focking crime to top it all off. If you can't grasp this I don't know whether to pity your stupidity or envy your ignorance 1 2
Big Guy Posted February 6, 2020 Author Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, OldMaid said: You know I you... but you’re absolutely barking mad. that's the sweetest thing that anyone here has ever said to me lol
Voltaire Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 The deep state would love him, I don't know that he's pawn so much as a creature of the swamp. There isn't any one person who would be able to use him as a tool. The deep state is lifelong politicians, the crooked subculture in the CIA/FBI/State Department and various other government organizations, as well as lobbyists that get fat and have jobs through both Democratic and Republican administrations that like things the way they use to be before Trump came along. With politicians you're looking at ten term incumbents, organization men like high ranking 20-30 year career CIA agents who don't like a new direction, donors/lobbyists like Soros, Koch Brothers, AIPAC and their aparachniks. Collectively "the swamp" or the deep state. 1 1
shorepatrol Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, Voltaire said: lifelong politicians THIS is the problem. Term limits have to happen. No more life long shitheels on both sides. WAY TOO MUCH money in staying elected.
JustinCharge Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Most political parties are split on the question of: Should the party leader be a champion / hardliner of the party that tries to ram thru the party agenda? Or should it be someone who compromises to get things done? That's why you have a Trump and a Romney in the same party. Right now, the hardliner faction is ascendant in the GOP. But the GOP must always be ready to offer a moderate in case the public goes in that direction.
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